Russian Scientists Claim Secrets of Time Travel to Be Unlocked Later This Year

Some Russian mathematicians claim that when the atom-smashing machine at the European Particle Physics Centre near Geneva opens for business at the end of April, one of the results of wee particles being smashed together at insane speeds could be a rip in the fabric of time itself, allowing for tiny particles to jump in time. If we figure out how to hold open said rip, maybe, just maybe, we could go back or forward in time. Finally, a way to make it so that bully at school is never born! Although look out, he might be destined to be a general in the upcoming robots vs. humans war and wiping him out of existence might doom humanity for ever. Or not, you never can tell with these things.

youtube video link, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UAWB4...ater-this-year

more garbage science, not news.

seems cool, doubt it'll work though tbh for many years if at all ever

im pretty sure you can only go into the future with this, the guy seemed to not mention that

I HIGHLY HIGHLY HIGHLY doubt this will EVER happen.

progression will be our downfall

when they smash 2 atoms together, wont it make a black hole?

just some clarifications from what i've heard so far.

the new collision center will be the first to theoretically see beyond the planck length (approximately 1.6 × 10−35 metres, 6.3 × 10−34 inches, or about 10−20 times the diameter of a proton)whom within it string theory holders says the extra 6 or 7 dimensions are hidden.

from that to reveal the time travel................. long distance.

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I HIGHLY HIGHLY HIGHLY doubt this will EVER happen.

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As much as the subject can be fascinating, i have to agree with the above.

Can you even imagine the philosophical implications if this holds any shred of truth? The Catholic church will be all in a tissy.

And the secret is.....



It is pointless. :p:

The reason being that a human being can not survive such sudden rapid jump in time.

Mankind will destroy itself for sure.

erm it isnt possible , or else someone would have come back and told us already.

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when they smash 2 atoms together, wont it make a black hole?

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if it does then won't earth collapse on itself and we all die?

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erm it isnt possible , or else someone would have come back and told us already.

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i'm from the future :p

Even so, that's only if one perceives time as an actual dimension, and not just a tool the human mind creates to navigate in the cosmos :)

Clairvoyants meeting cancelled due to unforeseen events.

Russian scientists...Sounds impossible.

most likley the thing with implode and suck the world into the black hole it creates.

I dont want to KNOW the future - i want to make myown. going back would be cool tho, meeting people like Julus Ceasar etc or even seeing the correct colours of the dinosaurs.

If anyone can do it, i have my money on the russians 100% :D

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Sick pun :)

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most likley the thing with implode and suck the world into the black hole it creates.

I dont want to KNOW the future - i want to make myown. going back would be cool tho, meeting people like Julus Ceasar etc or even seeing the correct colours of the dinosaurs.

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Forget that. I'd go back and make sporting bet's like Biff in Back to the future....I'd be rich man.

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:up: made me giggle

imo, time travel is not possible...it's not logical.

In regards to black holes being created with particle accelerators... Stephen Hawking predicted this phenomenon years ago. Due to the extremely low mass initially involved, the "micro hole" instantly collapses on itself.

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erm it isnt possible , or else someone would have come back and told us already.

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Maybe they have and they're locked in a house full of crazies. :)

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imo, time travel is not possible...it's not logical.

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ask a man 25 years ago that ppl from all over the world that poeple will be gathering in a virtual place talking about everything (and computers in particular in xs) - he'll say the same for sure.

Gathering in a virtual place before 25 years wasn't possible but it was logical,time travel is not logical at all and you'll see it only in movies.

Bout time, I need to head to the future to pick up a sports almanac!

as i recall indeed parts of time travel might not be possible ever.

most say jumping back isn't possible only forward. (that's why we hadn't see ppl from the future )

but i'm optimistic :D

Well the Internet wasn't exactly limited by the laws of physics

But time travel is possible into the future via relativity. Travel at 99.999% the speed of light to the center of the galaxy and it might take 40 years for the astronaut but when he returns earth will have had 100,000 years pass by

TIme travel hasnt, isnt and wont happened/happening/happen, unless its military only and has been keept 100% secret for Joe Average.

Think about all the things that have happened that would have been reversed if time travel is possible. If a time machine is ever invented, ever, we'd know because someone would have come back in time and let the cat out the bag.

mindjob: go back in time to prevent 9/11, you prevent it, it doesnt happen, so when the time comes for you to go back in time to change it, you wont need to because you've already stopped it. Aye.

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Maybe they have and they're locked in a house full of crazies. :)

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possible , but he would have brought something Kickass with him like a cure for aids/cancer.

anyway , yeah the whole microblackhole and sucking everthing back into itself , i saw that on tv once some english program . imagine . breaking the the universe . that would suck. :banana::banana::banana::banana:ing Russians

because of the paradoxes that might happen when going to past i think that won't be happen but future time travel.......... that's different issue.

The next Terminator movie will be based on a true life story.

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when they smash 2 atoms together, wont it make a black hole?

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Don't quote me on this, but I THINK they predict that if said black holes were to appear they would be so small that they would evaporate through Hawking radiation before they would have a chance of interacting with any other objects... and so the Earth won't be sucked into this said black hole...

As for time travel, if you could travel backwards in time, I don't know, I doubt it?

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hahaha that made me LOL :ROTF: :up:

As someone pointed out Hawking wrote about this stuff and predicted it all years ago. Yes time travel is possible they say, just not on any practical scale. Sort of like "teleportation" whereby they destroy one particle and a particle elsewhere seemingly takes on it's exact quantum signature, theoretically breaking the speed of light in the process and this could technically be construed as "time travel" as well. All these mundane terms suck for explaining what's really happening though. Language is entirely inadequate.

What happens is that articles like these get written by "journalists" who barely passed advanced basket weaving and ended up as "writers" explaining all this science to us, the masses.

Anyway, was good for a "WTF is he talking about" moment.

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erm it isnt possible , or else someone would have come back and told us already.

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My thoughts exactly.:yepp:

if worm holes will become a real thing then one can go through time back and forward easily.

one side is on earth and one side does a big circle at almost the speed of light and goes back to earth...

both will be on earth but not at the same time and therefor allowing time travel between them.

if worm holes were reality....

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and therefor allowing time travel between them.

if worm holes were reality....

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Haven't you ever seen how fast a grandma drops an apple in a supermarket when there's a worm hole in it? That's faster than the speed of light :ROTF:

I actually saw something on discovery about time travel. Not using the particle accelerator though, a different device. This device how ever will only be able to send particles into the future. They said however, that you couldn't just go back into the prehistoric ages, you can only go back to when the first time machine was created. So if the machine was built in 2010, and the year was 2015, you could only see back to 2010, same way for seeing into the future, if the machine was destroyed in 2050, you could only see upto 2050

yeah and maybe smashing those particles against each other will create.... icecream!!! :D

honestly, there are so many wild theories based on nothing... i wish theyd just sht up and work with what they know instead of speculating what COULD be.

Says the guys who were probably the same ones who thought it would be cool to declare the North Pole part of Russia...

.................will never reach the days of "beam me up scotty" :D damn !

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.................will never reach the days of "beam me up scotty" :D damn !

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Well, that's been discussed to death too. The biggies are energy and data storage. Quantum computing will resolve data storage issues, but then you have to come up with all the energy it takes to destroy every particle in your body and reassign those signatures in the correct order somewhere else to recreate you. Doesn't seem to be a worthwhile engagment to me.

I'd rather have Saaya's instant ice cream machine.:rofl:

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yeah and maybe smashing those particles against each other will create.... icecream!!! :D

honestly, there are so many wild theories based on nothing... i wish theyd just sht up and work with what they know instead of speculating what COULD be.

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If scientists went by that, we would still be using gas lamps, cooking our food over an open fire, and going places with horse drawn carriages. Tons of the things we have now at one point would have been thought as fantasy.

The other 6 dimensions are all just from Chuck Norris round house kicking people extra hard. Only happened 6 times now, and he's vowed to stop creating wormholes as well.

The thing they are working on is super and subtime. Basically infinitely huge or infinitly deep holes in spacetime.

haha humans screwed up the environment, now they can screw up time itself :eek:

Its not about jumping around in time, its possible to go forward, we know that, we're all doing it at rate X as we sit here. However introduce super huge masses and rate X can change. If you speed rate X up, or find a way to get it to increase, you can pass forward in time. Backwards though won't happen, rate X cannot be negative as far as we know.

so at the end did they let the reporter use it or something? there were 2 of him! thats truly amazing!

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Mankind will destroy itself for sure.

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If so, what is going to save us from natural death? Indeed, progression. (by natural death i mean earths energy running out/sun engulfing earth/meteor destroying us etc etc

Instead of time travel which surely we will never master alternative (destroy us). Colonization is the only practical means of avoiding our natural death. Which shouldent be for another 5 billion years.

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Its not about jumping around in time, its possible to go forward, we know that, we're all doing it at rate X as we sit here. However introduce super huge masses and rate X can change. If you speed rate X up, or find a way to get it to increase, you can pass forward in time. Backwards though won't happen, rate X cannot be negative as far as we know.

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Lies....just do a Superman. ;) :D

Depending on where you are, im actually from the future ;)

If we're unlocking the secrets of time travel later in this year, why haven't we heard about it already? ;)

I know I'd send myself some stock quotes... as would everyone else... which would probably lead to a collapse of the stock market in general. Hmm, maybe I wouldn't. Therefore, because I wouldn't send myself stock quotes in the future, and I have failed to receive said stock quotes, time travel *must* already be a reality.

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if it does then won't earth collapse on itself and we all die?

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You two need to both read up on how a black hole is formed.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_h...nd_evaporation

In principle, a sufficiently energetic collision within a very powerful Particle accelerator could produce a micro black hole. In practice, this is expected to require energies comparable to the Planck energy, which is vastly beyond the capability of any present, planned, or expected future particle accelerator to produce. Some speculative models allow the formation of black holes at much lower energies. This would allow production of extremely short-lived black holes in terrestrial particle accelerators. No evidence of this type of black hole production has been presented as of 2007.

If I remember correctly the energy required is upwards of the amount of energy present in the entire universe

Also read up on a book called a Briefer time in History by Hawkings. He presents a compelling arguement of both why time travel is most likely impossible, and if it is possible only future travel is possible, or in otherwards be can't tell anyone in the past we've been to the future.

However, kinetic energy models show that if we start making super colliders, or not just two piece arcing accelerators, more like, 50-100 path collidiers, we might be able to manage it :)

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I HIGHLY HIGHLY HIGHLY doubt this will EVER happen.

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Timecop wasnt a documentary?!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!?!?

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erm it isnt possible , or else someone would have come back and told us already.

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what if they don't want us to know?