Some Official Cryo-Z news

Ok to feed you some more info I have had permission for an update:

OCZ will ONLY be selling these units direct, (so when I said only available in the USA thats because they will only be on sale from 1 place in the USA)

We will have a few units available from early next week starting 4th feb, I will tell you when they are available here on this forum.

Each unit is hand tested by our engineers, this takes time so units will be released every week or so as they are tested.

We have had delays..yes, we have decided due to the nature of the product its best we sell directly. You will be contacting OCZ to buy and we will be taking credit card orders only at this time.

Please understand we may have less than 10 units available to start, don't go calling now the procedures for payment etc are not in place yet...you will just be turned away.

Shipping to USA and (possibly Canada) Only (I will check Canada) these units have 110V compressors and will not work within a 220V region.

More next week.

Do not PM me, you know as much as I do now.

nice! thanks tony.

does anyone have any updated pricing info? im kinda interested but want to know pricing before anything else.

More next week

Yeah !

Thanks tony for those informations !

Europe rules are so restrictive for this type of product ? :o

i hope canada gets some cyro-z. it's so boring without that kind of phase change stuff in canada. everythings in the usa.

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Originally Posted by Trouffman

Yeah !

Thanks tony for those informations !

Europe rules are so restrictive for this type of product ? :o

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No, it's because the compressors are 110v, and not 220v so won't run off household mains in Europe.

Excellent news, can i post this information on my website?

as long as you realize thats all I know, and I will post here next week yes you can post to your site.

Good news to USA residents :(

But I was scared when I saw the thread title... Some Official Cryo-Z news -- > DELAY AGAIN! :lol:

Only USA and canada lol :) Guess it would be too expensive to have units handtested by engineers if you should supply world-wide eh xD

Nice. Whenever things get rolling and units start becoming more common, I'll probably have enough money to upgrade my computer and Cryo-Z will definitely be something I'll be looking into!

Sorry for being a rotten person...
But I call BS untill its Im proven wrong on the 4th...

Cryo-Z has been the worst marketing-scam stunt in modern IT history IMO... Its a myth that started back in... 2005-2006 ?
I also assume if they're ever to be launched, they'll be way too weak for modern CPU's, or not at the old price mentioned by OCZ...

Once again, sorry for being rotten - Empiri just has its influence..

Ah right...so if its the 5th or 6th, we have been foiled again.

See you next week :)

Okay, I know I will be accused of hatin' on this product, but since the beginnin' I have been doubting this phase system because of its apparent low load capability. I HOPE I am proven wrong. because it would mean affordable phase for the masses. But I don't see it happening. I foresee (again) a large amount of people purchasing this and asking phase builders to mod it for their intel so-and-so processor that overloading the system. That means a regas, a slhx, brazed captube to the suction line, a larger condenser, shorter cap tube, etc. Can only wait to see. They had better be able to hold a qx6700 B3 @ 4000 mhz 24/7 full load or else they will have issues. But thats just me. Please feel free to argue.

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Originally Posted by RyderOCZ

Ah right...so if its the 5th or 6th, we have been foiled again.

See you next week :)

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Sorry Ryder, its not to be rude, but seriously, Cryo-Z has had MANY headlines, yet no profes... OCZ should consider NOT keeping rumours alive, but wait that single month 'till release and then "Now this was worth waiting for, aye?"...

something tells me I won't be getting one of these anytime soon :( 10? ouch thats worse then the wii shortage! I believe OCZ, first almost all companies have set backs, and this isn't exactly their typical product, so a lot had to be done in R&D. Plus I'm sure Fugger would allow AMD or nVidia to have reps here as well, but none of them want to come here and put up with us and the OMGZ where are the new chips! Paper launch! they are never going to come out! they suck!

Thanks OCZ for sticking in there!

Thanks for the update, looking forward to more information. :up:

Awesome, thanks for the news tony, i would love to pick one up once i get some more $ for my rig.

eric tony, can you tell me if i buy it in usa how i can import it to venezuela, it can travel on plane or it should go in ship i can make both happen :)

DO you guys know when you will be taking other form of payments like Money order? It is indeed nice that you guys plan to bring it out but like others here I am also concern about the performance.

Anybody know the heat load these are suppose to handle?

I suspect they are doing cc orders only to keep people happy if it turns out the product doesn't work. Sounds like a pilot program.

Tony:
Thanks for the info.
PS: My Birthday is next week..:wasntme: ...(joking) ;)

To everyone else:
Please be patient ok. The guy said what he knew and lets not bury him and Ryder with questions EVEN if it's not out on the exact day..
I'm just like you,intrigued over this, and just as long, but lets let it happen in it's own time.
Thanks guys.:up:

110V only?... Lame...

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Originally Posted by Ad1tya

110V only?... Lame...

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Why is this lame? English is the standard language so 110 should be the standard voltage.:up:

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Originally Posted by [XC] 2long4u

Why is this lame? English is the standard language so 110 should be the standard voltage.:up:

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Lame because no one but a few of the world can get to use it. Exclusive productions are only ever appreciated by those who can use them and disliked by those who can't. That includes most of the world in this case and even me until I get back to States. :(

Whew! Cant wait to see these puppies get reviewed!

Tony/Ryder, Are these using coming from Sunnyvale? If so, Will there be a possibility of local pick-ups? I can only imagine what it would cost to ship them...

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Originally Posted by KTE

Lame because no one but a few of the world can get to use it. Exclusive productions are only ever appreciated by those who can use them and disliked by those who can't. That includes most of the world in this case and even me until I get back to States. :(

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It looks good, and with the avalability of good watercooling, I doubt they would release it unless it could hande overclocked Quads. Plus no mainstream users would use this, only enthusiast's/overclockers.


You can actually get switches and power boards for any one on 220/230/240v, So it's not impossible to use. But as it's only being sold in America, to bad anyway, unless you have a mate in America. Lol sorry to giving ideas Tony/Ryder and OCZ.

No 220 love... that's a shame.. maybe somewhere down the line they'll get a 220 unit going..

Its really sad though.

I know atleast 10 people in India who were hoping for this to come out.

OCZ, are you listening? :P.. Lol.. I doubt it very much.....

The least they could do is add 220V support. Its not that hard to get good quality converters, though.

Those old vapochill LS seems to be ok to handle 1.7ish vcore load from dual 45nm Intel cpu:)

Hope this one also performs the same or better

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Originally Posted by kevinbo03

Tony/Ryder, Are these using coming from Sunnyvale? If so, Will there be a possibility of local pick-ups? I can only imagine what it would cost to ship them...

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I'm in the Bay Area and would rather burn the gas and pick up, rather have the unit damaged by my local delivery guys or have the unit hurt their backs. :D

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Originally Posted by Mekrel

No, it's because the compressors are 110v, and not 220v so won't run off household mains in Europe.

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http://store.sundancesolar.com/duvoco1122.html

Would that work?

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Originally Posted by [XC] 2long4u

Why is this lame? English is the standard language so 110 should be the standard voltage.:up:

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Yea and change to metric system.:up:

So if English is standard ....

English-UK?
English-USA?
English-Canada?
English-Belize?
English-Carribean?
English-Ireland?
English-Jamaican?
English-Australian?
English-New Zealand?
English-South Africa?
English-Philippines?
English-Trinidad?
English-Zimbabwe?

Sorry but you are 2short4me:rofl:

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Originally Posted by [XC] 2long4u

Why is this lame? English is the standard language so 110 should be the standard voltage.:up:

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110 volt is not every effeciant.

US should change to 230-240 ;)

And English originates from UK, they are 230-240 volt :rofl:

^^ Agreed :yes:

Guys im going to be very honest here, with all the issue we have had getting this unit to market I doubt we will order any more over what we have in stock.

So you may find once they are gone...they are gone.

Things could change though but I doubt it.

awww - i was looking forward to getting one of these but if it looks like 10 units are only going to be available... oh well ill just stick with my watercooling : /

Only 10 units, and not produced after it is gone, can't be considered a product launch or getting them to the market. It was more of to "show" that they made them and to repair OCZ's tainted image because of overhyping the CryoZ's features and especially the PRICE.

OCZ spent so much money on research and development, and marketing - but only produced 10 units. They will probably not get their money back by just selling 10 units. So why would a company do this?? You guys decide.......coz these 10 units are not aimed to produce profit. Isn't producing profit and accumulating wealth a firm's ultimate goal?

In the end, what I am trying to say is - these 10 units do have a hidden agenda. :)

KCNYC,

There are more than 10 units. 10 units is the first batch available. Tony is saying that when all the units we have are gone, then they are gone, but it is a lot more than 10 units.

Speaking of hidden agenda's.......what's yours?

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Originally Posted by Tony

and (possibly Canada) Only (I will check Canada)

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Thank you for the update, I appreciate it.

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Originally Posted by RyderOCZ

KCNYC,

There are more than 10 units. 10 units is the first batch available. Tony is saying that when all the units we have are gone, then they are gone, but it is a lot more than 10 units.

Speaking of hidden agenda's.......what's yours?

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If there is alot more then, just say it. I am not trying to damage your reputation or anything, but that is what I got from the info Tony was giving in the post above - there was ONLY 10 units, and that was the end of the run.

From this thread, what I gathered was - 10 units, and no more. For me that is hardly a product launch. This launch has similarities to the X800 XTPE, although they had way much more units at launch time than 10!

Well I have no hidden agenda, just speaking my mind dude. I am not affiliated with anyone or any other company. Just speaking my mind, so please don't go on the offensive on me. I was there when the CryoZ was shown at the Bellagio Suite, 2 years ago I think. Was one of the first few that took pictures of it. I want to see this product succeed, coz I am also a phase change user and have 2 Mach 2 GTs, and 7 Mach1s at one point in time - and I thought they were :banana::banana::banana::banana:ing expensive! If CryoZ lives up to expectations, then fantastic - mark my words, I will buy one at the price you SAID it would be last time. BTW what is the price range?

Peace...... :)

how about using a 220 to 110v converter?
for the die hard fans it should be possible to run it even in a 220 zone that way, even tho the different hz rate might reduce performance a bit.

too bad its only 10 units... hope to see some results soon

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Originally Posted by [XC] 2long4u

Why is this lame? English is the standard language so 110 should be the standard voltage.:up:

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Typical English eh? :rofl:

220v is a lot more efficient than 110v ;)

Ohh my god here we go with the mis-reading.

There are more than 10 units...a huge amount more.
I said we are testing them by hand, there will be a small amount ready next week and as more are tested more will be released for sale.

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Please understand we may have less than 10 units available to start,

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Now you have to read the end part that says to start

how did you get 10 units from that?

No love for the UK :(

Bah!

Looking forward to reviews........ Hopefully someone that knows what they're doing will get one to test publicly on a variety of chips.

We are not shipping to review sites guys, with the units coming available a few each week or so we thought it best to push them straight to sale.

If needed I can have one tested and I know Ryder is getting one for support purposes.

Is there a plan for a 220-240v version at all on on the cards?

Least something has finaly happend! Fair play i guess

Man folks can't read. Tony you're better off just posting the data on a closed thread on your own site. The whining makes even me sick.

And to your EU guys... you have products we can't buy here, I don't sit around thread crapping on those threads or posting moans on the UK or France/Belgian web sites (only languages I speak).

Give it a rest, it is what it is and future statements will clarify further. Thread makes me grumpy lol.

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Originally Posted by Ugly n Grey

Man folks can't read. Tony you're better off just posting the data on a closed thread on your own site. The whining makes even me sick.

And to your EU guys... you have products we can't buy here, I don't sit around thread crapping on those threads or posting moans on the UK or France/Belgian web sites (only languages I speak).

Give it a rest, it is what it is and future statements will clarify further. Thread makes me grumpy lol.

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Did i moan about a non UK version..erm urm, ioh i wonder etc etc yarder yarder sure ya not born in a bloody barn no i didnt moan i asked a simple friging question kid, learn to read!

I also surported the fact that it's about time a devlopment of these happend and flay play at it, but i say guess as i think the timing is ether way too late or judging by recent event i have been at and seeing people set up too early as a lot of peopl are really not ready for items like this

No 220V version, said it so many times im sick of saying it..sorry man

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Originally Posted by Pete

Did i moan about a non UK version..erm urm, ioh i wonder etc etc yarder yarder sure ya not born in a bloody barn no i didnt moan i asked a simple friging question kid, learn to read!

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Wasn't targeting you Pete, there were some really rude statements by some others who definitely need to grow some manners. Kid? Thank You Very much!

what about converters?
arent there 110>220 converters?
would still be 50hz but better than nothing no?

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Originally Posted by Ugly n Grey

Man folks can't read. Tony you're better off just posting the data on a closed thread on your own site. The whining makes even me sick.

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I'd rather see him post his stuff here to be honest... I agree about the whining part though...

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Originally Posted by Tony

We are not shipping to review sites guys, with the units coming available a few each week or so we thought it best to push them straight to sale.

If needed I can have one tested and I know Ryder is getting one for support purposes.

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Hmmmmmmmmm

My budget won't allow me to purchase an unproven piece of equipment and I'm not going to pay to be a beta tester. I'll wait until a few get out into the wild before I consider this further. My hope is the first few will impress.

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Originally Posted by saaya

what about converters?
arent there 110>220 converters?
would still be 50hz but better than nothing no?

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it would have to be a monster converter, i used 110V site transformers for testing here in the UK so it is possible.

the main issue is we won't be shipping outside North America.

Thinking by the time you have bought a transformer and the unit and paid for shipping you may as well just have a 220V unit built locally

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Originally Posted by HousERaT

Hmmmmmmmmm

My budget won't allow me to purchase an unproven piece of equipment and I'm not going to pay to be a beta tester. I'll wait until a few get out into the wild before I consider this further. My hope is the first few will impress.

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Well thats fair comment, I know we have tested QX6850's with it at 4.5GHZ+, hard to know CPU temps as coretemp stops at 9C though ;)

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Originally Posted by NightCrawler™

I'd rather see him post his stuff here to be honest... I agree about the whining part though...

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We can and will be releasing news on the OCZforum in future, its getting harder to post news here of late.

Thanks for the update. I anxiously look forward to the results. The whiners you need not worry about--the people with cash in hand.........they might be a bit more important ;)

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Originally Posted by Tony

We can and will be releasing news on the OCZforum in future, its getting harder to post news here of late.

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noOOO don't go Tony!!!

Stop whinging people lol.

Stops at 9 degrees with a QX6850's at 4.5ghz+.

So if it's below 9c and I was in America, I would be sold :)

Look at the size and easy set up as opposed to making a phase change, or even have a big as clumsy box with big piping and wrapped in insulation next to your computer.

Looks ideal for 24/7 use with some minor insulation.

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I'm sorry, but this is really poor from OCZ. Good companies that are making claims, spreading news and interest about future products actually deliver on what they say.

OCZ say, "oh we had so many problems getting this to market so were only selling in the US and once our initial stock is gone, thats it". Well, Asetek never had any problems shipping to countries other than the US. They didnt create a storm in the news and then give out excuses that competitors dont seem to suffer from.

A classic poor business tactic that IBM became famous for was for announcing machines with amazing features at a great price, and then never releasing them. The stalled purchases to competitor products helped their position but certainly didnt help the brand recognition or respect.

lol. Jeeze guys I was just kidding. I love how many people responded to my post! :rotf:

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Originally Posted by Nullack

I'm sorry, but this is really poor from OCZ. Good companies that are making claims, spreading news and interest about future products actually deliver on what they say.

OCZ say, "oh we had so many problems getting this to market so were only selling in the US and once our initial stock is gone, thats it". Well, Asetek never had any problems shipping to countries other than the US. They didnt create a storm in the news and then give out excuses that competitors dont seem to suffer from.

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So what is the issue here. The initial stock won't be enough to supply all those who might be interested in the purchase of one? Although I don't remember Tony saying how many units that consisted of. Could be 10 or 1000 for all anyone knows. Or is it the availability being constrained to the U.S. and you're whining because you feel left out?

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v., whined, whin·ing, whines.

v.intr.

1. To utter a plaintive, high-pitched, protracted sound, as in pain, fear, supplication, or complaint.
2. To complain or protest in a childish fashion.
3. To produce a sustained noise of relatively high pitch: jet engines whining.

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Originally Posted by Tony

We can and will be releasing news on the OCZforum in future, its getting harder to post news here of late.

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If it is going to be like that then it's a said day for the XS community..
A lot of people do appreciate OCZ reps coming here and give us prime news on your products.. don't let a few "I always know it better", "I have too much money to spend" naturally born whiners take that away from this community..

I for one enjoy OCZ reps being here and they've thought me a lot ever since.. I dislike those who feel the need to thread crap every chance they get.. get a life and respect other people opinions..

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Originally Posted by NightCrawler™

If it is going to be like that then it's a said day for the XS community..
A lot of people do appreciate OCZ reps coming here and give us prime news on your products.. don't let a few "I always know it better", "I have too much money to spend" naturally born whiners take that away from this community..

I for one enjoy OCZ reps being here and they've thought me a lot ever since.. I dislike those who feel the need to thread crap every chance they get.. get a life and respect other people opinions...

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Praz, pull your head in......

OCZ released details of a product that was less expensive and had better features than competitors. They consistenly failed to meet expected delivery targets and have after a long time now come up with a very limited distribution strategy that is alien to how OCZ has done business in the past.

Yes I'm dissapointed, but it is not childish compaining for consumers to express dissapointment over how OCZ have missed the ball on this product. Especially when competitors have delievered in the market - albeit at a fair greater price.

This is a classic tactic that famously was used by IBM where they used it to threaten competitors in the marketplace with, and its one that is proven to do damage to consumer sentiment.

As a consumer of OCZ products I am entitled to my opinion, you don't have to agree.

I can't wait to get my hands on one for sure ... I'm thinking Foxconn MARS - or ASUS Commando - meets my E6850 and pump it up with some AxeRAM or TEAM:up: ;)

Imo there's a difference between stating your opinion and tearing someone a new one..

I noticed lately that a lot of users only visit a thread to post crap, their fanboyism and what not..
I lost count on the amount of threads of fanboys duelling it out, statements like "that's crap" "too restrictive" "that's never going to work" "vaporware" and what not...

I agree with the fact OCZ dropped a bit with the Cryo-Z.. but every single company has dropped that ball at least once.. so what, things happen.
It's just stupid to tear a company a new one over it and that's what has been happening here..
Maybe it's because there are OCZ reps active here and it's easier to [censored] against them... I'd hate to see the replies if an AMD rep was active here just after the Phenom launch..

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Originally Posted by Tony

We can and will be releasing news on the OCZforum in future, its getting harder to post news here of late.

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I've subscribed to the 'OCZ Hot Deals and Special Offers" forum section. Too bad there is only a daily and weekly e-mail notifications options, since 'instant' notification would be nice if the units are going to trickle out due to the hand testing involved. Hopefully that'll help me avoid the elbows that will be flying when these units release. :D

How do we purchase them? will they be released to retailers, or will we have to buy direct?


I'll buy one, irregardless of any reports on how it performs...let's see how honest people are when submitting results!


Tony, I apologiz on behlf of my fellow forum members for thier inappropriate attitude. Quite a few of us here appreciate your presence here and the info you provide...so thanks! There's always gonna be haters, but thankfully there's an ignore option!

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Originally Posted by cadaveca

Tony, I apologiz on behlf of my fellow forum members for thier inappropriate attitude. Quite a few of us here appreciate your presence here and the info you provide...so thanks! There's always gonna be haters, but thankfully there's an ignore option!

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:clap: :up: well said

tony ignore the :banana::banana::banana::banana::banana:ing it's people who are jealous of stuff they want but probably won't be able to have.

I for one am ecited about the prospect of this. I of course can not afford such a device(I am a college student and I don't want to dip out of my savings) but it will be interesting watching others go crazy with this.

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Originally Posted by cadaveca

Quite a few of us here appreciate your presence here and the info you provide...so thanks! There's always gonna be haters, but thankfully there's an ignore option!

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I too appreciate that OCZ discusses and supports their products like they do.

Negative feedback is certainly not being a "hater" and I think that sort of extremist labelling is best avoided.

As Nightcrawler has said, they havent dropped the ball too often and I guess that adds to my dissapointment on this product, given I had a real sense of it being delivered. Still, I do have negative feedback about the way OCZ managed this and I hope its the last time they do so.

I think everyone got a point Tony wanted to deliver...