Geforce 9600 GT coming soon!

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12-22-2007, 01:03 AM
..::ABSOLUT::..

Geforce 9600 GT coming soon!

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o.../ngf9600gt.jpg

We have got some news from Nvidia about the next gen. mainstream card,the 9600GT.

The first gen. Directx 10 Gpus,the G80,G84 and G86 will have finished their EOL process in February and the production will be stopped.

The 9600GT will be produced in 65nm process and is based on the ''D9P'' Gpu.It's expected to be announced in mid-February.
The card will be clocked at 500mhz/2000mhz (Gpu/Ram),and is expected to have 96 SP units and a 256bit wide memory bus.This mainstream card will have only one SLI connector,so it won't be supporting Triple-SLI.

It is also said that 9600GT will be pin compatible with the current 8800GT,this means the same PCB used with 8800GT can also be used with the 9600GT.This lowers production costs.

The performance of 9600GT will be somewhere between 8800GT and HD 3850.

The high end cards of the Geforce 9 series using the G100 Gpu (9800GTX) are expected to be announced in late March or early April.
12-22-2007, 01:06 AM
Kunaak

I wish they would hurry up with these new cards...

seems to have been forever since I had a reason to upgrade my 8800GTX.
yet theres begining to be a few games out there, I can hardly play...
its definatly time for a new card.
12-22-2007, 01:07 AM
hecktic

this sounds very close to rumors on the net... where is your source?

also the 9800GTX based on G100 GPU is going to be per rumors either a GX2 style card with 256bit X 2 or a single PCB with 512bit bus again per the rumors.

So whats your source?
12-22-2007, 01:16 AM
..::ABSOLUT::..

Quote:

Originally Posted by hecktic

this sounds very close to rumors on the net... where is your source?

also the 9800GTX based on G100 GPU is going to be per rumors either a GX2 style card with 256bit X 2 or a single PCB with 512bit bus again per the rumors.

So whats your source?

A news editor in another forum who has connections to Nvidia is my source:D
12-22-2007, 01:21 AM
cky2k6

hmm, whats better, ati 9600xt or nvidia 9600gt, lawl, personally can't wait for those questions... seriously though, quite a jump from the misery of g84.
12-22-2007, 01:57 AM
..::ABSOLUT::..

With a bit Ocing it might be possible to catch up the 8800GT.
12-22-2007, 02:09 AM
xlink

sounds liek GeForce 9 is nothing more than a die shrink and maybe a few more shaders.

BULLSHIII...

well we know we're screwed(compaatively).
unless 9800/9900 is 192SPs, 512bit and scales to around 800mhz core with ease.
12-22-2007, 02:17 AM
..::ABSOLUT::..

Quote:

Originally Posted by xlink

sounds liek GeForce 9 is nothing more than a die shrink and maybe a few more shaders.

BULLSHIII...

well we know we're screwed(compaatively).
unless 9800/9900 is 192SPs, 512bit and scales to around 800mhz core with ease.

Not exactly right.Nvidia is talking about ''Second generation Unified Shader architecture''

There will be some architectural improvements in Geforce 9.
12-22-2007, 02:22 AM
hecktic

hmmm something doesnt sound right here...
12-22-2007, 02:33 AM
Lightman

Quote:

Originally Posted by cky2k6

hmm, whats better, ati 9600xt or nvidia 9600gt, lawl, personally can't wait for those questions... seriously though, quite a jump from the misery of g84.

:rofl:

I think 9600XT is using less power :up:
12-22-2007, 02:43 AM
RAMMAN

good to know it has nothing on my card :D
12-22-2007, 02:51 AM
eric66

'The performance of 9600GT will be somewhere between 8800GT and HD 3850' like 3870 :) who needs this card anyway nvidia is too late for the party
12-22-2007, 02:59 AM
squilliam

That card seems hardly worth it.
It wouldn't be worth it unless it was a $150 card.
12-22-2007, 03:16 AM
DeLeO

Quote:

Originally Posted by eric66

'The performance of 9600GT will be somewhere between 8800GT and HD 3850' like 3870 :) who needs this card anyway nvidia is too late for the party

It'll be an mid range card.So it'll got ans midrange's card price. It's normal that midrange next gen cards are close to the level of olg gen high range cards :yepp:
12-22-2007, 03:30 AM
xlink

Quote:

Originally Posted by ..::ABSOLUT::..

Not exactly right.Nvidia is talking about ''Second generation Unified Shader architecture''

There will be some architectural improvements in Geforce 9.

and yet this will be the second generation in a row where the midrange of cards is solidly beat by the previous generations highend cards.

x1950XT beat the 8600GTS by over 30%
and it's looking liek the 8800GTS will beat the 9600 by over 30% as well.

not the type of scenario where the 7600GT beats the 6800U overall.
12-22-2007, 03:56 AM
realsmasher

look the huge pcb of 8800gt and all the caps and so on.

You really think a mid-range card will be like that ?

Of course it can be, but i doubt it.

Quote:

The card will be clocked at 500mhz/2000mhz (Gpu/Ram),and is expected to have 96 SP units and a 256bit wide memory bus
...
The performance of 9600GT will be somewhere between 8800GT and HD 3850

so either the performance per clock was raised by a enormous amount or this is bull:banana::banana::banana::banana:.

500mhz and 96sp vs 600mhz and 112sp makes the 8800gt like 40% faster. But 8800gt is NOT 40% faster then 3850.
12-22-2007, 04:18 AM
Syn.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ..::ABSOLUT::..

The performance of 9600GT will be somewhere between 8800GT and HD 3850.

That card is already out its called 3870.
12-22-2007, 04:35 AM
doompc

I bet they got it wrong and the card will have 128 bit mem bus, pin compatible with the 8600GT.
~ $100 96 SPs :up:
12-22-2007, 05:12 AM
realsmasher

would be much more believeable.
12-22-2007, 05:22 AM
emoners

so which one's gonna come first, 9600 or 9800???
12-22-2007, 05:32 AM
Fr3ak

So far Nvidia has always thrown the highend models to the market first. Mainstream was always out later, so I have my doubts about this source. Not saying it's completely bs, but things may be different.

One thing is wrong for sure: The memory speed is surely not 2000 MHz, because that would mean DDR4000 ;) The correct value should be 1000 MHz or DDR2000, but not 2000 MHz.
12-22-2007, 05:39 AM
..::ABSOLUT::..

Quote:

Originally Posted by xlink

and yet this will be the second generation in a row where the midrange of cards is solidly beat by the previous generations highend cards.

x1950XT beat the 8600GTS by over 30%
and it's looking liek the 8800GTS will beat the 9600 by over 30% as well.

not the type of scenario where the 7600GT beats the 6800U overall.

Yeah,unfortunately you are right.:(

The 7600GT was a legendary card...

Quote:

Originally Posted by emoners

so which one's gonna come first, 9600 or 9800???

Nvidia is playing a different game this time and will anounce the new gen. midrange card before the highends.

If nothing goes wrong 9600GT will come out in mid-February,but 9800GTX in late March or early April.

But I have my doubts about this source...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fr3ak

So far Nvidia has always thrown the highend models to the market first. Mainstream was always out later, so I have my doubts about this source. Not saying it's completely bs, but things may be different.

One thing is wrong for sure: The memory speed is surely not 2000 MHz, because that would mean DDR4000 ;) The correct value should be 1000 MHz or DDR2000, but not 2000 MHz.

I am not sure about the source too.It's not officially coming from Nvidia.

The memory speed should be 1000mhz (DDR2000 effectively),thanks for the correction.
12-22-2007, 06:03 AM
3NZ0

96SP, 256 bit bus, low clocks (happy oc times) and an sli connector on a mid range card.

:D:D

Finally midrange cards get some features that fit together, these will be fantastic cards but the 9800 will be immense if these are the specs of the mid-mid range. :D
12-22-2007, 06:39 AM
Omar

Thanks very much
Do you know is't DX10 or DX10.1 ?
I wish it would be priced @180$ w/512MB DDR3
12-22-2007, 06:49 AM
expreview

info update,so sorry for the mistake

Update: SP number changed and PCB/Memory design confirm, sorry for the mistake.

Source also tells some specs of the nex-gen GPU D9P. The core clocks at 500MHz while memory at 2000MHz, GPU will have 64SP (8800GS will be 96SP 192bit 384MB). It is a main-stream product and only have one SLI connector so it can not support 3-Way SLI.

We just confirm that GeForce 9600 GT use P545 PCB design (8800GT use P393 PCB design), and the memory will be 256bit 512MB, still don’t know support DX10.1 or not .
12-22-2007, 07:47 AM
..::ABSOLUT::..

Quote:

Originally Posted by expreview

Update: SP number changed and PCB/Memory design confirm, sorry for the mistake.

Source also tells some specs of the nex-gen GPU D9P. The core clocks at 500MHz while memory at 2000MHz, GPU will have 64SP (8800GS will be 96SP 192bit 384MB). It is a main-stream product and only have one SLI connector so it can not support 3-Way SLI.

We just confirm that GeForce 9600 GT use P545 PCB design (8800GT use P393 PCB design), and the memory will be 256bit 512MB, still don’t know support DX10.1 or not .

Only 64 SP?

And what the hell is a 8800GS?:confused:
12-22-2007, 08:24 AM
eric66

new card probably i think it will between 3870 and 8800gt :rofl: nvidia is filling spaces
12-22-2007, 09:42 AM
cky2k6

Quote:

Originally Posted by eric66

new card probably i think it will between 3870 and 8800gt :rofl: nvidia is filling spaces

no, the 8800gs specs are lower than the original 9600gt specs... looks like this gt will be way lower than even a 3850, they better price it accordingly. and why the heck does the higher end card have less memory and a narrower bus?
12-22-2007, 10:12 AM
Morais

Quote:

Originally Posted by ..::ABSOLUT::..

The performance of 9600GT will be somewhere between 8800GT and HD 3850.

:slobber: My next card for sure! Just hope it comes under the $150 tag...
12-22-2007, 10:48 AM
Nuker_

Good, now give us some data on the 9800GTX :)
12-22-2007, 10:57 AM
Chewbenator

Give me an 8800GT for under 200 and I will bite. I hope that the new high range isn't outrageously priced so that it will bring down the Gt's price. But, with Nvidia's previous prices ie. 8800 series before the GT, i don't think that will be the case. Then again ATI is putting out some good products which is finally putting pressure on Nvidia, will be interesting come February.
12-22-2007, 11:05 AM
Envydia007

we need more than 128SP, anything below that is just a pos to me.
12-22-2007, 11:19 AM
Shintai

Quote:

Originally Posted by Envydia007

we need more than 128SP, anything below that is just a pos to me.

That largely depends on the capabilities of the SPs. 3870 only have 64SP aswell. Even just 96 of the same type of SPs would be quite nice.
12-22-2007, 11:44 AM
Nicksterr

I'm starting to really dislike nvidia. There's a ton of games out right now that even the most extravagant setups can't play maxed. They keep dragging out deadlines and new cards. We need a new, more powerful card, NOW!
12-22-2007, 12:03 PM
Zytek_Fan

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nicksterr

I'm starting to really dislike nvidia. There's a ton of games out right now that even the most extravagant setups can't play maxed. They keep dragging out deadlines and new cards. We need a new, more powerful card, NOW!

D9x could be a nice leap in performance, but most likely not. It'll prolly be just a small improvement...
12-22-2007, 12:18 PM
[XC] hipno650

this is what i think the 9600gt should be:
-128 shadders (the fancy new ones)
-1500mhz shadder clock
-550mhz core
-512MB GDDR3
-256bit
-2000mhz mem (effective)
-65NM
-$100-$150 price:D
-Tri SLI ready
-single slot cooler

that would be one heck of a card for the price!!! but the only thing we can do now is wait for the new cards to come out.
12-22-2007, 01:10 PM
Zytek_Fan

Quote:

Originally Posted by mascaras

maybe the performance should be under the 8800GT 256mb

regards

Hmmm. If so, then it got me to think, what if Crysis isn't just a hardware hog, it's badly optimized? :nuts:
12-22-2007, 01:18 PM
man_bear_pig

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zytek_Fan

Hmmm. If so, then it got me to think, what if Crysis isn't just a hardware hog, it's badly optimized? :nuts:

I guess we will see if this delayed patch makes that statement true. I so I may grab another 8800gt.

1st post... YEA!
12-22-2007, 01:36 PM
ExodusC

Hmm... I think I'll wait for a 9800GT/S/X. If the 9600GT performs around 8800GT levels, then I can't wait to see the high end offerings.
12-22-2007, 02:04 PM
WRC

c'mon nvidia we want to play crysis at max settings, how long will we have to wait?!
12-22-2007, 02:15 PM
MuffinFlavored

Quote:

Originally Posted by eric66

'The performance of 9600GT will be somewhere between 8800GT and HD 3850' like 3870 :) who needs this card anyway nvidia is too late for the party

nVIDIA is the party.
I want to see the 9800GTX.
45nm (get processors and GPU to the same size), 192 shaders, 1GB 2GHz+ GDDR5, 512-bit.

Take that, Crysis.
12-22-2007, 03:10 PM
XS Janus

^ +1

Anything less and I'm not moving to it :D

But I understand if they chhose to go with this card first.
It will hurt DAAMIT most if they go for this market first and so strongly.
12-22-2007, 03:19 PM
b1lk1

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zytek_Fan

Hmmm. If so, then it got me to think, what if Crysis isn't just a hardware hog, it's badly optimized? :nuts:

Crysis is probably the result of one the poorest attempt at optimization ever seen in a retail game. Only the Need For Speed series is THE worst possible attempt at optimization. Time to start slowing down hardware releases and time for these codies to start doing their jobs.
12-22-2007, 03:24 PM
STEvil

Nah, "DiRT" is worse than NFS.
12-22-2007, 03:27 PM
Cold Fussion

Quote:

Originally Posted by b1lk1

Crysis is probably the result of one the poorest attempt at optimization ever seen in a retail game. Only the Need For Speed series is THE worst possible attempt at optimization. Time to start slowing down hardware releases and time for these codies to start doing their jobs.

Crysis runs super well considering what the graphics card is doing...
12-22-2007, 03:29 PM
RAW-Raptor22

Woot! The first Nvidia midrange card that does not inherit the 6600GT PCB and it respective 128bit bus! (unlike the 8600 and 7600)
12-22-2007, 03:48 PM
GripS

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kunaak

I wish they would hurry up with these new cards...

seems to have been forever since I had a reason to upgrade my 8800GTX.
yet theres begining to be a few games out there, I can hardly play...
its definatly time for a new card.

c'mon now. What game out there can you "hardly play" with an 8800TGTX? You may not be able to play them at insane resolutions with AA and AF but surely you can still play them at more modest settings.
12-22-2007, 04:58 PM
betoh

Quote:

Originally Posted by ..::ABSOLUT::..

Yeah,unfortunately you are right.:(

The 7600GT was a legendary card...

It still is to me :p:

And I also think we need to see a new high end card already... its been a while.
12-22-2007, 05:04 PM
Zytek_Fan

Quote:

Originally Posted by STEvil

Nah, "DiRT" is worse than NFS.

Yep. :shakes:
12-22-2007, 05:23 PM
MuffinFlavored

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zytek_Fan

Yep. :shakes:

ProStreet for the PC sucks.
12-22-2007, 05:40 PM
Afterburner

Quote:

ProStreet for the PC sucks.

Seems fine to me esp in Career mode due to better vehicle handling. Also it seems to be threaded as it keeps both the cores on my slightly o/c E6600 @ 100% usage sustained... :)

No hiccups or freezes on a 7800GT here.... :)
12-22-2007, 07:44 PM
[XC] gomeler

hmph, 9600GT would kick ass with 96SP and a $192 price tag. Throw in a 192(96*2) bit memory interface and 368mb(96*4) of GDDR4 and call it a day. Hell, change the name to "Super 96" for all the times 96 appears in it's stats. Should score 9696 3DMarks in 3D08 and there would be 9,696 available on launch day and that amount for every day after. Enough said, Nvidia, generate said product and call it the Super 96GT, Gomeler Edition.
12-22-2007, 09:18 PM
grimREEFER

well, i picked up an 8600gt for a little over a $100, so it would be amazing if i could get what is essentially a hd3870 for that price
12-22-2007, 09:30 PM
Dawgdoc

Quote:

Originally Posted by grimREEFER

well, i picked up an 8600gt for a little over a $100, so it would be amazing if i could get what is essentially a hd3870 for that price

I got my 8600 GT for.....I cant recall.....$140ish or so?? Been a few months....

But you get what you pay for. The 8600 GT is a sad, weak card IMHO.

Its not crap dont get me wrong, but as said....u get what you pay for....
12-23-2007, 04:04 AM
CoolZone

they said that they would launch the top performance cards at first I remember and THEN the midrange cards in summer 2008.They switch again now?Not again!!!
Intel delays Yorkfield.Nvidia delays 9800GTX.Are they completely sane?
12-23-2007, 04:30 AM
smsmasters

When will we see an nvidia card with:

2GHz Core
2GB RAM @ 4GHz
4GHz Shaders
512 Streaming Processors?

I want to play crysis at 2560x1600 16xAA 16xAF all maxed at 100fps. :D
12-23-2007, 05:48 AM
Warboy

Quote:

Originally Posted by b1lk1

Crysis is probably the result of one the poorest attempt at optimization ever seen in a retail game. Only the Need For Speed series is THE worst possible attempt at optimization. Time to start slowing down hardware releases and time for these codies to start doing their jobs.

You must have No idea what your talking about.

Crysis is what we in the field of game design call "Future-Proof" meaning the engine can last for many years. It supports a Very Super high res texture in a game known-to-date. And The Phys engine is very good too.

I was in Crysis Multiplayer beta very early, and I could say without a doubt that it has gotten alot of Optimization. In the beginning of the beta. GTX/Ultras in DX9 would only get 15FPS max, no matter med-high settings or what res the screen was set to. Now in the Retail we are seeing 50FPS Max'ish in Very High on DX9, and 25-35 FPS On Very High DX10. So before you slam on Crysis saying it has "worst possible attempt at Optimization", You need to stop, Look at how Optimization it is now, Compared to before, And how useful it can be in 1-2 years game engine wise.

also, NFS:PS has a new system EA hasn't gotten much time in, aka, The Damage system, Other then that, being the only part thats not really optimized. The rest is really good, I get 70-90 FPS on all max settings. Thats better then crysis, but NFS:PS isn't DX10.

Anyways, Back on topic.

I can't wait for the G9800GTX ^_^
12-23-2007, 11:25 AM
Bl4ck^!

looks like the 8800GT chips (G92) will be cut from original 128sp (112sp in 8800GT ) to 96 witch will put us with a card almost like 8800GTS (g80) to mainstream.
Interesting thing to see when mainstream receives that kind of computational power , or should i write "low - end " ? 0_o
12-23-2007, 11:37 AM
w0mbat

@Bl4ck^!: 1st: 9600GT has 64SP and not 96SP and 2nd: 9600GT doesnt use the G92.
12-23-2007, 11:43 AM
Bl4ck^!

Quote:

Originally Posted by w0mbat

@Bl4ck^!: 1st: 9600GT has 64SP and not 96SP and 2nd: 9600GT doesnt use the G92.

hmm first post in this topic says 96 ;] , it is a reasonable figure man : ] , well with G92 chip they can make from 128 to 112 to 96 to 64 (less then 64 would not be reasonable )
Do you really think that they would make a completely new chip and not take what they have and brand them as new ;] ? It is very likely that this is a redesign of the G92 possibly with Dx10.1 implementation. But as always time will tell . 64SP is not that much imho , i would better see some 96+ SP in mainstream .
Merry X'Mas :] :up:
12-23-2007, 02:42 PM
realsmasher

Quote:

Originally Posted by Warboy

It supports a Very Super high res texture in a game known-to-date

so why do textures look like crap ?

i got them on max but its all blurry stuff.

Oblivion with texture addon looks MUCH better in terms of texture, no question.
12-23-2007, 03:00 PM
DTU_XaVier

Quote:

Originally Posted by realsmasher

so why do textures look like crap ?

i got them on max but its all blurry stuff.

Oblivion with texture addon looks MUCH better in terms of texture, no question.

I agree that some of the mountain and rock textures are a bit blurry, but what about road-textures, gravel, your suit, weapon-models, and a lot of the other enviroment-textures... Crysis' textures are by no means blurry, get off it...
Also, what he means is that Crysis in actuality supports VERY high res textures, they're simply not unlocked in the current version...

BEst Regards :toast:
12-23-2007, 03:07 PM
Warboy

Quote:

Originally Posted by realsmasher

so why do textures look like crap ?

i got them on max but its all blurry stuff.

Oblivion with texture addon looks MUCH better in terms of texture, no question.

Looks great to me, There are some glitches in current drivers still. and what card are you pushing?

Anyways, If we're going to discuss crysis, we could open a different thread.

These is the 9600GT thread after all.
12-23-2007, 03:40 PM
XS2K

There were some problems with the mountain textures which were running normal only on a 64bit system first,I saw this fixed in the latest Nvidia driver,dunno about ATi.
YOu can fix this manualy by setting a new view xy distance,check crysis guide from crysis forums.
http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/1047/interesantci6.jpg
12-23-2007, 06:21 PM
fireice2

Still the 9600GT won't break the hearts of those who have the 8800 series cards. :D

They better be at the $150 price tag since the prices of the 8800GT, HD3870 are falling as well. :D
12-23-2007, 06:44 PM
RAW-Raptor22

Quote:

Originally Posted by fireice2

Still the 9600GT won't break the hearts of those who have the 8800 series cards. :D

They better be at the $150 price tag since the prices of the 8800GT, HD3870 are falling as well. :D

The 3870 is a great deal... but the 8800GT is still expensive, good thing I got mine free in a step-up from my GTS...
12-23-2007, 06:58 PM
[XC] hipno650

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raptor22

The 3870 is a great deal... but the 8800GT is still expensive, good thing I got mine free in a step-up from my GTS...

expensive? heck i can find more than 3 different cards for under 250 CAD but 3870's are still 240 CAD for those prices the 8800gt is a way better deal in my books
12-24-2007, 01:53 AM
realsmasher

Quote:

Originally Posted by DTU_XaVier

but what about road-textures, gravel ... and a lot of the other enviroment-textures...

most of this "ground" stuff only gets nice if i activate parallax(normally not available for my card, must use console)

But when i do it, fps breakes down from around 25 to like ~8 :rolleyes:

So yeah, i can't have nice textures in crysis, in other games no problem even WITH parallax.

Maybe it gets better with 3870x2 but i really doubt it.
12-24-2007, 02:17 AM
naokaji

sure.. crysis looks good on a very expensive top end system with all options turned up...

but cod4 proofs that you dont need to limit a game to the very high end computers to make a good game.

on the other side, its always good to have games like crysis, because its finally something that actually puts all that power we have to use and it gives a reason to upgrade...

the biggest problem i have with crysis is that i run out of ammo because i cant stop shooting the trees:rofl:

as for the 9600GT...

i just hope it will perform good, not like 8600 and 2600 cards which are crap if it comes to performance...

having a decent midrange card from the start is always good... it sucked with 8x00 from nvidia that they waited like a year to release a good midrange product (8800GT. because 8600 ones dont even qualify as midrange)
12-24-2007, 02:58 AM
RAW-Raptor22

Quote:

Originally Posted by naokaji

sure.. crysis looks good on a very expensive top end system with all options turned up...

but cod4 proofs that you dont need to limit a game to the very high end computers to make a good game.

on the other side, its always good to have games like crysis, because its finally something that actually puts all that power we have to use and it gives a reason to upgrade...

the biggest problem i have with crysis is that i run out of ammo because i cant stop shooting the trees:rofl:

as for the 9600GT...

i just hope it will perform good, not like 8600 and 2600 cards which are crap if it comes to performance...

having a decent midrange card from the start is always good... it sucked with 8x00 from nvidia that they waited like a year to release a good midrange product (8800GT. because 8600 ones dont even qualify as midrange)

They dont qualify as midrange because the 8600GT inherits the same PCB used for the 6600GT and 7600GT that also means it inherits the 6600GTs 128bit bus... which may have worked fine for 2004s midrange monster, but not today....
12-24-2007, 04:36 AM
XS2K

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Quote:

Originally Posted by realsmasher

most of this "ground" stuff only gets nice if i activate parallax(normally not available for my card, must use console)

But when i do it, fps breakes down from around 25 to like ~8 :rolleyes:

So yeah, i can't have nice textures in crysis, in other games no problem even WITH parallax.

Maybe it gets better with 3870x2 but i really doubt it.

That's a HUGE drop in FPS,normally if you activate parralax you get ~1-2 drop in FPS....
Even on my old ATi X1950PRO i wouldn't get more than a 2FPS drop....
12-24-2007, 07:44 AM
realsmasher

there are 3 versions of parallax.

first is without any and you get it, when you set shaders to "middle" in options.

second is like this screenshot on the right side and is useless, as it looks in fact nearly just like without any.

third is like the left pic, but cannot be used with shaders on "middle", it must be on high.

That's why i have so huge performance drop, as normaly i use middle shaders, but with real parallax i have to use high.

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