ASUS P5E64 WS Evolution.....lets take a look.

Hi Guys :)


Recently i had a chance to test one of ASUS´s new x48 DDR3 motherboards. The P5E64 WS Evolution.

Now comming from the P5E WS PRO DDR2 x38, wich is a board i love do to its stability and overclocking ability, it was hard for me to belive that there was something better on the market for me....well i was wrong:)

The P5E64 WS Evolution is realy a dreamboard if you ask me. Its stable as a rock, have great OC potential......and it looks good:D

Enought talk......lets see some pics of this bad boy :D



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BIOS Shots:


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Setup:

CPU: E8500 Q746A583 Stock cooler
MB : ASUS P5E64 WS Evolution (unmodded)
RAM: Cellshock 1866 Blue kit 8-8-8-18
GFX: XFX 9800GX2 stock
PSU: NorthQ Giant Reactor 1KW

Vnb 1.69v
Vsb 1.20v
VTT 1.68v



Max FSB (BIOS boot 585)


http://img393.imageshack.us/img393/7310/595mu1.jpg



3d Bench Stability:


http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/1...1evo580cx3.jpg


http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/8519/3devo570zd0.jpg








I then changed to quad QX9650 for FSb test. QUAD 3d stabitly test comming up:)




Max 1m FSB

http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/6...0evolk4su1.jpg



All together it have been wonderfull to play with another workstation board. I already got a thing for this Evolution i must admit:D Its just so easy to work with, and very stable:)

Later we will see how it does on some more extreme cooling.....

But for now...if you are looking for a stable and OC friendly board...the P5E64 WS Evolution is the way to go:)

Looks well.

Nice review:up:

Looks very good... Is the 595mhz the absolut max FSB of the board? Do you recon a 20mhz gain on cooling with other methods..?

And the board.... Sexy

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Looks very good... Is the 595mhz the absolut max FSB of the board? Do you recon a 20mhz gain on cooling with other methods..?

And the board.... Sexy

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Sure...the board was unmodded in all tests. with mods and better cooling, it will fly for sure:)

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Sure...the board was unmodded in all tests. with mods and better cooling, it will fly for sure:)

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And will you do any mods in future instead of better cooling?

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And will you do any mods in future instead of better cooling?

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No..not on this board, as it is send by ASUS. But i will deff mod my own :D

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No..not on this board, as it is send by ASUS.

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It's pity :( ASUS wants it back?:D

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But i will deff mod my own :D

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And its good:p:
Wich type of cooling you will use? Phase or water?

595MHz on air on a DDR3 board, that is simply awesome. :clap: Great job SIOUX!

AMAZING work again m8 ;)

good tests :clap:

i´m hoping to have one of this blue baby next week :)

cold boot -135 and cold bug -145 at my chip;)

nice mobo so far:)

Thank for good reveiw:D
But I can't see a picture because my goverment block them.:(May I ask you something? What is the max Vcore and Vdimm can set in this MB? How much Vdroop?

Thank again :D

I cant get over how GREAT this board looks. It is pure sex. This is up there on my list of favorite boards ever, with my Dfi's. Those look good in a different, flashy way.

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Thank for good reveiw:D
But I can't see a picture because my goverment block them.:(May I ask you something? What is the max Vcore and Vdimm can set in this MB? How much Vdroop?

Thank again :D

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Sure...max vcore is 1.9v and vdimm 2.80v. vdroop is around 0.03 :)



Thx all :)

yes...the board is a good lookin´ sob for sure:D And 595 on dual core, and 490 FSB on qx9650 is not something to kit about too :)

All together i think this is by fra the best all around Mb i have worked with :)

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Sure...max vcore is 1.9v and vdimm 2.80v. vdroop is around 0.3 :)



Thx all :)

yes...the board is a good lookin´ sob for sure:D And 595 on dual core, and 490 FSB on qx9650 is not something to kit about too :)

All together i think this is by fra the best all around Mb i have worked with :)

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Really nice board and good work ;)

you mean 0.3vdrop or 0.03? because 0.3 is too much :eek:

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Really nice board and good work ;)

you mean 0.3vdrop or 0.03? because 0.3 is too much :eek:

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lol..yes...0.03 ofcourse :D....thx :)

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Sure...max vcore is 1.9v and vdimm 2.80v. vdroop is around 0.03 :)



Thx all :)

yes...the board is a good lookin´ sob for sure:D And 595 on dual core, and 490 FSB on qx9650 is not something to kit about too :)

All together i think this is by fra the best all around Mb i have worked with :)

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Thank for your information:)
I already order one of this beauty. About 1 wks the retail one will join my lab.;)
1.9 V that make me to do Vmod :( . Please share how to if you finish the Vmod of yours.

Thank:D

good review so far SIOUX ... hehe your making me wanna buy this board :D

http://img240.imageshack.us/img240/8...sp0700akd0.jpg

Nice review:cool:

Nice review and it a nice of motherboard :up:

Really nice mobo, so far Asu X48 are really nice. This one has SAS controller? i would love to see that tested.

Good to see u got it up Kenneth...

The board is 4 sure really sweet...

Keep pushing it.

Thx guys :toast:

i will see if i can find the place for some vmods on my own board today:)

And also test quad stability.....

Nice review Sioux....mobo very strong......

you can do jumper modding near fan 4 pin. Vcore will be up to 2.3V at bios option.

MickeyMouse did the mod:

http://img385.imageshack.us/img385/8972/ovpevovs5.jpg

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MickeyMouse did the mod:

http://img385.imageshack.us/img385/8972/ovpevovs5.jpg

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:eek:


He asked me modding yesterday.:D

Yeah, sorry I forgot to mention you. He told me on MSN you told him :D

How did you figure that out, by the way?

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Yeah, sorry I forgot to mention you. He told me on MSN you told him :D

How did you figure that out, by the way?

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The jumper says CPU OV :)

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The jumper says CPU OV :)

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Hmm... some inches away... OV_NB :D

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The jumper says CPU OV :)

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:D dont sweat it...i had the board for 3 weeks, and i first noticed it today as well:D

Ouch, it looks sexier than my DX48BT2. :slobber: When can I purchase one?

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:D dont sweat it...i had the board for 3 weeks, and i first noticed it today as well:D

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Motherboards got "complicated" or should I say "puzzling" lately.
Starting with Intel D5400XS, and now some Asus boards :D

DDR3 Mobos......P5E64 WS EVO > P5E3 Wifi AP > Blitz Extreme > Maximus Extreme > X48T-DQ6 > Bonetrail > Blackops > X48-T3R > Any 790i/780 :)

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DDR3 Mobos......P5E64 WS EVO > P5E3 Wifi AP > Blitz Extreme > Maximus Extreme > X48T-DQ6 > Bonetrail > Blackops > X48-T3R > Any 790i/780 :)

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I believe the blackops is in the same league as this board;)

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I believe the blackops is in the same league as this board;)

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form what I've seen it depends on what cpu..

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I believe the blackops is in the same league as this board;)

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There is no independent Blackops review, only some members of XT community have been granted access to this board. Well it's certainly good looking and the quality of components seems good, it's really well thought out but unfortunately in terns of non-LN2 performance I see absolutely nothing to shout about. Can't see how anyone can pick this board as a foundation on which to build a rig that will last you 3+ years... many guys here can either afford to change mobos like underwear or don't pay a cent to play around with hardware. ANd some guy even said the BIOS "may be a little different from what you might be used to" which is a clearly a red flag to me :)

:D Nice review SIOUX - now I won't buy a BLACKOPS but this will be my next board......, better for E8500.......;)

What about NB temps? Is it O.K. with the stock heatsink ensemble?

I miss the NB & SB temps in BIOS............:(

:welcome:

:D UPDATE: Just purchased one......... - will get it next week.....:woot:

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DDR3 Mobos......P5E64 WS EVO > P5E3 Wifi AP > Blitz Extreme > Maximus Extreme > X48T-DQ6 > Bonetrail > Blackops > X48-T3R > Any 790i/780 :)

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you rate the blitz better than the maximus?
and the bonetrail better than theblackops?
the bonetrail board???? its terrible! :D
and while i really dont like 790, i dont think they are the worst boards for ddr3

SIOUX, do you have a SAS hdd? :D
whats the max fsb you managed to get stable with your 8500?

i'm vaguely interested in this mobo - where can u buy them from?

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i'm vaguely interested in this mobo - where can u buy them from?

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:rolleyes: In Europe...........;)

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you rate the blitz better than the maximus?
and the bonetrail better than theblackops?
the bonetrail board???? its terrible! :D
and while i really dont like 790, i dont think they are the worst boards for ddr3

SIOUX, do you have a SAS hdd? :D
whats the max fsb you managed to get stable with your 8500?

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No sorry.....dont have a SAS disc:)


I am 24/7 stable at 560 1.6v. could proberly run 570 1.7v, but i wont do that for 24/7 with normal nb cooling :)

Thats what i love with this board. when its stable, its just stable. no fine tuning for 24/7 use. for an example.......if 572 is very unstable, then 570 can very easy be 100& stable. it have a sweetspot, and when you find it..its steady as a rock :)

yeah, thats why i prefer intel chipsets over nvidia chipset as well :)

570 is really nice... i havent seen a 790 retail board reach a higher 24/7 fsb oc so far

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you rate the blitz better than the maximus?
and the bonetrail better than theblackops?
the bonetrail board???? its terrible! :D
and while i really dont like 790, i dont think they are the worst boards for ddr3

SIOUX, do you have a SAS hdd? :D
whats the max fsb you managed to get stable with your 8500?

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1.You should see what eva2000 can do with his p35 based Asus boards.
2. About bonetrail, it's pretty much vanilla - but it works and it's probably okay for normal use. Some other boards exist only in cyberspace and haven't been subjected to scrutiny.

whats taking so long @ available?

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whats taking so long @ available?

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:confused:Hm, dunno - seems to depend on Ya location, mine is on the way.........;)

nice

i guess some more weeks for me :(

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nice

i guess some more weeks for me :(

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Where are you from??:)

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Where are you from??:)

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From the US...so am I. Do you know when it will be available in the US?

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From the US...so am I. Do you know when it will be available in the US?

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i mailed to motherboard pros about the possibility to get the board from them.. they said that they may have it in stock in early June :up:

Here some more Pics from my friend kabauterman!

http://www.awardfabrik.de/forum/show...452#post160452

also waiting for one almost 3 weeks from now :rolleyes:
dont know why is taking so long to arrive :shrug:

# SIOUX Very nice review and good to see an "old" overclocking.dk user among the very respectable users of xtremesystems. I would like to ask if you have a qualified recommendation about which X48 motherboard is best for overclocking the hardware in my sig (well except for the two 9800 GTX in SLI ;-), say choosing from the Asus P5E64 WS Evolution, the Asus P5E3 Premium or the Foxconn Blackops? I saw at octeamdenmark.dk that you had a Blackops on the way have you tested that one yet? My Striker II Extreme is killing me so I'm ready for something consistent and stable instead.

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# SIOUX Very nice review and good to see an "old" overclocking.dk user among the very respectable users of xtremesystems. I would like to ask if you have a qualified recommendation about which X48 motherboard is best for overclocking the hardware in my sig (well except for the two 9800 GTX in SLI ;-), say choosing from the Asus P5E64 WS Evolution, the Asus P5E3 Premium or the Foxconn Blackops? I saw at octeamdenmark.dk that you had a Blackops on the way have you tested that one yet? My Striker II Extreme is killing me so I'm ready for something consistent and stable instead.

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Thank you:)

I would go with the EVolution board for you setup. The results i have seen with blackops, is not as strong with quad core as the EVO:)

But they are both very good boards. if you just want easy BIOS and stability together with good OC potential, i would go with EVO for sure :)

Hey Sioux I am in US, and do you know about when this Board will launch? Is it x48 with ICH9R or ICH10R? Thanks,

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Hey Sioux I am in US, and do you know about when this Board will launch? Is it x48 with ICH9R or ICH10R? Thanks,

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ICH9R. X58 will have ICH10R.

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Thank you:)

I would go with the EVolution board for you setup. The results i have seen with blackops, is not as strong with quad core as the EVO:)

But they are both very good boards. if you just want easy BIOS and stability together with good OC potential, i would go with EVO for sure :)

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Thank you SIOUX you'r the man. I will try to get my hands on an Evolution then, I'm sick and tired of my SIIE.

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Thank you SIOUX you'r the man. I will try to get my hands on an Evolution then, I'm sick and tired of my SIIE.

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Your very welcome :)

hy

SIOUX what´s the max FSB that you achived booting from bios?
i can´t pass over 570 even with low multi (it boots mas simply restarts when windows screen appers), maybe is cpu limit but just wanna check if theres any option\trick missing here.

thank you :up:

@jpcastro:

CPU GTL & NB GTL can help you stabilize it.

already tried different values\combinations, notice that SIOUX used 0,62x and 0,67x in the bios pics but here is no go.

thanks anyway for the advise, i´ll continue making some more tests and try to get other cpu maybe!

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I just orderd this WS Evolution board. Does anybody have experiences with this board and 2x2 GB RAM since it seems that high density/capacity RAM really stresses the boards?
Another thing can you pull off the heatpipe system (for replacing the TIM) and put it back on without ruining the "pins/splits" (don't know what they are called) that fastens the heatpipe system?
(I also posted this question in another thread hope it is ok)

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I just orderd this WS Evolution board. Does anybody have experiences with this board and 2x2 GB RAM since it seems that high density/capacity RAM really stresses the boards?
Another thing can you pull off the heatpipe system (for replacing the TIM) and put it back on without ruining the "pins/splits" (don't know what they are called) that fastens the heatpipe system?
(I also posted this question in another thread hope it is ok)

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I had no problem running 2x2GB at all. i did not test more than 550fsb with 4GB, course its for my 24/7 puter :)


yes...but always be carfull when moving the splits. i also think you can bye them somewhere, if some should be broke. but not sure. Just use something non metalic to squeeze them together and then pull a little:)

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I had no problem running 2x2GB at all. i did not test more than 550fsb with 4GB, course its for my 24/7 puter :)


yes...but always be carfull when moving the splits. i also think you can bye them somewhere, if some should be broke. but not sure. Just use something non metalic to squeeze them together and then pull a little:)

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Thanks again SIOUX sounds amazing. You didn't happen to test your QX9650 combined with 2x2GB on this board as well? I can't wait to get this board. I badly need a success experience after two faulty Striker II Extreme boards.

Damn thats 1337 Kenneth :)
With 1:2 ?
I thought it would be too much load for the NB...!

Homer# I did not test with QX9650, as i use E8500 for everyday use:) i will see if i can find the time to try one of the comming days.

Marc# Nope...the EVO eats 550 with 2x2gb for breakfeast:D My old P5E WS PRO did not have a problem with 535fsb with 2x2 or 4x1gb. Also for stable sytem i have to back down to 540fsb, but its still quit ok.

SIOUX can I ask for hints to some "golden" settings for a FSB around 450 with the hardware in my sig - of course with FSB:MEM 1:2? I have not used an Intel chipset for ages and just got used to the BIOS on the SIIE. Need more time if I have to go systematically through the voltage settings. Another question is it possible to set the MHC read delay (tRD) on this MB and what is that parameter called in this BIOS?
I read elsewhere that you mentioned CPU GTL and NB GTL voltage reference as key to high FSB stability. On my SIIE I tweaked these settings as some of the last after adjusting PLL, VTT, NB and SB voltage. So far attempting to tweak the latter voltages at FSB 450 have resulted in lots of Windows corruptions. I keep the primary memory timings constant as well as the v-mem (8-8-8-8-24 2N 1.8 V) and leave the rest of the memory timings on Auto for now. I will work on it.
FSB 400 seems just fine 1N with a multi of 7.5

The best (passing 15 loops of SPi 32M) settings were as follows:
CPU voltage: Auto
CPU GTL: Auto
PLL: 1.7
FSB TV: 1.5
DRAM: 1.8
NB: 1.61 (incresing NB voltage results in freezes)
NB GTL: Auto
SB: 1.2
clock O-C V: Auto
Load line cal: Auto

Besides that I'm struggeling to stabelize my CPU at 10x400, MEM 1600, 7-7-7-20 2N. At least I can pass a 32M SPi but not 1h OCCT yet. Working on it (maybe I should aim lower).

Any help is very much appreciated, thanks.

:D The retails also running FSB like hell.

7 x 572 out of the box - Vtt = 1.38 & Vnb = 1.55 :

http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/4674/7x572ok5.th.jpg

Maybe I can do 600FSB ~ 1.6 Vnb:p:.

RAM is not much tweaked here, but as You can see this board offers the 1:1 divider also........;)

Think all problems are RAM related - I can't run 266 strap - 333 & 400 is fine and for me only 1:1 & 1:2 divider works - 5:8 is a no go......:(.

Need to try different RAM sticks soon.........

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How come this board still not out in the market yet? Will it be or it has already abandon?

It is out.
You just need to find a shop with some in stock :D

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How come this board still not out in the market yet? Will it be or it has already abandon?

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If you want you can order one from Portugal:D

ASUS P5E64 WS Evolution build 0501

This one improves much nVidia 9800GX2 VGA performance as well as some others GPUs. (3D01 especially :D)

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ASUS P5E64 WS Evolution build 0501

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Thanks pmp much appreciated. This time it is the right one based on the file name at least? ;) Do you have more info/changelog please?

thanks J :)

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If you want you can order one from Portugal:D

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so it is not going to be out in the US?

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so it is not going to be out in the US?

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Yes..it will be out in the US for sure...give it a week or two :)

Available on newegg.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131300

:D Thanks a lot Kenneth - You inspired me to buy this insane board:

http://img366.imageshack.us/img366/5562/8x575ub7.th.jpg

:up::up::up:

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:D Thanks a lot Kenneth - You inspired me to buy this insane board:

http://img366.imageshack.us/img366/5562/8x575ub7.th.jpg

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Anytime my friend :D

Don't know if those are posted already, but here it goes:

Some voltage measurement points for the P5E64 WS Evolution:
http://i37.tinypic.com/5wf9xz.jpg

p.s. My board overvolts the RAM quite a lot ( 1.60V @ BIOS results in 1.71 or 1.73 [ gotta check my notes ] in reality )

Updated pic with the following voltages measurement points:
CPU Voltage ( Vcore )
RAM Voltage ( Vddr )
NorthBridge Voltage ( Vnb )
SouthBridge SATA/PCI-E 1.5V Voltage ( Vsb_pcie )
FSB Termination Voltage ( Vfsb ) [ aka VTT Voltage ]
DDR3 RAM Termination Voltage ( DDRvtt ) [ Vddr_vtt ]
CPU PLL Voltage ( Vpll )

http://www.benchzone.com/datas/thumb...fsb_ddrvtt.jpg

I still have a hard time getting stable around FSB 445-450 with my setup.
It turns out that my systems crashes (show werid graphics/colors) within minutes in games (COD4, Crysis, Oblivion) when running 445x9 (RAM at 1780) even though it is Prime blend stable and Memtest stable for around 18 h. However running 421x9.5 (also 4 GHz) is Prime blend stabe for 24 h and runs games perfect. I wonder whether it is my CPU or the motherboard/BIOS that is holding me back? I don't think it is my memory since they run error free Memtest and It does not help to loosen timings or use 2N. I have been tweaking for months but can't get it stable at FSB 445+

Stable setting (24 h+ Prime Blend):

CPU Features
Ai Overclock Tuner Manual
CPU Ratio Setting: 9.5
FSB Strap to North Bridge: 333
FSB Frequency: 421
PCIE Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency DDR:1685MHz
DRAM Command Rate: 1N

DRAM Timings
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency: 8 DRAM Clocks
RAS# to CAS# Delay: 8 DRAM Clocks
RAS# PRE Time: 8 DRAM Clocks
RAS# ACT Time: 24 DRAM Clocks
RAS# to RAS# Delay: Auto
REF Cycle Time: 72
WRITE Recovery Time: Auto
READ to PRE Time: Auto

READ to WRITE Delay(S/D): Auto
WRITE to READ Delay(S): Auto
WRITE to READ Delay(D): Auto
READ to READ Delay(S): Auto
READ to READ Delay(D): Auto
WRITE to WRITE Delay(S): Auto
WRITE to WRITE Delay(D): Auto

Write to PRE Delay: Auto
PRE to PRE Delay: Auto
ALL PRE to ACT Delay: Auto
ALL PRE to REF Delay: Auto
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
DRAM Dynamic Write Control: Disabled
DRAM skew: Auto
Ai Clock Twister: Auto
Ai Transaction Booster: Auto

Voltage Settings
CPU Voltage: 1.5625
CPU GTL Voltage Reference: 0.67x
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.52
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.36
DRAM Voltage: 1.82
NB Voltage: 1.53
NB GTL Voltage Reference: 0.67
SB Voltage: 1.05
Clock Over-Charging Voltage: Auto

Load-Line Calibration: Normal
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled
CPU skew: Auto
NB skew: Delay 100 ps

excellent review, awesome board...it has all the ports

Does anybody have a bios for this board that supports E8600 cpu ?

Currently running 0501 but does not support this cpu correctly..

Cheers,

Rich.

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Does anybody have a bios for this board that supports E8600 cpu ?

Currently running 0501 but does not support this cpu correctly..

Cheers,

Rich.

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Have you tried 0401?

Yeah, i've tried em all :( Just flashed back to 0401 just to check, but still no go

I dont no if 0504 support e8600, but here it is http://www.benchzone.com/Downloads/B...5E64WS0504.rar