[Mini-Review] XFX 9800GX2 1GB GDDR3

Hi guys !





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About XFX :

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XFX, one of the best nVidia Graphics Card partners, is a leader in video game graphics and video cards.

XFX offers an expansive array of nVidia GeForce® graphics cards and nVidia nForce motherboards.

XFX is currently a global volume leader for NVIDIA® graphics cards. nVidia is presently the worldwide leader in programmable video game and production graphics processor technologies.

More about XFX and their products Here!

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Box


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Card

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Card @ side

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Card Front

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Card back

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Bundle

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Good bundle with company of heroes game (3 DVDs) , However there is no PCI-E 8 pin > 6 pin adapter !





Hardware

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Hardware Installed

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Specs:

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Temperatures:


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Idle Temp ( 52º/53º)


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Full Temp ( 78º) ( Cod4 Multiplayer)


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Temps are fine for 2 GPUs and Fan its not too noisy @ Auto speed (45%)



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E8400@ 4ghz Dual core
9800Gx2 default
Asus P5E
Windows Vista 64bit
Forceware 174.60




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Overclock





E8400@ 4250Mhz (500x8.5)
9800GX2 @ 700Mhz/1750/2000Mhz(Core/shaders/Memory)
Asus P5E
Windows Vista 64bit
Forceware 174.60




3DMark 2006 = 19400 Marks



Link >> http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=5883755






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E8400@ 4ghz
9800Gx2 default
Forceware 174.60
setings : High
1680x1050
Vista 64bit
dx9



!TimeDemo Run 2 Finished.
Play Time: 33.19s
Average FPS: 60.26
Min FPS: 34.80
Max FPS: 71.52





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E8400@ 4ghz
9800Gx2 default
Forceware 174.60
setings : High
1680x1050
Vista 64bit
DX10




Play Time: 36.94s
Average FPS: 54.14
Min FPS: 35.74
Max FPS: 65.18


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E8400@ 4ghz
ASUS P5E X38
9800Gx2 default
Forceware 174.60
setings :Very High
1680x1050
Vista 64bit
DX10



Play Time: 64.65s

Average FPS: 30.93
Min FPS: 15.96
Max FPS: 37.81






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E8400@ 4ghz
ASUS P5E X38
9800Gx2 default
Forceware 174.53
setings : High
1680x1050
Vista 64bit
DX10


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E8400@ 4ghz
ASUS P5E X38
9800Gx2 default
Forceware 174.53
setings :Very High
1680x1050
Vista 64bit
DX10



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Tree Videos i made with FRAPS so image quallity its not good , but we can have an idea how the game runs @ Very High :




E8400@ 4ghz
ASUS P5E X38
9800Gx2 default
Forceware 174.53
settings :Very High
1680x1050
Vista 64bit
DX10



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E8400@ 4ghz
ASUS P5E X38
9800Gx2 default
Forceware 174.53
setings : High
AA 4x
AF : On
1680x1050
Vista 64bit





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E8400@ 4ghz
ASUS P5E X38
9800Gx2 default
Forceware 174.53
setings : High
AA 4x
AF : On
1680x1050
Vista 64bit





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E8400@ 4ghz
ASUS P5E X38
9800Gx2 default
Forceware 174.53
setings : High
MSAA & AF : OFF
1680x1050
Vista 64bit



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E8400@ 4ghz
ASUS P5E X38
9800Gx2 default
Forceware 174.53
setings : High
MSAA : 4x
AF : 16x
1680x1050
Vista 64bit



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ASUS P5E X38
9800Gx2 default
Forceware 174.53
settings : Ultra High
Multisampling : 4x
1680x1050
Vista 64bit




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E8400@ 4ghz
ASUS P5E X38
9800Gx2 default
Forceware 174.53
settings : High
AA & AF : Off
1680x1050
DX10
Vista 64bit




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Result:


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E8400@ 4ghz
ASUS P5E X38
9800Gx2 default
Forceware 174.53
settings : High
AA : 4x
1680x1050
DX10
Vista 64bit



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E8400@ 4ghz
ASUS P5E X38
9800Gx2 default
Forceware 174.70
settings : High
AA : 4x
AF: On
1680x1050
Vista 64bit




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1680x1050
High settings
E8400@ 4Ghz
Asus P5E X38
9800GX2 Default
Forceware 174.53
Windows vista 64 bit




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» Quality«
» Performance «
» Overclock «
» Power comsumption «
» HDMI+HDCP «
» Cooler «





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» No PCI-E 8Pin Adapter «
» Price «





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Special thnks to Mr. Dima from PCDiga


Regards!

Few more SS in Crysis



Crysis
1680x1050
Very High settings
E8400@ 4Ghz
Asus P5E X38
9800GX2 Default
Forceware 174.53
Windows vista 64 bit



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Last level





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now we´re talking

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BFG 8800GT OC @ DX9 @ High (Windows XP) ------------------ XFX 9800GX2 @ DX10 @ Very High (Windows Vista 64bit)

--------- Crysis 1 ------------------------------------- Crysis 1 -------

--------- Crysis 2 ------------------------------------- Crysis 2 -------

--------- Crysis 3 ------------------------------------- Crysis 3 -------

--------- Crysis 4 ------------------------------------- Crysis 4 -------

--------- Crysis 5 ------------------------------------- Crysis 5 -------



regards!

wont the dually become a bottleneck for the card?

brilliant results man... thanks...

Wow, those DX9 'high' scores are double what I am getting from my 8800 Ultra, I am impressed. If Nvidia ever gets dual display working while running 3D I will be surely picking one of these up.

Thanks mascaras for results :)

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Originally Posted by 71 (Bryan)

wont the dually become a bottleneck for the card?

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You know any game that utilizes more than two cores?

Not bad except its too much. I really like the test with temps.

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Originally Posted by Cooper

Thanks mascaras for results :)







You know any game that utilizes more than two cores?

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Thks guys!


new screenshots in crysis ("In Game")

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Originally Posted by Envydia007

Not bad except its too much. I really like the test with temps.

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Full temp was tested while playing Cod4 Online .


More tests tomorow :up:


regards

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You know any game that utilizes more than two cores?

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UT3 (?)

Supreme Commander does use more than two cores

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Thks guys!


new screenshots in crysis ("In Game")






Full temp was tested while playing Cod4 Online .


More tests tomorow :up:


regards

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What was the fan duty cycle @ full load? You have pretty much convinced me to purchase a gx2 after that review :up:

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Originally Posted by 71 (Bryan)

wont the dually become a bottleneck for the card?

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Not even the slightest chance.

My stock 06 score is the same, 18.1k

My idle and load temps are one degree different from yours. I was using a extra fan for benching and didnt max as high as you.

Thanks images of the package, xfx does a good job with box art.

Mine is an XFX too. My wife did not like my new "i´m gaming - DO NOT DISTURB" sign that comes included :D

Very nice review, convinced me to pull the trigger on the Evga 9800GX2. Good to know it fits in the Antec 900 as well.

Cards look nice hope to see a 9800GTX review too...nice to see the card working on X38... hopefully the driver team will bring out some more terrific game support...

Very nice review, good job

thnks guys , i will update today with more tests !

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What was the fan duty cycle @ full load? You have pretty much convinced me to purchase a gx2 after that review :up:

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you wont regret , the card its not cheap but worth it :up:

I think the fan duty in auto its always @ 45%


i tested fan @ 55% using rivatuner , full temp playing Cod4 ~ 67º


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EDIT: 174.60 in crysis have bugs like stutering and "low" FPS , i installed agian the 174.53 from nvidia site and im stupid with performance and no stutering AT ALL , look at the new SS in "Crysis in game " VERY HIGH SETTINGS :D :D :D :D :D






regards

Im picking up a BFG one tomorrow all being well... just wondering how it will run crysis at 1920x1200 as i have 24" dell.

Nice results btw... looks like this card can really perform :)

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Originally Posted by MikeMK

Im picking up a BFG one tomorrow all being well... just wondering how it will run crysis at 1920x1200 as i have 24" dell.

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results from friend mine also with XFX 9800GX2 and 24" LCD @ 1900x1200

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High DX9
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Very High Dx10
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can you do some run thrus on cod 4 maps ambush and pipeline at 1680x1050 with max settings in game and report back min FPS

thanks

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Originally Posted by Rattle

can you do some run thrus on cod 4 maps ambush and pipeline at 1680x1050 with max settings in game and report back min FPS

thanks

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yes , i test it later




few more SS Crysy very High




9800Gx2 @ Very High @ 1680x1050

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9800Gx2 @ Very High @ 1680x1050

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more playable in Very high with 9800GX2 than with a HD3870 , 9600gt , etc , only in High :D


regards

no AA :)

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no AA :)

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Is that visible on such high resolutions ? I never ever played anything over 1280 x1024 as my monitor goes bezerk then :rofl:

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Originally Posted by Leeghoofd

Is that visible on such high resolutions ? I never ever played anything over 1280 x1024 as my monitor goes bezerk then :rofl:

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yep , i also think at high res. "no need" to use much or any AA or AF (maybe a litle if you want)


regards

i see no need for aa at very high res's but af always helps.
so the 9800gx2 turns out to be not as bad as we belived, but its still a large chunk out of some ones wallet lol.

added 15 new screenshots in Crysis Very High @ 1680x1050 in 1º post



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thanks for the cod4 multi shots man, there's a command to unlock FPS BTW
/set com_maxfps 0

:)

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Originally Posted by Rattle

thanks for the cod4 multi shots man, there's a command to unlock FPS BTW
/set com_maxfps 0

:)

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thnks


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tomorow i will test it in that maps you asked !



regards

your the man !

I want one so bad !

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Originally Posted by mascaras

results from friend mine also with XFX 9800GX2 and 24" LCD @ 1900x1200

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Thanks for posting that... very interesting. Looks like 1920x1200 very high is just out of reach, but high dx10 might be playable... even a mixture of the too. Looking forward to playing around with it. Anyhow, from your tests it seems 1650x1080 very high is prob the sweet spot for this card in crysis.

1680*1050 Very High DX10 x64
GX2@750/1900/2160 174.70 driver
37 + avarage ...24+ min :eek:
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Very nice there DStealth. That is quite the high OC on the card however, I don't think all 9800GX2 will reach this high.

Does anyone know if you can edit clocks and fan speeds via Nibitor and reflash the card so it is permanently like that?

Hi Mascaras. You aren't happening to be running dual displays are you? I am wondering how the GX2 reacts to such setups. Does the secondary display automatically become disabled when 3D is run, just to re-enable when it is closed out? Or do I have to manually enable/disable the display before 3D is run. If this is the case does the system require a reboot after doing so either way, and how long does the process take before it is finished once initiated?

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Hi Mascaras. You aren't happening to be running dual displays are you? I am wondering how the GX2 reacts to such setups. Does the secondary display automatically become disabled when 3D is run, just to re-enable when it is closed out? Or do I have to manually enable/disable the display before 3D is run. If this is the case does the system require a reboot after doing so either way, and how long does the process take before it is finished once initiated?

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Hi cantankerous

unfortnatly i only have 1 Monitor right now :(

if i can test with Two monitors i will report later ! :up:

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1680*1050 Very High DX10 x64
GX2@750/1900/2160 174.70 driver
37 + avarage ...24+ min :eek:
http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/3...ysisgw7.th.jpg

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nice score DS :)

In crysis bench and all other games that driver runs OK in windows Vista 64bit , but in Crysis game its not playble , there is a strange "stutering" , its not realy stutering its like the game run in slow motion , with 174.53 Its OK :)

regards

Nice results!

How does the card perform when it isn't ran in a pcie2 mobo? Does it go 8x/8x then and if so how much does it affect performance?

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Originally Posted by mascaras

Hi cantankerous

unfortnatly i only have 1 Monitor right now :(

if i can test with Two monitors i will report later ! :up:





nice score DS :)

In crysis bench and all other games that driver runs OK in windows Vista 64bit , but in Crysis game its not playble , there is a strange "stutering" , its not realy stutering its like the game run in slow motion , with 174.53 Its OK :)

regards

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Ok thanks! I would appreciate that if you could.

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Nice results!

How does the card perform when it isn't ran in a pcie2 mobo?

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i think the performance should be almost the same !



btw: added tests in Colin Mcrae and company of heroes Dx10



now its time for enjoy the card and have some Fun in Cod4 multiplayer!



http://img129.imageshack.us/img129/3235/singlegg3.jpg


http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/1416/scorekv0.jpg



:D :D :D



regards

nice review like always man. seems like a sweet card, too bad its so expensive compared to the 3870X2

Do you care to comment on the fan noise? Have you tried turning it up for lower temps? Do you find it loud when doing so?

Have you thought about overclocking the card as well? I am curious as to what your particular card can do across the board at max, yet clean and stable clocks.

nice review :D

I'm curious is the shell of the card actually means anything to holding the card together? i mean can you run the card without those two covers (that the stickers are on).
if so would it be feasable to get two HR-03-PLUS's and mount them on each card -just facing outward?

i hope someone understands :D

if the cores are facing each other i dont think it would work, unless the hr-03 has both sided of the mounting polished.

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Originally Posted by cantankerous

Do you care to comment on the fan noise? Have you tried turning it up for lower temps? Do you find it loud when doing so?

Have you thought about overclocking the card as well? I am curious as to what your particular card can do across the board at max, yet clean and stable clocks.

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fan @ auto (45%) not too noisy

fan @ 55% temps = 67º full

2k6 @ E8400 4250Mhz (500x8.5)
9800Gx2@ 700Mhz core / 2Ghz memory/ 1750Mhz shaders

>> http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=5883755



regards

Great thanks, is so 700/1750/2000 the maximum your card can do?

If you can, let me know at what % the fan actual gets to be too noisy?

Sorry for being a pain, thanks.

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Great thanks, is so 700/1750/2000 the maximum

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Nope, was only the first attempt OC @ bench i made :D

for what i saw in internet the average 9800Gx2 overclok is around 730/750Mhz Core - 1800/1850 shaders and 1100Mhz memory !

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If you can, let me know at what % the fan actual gets to be too noisy?

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55% - 60% i already can hear fan !


regards

Same 24/7 settings Vista :
78.5k 3d03
http://img247.imageshack.us/img247/3...origjy4.th.jpg
80k would be walk in the park under XP, also the upper result is not tweaked at all and CPU@ 24/7 ;)

In COD4 i marked something strange - if Vsync+TB are off, frames are moving from 160-180 to let say 30-40 in intensive scenes , but when they on - never going under 60:up: 1680*1050 SSAAx8Q AF16 all maxed...

@mascaras Very nice tread , sorry for posting my results in your tread, don't wanna hijack it ...just not to make another one...

so Mascaras and DStealth, since SLi is disabled on the NVidia control panel, there should be no problems with multimonitors, right... since that whole "u have to enable sli for the card to work" crap is out of the way...

Thank you for the review...

Looks good :).

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Mine is an XFX too. My wife did not like my new "i´m gaming - DO NOT DISTURB" sign that comes included :D

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Haha i could imagine that...

Keep gaming it...

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Same 24/7 settings Vista :
78.5k 3d03
http://img247.imageshack.us/img247/3...origjy4.th.jpg
80k would be walk in the park under XP, also the upper result is not tweaked at all and CPU@ 24/7 ;)

In COD4 i marked something strange - if Vsync+TB are off, frames are moving from 160-180 to let say 30-40 in intensive scenes , but when they on - never going under 60:up: 1680*1050 SSAAx8Q AF16 all maxed...

@mascaras Very nice tread , sorry for posting my results in your tread, don't wanna hijack it ...just not to make another one...

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No problem at all , we apreciate :)


regards

great review mascaras... now u need to change desktop wallpaper :D

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great review mascaras... now u need to change desktop wallpaper :D

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hehehhee , yes ! i forgot to change it , its the wallpaper from last review of BFG 9600GT :p:




BTW: added NFS Pro street tests !


regards

I recorded a few videos in crysis @ 1680x1050 @ very High but I had to use Fraps ! :(

with fraps image is bad , and fraps also cause a litle breaks while recording , but we can have an idea how the game run in very High


Crysis @ Very High @ 1680x1050


http://br.youtube.com/watch?v=_qWYkCTGrlE

http://br.youtube.com/watch?v=DtmL_B8TIDk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wCof8pC87WI



the game runs smoother and no sttutering ! :up:


regards !

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I had to use Fraps ! :(

with fraps image is bad , and fraps also cause a litle breaks while recording , but we can have an idea how the game run in very High

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How is IQ bad with fraps? Did you make sure you record at full resolution and not half, although that is going to affect your game performance for sure. I've used fraps quite a lot and I haven't found a program that would record at a better quality. Gamecam for instance was pretty bad in comparison.

I think fraps splits the clips at 4GB by default other than that, I've never had skips or breaks while recording, maybe it's your HD. When I'm recording, I'm saving to 3xHDs in raid0. You need fast HDs for smooth recording.

Nice review mate, I think I will get this card anyways, but how does the 9800GTX performs compared to this ? ;).

Nice review but do you think it's worth 600 bones? I have 2 Palit 8800GT 1GB cards and get over 16k in 3dmark and we all know how cheap you can get GT's now.

Ok,but with 2 8800GTs you can do nothing without a SLI board. And that costs some bones more :D .

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Ok,but with 2 8800GTs you can do nothing without a SLI board. And that costs some bones more :D .

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You forgot to mention the headache that is an Nvidia chipset ;) (790i possibly excluded)

Very nice. Thank you for taking the time to do so many game bench's at multiple resolutions/detail settings/AA&AF settings! Mustve been a fun night of gaming!!

Hey guys... finally got my GX2 installed here.

Pulled 19k @ 4ghz on my CPU, GPU stock on 3dmark 06, which is really quite nice.

Crysis FPS wise runs ALOT faster than my single GTX, however it feels stuttery still, even though most of the time its at or around 30fps. This is both with the 174.53's and 174.60's

Has anyone tried the 174.70's on this card yet?

http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=257054

Will give them a run later.

im using 154.70 since yesterday and Crysis runs very well , and also with 174.53 (here only with 174.60 crysis run bad )

Im using windows vista 64bit


what OS are you using and what Crysis resolution/settings??


regards

On vista x64. Running crysis 64bit, DX10 1920x1200 res. Been playing around with the settings from high to very high, and everything in between. Still seems to stutter, even with all on high, and FPS above 30.

I'll give the 174.70's a shot and see what they can do.

damn man you sure have the time to review that card :)

Few more SS in Crysis



Crysis
1680x1050
Very High settings
E8400@ 4Ghz
Asus P5E X38
9800GX2 Default
Forceware 174.53
Windows vista 64 bit



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now we´re talking

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BFG 8800GT OC @ DX9 @ High (Windows XP) ------------------ XFX 9800GX2 @ DX10 @ Very High (Windows Vista 64bit)

--------- Crysis 1 ------------------------------------- Crysis 1 -------

--------- Crysis 2 ------------------------------------- Crysis 2 -------

--------- Crysis 3 ------------------------------------- Crysis 3 -------

--------- Crysis 4 ------------------------------------- Crysis 4 -------

--------- Crysis 5 ------------------------------------- Crysis 5 -------



regards!

added new screenshots in previous post


regards

mascaras have you changed anything in game profiles in the nvidia control panel?
Whst sli performaance mode do you have it on, and how many pre rendered frames have you got it on?

Thanks

dude dont want to hijack ure thread or anything

but do u get this problem on multi gpu on

First i was playing dota on battlenet .. quit the program.. was on another forum
a forumer asked me to post that multi gpu /multi monitor thingy.
i was on multi gpu mode
and guess what u see in the pic below like almost after 5 minutes

http://s.lowyat.net/uploads//attach-...1963_thumb.jpg
full pic at this link.. to see clearer
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?ac...post&id=428791
can see the warcraft 3 dota map mixed with my desktop screenshot eventhough warcraft has been exited. the frames are still in the cards mem??

this is why i think the asus hd3870x2 TOP/ROG Dual Fan /4DVi rocks.. u can crossfire on 2 monitors, play dreamscene on both ( cant do that on this card), even game in windowed mode and watch a movie on the other monitor while msning away with dreamscene running..

this 9800gx2 is only good for ridiculous fps gains on games..
so a pure gamer this card is definitely for u..

just my 2 cents..

Change to 174.60 or 174.70-74 drivers to fix that problem. It was an issue while running multi GPU mode on 174.53 drivers.

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Change to 174.60 or 174.70-74 drivers to fix that problem. It was an issue while running multi GPU mode on 174.53 drivers.

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thanks
trying it now..

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Originally Posted by johnyz333

mascaras have you changed anything in game profiles in the nvidia control panel?
Whst sli performaance mode do you have it on, and how many pre rendered frames have you got it on?

Thanks

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Hi

a dont changed nothing in NV control panel ( dont even opened it yet :p: )

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Originally Posted by cstkl1

dude dont want to hijack ure thread or anything

but do u get this problem on multi gpu on

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thats a Bug with 174.53 driver , i have 174.74 beta (problem fixed and good performance) !






btw: tests in game Frontlines added to 1º Post





regards

Crysis Overclock



E8400 @ 4Ghz
4Gb Gskill PQ 8000
ASUS P5E X38
XFX 9800GX2 OC @700/1750/2000 (core / shaders / ram)
Forceware 174.74 beta
Windows Vista Ultimate 64bit
Resolution : 1680x1050







Crysis / DX9/ High Settings


Play Time: 31.62s
Average FPS: 63.24
Min FPS: 30.32
Max FPS: 76.45



http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/3158/crysisocpo2.jpg







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Crysis / DX10/ High Settings


Play Time: 34.05s
Average FPS: 58.74
Min FPS: 33.25
Max FPS: 74.65


http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/7...socdx10mu7.jpg








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Crysis / DX10/ Very High Settings



Play Time: 56.17s
Average FPS: 35.61
Min FPS: 18.40
Max FPS: 41.76


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Regards!

Thanks, odd how the minimum fps was higher in DX10 'High' as compared to DX9 'High'.

Are those overclocks the highest you can get stable and clean?

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Thanks, odd how the minimum fps was higher in DX10 'High' as compared to DX9 'High'.

Are those overclocks the highest you can get stable and clean?

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Hi

nope , i just didnt try push harder yet !

but for what iv´seen in forum and others foruns , all 9800GX2 cards should do at least 730Mhz in core , 1850mhz shaders and 2200Mhz ram with no problems


:up:

holy c**p... became so enthousiast after reading this that i ordered one..... just 2 things that i forgot.

1 my psu doesnt have a 8 pin, will this be a problem or can it run on 2x 6 pin.

2 forgot that i already had problems instaling a 9600gt into my case, so i'm hoping this beast isn't to huge.


Nice review mascaras ;)

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Originally Posted by LyP0

holy c**p... became so enthousiast after reading this that i ordered one..... just 2 things that i forgot.

1 my psu doesnt have a 8 pin, will this be a problem or can it run on 2x 6 pin.

2 forgot that i already had problems instaling a 9600gt into my case, so i'm hoping this beast isn't to huge.


Nice review mascaras ;)

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Hi!

1- depend of manufacturer (XFX dont have 8 pin adapter) but i think BFG or ASUS have !


2 - its the same size as 8800 Ultra or HD3870X2 :p:


regards

In your Frontlines test I noticed you have Foliage turned up. Are you experiencing major halting/stuttering with that turned up? I can play that game maxed out on my Ultra except for that setting. Just about anyone I talked to with any card (besides 9800GX2) has this problem unless Foliage is turned off. It plays great for a few seconds, halts for a few seconds, plays for a few seconds etc.

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Originally Posted by cantankerous

In your Frontlines test I noticed you have Foliage turned up. Are you experiencing major halting/stuttering with that turned up? I can play that game maxed out on my Ultra except for that setting. Just about anyone I talked to with any card (besides 9800GX2) has this problem unless Foliage is turned off. It plays great for a few seconds, halts for a few seconds, plays for a few seconds etc.

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I can confirm that tomorow when i change to 9800GX2 again (im with 9800GTX right now)

then then I'll report here !

regards

Great, I appreciate your time in looking into this matter.

how to enable very high settings?

nm found it :)

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Originally Posted by mascaras

I can confirm that tomorow when i change to 9800GX2 again (im with 9800GTX right now)

then then I'll report here !

regards

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This was a driver issue afterall. Upon getting the new 1.02 patch for Frontlines I came across this article here.

http://planetfrontlines.gamespy.com/....php?id=149644

Apparently the new 174.74 drivers fix this issue. Since you are using those to begin with for your testing that is probably why you never came across what I mentioned. No need to waste your time looking into it now!

Great review, my X2 is artifacting so I'll be swapping it for a GX2

Hi Mascaras. If you still have the GX2 in your system can you check how the clock frequencies of the card is affected by the adjusting of the PCIE bus in the motherboards bios? I am sure you have heard of how the 9600 gets affected by overclocking the pcie bus, can you see how the GX2 scales when this is done? Meaning if you raise your PCIE bus by say 5%, does the core clocks of the GX2 also go up by 5%? 600mhz (GX2 def. clocks) X 1.05 (105mhz PCIE clocks) = 630mhz GPU clocks in the end, according to Rivatuner monitoring as opposed to 600mhz being read by the driver?

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Originally Posted by cantankerous

Hi Mascaras. If you still have the GX2 in your system can you check how the clock frequencies of the card is affected by the adjusting of the PCIE bus in the motherboards bios? I am sure you have heard of how the 9600 gets affected by overclocking the pcie bus, can you see how the GX2 scales when this is done? Meaning if you raise your PCIE bus by say 5%, does the core clocks of the GX2 also go up by 5%? 600mhz (GX2 def. clocks) X 1.05 (105mhz PCIE clocks) = 630mhz GPU clocks in the end, according to Rivatuner monitoring as opposed to 600mhz being read by the driver?

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hi

yes , i think all 9000 séries have that (9600GT , 9800GTX & 9800GX2)


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Please note that the core clock of both GPUs is dependent on the PCI-Express clock signal, just like on the GeForce 9600 GT.

Source

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and also the 9800GTX !



regards

Ok thanks. I figured as much but was wondering if you could test it out first hand and let me know if it scales exactly as described, and if you actually see the different clocks listed in software and if performance/score increases improve because of it.

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Ok thanks. I figured as much but was wondering if you could test it out first hand and let me know if it scales exactly as described, and if you actually see the different clocks listed in software and if performance/score increases improve because of it.

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Im back to GX2 from GTX :)

tomorow i run PCI-E @ 105 and compare with my previous run with pci-e @ 100


:up:

Awesome, thanks a ton. I look very forward to your results.

vary nice review man.........

It´s a very expencive video card....here in argentina you can buy this card for u$s780 and its the most chep please.....

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Im back to GX2 from GTX :)

tomorow i run PCI-E @ 105 and compare with my previous run with pci-e @ 100


:up:

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Hi Mascaras,

Can I ask you a favour? From what I can tell your figures come from timedemos?

Can you please run fraps in the backround and just observe the average number and report the 'feel'.

The reason I ask is my 3870x2 died and I need to replace it. I have a 24" monitor but played crysis at 1680x1050 'very high'. I got ~20fps but it was playable.
I am using my backup card 88gt and last night, using the same setings i turned on fraps and i got ~20fps with the gt!

I need to know if the gx2 delivers consistant figures and is worth the extra money (the gx2 is twice the price of the gts/gtx) over the 512 gts/98gtx with the 9900 series coming in July...

I understand if you don't have time but I would appreciate it. Thanks for reading!

first post have lot of screenshots playing Crysis with FRAPS runing (showing FPS)

you want me to run Fraps in crysis benchmark and see the Average , is that ???



runing Fraps @ Crysis Benchmark

9800GX2 default
1680x1050
Very High


2008-04-03 15:32:15 - crysis64
Frames: 1958 - Time: 60602ms - Avg: 32.409 - Min: 22 - Max: 40








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Btw:

with new 174.74 WHQL and 9800GX2 OC @ 700Mhz/1000Mhz/1750Mhz (Core / Mem / shader)





!TimeDemo Run 2 Finished.
Play Time: 56.05s
Average FPS: 35.69
Min FPS: 21.94
Max FPS: 41.76




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regards

Because it's XFX thread, I just want to share with you what I've done with my XFX 9800GX2.
3d06 174.74 XG, XP x86, 800Mhz/1998Mhz/2332Mhz - 23042 marks still on air:)
Very nice card I think :yepp:
http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/5...3042db5.th.jpg

Very Nice review... I personally went form a 3870X2 to an eVGA 9800GX2 and it was worth every pennie.. this card is much more playable on my 24in monitor.

The only thing i noticed was degraded 2D image quality but not enough to deter me from keeping the card. The 790i board is next on my list. I should've went with XFX tho but i got this one for only $500 shipped USD :)

Results from a friend mine with 9800GX2 @ 1900x1200


9800GX2 @ 675Mhz/2200Mhz
Crysis
Windows Vista 64Bit
Very High Settings
DX10
Resol = 1900x1200
Average = 27 Fps



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:up:

I hop you have bought all that games :ROTF:

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I hop you have bought all that games :ROTF:

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yep always , and i bought Two new games this week :p:




ASSASSIN`S CREED (DX10)


E8400@4Ghz
4Gb gskill
Geforce 9800GX2 default
forceware 174.74
Windows Vista 64
1680x1050
Assassins @ DX10


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TrackMania Nations Forever



E8400
9800GX2 Default
Windows Vista 64bit
1680x1050
Very High Settings (Blur & Boom Off)
AA : 4x
AF : 16x



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Bench Game @ 1680x1050 with All settings ON + AA x4 + AF: x16 = 49.2 Fps





regards!

3Dmark Vantage


E8400@ 4Ghz (445x9)
9800GX2 @ 700/1050/1800 (core/memory/shader)
Forceware 175.16
Windows Vista 64bit



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regards