NVIDIA GT200 now known as GeForce GTX 280/260?

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From GT200 will GeForce GTX 280/260
15th May 2008 The Namenswirrwar of recent months even as Nvidia seems to have disrupted, so that for the GT200 seems to be a completely new naming scheme in the day sets. The serious Taiwanese side will HKEPC from several sources, that the new cards as a family "GeForce GTX 200" to be published.

The term "Nvidia GeForce GTX 280" remains the fastest option reserved for the former variant of a planned 9900 GT (S) becomes the 260th GeForce GTX. To distinguish the models now in its numbering, although the same family. This will be less confusing for customers, after last through the various shortcuts and countless renaming a transit vision in the current Nvidia graphics cards almost exclusively for experts was possible. What exactly is tuned, however, and whether the rumour confirmed to be in the 25th Week to be clarified when it comes to showdown of the new graphics card from Nvidia against the Radeon 4000 series from AMD. According to HKEPC is Nvidia on 18. June introduce its new models, while AMD's launch plan probably to 18. June have preferred.

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german source: http://www.computerbase.de/news/hard...e_gtx_280_260/
translated: http://translate.google.de/translate...hl=de&ie=UTF-8

seems like the original news on hkpc was pulled out as i can't find it anywhere on their site.

so the GT becomes GeForce GTX 260 and the highend part GTX 280.

there has been 260gtx's? wow

I don't care what it called I just want it to out perform my GTX by ALOT!

The last sentence was a little hard to read but if what I got from it is true that the cards will be out by June 18 I will be able to step up in time! Yay!

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Originally Posted by Lightning_Rider

The last sentence was a little hard to read but if what I got from it is true that the cards will be out by June 18 I will be able to step up in time! Yay!

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Awesome. The names remind me of the Nissan/Datsun 260/280Z, great cars of their time. :p:

I cant wait to see performance of these cards. :up:

yep , already posted here >>http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...185628&page=12


btw:

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Geforce GTX 280 to launch on June 18th


So will Geforce GTX 260

We've found out what looks to be the launch date for GT200 cards. We are happy to report that both GT200 cards are single chip cards, something that we've suggested back in January.

The launch should take place on the 18th of June, just in the middle of week 25, and at current schedule that is two days after ATI's RV770 launch.

The name Geforce GTX 280 looks a bit odd, but I am sure that we will get used to it. The only other alternative was to use Geforce 9900 cliché but we believe that GT200 deserves better name. As its been suggested at many occasions GT200 chip will have significantly more Shader units and the most frequent number that we heard was 240. We still work on getting the confirmation of this bold spec.

Nvidia just ran out of numbers and it’s starting all over again. It's like reseting the odometer, more or less.

fudzila

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regards

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Originally Posted by mascaras

yep , already posted here >>http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...185628&page=12

regards

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ah, searched for it but couldn't find anything. thx :up:

good, geforce 10,000 GTX just doesn't sound right, there are too many zeroes :p:

Great so now theres going to be difference levels of GTX. Another way to try and confuse the stupid consumers even more.

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Originally Posted by Scubar

Great so now theres going to be difference levels of GTX. Another way to try and confuse the stupid consumers even more.

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I don't see that being too confusing, and actually this naming scheme will make things a lot less confusing...

If they give each level of card it's own naming, i.e. GTX for the high end, GT for the mid end, and GS for the low-end then the customer can merely compare the number on it with it's corresponding letter and know what they're getting. In otherwords, no more idiot buying the 9400GS to replace their 8800GTX because it's a higher numbered GeForce.

I see this as a good thing, as long as they make sure to point out to all customers what each name means. :D

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Originally Posted by Scubar

Great so now theres going to be difference levels of GTX. Another way to try and confuse the stupid consumers even more.

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So there will not be an Ultra?

Ultra always comes later down the road after they have couped all the money on the 'slower cards'. They will probably stock pile all the well binned chips in the meantime to make into the Ultra when that time comes around.

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Originally Posted by DilTech

If they give each level of card it's own naming, i.e. GTX for the high end, GT for the mid end, and GS for the low-end then the customer can merely compare the number on it with it's corresponding letter and know what they're getting. In otherwords, no more idiot buying the 9400GS to replace their 8800GTX because it's a higher numbered GeForce.

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That logic still wouldnt work though

Say nvidia have their GTX 260, GTX 280 and GT 260 and GT 280, GS 260 and GS 280 the next gen comes someone could still buy a GT 360 or GS 360 which would be slower than a GTX 280 but has a higher number, therefore making it just as confusing for the unknowing consumer.

They could do the next gen as a GTX 261 and GTX 281 but that would make marketing very difficult indeed having such a stupid name.

People are going to notice the higher number more than the letters.

here is a naming scheme.....

Slower, slow, ehh, fast, faster, We want you to think its faster.

Works for me :P.

when are these cards out?

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Geforce GTX 280 to launch on June 18th

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supposedly.
1 month from now :confused:

brace your wallet:hehe:

280 vs 260 perf much diffrent? let's see some numbers.

...and i thought 770pro was launching before 770xt? but that could be wrong.

8800gtx and 8800gts 640MB were both launched simultaneously in late '06.

It should be GT-1, later on GT-2, then 3 4 5 6... so much easier to organize them :P Add in the GT/GTX for performance differences.

Monkey-Chicken?

or "Sir-Not-Appearing-In-This-Film"

where's the picture of the card with Monkey-Chicken label?

http://www.direct.ca/airflowultralight/QGT280_sm.jpg
GT280 pic :) it is an ultralight aeroplane.

http://images.google.com.au/imgres?i...%3D1%26hl%3Den
heres's the gt280 - it is only 27 bucks! ON SALE :rolleyes:

I really dont think theres been 260 GTXs :p:

the naming only started with the 7-series didnt it? :)

7800GTX 256+ 512MB
7900GTX
8800GTX
9800GTX

thats....5

i cant find any pics of a monkey-chicken; it is a yet to be hybrid.
i can buy a chicken (dead OR alive); the monkey is a bit more difficult.


a chicken is a nice investment; it's cheap to feed (scraps) and lays nice edible eggs.

Scubar,
I don't see how this could be more confusing than the naming method nV uses currently.
And btw, I bet there's just as many people who think HD3450 is faster than HD2900XT...

they should use the ABC naming scheme.
i.e.
1a - lowend
1b - midrange
1c - omgubarprice

then when a new gen is out just goto

2a
2b
2c

repeat over and over

Maybe manufactures should put on the box what the scale is for the cards. If the box says GS=low, GT mid and GTX high then the consumer will have an idea what they are getting. Maybe they can also drop all the XXX FTW WTF BBQ things that are added after the suffix

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Originally Posted by Jimmer411

Maybe they can also drop all the XXX FTW WTF BBQ things that are added after the suffix

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here's looking at you XFX

I vote for no numbers just names. and if any contain the word leet or uber or ultra, the ceo's should be fired

I really just wish they would create a simple naming system and stick to it, their current one is getting out of hand with all this renaming going on.

I don't care what they name them as long as they really do come out next month and 2 of them rock my 30" like I've never sen before :D

yeah imma get one for sure..........hope its really launching in june.

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Originally Posted by GAR

yeah imma get one for sure..........hope its really launching in june.

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If this is launching in June then what happened to the 9900?

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Originally Posted by DFI pit bull

If this is launching in June then what happened to the 9900?

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I dont think there is a 9900 anymore, nvidia had stated before they are going to simplify the naming scheme of their cards, hence why its the gtx 280/260, high the better.

haha BBQ

I don't see why people think that this is so confusing to the normal consumer, if you look at the back of the box in most cases, it has the series of cards listed and how "better" they are in order, and if you really think about it. Comparing old series to new series cards. There really isn't any other way to do it. What Nvidia has picked is the less confusing possible for the market I think. Maybe we should have a brainstorm Geforce naming scheme thread.

The only thing i can think of. is GS V1, V2, V3. GT V1, V2, V3....and so on. But that sounds dumb and is still pretty much the same thing as what Nvidia is doing with this new number letter scheme. If you really think about it, you have got to be an idiot to not figure out the new scheme. I mean S comes before T so obviously the GS is slower than the GT and GTX is obviously faster than GT and GTS is obviously between GT and GTX because of the Combining of the S and T. then you have numbers such as 240-260-280 to tell which is faster in that letter series. How much more plainly could you put it. I know its hard for the normal consumer to understand which is the faster card from the past series. But there really is no other way of doing it, besides them looking it up. unless they do a comparison on the back of the box to the older series of cards.

boy I wish we had some actual specs or performance numbers so we could stop talking about something as meaningless as naming schemes :p

Yeah... GT200 is exciting but we don't even know if it's going to be worth it.

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Originally Posted by Decami

I don't see why people think that this is so confusing to the normal consumer, if you look at the back of the box in most cases, it has the series of cards listed and how "better" they are in order, and if you really think about it. Comparing old series to new series cards. There really isn't any other way to do it. What Nvidia has picked is the less confusing possible for the market I think. Maybe we should have a brainstorm Geforce naming scheme thread.

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how many people have the opportunity to look at the retail box before they buy the product?
personally, i didn't have any retail boxes in my hands before buying for over 5 years...

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I mean S comes before T so obviously the GS is slower than the GT and GTX is obviously faster than GT and GTS is obviously between GT and GTX because of the Combining of the S and T.

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obvious? sry, but it's not obvious at all... S comes before T? so why didn't they choose a GeForce A1, A2 etc.. and GeForce B1, B2 etc... - THAT would be obvious, but not GT, GS, GTX and GTS.
if you'd have absolutely no clue about nvidia's naming scheme it's everything but obvious what GT, GS, GTS and GTX mean...

http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/9...nnfx571ve4.png

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Originally Posted by OBR

http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/9...nnfx571ve4.png

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Exactly how accurate are those stats? They sound a little too good to be true.

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Originally Posted by tranceaddict

Exactly how accurate are those stats? They sound a little too good to be true.

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No way to be certain, imo with all the speculation surrounding the new cards it's better to just wait and see what the specs when the cards are released rather than get hyped up by speculation.

I'm hoping that the 280 will run cooler than most high end cards do, though if it has those specs I doubt it will. The 9800GTX is just too hot! 60C at idle for me.

But if the card is coming out June 18, then we should be finding out some solid information soon enough.

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Originally Posted by OBR

http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/9...nnfx571ve4.png

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why 448-bit and 896mb? sounds a bit too uneven to me. :p:

Still no DX 10.1 support? so just a respin of old tech? Not flaming , just asking. Are they not going to support dx10.1 for this generation?

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Originally Posted by RaZz!

why 448-bit and 896mb? sounds a bit too uneven to me. :p:

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how is the 384-bit and 768Mb on the 8800GTX ?

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Originally Posted by ANP !!!

how is the 384-bit and 768Mb on the 8800GTX ?

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768mb = 64 * 12 (3x 4 chips). 896mb = 64 * 14?? 128 * 7?? i don't know, sounds odd to me :)

but you're right about the 384-bit, so nvm :D

DX10.1 is for nothing ... forget about this wrongly AMD implemented crap ... in their famous HD3800 ... :rolleyes:

This GeForce GTX 280 Spec is very very close to reality, but one thing is missing ... i cannot to tell what, because NDA ... TOO launch is many earlier then we expected ...

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Originally Posted by Origin_Unknown

they should use the ABC naming scheme.
i.e.
1a - lowend
1b - midrange
1c - omgubarprice

then when a new gen is out just goto

2a
2b
2c

repeat over and over

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I think that's a boring naming scheme, "look at XFX's uberclocked 1b ULTRA!!1".

OBR sounds like a biased nV fanboy, don't listen to his pro-nV crap.

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Originally Posted by Lightning_Rider

I'm hoping that the 280 will run cooler than most high end cards do, though if it has those specs I doubt it will. The 9800GTX is just too hot! 60C at idle for me.

But if the card is coming out June 18, then we should be finding out some solid information soon enough.

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:shocked:

Mine doesn't even get that high under load when overclocked to the max it can go on stock air and the fan is it 40%. But I'd expect the GT200 to be around the same temps as the 8800GTX or maybe a bit higher.

Really? What kind of temps do you get and what program do you use to view your temps?

I just checked again with eVGAs precision tool and it reads 62C. Fan is at 39%.

BTW... I have a question about eVGA's step up. Say we step up to the 280, do they send us a brand new card still in the box or is it a refurbished one or used etc.

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Originally Posted by Lightning_Rider

Really? What kind of temps do you get and what program do you use to view your temps?

I just checked again with eVGAs precision tool and it reads 62C. Fan is at 39%.

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Rivatuner and the EVGA precision tool both give me around 43C idle and 58C load at 825/2000/2400 (core/shader/memory) and the fan is set to 35% not 40% like I thought.

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Originally Posted by OBR

DX10.1 is for nothing ... forget about this wrongly AMD implemented crap ... in their famous HD3800 ... :rolleyes:

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Lol DX_10.1 is made by Microsoft. To AMD adress DX_10.1 they had to change 0.0 (zero point zero) their arquitecture.
Your comment yes, is crap.

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Originally Posted by Nuker_

OBR sounds like a biased nV fanboy, don't listen to his pro-nV crap.

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yes - i was thinking that with the comment he made above

GT280 memory is based on GDDR3? i thot nV might move to GDDR4 already humm:shrug:

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Originally Posted by C.Ron7aldo

GT280 memory is based on GDDR3? i thot nV might move to GDDR4 already humm:shrug:

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Why?
Added cost and latency for a slight increase in performance and power savings?
.512bit x 2200 / 8 = 141Gbps
More than enough bandwidth, hopefully.

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Originally Posted by LordEC911

Why?
Added cost and latency for a slight increase in performance and power savings?
.512bit x 2200 / 8 = 141Gbps
More than enough bandwidth, hopefully.

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I didn't know you can calculate bandwidth like that (Thanks for the info) but yeah that’s a lot of bandwidth about 80% more then my 8800GTX

probably will implement dx10.1 in their next gen micro-architecture. We know nvidia is cheap and doesn't want to add it now

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Originally Posted by RaZz!

how many people have the opportunity to look at the retail box before they buy the product?
personally, i didn't have any retail boxes in my hands before buying for over 5 years...



obvious? sry, but it's not obvious at all... S comes before T? so why didn't they choose a GeForce A1, A2 etc.. and GeForce B1, B2 etc... - THAT would be obvious, but not GT, GS, GTX and GTS.
if you'd have absolutely no clue about nvidia's naming scheme it's everything but obvious what GT, GS, GTS and GTX mean...

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dude, you know who has a similar naming scheme to Nvidias new one? BMW, and so far its worked for them.

and by the way, your order is wrong, GS, GT, GTS, GTX, I think you are confusing yourself. and GTS is a combination of GS and GT, which would be better, no? A1 A2 is pretty much the same exact thing, but it sounds stupid.

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Originally Posted by Decami

dude, you know who has a similar naming scheme to Nvidias new one? BMW, and so far its worked for them.

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i was refering to their old naming scheme, not the new one.

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and by the way, your order is wrong, GS, GT, GTS, GTX, I think you are confusing yourself. and GTS is a combination of GS and GT, which would be better, no? A1 A2 is pretty much the same exact thing, but it sounds stupid.

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the order of my listing wasn't meant to be ordered by performance/target market - i've just wrote the names down.