Enjoy, I flashed it, it works, default 815MHz core (900MHz max), 925MHz RAM (1100MHz max).
http://www.mvktech.net/index.php?opt...filecatid=2733
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Enjoy, I flashed it, it works, default 815MHz core (900MHz max), 925MHz RAM (1100MHz max).
http://www.mvktech.net/index.php?opt...filecatid=2733
same voltages?
Same voltages.
Time to vmod my card, well this weekend maybe.
wont flash for me on an HIS card , subsytem ID mismatch error. Rick, did you flash using winflash or atiwinflash(aka from windows) ??
Flashed from DOS, ATIflash.
I always use,
atiflash -p -f 0 *.bin
*.bin being the bin/rom file name.
Should bit check them and see what changed, maybe we can unlock CCC's limit?
it workes for me now :woot::woot::woot::woot::woot::woot:
no more f-ing around with flashing a lot or amd gpu clock tool, and it has a good fan profile to boot (even tho i am on water its good news for others)
heres a nice little pic for yall:
amazing find... flashed to both cards...
ati auto tune has set 870mhz core on one card and 860 on another...
needless to say, i'm very happy... :up:
The part of the BIOS where the limit is stored has some sort of checksum. I'll take a look at it again if I can find the time.Quote:
Originally Posted by STEvil
The BIOS file is 128KB in size, so it should be fine. Unpack the RAR-archive to see for yourself.Quote:
Originally Posted by purecain
edit - fixed my quote lol ;)
stevil
With default core voltage what are you guys geting with this set of bio's? (if anyone has default lol)
sniipe dogg is that on default voltage?
I really hope it is or just voltage increased through that bios whether then hard mods.
i have 2 voltmodded cards ;) sorry to dissapoint you
Thanks for sharing. Will test on a visiontek 4870 soon...
Nice! Did you use the dos AtiFlash or WinFlash?Quote:
Originally Posted by SNiiPE_DoGG
this only works with ati flash... winflash will give you a subvender id mismatch error....
here's a before and after score with surface deformer benchmark...:clap::):up:
Sweet. Well i gues i'll have to learn how to use dos! What are the main commands that i'll need?
atiflash -f -p 0 4870.bin (press enter to flash)
restart and enjoy m8....
Thanks heaps! I presume that's after booting from a USB stick? Or can you just use command prompt? Sorry i'm not too good with these things.:shakes:
You need a true DOS environment. A Windows 98 bootup 'disc' (stick in this case) works well.Quote:
Originally Posted by twwen2
Ah right. Thanks for clarifying that.
Good work guys...tempted to get one soon...must wait for the 4870x2...
Wow - haven't flashed an ATI card since my connect3d x800gto to unlock the pixel pipelines =)
just what i've been waiting for. thanks, Rick :up:
nice find will do this tonight :D as can't find bluumin usb stick
Nice to see this! Any improvement on core OC against orig. BIOS? I am using ATiTool so max clock was 870..
Anyone flashed a sapphire with this bios ? I got one card and it has qimonda mems, maybe it should work then ?
Nice.
i'm so glad my motherboard has no PS2 connectors on it :confused:
does anyone know an easy way around this? i need DOS to run ATI Flash but DOS doesn't support USB devices and i can only use USB keyboards with this mobo. i installed the HP boot utility to turn my flash drive into a bootable drive and enable USB support, but it doesn't load DOS and i don't know where to go from there.
any help short of me taking my video cards to a friend's house and flashing from another computer would be super.
Does the "0" in that command line represent the slot the card is in?Quote:
Originally Posted by purecain
I also would like to know ... anyone ?Quote:
Originally Posted by GaS
I believe so. PCI-E lane 1 = 0, PCI-E lane 2 = 1, ...etcQuote:
Originally Posted by gundamit
Adapter number, not lane number.
ah my bad.been so long since i've had a xfire setup
is anyone able to flash using a USB keyboard? if so, how? i'm gonna have to pull my video cards out and take them to a friend's house if i can't figure out a way to do this. last time i flashed i had a motherboard with PS2 ports.
xMrBunglex - now then m8, guttered this hasnt been smooth sailing for ya...
so if i understand you correctly, not having usb support in dos is your issue... you need your bios to support your keyboard here otherwise your suggestion of flashing the cards in another machine seems the only viable one....
do you get the idmismatch error in winflash...???
there is a definate improvement in the cards performance with this bios, i had problems getting my cards stable at 850, 860 is now completely stable with no voltage mogidfications.......
and the fan profile is exellent.........
i got it. he was a bit of a :banana::banana::banana::banana: about it, but W1zzard walked me through it :p:. i'll spread the word so nobody else has to bother him.
USING ATI WINFLASH TO FLASH YOUR BIOS
you have to run it through the command prompt.
Step 1: create a new folder in the root directory of your C drive (so you can easily navigate to it in DOS).
Step 2: copy all the ATI WinFlash files and the new BIOS to this new folder.
Step 3: open command prompt and navigate to your new folder.
Step 4: use the normal ATIFlash command: "atiwinflash -f -p 0 4870.rom"
it should take a minute or two to flash. it will tell you to reboot. you'll have to reinstall your video driver. but everything worked for me after that.
WARNING: if you don't get a successful confirmation at the end of the flash, make sure you flash it again before you reboot. you will brick your card if you reboot before a successful flash.
this BIOS is fantastic. the fan profile keeps both my cards at 60° load and it's quiet quiet quiet. using Everest and my G15 keyboard, i watched it throttle my GPU fans from 1900 to 2700 RPM and everywhere in between while i played a round of CoD4. it throttles the fans to keep the GPU's at 60°. i could barely hear the fans with the game muted.
ahhhh excellent m8... glad to hear youve managed it.... thanks for posting the info aswell....
i thought it might be possible using command prompt...
flashed my club3d, works fine.
nice to adjsut in ccc.
autotune goes to 890/1080 but crashes in 3dmark.
my best overklock that runs stable are 850/1000 no crashes.
however, good to have options if I wanna voltmodd one day.
Flashed a sapphire 4870 np at lunch, going test more tonight. Nice fan settings finally
Purecain, So this bios not only allows further overclocking in CCC but it also helps overclock better than the stock bios?
good point, we should find out why this one goes onto 900 mhz while the others stop at 790 or 700 depending on your cardQuote:
Originally Posted by STEvil
here's an idea, look at the profile information, maybe there's something there that will give it away. I have a 4850, so I can't test this myself
How did it go mate ? I would like to know before I try my cards . Can someone also confirm this works with CF enabled ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ghigo
Is this safe to do in vista ? Or XP better ?
Bye bye to gpu-tool .
:up::up::up:
and is this the correct tool for the job:
http://www.techpowerup.com/downloads...lash_3.60.html
:up:
Just flash my Sapphire with the bios. I don't seem to have gain something. ATI tool can run 5min+ @830/1000 without artifact where before it could only run @825/1000 ... but it may just be the ambient temp being lower today :shrug:
But you couldnt do 825 in CCC before could you ?
:up:
I can't see CCC ... :/Quote:
Originally Posted by aussie-revhead
It already did that when I first tried to install Cat 8.7. This time, after the flash, I unsinstalled, boot in safe mod + driver sweeper, reboot and reinstall and I got the same problem again. The process is running but I can't see the window even if I go to the start program and run it. I had to do same as above + remove manually all "ati" keys in the registry to install it and see it previously.
On top of that once I got it installed, I had all kind of instability issues: artifacts @ stock with ATI tool, lock up in games, ... I then installed the drivers only and I haven't got any problem since.
So now I give up on CCC. I'll just uninstall it and test ATI tray tool ... :shrug:
I've also already flashed the card with 200/1000, 830/1000 2D/3D so I don't really need CCC anyways ;)
Flash went fine on both cards. Running auto-tune right now. No more wrestling round with AMD GPU Clock Tool. Thanks all. :up:
I was about to post this, got the BIOS from a friend yesterday. Working flawlessly :up:
Too bad it doesn't have a bit more voltage.
Everyone is mentioning a better fan profile, can anyone confirm what that profile is exactly? What % is the fan running at idle and what % does it run up to during load? As well, does the fan throttle up and down, up and down during load that is audibly noticeable while this is happening?
This bios sounds much better than the Diamond one which seems to be causing issues even at its stock runnings.
it seems to do whatever it can to keep your GPU's at 60°. i only played CoD4 for about ten minutes last night to test, but both cards ran quiet. much quieter than the 45% CCC profile i had set earlier. the fans do go up and down a lot, but it's quiet and you shouldn't notice it unless your game is muted.Quote:
Originally Posted by cantankerous
I can confirm that this installs and runs fine on the VisionTek 4870. I'll report back once I'm done testing for my max overclock (stock volts on water)
EDIT: Appears to max out about 850/1100. I'm using an MCW60 and Enzotech copper sinks on the RAM + mosfets + anything else that got hot (that long thing gets DAMN HOT!)
I'm using a Fuzion GPU block, 30ºC idle 33ºC full load. With the original BIOS it maxed out at 870-880, with this one I'm rock stable in games at 890 stock volts. Artifact free in ATITool is about 860-865. Temps are very important with this card, with the stock cooler the max was 820 or so. I'm also using the red plate where the stock cooler is attached to cool the RAM and the mosfets, no need for more. In fact I think this red thing is more efficient dissipating heat from the mosfets than the Enzotechs, but who knows.Quote:
Originally Posted by CanadaRox
BTW Overdrive is so much better than AMD GPU Tool/BIOS flashing for changing the clocks :yepp:
didnt work well when I tried games, got white snow and artifacts, flashed back to previous modded bios, and the white snow was gone.
This bios works like a charm. It also lets me overclock ~15 more mhz without artifacting.
I idle at around 30-32°C and load at 35-37°C. I seem to get minor artifacts on the desktop (when I move a window it leaves a few black and white dots in random spaces where I moved the window over). I get no artifacts in 3DMark06 or Furmark and I'll be testing out Crysis in a few minutes. Hopefully a driver update will fix the overclock limit and its not just a bad card for overclocking.Quote:
Originally Posted by STaRGaZeR
Yes I flash my sapphire,no problem work good but clock still is the same.Quote:
Originally Posted by Turbodream
830/4400 no volt mod.
If you mean the CCC MHz limit, the cap is in the BIOS. New drivers won't help here. RBE is able to read the limits, but not to modify the values. I hope in future versions we'll get that feature.Quote:
Originally Posted by CanadaRox
What I meant was why my GPU was clocking so much lower than what you achieved. I was hoping that using a different driver (I was using tweakforce's modded 8.6 drivers) would yield better overclocking results.Quote:
Originally Posted by STaRGaZeR
Sweet that'l make things easier. I've got a GeCube 4870 so i'll let you guys know how it goes!
I highly doubt that, but heh, try it and good luck. Use the officials Cat8.7, awesome drivers, huge perfomance improvements in some games.Quote:
Originally Posted by CanadaRox
did anyone try this on gigabyte 4870 model?
if not, will let you know if it works later on in the afternoon
FYI - The cards I flashed were from Palit - the frog guys.
How is the fan profile at idle? The default goes up and down a bit which is annoying. I would prefer it to be a bit louder and not go up/down all the time at idle. At load it does not really matter as then there is usually a game running with louder sounds anyway.
I don't see why it wouldnt work.Quote:
Originally Posted by d4d4cH
I have a gigabyte too. Will be trying this one tomorrow.
i would say that your oc is going to vary greatly... as some of us will have better core's than others...Quote:
Originally Posted by babalouj
i suppose its the same as with any cpu... you never know how lucky you are going to be with it....
i think everyone will gain 20mhz though minimum....
:up:
I would say thats a pretty good guess. I have gained ~15mhz on the core. I am going to try the XOC BE bios when I get home to see if it helps too.Quote:
Originally Posted by purecain
Flashed my Club3D. Works fine.
but what are the temperature, on IDLE under desktop for example, and in 3D stress, is it like the old bios ?
( 80°c IDLE and 90°c LOAD :/ )
Edit: with stock cooling I mean
Great, thanks. Furmark stable as it comes :D
Flashed my Club3D 4870, without probs from USB disk. If you dont know how to do it just download this, easy as hell:
http://files.extremeoverclocking.com/file.php?f=197
Could someone write the whole procedure (which files and where to save them)? Last time I flash was X800 GTO2 and it was kind of different:confused:
my fans idle at 30%. they stay at that speed until the GPU's go over 60°, then they start to speed up. i haven't checked the percentage yet, but they will go up to 3200 RPM under load, depending on how hot they get (it's quieter than 45%). i played CoD4 in a cool room and my GPU's stayed at 60° the whole time. i played GRID in a hot room and they got up to 72°. that's all i know so far. the fan profile is great though.Quote:
Originally Posted by noobzed
Just flashed my His HD4870. Works perfectly and runs cool. Thank you so much!!!!
I've installed it on my GeCube 4870 and it runs no problemQuote:
Originally Posted by twwen2
Have a bit of instability now after upgd to 8.7 cat
or was it the flash?
or both??
anyways my core is mediocre doin 800-815 before artichocking, stock no hard mods
even with ddr5 at 900, 815 core stable is max for me :(
waiting for accelero twin turbo to be released anyday now.
but im sure theres no probs with temp just needs more juice in the core,
so would like to hard mod too, anyone in sydney do this for a fee?
Runs ok on my Asus 4870 "vanilla" edition. But nothing gained, 880 core maxed out I guess with stock voltage.
So. Now that I had it installed, I tried to revert back to my backed up club3d BIOS. And it didn't work (blank screen). Nothing seemed to help, so I installed a spare 8600GT on the first PCI-e slot and the 4870 on the second in order to gain picture, and I succeeded in booting to dos with it. Then with atiflash I checked the current bios version of my 4870 and it sure was the Club3D one. So I figured maybe I'll try to reinstall it to see if it helps and I noticed that the Asus 4870 TOP BIOS was twice as large as my Club3D original backup. So my guess was that the original backup didn't quite succeed. I reflashed the Asus 4870 TOP BIOS on the card and it came back alive.
But I would like to have the original BIOS just in case I need it. And since it seems my backup isn't worth :banana::banana::banana::banana:, is there any other place I can get that BIOS from?
Edit: http://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/1...12.080609.html
yeah you needed to use GPU-z .26 not .25 .25 doesn't extract the right size bios
heres my top bios results, although it has less to do with the TOP bios and more to do with my voltmod ;)
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dmv=269214
Gas wow nice you sure that 880 core is stable though on stock volts?
I know sniipedogg had to volt mod for that level or around it.
Flashed my Asus HD4870 today. Auto tune gave me 890 core, but I backed that off as I dont want to fry this card.
Here is a Vanatage run.
http://3dxtreme.net/other/Q6600%20L7...edAsus4870.jpg
..and 3dmark06
http://3dxtreme.net/other/Q6600%20L7...870flashed.jpg
GAH i installed asus smart doctor and it overwrite the fan controll from bios and it sux.. even after uninstall smartdoctor i still got smart doctors fan settings.. anyone know how to remove it comletely? i search in regedit for asus but cant find anything.
I had some info that this BIOS acts different on some cards. Difference is in unlocked Overdrive I guess, or we've just got different info from different people.
Some say Overdrive is unlocked to 1100 for memory, and some say 1200 is their limit (after flashing with this BIOS ofcourse). So could you guys check and post which manufacturer/model gets which limits for GPU/mem? Cos' maybe everyone gets 1200, and than we just have wrong info in the first post.. and maybe everyone but few selected get 1200.
Tnx!
Ya, run AMD Gpu clock tool, move the Engine speed 5Mhz and Set Clocks, now Restore Default Clocks.Quote:
Originally Posted by highspeed
This should reset your card to all defualt BIOS settings.
It worked, thx alot !!Quote:
Originally Posted by Rick Flair
@LuxZG , i know for Club3D and Asus it is max 1100 in CCC on memory
can i flash it on commant prompt in windows?
Or how i can go to DOS?
I have P5K and F8 brings up first boot device, not the boot options menu.
i already answered that. post 35 on page 2.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kristoferr
Quote:
Originally Posted by xMrBunglex
Yes, i tried that but im only getting command prompt doing nothing then i type that command in it.
Can only close it after flash command. :(
Yes it quite stable, only playing Crysis for an hour, and GoW a little bit more. Vmod is on its way.Quote:
Originally Posted by Caveman787
sweet Gas sound's to me like asus card's are the ones to get from your results...wouldn't be suprised if you get 950.
GaS does your asus have the same vgpu as the regular cards ?
:up:
It is stock "vanilla" 4870 from Asus, without even game bundle:) So I guess with stock voltage.
Anyone tried it with a Powercolor card?
Yes i have just flashed a powercolor card and i works sweet 900/1100mhz in CCC and asus smart doctor works great
Tnx for checking.. It looks like the other guy was looking in RBE, which is probably reading it wrong as my stock BIOS shows the same in RBE (both him and me have Club3D cards as well..)Quote:
Originally Posted by highspeed
Thanks :up:
Awesome. 900/1100 is a great OC!Quote:
Originally Posted by Riska
I don't think that was his overclock I think he's commenting about the max values available to oc up to.
so most of the peeps here used the atiwinflash or the bootdisc way?
on stock voltage?Quote:
Originally Posted by Riska
as convenient as it seems to flash from windows, it actually isnt. In windows flash work for me 95% of the time but when if doesn't it is a pain. DOS boot disk is the way to go its faster and always effective :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by ultimate11
i just :banana::banana::banana::banana:ed up my flash and its 8 am in the morn :) (got owned around 5am)Quote:
Originally Posted by SNiiPE_DoGG
so i inserted a 8500gt in slot 1 of pci-e
and put the 4870 in slot 2 and system finally booted.
i used the flashway in page2 (winatiflash) , and after the whole bar finished twice , my system freeze on the 3rd time and after i pressed the reset button it was owned :(
now i m tryin to recover it :/
i tried to run winatiflash but it wont run and stays 25% on core 1 , (any other app i run during this wont respond either, would like to hear comments)
Code:Z:\atiflash360>atiflash.exe -i
Exiting due to signal SIGSEGV
General Protection Fault at eip=00035e57
eax=fd750000 ebx=00000000 ecx=fd750000 edx=02990000 esi=00035ad0 edi=00066a0c
ebp=000e48a8 esp=000e4840 program=Z:\ATIFLA~1\ATIFLASH.EXE
cs: sel=01af base=02990000 limit=0042ffff
ds: sel=01b7 base=02990000 limit=0042ffff
es: sel=01b7 base=02990000 limit=0042ffff
fs: sel=017f base=0000dea0 limit=0000ffff
gs: sel=01bf base=00000000 limit=0010ffff
ss: sel=01b7 base=02990000 limit=0042ffff
App stack: [000e6a08..00066a0c] Exceptn stack: [00066920..000649e0]
Call frame traceback EIPs:
0x00035e57
0x0003651b
0x00035af5
0x00023dc8
0x00002592
0x00009314
0x000167a3
0x000169c7
0x0003f74f
i wonder which index is my ati card need some help on it :)Quote:
Then go into DOS and find out which adapter number your dead HD 4870 has using Atiflash (download): atiflash -i. Now flash the BIOS using: atiflash -f -newbios -p [index] 4870.bin. Replace [index] with the number of your graphics card from the -i command.
Everything with atiflash happens in true DOS only, you cannot run/flash using this utility inside Windows.