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the king of cool fits:up:
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sweet, but where you gonna keep the HD?
Look on the right side in the first picture.Quote:
Originally Posted by jdm003
Very slick brother.
No cd drive?
Use a laptop slotload, or a USB drive. As to HDDs, you can also mount full sized ones on the sides of the cage. I see that about 8 can be mounted, granted you WILL need to drill and grommet holes if you value your hearing
Monster, pure evil.
Can you show if there's enough room above the rad for a/dual slotload opticals :D ?
oh sweet, my damn monitor need to be re-calibrated :rofl:Quote:
Originally Posted by filthysanchez
I dont want to give too much away but there are options to place pump and a res to the front of the rad if you dont want to run fans on both sides.
As for opticals well thats a personal decision not to go with them in the case.
Three reasons for this:
1.they are slow and noisey.
2.they have the same faith as floppy drives.they will be extinct fairly soon.
3.external ones offer better placement beside your monitor or are portable.
Very nice...I got a 120.2 in the front of my A16 but found it really, really tight once I'd used the shoud and 38mm fans and shoe-horned the optical and HD above it. I was going to ditch it in favour of the A77 but this has inspired me to keep it, more pics please!
nice pictures mate
Would this not heat up the hard drives?
No if anything it might cool them down :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Gamekiller
Ah, I see. I wasn't sure how it works, so I didn't know if the radiator got hot.
Awesome thanks for this post I've been looking for a case to build a nice WC rig. Personally I would go with 120.2 radiator to fit DVD Blu Ray drives. Very clever idea for placement!
no I don't think that's correct, it would heat up the hard drives, because its a radiator, if it were a condensor then it would cool the drives off. The radiator will radiate the heat from the cpu or whatever being cooled and thus the drives will heat up
No probs with the HDD's beside the PA.
They are only in contact with the outer frame which is cold anyway.
This case is so chilled its unbelievable!
The only thing is that they are a tight sqeeze.
As I said earlier there are options on the HDD's which are in the photo below.
Myself I plan on going for SSD's in the near future so that should eradicate more noise and heat.
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TheThreeDegrees what did you use to mount the hard drives? It's hard to tell from the pictures. Looking at your case sold me on getting one now.
Looks like he drilled some extra holes on the side there, and then mounted the drives via the mounting holes on the bottom of the drives.
nice case .. is there room for longer psus ?
Very slick with the harddrives... never would've thought to do that. :up:
I was planning on doing something like that with my stacker 830, and using a slot drive mounted in the top with the slot being open to the carry handle area.
anyway your project looks good!
Thanks everyone for your kind words:)
The hard drives can easily be screwed into the chassis.There are enough holes but you can easily add another if you want to mount them really tight.
To jetjaguar:
there is another inch and a half before my PSU meets the top fan.
Send me your PSU measurements and I will check it out for you.
Edit.Just measured that.Its 190mm from the back of the case to the middle fan.So to answer your question,yes.
On this note for those who like their bay controllers,if you want to run the rad like I have done you have 90mm of depth from the front till you reach the rad.
As you can see below this is about as far forward you can get with a PA120.3 without scaryficing the front IO panel function.
For the brave you can remove the IO connector block and push the rad all the way to the front.
There is about half an inch to spare between the top of the rad and the top of the case.
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b3...4032008312.jpg
So, if the radiator is put up a little bit, a slotloading optical could be scooted below it, and run out the front :)
Well there you have me!;)
Its too tight to consider putting one in.
This is what I'm going for.And whats peachy about this is that I can also install a spare sata disk for backing up onto.:cool:
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nice job, i was going to do something very similar, untill i found out the pc-a77 exists.
The full tower is a safe bet but its competing with the likes of the TJ09/07 which is a winner everytime.
Got any update on how the finished system looks?
I'd love to see it, because I was going to get the similar A16, but originally wanted to place the rad in the bottom of the case (i.e. cut a hole into the bottom). Your solution looks much better though, especially since I don't need the CD Drive very often.
And btw, I emailed the German distributor of Lian Li, and the A77 won't be available until the end of May, at the very earliest :(
yes I'm chugging along.
Cant make up my mind internally with the blocks but the PA is sweet!!
here are some more pics.
I now have the shroud fitted also.
The only modification I had to do was lower the shroud about 3mm so that the IO panel would not be put under pressure from the shroud.
Also with the shroud in place there is not a hope of any fan controllers etc unless you remove the top case fan and push the rad back further into the case.
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here are some more images.
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b3...9032008321.jpg
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without shroud or fans.
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plenty of room up above to mount a pump i just dont have mine mounted correctly.I cannot make up my mind!!
If I was buying a new PSU I would look at one of those with detachable extensions.
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Very nice man, how are your temps?
Ambient temperature here in my place is around 20C.
not sure if you have experienced a wolfdale yet but what is really impressive is that when I stress test the CPU the temps barely rise around my set voltage of 1.3.
Its difficult to tell how the shroud performs but it does seem air flow is spread much better over the PA.
All in all I am very happy that I chose this case and this rad.:up:
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How is your radiator mounted inside the case?
^good question.its not.
its just sitting there with the tubing and top of the case offering support.It wont fall out as it is a snug fit.Its difficult to see from the photos but the RAD actually fits nicely between the top case fan and the front IO panel.
Of course there are holes on the side of the PA which are used to mount the shroud which I could use to tighten the rad to the HDD frame.
Alternatively I may have to construct/buy L shaped brackets and use the holes on the PA that are used to mount fans and tighten the rad to the HDD frame.
Can the top cover be removed or is it fixed with rivets?
Top cover comes off.Just four screws holding it in place.Just aswell as it allows good access when cabling and mounting the rad.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jupiler
Thx for the info.
This case might be a good alternative for my PC71 (although I thought buying the PC-A70B acouple of months ago).
Now that I bought a used PA120.2 and only have 1 HD and DVD-R in that rig, this case seems perfect for it.
Your idea for placing the HD's is great. I'd never thought of installing them there.
Nice job you did there. :up:
My case just arrived.
I'm not used having small cases, so I was kinda surprised after I took it out of the package.
It looks so tiny compared to my PC70 and PC71.
I noticed that those 2 small plates in the front bays were a pain to remove.
I hope I'll be able to start installing all hardware tomorrow.
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Originally Posted by Jupiler
Jupiler be carefull with the barbs on the RAD.They will make a mess of the bottom of the case if you are constantly taking it in and out during the building phase.Put something on them.
i'm just waiting on a GPU block.
Cannot wait to see your new build:) :) !
Barbs will facing upwards, so that won't be a problem.
Problem I was having is how to install my HD on the side of front cage, like you have.
I won't be able to close the right panel if I want it installed that way, so the only option left ATM is to simply place it on the bottom of the case, under the rad (gives me about 1cm clearance between the 2).
Top 2 bays will be used for fancontroller and DVD.
does that mean you are placing the rad on the bottom and not upwards like I have it?
that would certainly be awkward no?
As for the drives do they not fit becuase they are larger than mine?
Rad will be facing upwards.
Here's a pic of it mounted. Sorry for the crappy quality.
ah I see.Thought you were putting in a bigger rad.
thats clever though cause at least you get to keep your drive bays:D
mine are all but gone:(
How about getting one of those Mountain Mods HD caddies That attach to a fan opening? If you cut it down then you could have the HD mounted off the top radiator fan in the hanging down position. On my A16 I used a piece of foam to sit the rad on the floor, used 2 pump anti vibration mounts to secure it to the case (drilled them into the shroud) and that left me with enough space to mount a raptor and an optical, very, very tight, just make sure you've got a modular psu...or it's even worse. Hope this helps.
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So you don't have to drill any holes or make any modifications to the original case to install the hard drives like that? There are just holes already there that will take the given screws??
I don't know which model of HD's he's using, but my Samsung SP2504C won't fit if I wanna install it the same way like he did.
The HD is 2.6 cm thick (like most ones) and if I want to install it the same way, I'm forced to move it a couple of cm towards the motherboard tray, so that I'll still be able to close the right side panel.
Distance between front bay and side panels = 2.5cm.
Which fan controller are you using? Silverstone do a handy accessory called the SPD06. It enables you to run a hard drive behind a fan controller, so you only use one 5.25" bay. I tried it with a Zalman and the Sythe Kama meter and it worked very well. I had no heat problems with a raptor.
You could also use those mountainmods HD brackets instead of mounting the hard drives like that.
Something I discovered after I'd mounted the radiator are these genuine Lian-Li radiator brackets, they're an accessory for the 343, they mount to the fan's.
http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/e...ackets_380.jpg
Yep,
I wanted those, but unfortunately, they were out of stock and the store where I bought my case will have them back around mid May.
I got mine from Performance PC's in the US, they're one of the few US companies that'll ship to the UK using standard postage and not DHL etc, the postage is suprisingly good value, for example, it was cheaper for me to buy two fans (which they sleeved and converted to standard fan tail) from them and have them posted from Florida than it was buying the stock fans from the uk!
I bought mine here
http://www.pc-cooling.de/Gehaeuse/Li...+Netzteil.html
and payed 8.50€ shipping to Belgium, which is really cheap.
For you, UK would have been 16.60€, which is fair too.
I've been dealing with them for several years now and never had any complaints.
Excellent customer service too.
Bought it last thuesday around 1:00 PM, payed by CC and 3 hours later, the case was shipped.
But that's off-topic.
Anyway,
I'm almost done with mine, need to finish some small things.
But this is how it looks ATM
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Looks like he has the same drives as I have for my primary drive, Seagate's newer 250GB slim single platter drive. Very unique idea of mounting, never would have thought about doing that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jupiler
Which model exactly, if you don't mind?
Exactly how does putting the rad in front work? Won't the fans push the heat radiated back into the case?
I don't think the water is that hot and as long as you have fans, it'll be alright.
Btw, a 2 x 120mm rad would be a better fit because you can then have your DVD ROM or whatsoever on the bays at the top.
Looks great Jupiler! :yepp:
Yea really a nice build. Planing to swap out my A71B for this case. Want a bit smaller case but same coolingperformance. So probably i will use my PA120.3 or buy a PA120.2 to the front :)
Nicely done Jupiler, that is the cleanest Lian Li I have seen. I cant see any wires or cables. Does the case come with those slotted pci brackets?
Thx for the comments.
Yes, those slotted brackets are standard.
After finding out which Seagate model they were (ST3250410AS), I bought me one.
Very light compared to my Samsung SP2504C, faster and more quiet too.
I installed the HD the same way TheThreeDegrees did and it fits nicely.
By doing this, I was able to place the rad on the bottom of the case, resting on a piece of foam so it won't scratch the bottom.
I then used some thick pieces of foam between both sides of the rad and the front cage, so it stays nicely in place without having to use any screws or so.
Fancontroller is installed in the top with DVD-RW right under it.
Whats ur temp reading with 120x2 rad???
feel like change to this casing too...
but it look like with Lian Li mounting. it give enough clearance to mount some HDD benhind the Rad...right??? if using only push fan config from front...