Lian Li PC 343b - 2 Loops

Hi guys,

I also went to have beautiful looking Case with enough room to place Hardware and water cooling inside. I wanted to have the two DDC pumps as silent as possible and 2 Triple Rads mounted inside. some Stealth-mod for DVD and LCD etc.

First I took all out and polished the bottom. But now just let us see pics. They say more than a thousand words.

Many thanks to the other 343b-owners who gave me inspiration for this built.

http://www.lifepatcher.com/pc/ll/logo.jpg

http://www.lifepatcher.com/pc/ll/front100.jpg

Pretty, beautiful, awesome.... whatever! This case is really one of the best.

http://www.lifepatcher.com/pc/ll/rs100.jpg
http://www.lifepatcher.com/pc/ll/klick.jpg
http://www.lifepatcher.com/pc/ll/front110.jpg
http://www.lifepatcher.com/pc/ll/nt.jpg

Lots of space to mount and hide stuff.

http://www.lifepatcher.com/pc/ll/hws100.jpg
http://www.lifepatcher.com/pc/ll/wks100.jpg
http://www.lifepatcher.com/pc/ll/tray-top.jpg

Alll the stuff, that came with the case.

http://www.lifepatcher.com/pc/ll/zubeh.jpg

I bought a panel with window, because I know, that the windows will come very much later. I need to have an idea haw the windows should look like. For the meanwhile I have this bought panel then.

http://www.lifepatcher.com/pc/ll/zubeh110.jpg

http://www.lifepatcher.com/pc/ll/zubeh111.jpg

http://www.lifepatcher.com/pc/ll/zubeh112.jpg

A little test, if it all fits in there.

http://www.lifepatcher.com/pc/ll/blendentest1.jpg

http://www.lifepatcher.com/pc/ll/blendentest2.jpg

http://www.lifepatcher.com/pc/ll/nietenex.jpg

The bottom should be polished, but without sanding, there is no possibility.

http://www.lifepatcher.com/pc/ll/vorpolish.jpg

1200 wet sand:

http://www.lifepatcher.com/pc/ll/polish1.jpg

http://www.lifepatcher.com/pc/ll/polish2.jpg

http://www.lifepatcher.com/pc/ll/polishnachher.jpg

Looks better than without sanding!


So I decided to get a better metal polish and 2000 wet sand later.


Here I needed to cut out these metal plates according to the mount of the rad close to the front.

http://www.lifepatcher.com/pc/ll/blendenmod1.jpg

http://www.lifepatcher.com/pc/ll/blendenmod2.jpg

I cut a bigger hole out of the mainboard-tray. Maybe this will be necessary room for tubing and cables later.

http://www.lifepatcher.com/pc/ll/tray.jpg

Here comes the final polish:

http://www.lifepatcher.com/pc/ll/polishneuvorher.jpg

...polished with the metal polish.

http://www.lifepatcher.com/pc/ll/polishneu1.jpg

Nice Result I guess. Twice with 2000 wet sand.

http://www.lifepatcher.com/pc/ll/200er.jpg

Once again with the metal polish and Autosol chrome finish:

http://www.lifepatcher.com/pc/ll/polishneu2.jpg

http://www.lifepatcher.com/pc/ll/polishneu3.jpg

http://www.lifepatcher.com/pc/ll/polishneu4.jpg

http://www.lifepatcher.com/pc/ll/polishneu5.jpg

So now I started with the pump-tray.

http://www.lifepatcher.com/pc/ll/pe10.jpg

http://www.lifepatcher.com/pc/ll/pe11.jpg

http://www.lifepatcher.com/pc/ll/pe12.jpg

http://www.lifepatcher.com/pc/ll/pe13.jpg

These pump holders will be mounted on the tray.
For the tray I took the part I cut out of the mainboard tray.
It is perfect for am mount. to the backside of the mainboard tray.

http://www.lifepatcher.com/pc/ll/pe15.jpg

Who knows the guys from mod my machine? www.modmymachine.com
There is a guy called shoggy. He created that Sandwich.
Lots of guys in germany make their own sandwiches now.

http://www.lifepatcher.com/pc/ll/pe16.jpg
http://www.lifepatcher.com/pc/ll/pe17.jpg

I coloured the orange with a black water resistant colour.

http://www.lifepatcher.com/pc/ll/pe18.jpg

That is, what it looks like, when it is together. It swallows all the noise. :)

I call this Shoggy Sandwich the "Peebee Laing-Dual-Edition".

http://www.lifepatcher.com/pc/ll/pe19.jpg
http://www.lifepatcher.com/pc/ll/pe20.jpg

The orande rubber sponge is fixed to the black material with hot melt adhesive, or whatever you call that :D

http://www.lifepatcher.com/pc/ll/pe22.jpg

http://www.lifepatcher.com/pc/ll/pe21.jpg

http://www.lifepatcher.com/pc/ll/pe23.jpg

So that is all for the first now. I will update, if I have new stuff for this thread. ;)

It wears your arms out, eh?
Very rewarding once its at a mirror polish though and gives you bragging rights over all the guys who gave up half way.:ROTF:

Keep going!:clap:

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-yonton228/timmy

Thank you guys.

It took me 2 days investing about 3-4 hours all together. But you are right. after that your arms feel really heavy and it makes tired.

I think that this result is very nice. Before my hardware goes in, I will polish it a last time. But no sanding anymore.

Next stuff to do is creating my Rad-constructs inside of the case. Well the one in the 5.25 bay is no problem at all. But the other one under the removeable top panel will be a little bit more work. I think I will replace the top panel with mesh.

How I love 343s and the builds that accompany them :up:

Also, love the pump tray and polishing work, your elbow must hurt :p

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It wears your arms out, eh?
Very rewarding once its at a mirror polish though and gives you bragging rights over all the guys who gave up half way.:ROTF:

Keep going!:clap:

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tell me about it lol its worth it though looks sick!!! i know i did it myself
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Very nice work :up: Subscribed.

You've put a lot of thought into that pump tray. I finally decided to just put mine on some rubber feet. Not sure it's going to be enough though, so may need to review that after testing.

Are you planning on using the standard Lian-Li HDD extension kits in the right bays? If so, you may want to check how far they intrude into the case. The hdd itself intrudes an additional 17mm beyond the extension kit. It's a mistake I made when I first positioned my pump on the rear of the motherboard tray. I didn't consider the additional space required by the hdd.

Good work on the polishing. I wouldn't have had the patience to do all that hard work :p:.

hmm nice sandwiched idea...

nice polish too. very leaden arms afterwards...

Well I guess, I am going to place the HDD in the other part of the Case in front of one of the 120mm fans in the 3-bay brackets with rubbers like Cooltek´s "disc silencers"
3 Single Slots are used for DVD LCD an controlling unit and the others on the left are completely free. One triple is mounted on the right, where the pumps are. So I wouldn´t get into trouble with my pump tray.

Nice! :up:

I love this case, would spring for one if they weren't so freakishly expensive can't wait to see how this turns out.

Wow! Excellent work on the polish. I love the mirror-finished look. Keep it up. SUBSCRIBED!

we need to get a Lian Li Stickie thread up in the Computer Case Section. There are at least 6 owners who have modded them that I know of

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we need to get a Lian Li Stickie thread up in the Computer Case Section. There are at least 6 owners who have modded them that I know of

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definetly

There's like 3 lian li threads in the wc/computer case sections...

lian li showcase
v2000 v1200 thread

etc etc maybe put them all together somehow?

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nice job :up: Subscribed.

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Originally Posted by disruptfam

definetly

There's like 3 lian li threads in the wc/computer case sections...

lian li showcase
v2000 v1200 thread

etc etc maybe put them all together somehow?

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Kind of like the separate V series thread. Keeps the specific knowledge accessible.

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Originally Posted by disruptfam

definetly

There's like 3 lian li threads in the wc/computer case sections...

lian li showcase
v2000 v1200 thread

etc etc maybe put them all together somehow?

:up:

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and 1 in the phase section...:rolleyes: :p:

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I love this case, would spring for one if they weren't so freakishly expensive can't wait to see how this turns out.

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But if you once have had a Lian Li, you wouldn´t wanna have another case again. :D
That look is amazing :up:

Do you have a special Lian Li section now?
I just posted it here according to the other posters.
Actually it is a Case / Casemod thing which also fits into the section Watercooling. :shrug:

Here is OK as long as its LC'd.
Where and how the rads and pumps are fitted is one of the more challenging parts of LC. So it belongs here for that alone.

nice work. Look forward to a update :)

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Originally Posted by Jedda

Here is OK as long as its LC'd.
Where and how the rads and pumps are fitted is one of the more challenging parts of LC. So it belongs here for that alone.

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Xcuse me... what is LC'd/LC? :confused:


@all: Swiftech MCRES micro-res users. The DDC+ has lots of problems with some reservoirs due to their power. Are the swiftech mcres very calm & quiet?

LC = Liquid Cooled

And yes, MC-RES reservoirs bleed quickly, don't bubble up and are quiet.

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LC = Liquid Cooled

And yes, MC-RES reservoirs bleed quickly, don't bubble up and are quiet.

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kk LC'd (sometimes things are less difficult as they seem :D )

..don´t bubble up and quiet. That is exactly, what I wanted to hear. I already have them here anyways. ;)

As you could see on that picture:

http://www.lifepatcher.com/pc/ll/pe13.jpg

In that Res I needed a filter sponge. Without this thing, the pump did not only get bubbles into the loop, it really got stuck by air. :shakes:

Have you tried the freeze the coolant trick on your Alphacool reservoir ?

No I never heard about that. :D

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good work so far..

Almost ready with everything now. :)

Selfmade-Shroud

http://www.lifepatcher.com/pc/ll/shroud.jpg

http://www.lifepatcher.com/pc/ll/shroud2.jpg

Multiswitch and Aquaero (Aquacomputer Equipment) worked into the Lian Li-Original Front Panels:


http://www.lifepatcher.com/pc/ll/ms1.jpg

http://www.lifepatcher.com/pc/ll/ms2.jpg

http://www.lifepatcher.com/pc/ll/ms3.jpg

http://www.lifepatcher.com/pc/ll/msae1.jpg

http://www.lifepatcher.com/pc/ll/msae2.jpg

The Rad mounted under the top:

http://www.lifepatcher.com/pc/ll/radmount.jpg

http://www.lifepatcher.com/pc/ll/radmount2.jpg

The other Rad like this:

http://www.lifepatcher.com/pc/ll/radmount3.jpg

http://www.lifepatcher.com/pc/ll/radmount4.jpg

The Swiftech reservoirs:

http://www.lifepatcher.com/pc/ll/topopen1.jpg

http://www.lifepatcher.com/pc/ll/topopen2.jpg

The cooling side of the case:
(some fans are missing yet)

http://www.lifepatcher.com/pc/ll/pumpsite1.jpg

http://www.lifepatcher.com/pc/ll/pumpsite2.jpg

http://www.lifepatcher.com/pc/ll/back.jpg

and that´s the hardwareside:

http://www.lifepatcher.com/pc/ll/hwside1.jpg

http://www.lifepatcher.com/pc/ll/hwside2.jpg

http://www.lifepatcher.com/pc/ll/hwside3.jpg

Just took AC-Ryan Meshpanel for the top:

http://www.lifepatcher.com/pc/ll/top.jpg

http://www.lifepatcher.com/pc/ll/top1.jpg

Stealthmod for the DVD:


http://www.lifepatcher.com/pc/ll/msae3.jpg

http://www.lifepatcher.com/pc/ll/msae4.jpg

http://www.lifepatcher.com/pc/ll/stealth1.jpg

http://www.lifepatcher.com/pc/ll/stealth2.jpg

http://www.lifepatcher.com/pc/ll/stealth3.jpg

http://www.lifepatcher.com/pc/ll/stealth4.jpg

Started to make a window for the coolingside

http://www.lifepatcher.com/pc/ll/window1.jpg

http://www.lifepatcher.com/pc/ll/window1.jpg

http://www.lifepatcher.com/pc/ll/window2.jpg

That is all for the first. Soon I will finish that all. :)

cheers guys!

http://www.lifepatcher.com/pc/ll/vfd.jpg

Wow, you've put a lot of work into that :up:

The bracket for the top rad is an excellent idea, and I like the front panel mods too. Can't wait to see it finished.

Thanx! I really worked with lots of love for detail. I cannot create anything like the murderbox, but I do my very best, to get a unique stylish case. I think, the 343b is not an everyday case like Tenjin07. Except the murderbox no Tenjin could give me anything anymore. They are everywhere now, so it is not a unique one anymore. :D Lian Li rulez! ;)

I guess, that I will use hot melt adhesive for that little window.

http://www.lifepatcher.com/pc/ll/window4.jpg

http://www.lifepatcher.com/pc/ll/window5.jpg

peebee,

I apologize profusely for not getting back to you on the "freeze" trick for the Alphacool reservoir. I totally forgot about it.

As so eloquently mentioned by pie_uk :

"fill the cap up with your choice of coolant and put it in the freezer for about 5 mins then once in a solid state screw it back onto your res tank and wait for it to turn back to liquid"

"you freeze it because its impossible to fill right to the top without the big air bubble inside the cap. hence if you fill the cap up (frozen) its a hell lot easier to then put on and wait for it to melt"

Hope that this is helpful. I think it works well.

Oh ok IanY. I removed it now anyways. Nice trick. But that is only for little funny testings :D

looks very clean and classy i like well done

Guess the tube must collapse a tiny bit, to compensate as volume reduces when the frozen liquid melts.

3M double sided industrial tape is great for mounting mesh and plexi. Virtually invisible. PerfPC stock it.

Great so far, peebee!

Thanks. I also thought about double sided tape. Even if it would be visible, it wouldn´t be a prob. It is only used inside, so nobody would ever see that. ;)

We have a tape supplier called "tesa" here in Germany. They also make doublesided tapes. 3m is also known here. I gues I will figure it out before I take the hot melt adhesive.

At least I have to wait until wednesday/thursday. I gave the plexi pieces to a fellow. He will add some mirror foil/leaf. Then you can only take a look inside, when light is turned on inside of the case.

Then I still have to order some LED-Strips.

looks great!!! i like the window mod and the front looks very clean nice work :)

really nice work mate, congrats :)

Thank you guys!

Now I received my mirror taped Plexi back:

Looks good in the mod :)

If I have my LEDs, I can demonstrate, that it is getting a simple window, when lights are turned on in the case.

http://www.lifepatcher.com/pc/ll/window6.jpg

Beautiful rig! Personally I'd use metall hose clamps, the ones you are using looks a bit weak.

Amazing! the builds around here get better every day.

Awesome... well thought out and well executed mods! I like it!

i love this multiswitch and aquaero display mounted into the front panels, nice idea :up:

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Now I received my mirror taped Plexi back:

Looks good in the mod :)

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By right it does... i love that idea... cant wait to see it in action :)

I also liked the way u did the DVD drive... do u just push on the front kinda where the button was to open it??

Nice case :up:

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hey mate

whats that led display your using?? and does it come in black/blue backlight??

cheers

Thank you guys.
@disrupt: It is an Aquaero from www.aquacomputer.de and it controls my whole Loop with Fans and temps.

You can put any colour by using a foil with the desired colour, because it is a vfd.

@Junkee: Yes, I just touch the panel at the spot where the Button was.

do they ship internationally?

i don't understand the foil thing...

i can't find any black alu brushed ones like yours...

(only silver ones)

edit: nevermind you have to purchase the black face place as an extra?

You can buy black faceplates extra, but mines are the original Lian Li Front panels. You can´t buy it like this. I modded them (cut the wholes by myself). The silver plate is included. I took the silver one and layed it onto the Lian Li panels to copy it onto them.

See here:

http://www.lifepatcher.com/pc/ll/ms1.jpg
http://www.lifepatcher.com/pc/ll/ms2.jpg
http://www.lifepatcher.com/pc/ll/ms3.jpg

I did the same with the aquaero, but I did not take pictures of that anymore.

http://www.lifepatcher.com/pc/ll/msae1.jpg



I don´t know if they ship internationally, but I guess they do! Should I ask something for ya? Internationally on request is mentioned there!

Regarding the "foilthing" What do you call it? It is a kind of Coloured plastic, where you can look through like the glasses for 3D-cinema. Also Spots in Discotheques have them.

like sold here: http://cgi.ebay.de/Farbfolien-Farbfi...QQcmdZViewItem

ahhhhhk i get ya

cheers matey

Soooooo! My left window is cut´n done. See yourself!

Here you can see, that light comes through the fan in the back into the case and the mirror gets already slightly clear. If the lighting is installed and turned on, this effekt will turn the mirror into a usual clear window :D

http://www.lifepatcher.com/pc/ll/window7.jpg

ummm, peebee, I don't want to alarm you, but you gots a monster in your case!!!!

Very nice job!

Which model Aquareo did you get?

@SIG: I have the VFD-Version or what do you mean?

That monster Shazza, is my dog! It is watching my case. So don´t touch :D

http://www.lifepatcher.com/pc/ll/front111.jpg

http://www.lifepatcher.com/pc/ll/front112.jpg

Very nice work..:clap:

You plumbed the blocks on yours exactly like I've settled on for mine.
Once the mosfet blocks are added that seems the best layout for tube.
Like your stealthing work.
I did the same to DVD but used the plate with holes. Thought of switching to black nuts and bolts on your face plates?
Very classy job. You must be pleased.

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http://www.lifepatcher.com/pc/ll/front112.jpg

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Very nice peebee :clap:
But why be so mean to your dog???? I mean look at him, you gave him a glass collar for christmas didn't you?
I bet he sure liked that! heck it was probably his favorite present...
Why I atta......!#%@$&%$!$@***!$!

Jk man.... :up:

Peebee,

Very nice work! Clever ideas and strategic placement.

A quick question for you. In post #2, the 10th picture, "The orande rubber sponge is fixed to the black material with hot melt adhesive, or whatever you call that". What is the black material and hot melt adhesive called and where can it be purchased?

Thanks

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@SIG: I have the VFD-Version or what do you mean?

That monster Shazza, is my dog! It is watching my case. So don´t touch :D

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That is what I was asking, what are the advantages of the VFD over the next model down?

looks great! checked up the vfd screen of yours and its very expensive... lol
Even more so to get it shipped to Aus..

Yeah, Sharka seem a bit higher for shipping.

Just have to add ... I love so many of the cases in here, but this is really one of my favorites. It looks so clean, and has lots of cool stuff. Very good job, peebee. Thanks for sharing.

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You plumbed the blocks on yours exactly like I've settled on for mine.
Once the mosfet blocks are added that seems the best layout for tube.
Like your stealthing work.
I did the same to DVD but used the plate with holes. Thought of switching to black nuts and bolts on your face plates?
Very classy job. You must be pleased.

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thx! And yep, I thought of changing to black nuts, but I am still looking for some special more flat nuts. I know what I want, I have it already in mind, but I didn´t see it yet. Still got some stuff to do, so I have some time to find them.

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Peebee,

Very nice work! Clever ideas and strategic placement.

A quick question for you. In post #2, the 10th picture, "The orande rubber sponge is fixed to the black material with hot melt adhesive, or whatever you call that". What is the black material and hot melt adhesive called and where can it be purchased?
Thanks

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Tim Taylor could help you out :D. Do you have these do-it-yourself-stores? where you can buy paint, bathroom material, stuff to built a house and so on? There you can buy heating-pistols which are loaded with glue sticks. That is what I mean with hot melt adhesive. We say Heissklebepistole" :D Did not get another translation.

Sticks: http://www.glfi.com/scGlueHotMeltStickPN284.gif
Pistol: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...ebePistole.jpg

The sponge is sponge rubber and the black material is cellular rubber.
This is used to buff/plaster/hoover up walls. (have no idea what you call it :D)

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That is what I was asking, what are the advantages of the VFD over the next model down?

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Like already told disrupt some posts before. You can choose any colour for your display by just adding a coloured piece of plastic (foil/leaf) in the front of the display. You don´t have to stay by one colour. If you like to change, just go and get some of this material used for Disco-Spots to get different colour for your VFD.

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looks great! checked up the vfd screen of yours and its very expensive... lol
Even more so to get it shipped to Aus..

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It is not a display only, with all the optional stuff it controls your whole PC and fans according to your temps. In case of emergency (temps too high or no flow anymore) it shuts down your PC. (Just add an optional ATX-Break-Cable) It also keeps your PC as quiet as possible, but if more performance is needed ist speeds up fans etc.

The VFD is more expensive because of this high quality display. Once you have had that aquaero you won´t miss it anymore. He is taking care of your rig :)

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Just have to add ... I love so many of the cases in here, but this is really one of my favorites. It looks so clean, and has lots of cool stuff. Very good job, peebee. Thanks for sharing.

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Thanks guys! I like to post here as well, because the rigs are very impressive and I like to watch them all in here! :top:

Remember that: Size matters! :D :rofl:

That's cool! I thought it was something special you purchased.

Thanks

it is one of the best materials to kill vibrations and it is also cheap. I paid around 4€ per mat. ;)

very nice exterior look, nice interior too of course...

wow i really like those mods you did with the multiswitch and aquero...

Do you mind if i copy your ideas mate?

All i need now is to find somewhere that has there 2 products in stock...

Does the software that comes with these items half english aswell?

Nice work and nicely executed. Lian-Li, Aquaero, polishing..looks a tad familiar. ;)

Hey no problem disrupt. Don´t care. ;) It´s not new to the world and I didn´t invent that! It´s simply stealthmodding and optical finetuning. :D Just in another way.

Here is also an english support forum for these products: http://www.aqua-computer-systeme.de/forum-index.htm
(all down) The software Aquasuite is also in english, if you choose it in installation or menu.

Hey Prodigy! I just saw your polishing now. Excellent dude! That is all worth it. Did you have to rework it in the meantime? Or did it stay as clear as it was? :)

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Hey Prodigy! I just saw your polishing now. Excellent dude! That is all worth it. Did you have to rework it in the meantime? Or did it stay as clear as it was? :)

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It was worth it. But I tell you this, you couldn't PAY me to do it again. :shakes: It took me 3 days of sanding/polishing/sanding/polishing and more of the same for about a total of about 14 hours until it was a true mirror reflection, no cloudiness.

I like a clean system, so I regularly give a nice burst of compressed air for dust and the like. I also use a clean microfiber cloth to rub the aluminum and plexi window. And with said maintenance it still looks just as good 7 months later.

Sometimes compressed air would be pretty good. But I ain´t got any compressor. Maybe I should look after a small solution anywhere. Microfiber rocks :D I steal them from my wife. ;)

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Sometimes compressed air would be pretty good. But I ain´t got any compressor. Maybe I should look after a small solution anywhere. Microfiber rocks :D I steal them from my wife. ;)

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A can of compressed air works just fine. :up:

So! Just switched Slim Triple in top to the Nexxxxos ExtremeIII from the front bay and instead of that one a TC PA 120.3 incl. Shroud is now running there in the left side. Put DVD, HDD and aquero etc. into the right.

Just to make sure, the TC won´t take some of the warmed air from inside of the case, I sealed the sides with some sponge stuff. But see yourself, because pics say more than words.

http://www.lifepatcher.com/pc/ll/radmount5.jpg
http://www.lifepatcher.com/pc/ll/raddicht1.jpg
http://www.lifepatcher.com/pc/ll/raddicht2.jpg
http://www.lifepatcher.com/pc/ll/raddicht3.jpg
http://www.lifepatcher.com/pc/ll/raddicht4.jpg
http://www.lifepatcher.com/pc/ll/raddicht5.jpg
http://www.lifepatcher.com/pc/ll/hwside4.jpg

Hi Peebee - let me say that I find it very inspiring to study other 343s while I am currently building my own. I have a question about your setup - you say that you use foam to prevent heated air from the case to be sucked through the PA 120.3 in the front panel. What about the radiator in the top panel then? That is where the hot air would naturally end up - rising to the top. Have you thought of any measures to optimize the conditions for that radiator too?
I have a HW Labs GT Pro III in the front and a Nexxos II to be placed in the top with the radiator plate (optional item - not yet delivered).

That is what I am aiming next! The top rad also needs to be sealed from upcoming warm air. I thought of a plexi frame around the fans of the top rad. I am still not quite sure how I will do it. Buying a panel would be too easy and there is only a dual panel available. The main thing I didn´t like with the panel, was the thing, that I cannot lift the Top anymore without removing the rad. That was the thing that really made me say: NO WAY! I want to remove the Top without any compromising.

Still looking good :up:. I'm also considering some small changes to my rig, but will post details later in my build thread.

I did have a couple of minor 'challenges' with my case and was wondering how you handled them.

Firstly, the drive bay covers on the left. I was able to secure them from both sides. However, with everything installed, I can't access the screws on the right side (centre of case) to remove the covers. This means I can't access the filters in the lower 2 bay covers to remove and clean them. I was considering modding the bay covers to allow a single long filter, although I suspect I may then have problems inserting the long filter. How do you manage the cleaning of the filters?

Also, for the DVD drive, fan controller and hdd modules on the right side of the case, I wasn't able to fix these on the left side as there wasn't enough room. I therefore used the specially supplied screws and then just slid them in:

http://img114.imageshack.us/img114/3796/screwsni3.jpg

However, this means that everything in the right drive bay is only truly 'fixed' on one side, the result being that not everything is aligned correctly with the front cover of the case itself. Do you have a better solution for this problem?

As I see it you have to replace the screws to a type that can be tightened using a wrench instead of a screwdriver. I had the same problem when fitting the radiator brackets, but then I inserted the screw from the other side and tightened the nut on the outside (using a small adjustable wrench).
You might perhaps use a small screwdriver "bit" held with a pair of pliers or a wrench and try to tighten the screw, but it would be a bit tricky...

Well it is not necessary for me to tighten the drives or bay covers from the inner side, but I can, because I made the bigger hole into the mainboard-tray. So I can reach the left side from the right bay from the right side of the left. :D

See on pics again, what I mean:

http://www.lifepatcher.com/pc/ll/tray.jpg

http://www.lifepatcher.com/pc/ll/pe23.jpg

This bigger hole was very important to me. It makes all the working with cables easier etc. And it offers the fixing with the thumbscrews from inside. Still a bit tricky to hit the threads, but it works better than you think :)

Most stuff is done.

LEDs still missing and Radsealing for top is still in planing

http://www.lifepatcher.com/pc/ll/hwside5.jpg
http://www.lifepatcher.com/pc/ll/pumpsite3.jpg

A suggestion for sealing up the top rad:
Weatherstripping from Home Depot or Lowes. It can be purchased in several thicknesses and has a sticky backing on one side. I used it purely for cosmetics, but it would work perfectly for thermal isolation as well (that's what it's designed to do anyway)

MG

*duh* Ok, I just realized you are not in the US. So, I'm not sure where you would find weatherstripping. In the US we use it to seal out cold air from bad windows and doors. I'm sure that the probably have something like this in Europe.

I chopped the mobo tray completely at the point of that opening. Then I modified a piece to attach to the existing brace so it would still give the tray some rigidity, as it does now. The tray has some give now, but it's not all that bad. And now I can reach all the right side of the left hand drive stack, which was very much needed.

If they'd made that mobo tray slide out removeable, this case would have been better. Still is a nice case though some of the features of the MM's like the front rad mounting (which is what nearly everyone is doing with their 343's anyway) would have probably made the 343 a bit more perfect if they had been included.

:)

Well, maybe the weatherstripping is also available in germany too. But I thought of plexi, because you still have a view inside. That would be the more beautiful isolating effect. If that doesn´t work that well, i will think about something like the weatherstripping.

I do like the MM Cases, but they are not as beautiful, as the 343b's.

Update! I just put the LEDs in the case, to see how it looks like!

LEDs really do their job!

http://www.lifepatcher.com/pc/ll/weiss11.jpg

http://www.lifepatcher.com/pc/ll/weiss12.jpg

http://www.lifepatcher.com/pc/ll/weiss13.jpg

http://www.lifepatcher.com/pc/ll/weiss14.jpg

New cam, new pic :)

LEDs installed finally.

http://www.lifepatcher.com/pc/ll/open.jpg

Nice! Can you post some more pictures?

More pictures of what exactly? Please precise, the I can make´em. ;)
If you get back some pages there are lots of pics. Or do you mean anything special? :)

New Pics can be found on Million-Dollar-PCs.com

what elbows are those?

Elbows? What exactly do you mean? Fittings? LED-Holder?

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Originally Posted by peebee

Elbows? What exactly do you mean? Fittings? LED-Holder?

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On your SB you have an Elbow Fitting on the outlet. :up:

That's not an elbow, that's a Banjo fitting. They're probably just a tad more restrictive than a standard elbow though.

Ah, now I got yah! It is a drilled up version of those:

http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/2...tckeic6.th.jpg


It was a private collective order of users at this company: www.pneumatikwelt.de That one should be less restrictive, if you take an elbow fitting to compare.

I drilled the holes with a 9mm drill, so the restriction should be very very low. According to the non-restrictive EK-Waterblocks in the loop, I don´t think, that there is a performance drop in cooling ;)
CPU-Loop has no elbows and its own PA120.3

what leds are those matE?

They are called Superflux. They are pre-installed on these strips. Bought them from this shop in Germany: www.leds.de

Exact product link is this: http://www.leds.de/c20/LED_strips_mo...D_Leisten.html

You can cut these strips every 5cm (3 leds) and the quality is amazing. A little bit expensive, but that´s it anyways, if you build a nice rig ;)
You also can buy the leds separate without the strips, then it gets cheaper. But I am too lazy to do this by myself :D

Okay I am done with my built.

I actually really made exactly all the things I had in mind, when I bought this case. And it really looks better than I thought it would look like, when I started working on it. :)

Enough room for my stuff and still looking clean and tidy. That was all I wanted.
Her the pics of the final built including all light variations which I can change just like my mood wants me to.

Maybe I will add green LEDs later :D

http://www.lifepatcher.com/pc/ll/mdpc1.jpg
http://www.lifepatcher.com/pc/ll/mdpc2.jpg
http://www.lifepatcher.com/pc/ll/mdpc3.jpg
http://www.lifepatcher.com/pc/ll/mdpc4.jpg
http://www.lifepatcher.com/pc/ll/mdpc6.jpg
http://www.lifepatcher.com/pc/ll/mdpc7.jpg
http://www.lifepatcher.com/pc/ll/mdpc8.jpg
http://www.lifepatcher.com/pc/ll/mdpc9.jpg
http://www.lifepatcher.com/pc/ll/mdpc10.jpg
http://www.lifepatcher.com/pc/ll/mdpc11.jpg
http://www.lifepatcher.com/pc/ll/mdpc12.jpg