Some Yorkfield-Results (2,33Ghz - no QX9650 ;) )

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10-22-2007, 12:05 AM
SeLecT

Some Yorkfield-Results (2,33Ghz - no QX9650 ;) )

Here i will present some results of an Yorkfield ES. It is a very early stepping and no QX9650, so i didn't reach any interesting OC-results like Hipro, shamino oder someone else.
It is an Yorkfield 2,33Ghz Quad and his specs are 7*333Mhz with 12MB L2-cache.

The greatest problem was the little multiplier and the bad stepping. i couldn't reach any higher score.

My test rig:

Yorkfield 2,33Ghz (cooled by D-Tek Fuzion)
Asus P5K-E Wifi (stockcooling - no mods)
2GB Crucial Value D9GKX
Gecube HD2900XT (cooled by D-tek Fuzion)

Some results:

CPU-Z Validation:

http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=257980

AQ3:

http://s3.directupload.net/images/07...p/i46gf6zm.png

Super Pi 1M:

http://s4.directupload.net/images/07...p/9dhzam3j.png

Cinebench 9.5:

http://s6.directupload.net/images/07...p/4ad6k8y8.png

Cinebench 10:

http://s3.directupload.net/images/07...p/e2tlzfb6.png

3D Mark 06:

http://s2.directupload.net/images/07...p/nrharlcs.png

Some results with my E6600 @ 3,2Ghz (Ram @ 500Mhz @ 4-4-4-8)

SuperPi 1M: 15,906 Seconds
Aquamark 3: 171.249 Points
3D Mark 06: 11040 Points

Last but not least a picture of this little CPU:

http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/797/cpunz1.png
10-22-2007, 12:12 AM
saaya

thats really an awfull clocking chip, shamino and vince almost cant believe its clocking that bad, neither can i.
are you sure there wasnt something limiting you?
what volts did you try?
10-22-2007, 12:16 AM
fallwind

The 7x multiplier is the limiting factor here. Unless we see boards and chips that can do 600+FSB, this will be the type of OC's we'll see out of these CPU's.
10-22-2007, 12:20 AM
SeLecT

hey my friend :D you must sleep :p:

Hmm, i tried, 1,4V and all volts on my board at the limit, but i didn't reach any higher score. i will try any more volts....

i think, that myself is not the problem ;)

Edit:

Here is another validation with 1,5V:

3320Mhz
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=257980
10-22-2007, 12:44 AM
MusicIsMyLife

Quote:

Originally Posted by SeLecT

...all volts on my board at the limit, but i didn't reach any higher score.

In my oppinion this could be your problem.

Play with voltages, try some combinations. I gained ~25 mhz fsb by upping only one voltage option (other remains at minimum).
10-22-2007, 12:49 AM
SeLecT

Yes, i will try a little bit ;)

Here is a little teaser of 3200Mhz @ Prime.

http://s1.directupload.net/images/07...p/xacevf86.png

But i think the FSB is limiting to reach more than 3300Mhz.
10-22-2007, 12:53 AM
saaya

opening my last red bull now, lets see how long itll last :D
i think the guys here arent nearly benching as efficient as they used to earlier but we are having a lot more fun now :lol:

did you try a lower multi robert?
10-22-2007, 12:59 AM
SeLecT

Yes, i try a lower one, but the result wasn't better.

Some at Awardfabik told me, that i must deactivate static read control ans so on... maybe i have these options activated ;) I must look in the Bios but first i wait till prime runs 45 minutes.

then i will try i lower multi and some other things.
10-22-2007, 01:02 AM
OBR

My the same 2.33GHz chip ES, but Wolfadale does without problem 3500MHz! ! !
10-22-2007, 01:06 AM
SeLecT

But for 3500Mhz i must reach an FSB of 500Mhz with a quad.
I will try, but my hope is not huge...

What Vcore do you need?
10-22-2007, 01:10 AM
adamsleath

mmmm

FSB limited...with quad
9300 isnt going to be high fsb.

chipset is limiting for quads aswell isnt it?
10-22-2007, 01:10 AM
saaya

only 3.5?
q6600s can do that!
what do you mean with you got worse results with a lower multiplier?
you reached an even lower fsb?

why are you running prime for 45mins?
whats the point of knowing if 3.2 is stable for 45mins or not? :D

theres obviously something wrong, either the chip sucks or you need to adjust the settings, so in either of this two possibilities, what will it help to know if 3.2 is prime stable? :P
10-22-2007, 01:16 AM
SeLecT

I do it, because yesterday i've testet SuperPi 32M with 3000Mhz, but after a few seconds, there was an error. i'll do it for my conscience :D

In an few minutes will will play with the settings. ;)

Edit:

http://www.abload.de/img/unbenannt4bq.png

Edit2:

SuperPi 32M with 3314Mhz :wiggle:

http://www.abload.de/img/32m13j7.png
10-22-2007, 08:05 AM
SeLecT

Here is a little 3D Mark 06-Result ;)

[KM] SeLecT - 13673 - Gecube HD2900XT @ 847/981 - Cat. 7.10 - Yorkfield @ 3300MHz - 2x1024MB Crucial Value @ 471Mhz @ 4-4-4-8

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=3477839
10-22-2007, 09:42 AM
Crazypinoy9

This is the same chip that I have!!!

i was maxed at 3.2. If it only had at least an 8 multi it would of been great!

Right now it's only good for a desk ornament:D
10-22-2007, 10:09 AM
SeLecT

Yes, your're right, an 8 multi will be great, but with a 7 multi this CPU is trash.
10-22-2007, 10:21 AM
Crazypinoy9

Quote:

Originally Posted by SeLecT

Yes, your're right, an 8 multi will be great, but with a 7 multi this CPU is trash.

ya....but this definitely is an early stepping so we can't expect much. Even Alienware got a few of these chips some time ago and they told me they sucked. They just recently got QX9650's and they love'em!
10-22-2007, 11:41 AM
SeLecT

Jepp, this steppings sucks... :D
10-22-2007, 12:18 PM
Bobsama

Anyone have running a Q9450 ES? I'd actually like to see how those things clock--lots of people have said great but so far I've only seen the Q9300 and QX9650 clocking.
10-22-2007, 12:27 PM
Crazypinoy9

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bobsama

Anyone have running a Q9450 ES? I'd actually like to see how those things clock--lots of people have said great but so far I've only seen the Q9300 and QX9650 clocking.

Intel is pretty tight right now on all the yorkfield chips. I've been trying to get my hands on a Q9550 with no luck. according to my intel rep they're only tight on allocation of ES chips because launch is still in january so not that many people including reviewers have them.
10-22-2007, 12:32 PM
aiya

its been known that so far the ES yorkfields have a fsb max of ~470fsb. so i'm not surprised that SeLecT only got 474fsb out his 2.33ghz ES.

hopefully this is just an ES thing and that retail chips will go higher.
10-22-2007, 12:51 PM
nullface

OMG, how many of you have a York allready (ES)?

Can i count 4 ppl? unbelievable!
10-22-2007, 01:05 PM
Crazypinoy9

Quote:

Originally Posted by aiya

its been known that so far the ES yorkfields have a fsb max of ~470fsb. so i'm not surprised that SeLecT only got 474fsb out his 2.33ghz ES.

hopefully this is just an ES thing and that retail chips will go higher.

The early steppings of the ES samples that both Select and I got were definitely not good, but i know of a few system builders like Alienware, Voodoo(HP) and Falcon that got there hands on the newer steppings and have said that they are a lot better. I believe Biohazard and hypersonic got chips too.
10-22-2007, 01:54 PM
DMH

How much did it cost or it's been sponsored??
10-22-2007, 02:16 PM
Crazypinoy9

Quote:

Originally Posted by DMH

How much did it cost or it's been sponsored??

well in don't know about everyone else but Intel gave me one for evaluation and testing.
10-22-2007, 05:24 PM
BobHarris

What is the temperature at 3.2GHz? Does this chip run much cooler than the conroe at the same speed?
10-22-2007, 06:53 PM
Ace-a-Rue

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crazypinoy9

Intel is pretty tight right now on all the yorkfield chips. I've been trying to get my hands on a Q9550 with no luck. according to my intel rep they're only tight on allocation of ES chips because launch is still in january so not that many people including reviewers have them.

are you sure you heard january for the QX9650???...it thought it was suppose to be mid november for the QX9650.
10-22-2007, 07:18 PM
mXpS

Wow that stepping is really weak and not impressive at all, I really hope that the rest turn out to be better. Although I would still take one and mess around with it HA.:yepp:
10-22-2007, 07:45 PM
Crazypinoy9

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ace-a-Rue

are you sure you heard january for the QX9650???...it thought it was suppose to be mid november for the QX9650.

I'm sorry i wasn't clear..:p: All yorks besides the QX9650 are in january. QX9650 is on Nov16th

Basically the regular Q's
10-22-2007, 09:46 PM
Blacklash

Thanks for sharing.

5279 for a CPU score in 3dmark06 at a mere 3.2GHz looks good to me. Of course that's from the perspective of a Vista user :p

This time I am going to treat myself and go QX9650.
10-23-2007, 12:09 AM
SeLecT

Quote:

Originally Posted by BobHarris

What is the temperature at 3.2GHz? Does this chip run much cooler than the conroe at the same speed?

All the tools, Coretemp, Everest and so on, don't work with this stepping of the cpu. So i don't know the real temparture.

Quote:

Originally Posted by mXpS

Wow that stepping is really weak and not impressive at all, I really hope that the rest turn out to be better. Although I would still take one and mess around with it HA.:yepp:

The other steppings are better ;) Trust me!

Here some other benches at 3300Mhz:

SeLecT - 13770 - Yorkfield @ 3300MHz - 2x1024MB Crucial Value @ 589Mhz @ 5-5-5-15 - Gecube HD2900XT @ 860/963 - Cat. 7.10

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=3480329

SeLecT - 194088 - Single HD2900XT @ 875/963 - Cat. 7.10 - Yorkfield @ 3300Mhz - 2x 1024MB D9GKX @ 589MHz 5-4-4-8

http://www.abload.de/thumb/aq37n9.png
10-23-2007, 12:14 AM
Thorburn

It's not like the Conroe days where Intel needs chips leaking all over the place, they have the performance lead so there is no need for ES chips to work their way around.
10-23-2007, 01:54 AM
SeLecT

A few seconds better than my older runs :D

SeLecT / Yorkfield @ 3326Mhz / VCore @ 1.504V / FSB 475 MHz / Teiler 4:5 / 2x1GB Crucial 594MHz 5-4-4-4 / Wakü / 13.828s

http://www.abload.de/img/1m3wnl.png
10-23-2007, 02:41 AM
Zeus

Cool, that beats my best effort 1M run at 3.6GHz with Conroe E6600.

At 3.6GHz this York must do some high 12ish seconds i presume...not bad.
10-23-2007, 02:52 AM
Leeghoofd

Well due to the low multi I thinnk it's not that bad at all, 8 multi will be required to reach the clocks most of us get with our Q6600's...

Would be nice to see some clock comparison eg at 7 x 450 between this baby and my Q6600 and the gfx and co on stock... I would go for at least an 8X if the results are as promising as some hardware sites indicate...

Would it be possible to do 450BSB at 7x ram in Sync 900mhz at 5-5-5-15 no tweaks, no OC on the vidcard ?
I'll test my rig on thursday to see if there's really some gain to go Yorkdale from our GO stepping...( if there are results ofcourse :p )

thx in Advance
10-23-2007, 03:03 AM
Zeus

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Just run what he did with his York (7x475 4:5 div 5-4-4) and do a 1M run to compare with your Q6600.

I bet you'll get 15sec at best.

edit:

Did a little comparisation myself, i think i have the same mobo (P5K-E):
10-23-2007, 03:20 AM
SeLecT

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leeghoofd

Well due to the low multi I thinnk it's not that bad at all, 8 multi will be required to reach the clocks most of us get with our Q6600's...

Would be nice to see some clock comparison eg at 7 x 450 between this baby and my Q6600 and the gfx and co on stock... I would go for at least an 8X if the results are as promising as some hardware sites indicate...

Would it be possible to do 450BSB at 7x ram in Sync 900mhz at 5-5-5-15 no tweaks, no OC on the vidcard ?
I'll test my rig on thursday to see if there's really some gain to go Yorkdale from our GO stepping...( if there are results ofcourse :p )

thx in Advance

What benches do you want to have?

I can test nearly everything with 450BSB at 7x ram in Sync 900mhz at 5-5-5-15. Say me, want you want, i will do it ;)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zeus

Just run what he did with his York (7x475 4:5 div 5-4-4) and do a 1M run to compare with your Q6600.

I bet you'll get 15sec at best.

edit:

Did a little comparisation myself, i think i have the same mobo (P5K-E):

Yes, with my old E6600 or E6850 i reaches nearly the same time with 3,6Ghz. (~13,9xx-14,1xx).

Edit:

Thx for this comparisationscreen! :D
10-23-2007, 03:24 AM
Leeghoofd

I never pushed my ram up so high, I never go above stock voltages ( 2.3 volts) as I cherish them too much :p, I own the Gskills PC8000 version 4-4-4-5, dunno if they also do 1200mhz (will give it a shot though) Also I don't like some Superpi scores as they are highly tweaked, on Iram drives and co really speeding up things, there was even a guy with an E4400 ( 3.6Ghz) beating my 13.129 score of my E6600@3825 with slower ram timings then me, never understood that... must be in the tweaks...

I just want to knwo if it's worthwhile if I can get a good price for my Q6600 next year to replace it with a Yorkie, or just to hold on to my cash for a little bit longer...
10-23-2007, 03:28 AM
Leeghoofd

Quote:

Originally Posted by SeLecT

What benches do you want to have?

I can test nearly everything with 450BSB at 7x ram in Sync 900mhz at 5-5-5-15. Say me, want you want, i will do it ;)

450 x7 FSB, ram at 900mhz 5-5-5-15 , no OC on the Vidcard...
SuperPI ( no tweaks :p )
Everest home ram benchmarks
3dmark 2001/3/5/6
Aquamark run

Don't need screenies just results...(maybe a memset screenie of how the ram is setup on the P5K-E as I won the P5K Dlx)

I need to install XP again on the P5K Dlx as Aquamark won't run on the 64bit version, take your time I won't be home till thursday...

danke sehr, freundlieche GruBen aus Belgien
10-23-2007, 03:36 AM
SeLecT

This would be possible ;)

But AQ3 isn't good to compare, because with your 8800GTX or GTS your scores will be much better. :)

Bitte schön, und alles Gute zurück nach Belgien! :D
10-23-2007, 03:58 AM
Leeghoofd

Just want to see the CPU score of AM3 :)
10-23-2007, 07:02 AM
SeLecT

Ok, here are my benches with 3150Mhz to compare them with a Q6600 @ 3150Mhz.

Rig:

Yorkfield 2,33Ghz @ 3150Mhz (450*7)
Asus P5K-E Wifi
2GB Crucial @ 900Mhz @ 5-5-5-15
HD2900XT default

Benches:

3D Mark 01: 57653 Points
3D Mark 03: 38402 Points
3D Mark 05: 19417 Points
3D Mark 06: 12330 Points
Aquamark3: 181409 Points
SuperPi 1M: 14,641 seconds

Screens:

3D Mark 05: 19417 Points
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=3593902

3D Mark 01: 57653 Points
http://www.abload.de/thumb/010djm.png

3D Mark 03: 38402 Points
http://www.abload.de/thumb/03wsc8.png

3D Mark 06: 12330 Points
http://www.abload.de/thumb/065dj7.png

AQ3: 181409 Points
http://www.abload.de/thumb/aq3yg6.png

SuperPi 1M: 14,641 seconds
http://www.abload.de/thumb/1mmehq.png

Everest-Benches:
http://www.abload.de/thumb/kopier4wy.png http://www.abload.de/thumb/lesecdg.png http://www.abload.de/thumb/schreibl57.png http://www.abload.de/thumb/verzgerungutv.png http://www.abload.de/thumb/testgr3.png
10-23-2007, 07:11 AM
perkam

At least try 7x515 X(

3dMark06 is very nice there tho.

Perkam
10-23-2007, 07:17 AM
SeLecT

7x515 = no boot :D

Thx :)

Here is a score with my old E6600 @ 3,2Ghz and no OC on the HD2900XT:

3D Mark 06 - 11040 Punkte
http://www.abload.de/thumb/3dmark06gv0.png
10-23-2007, 07:27 AM
Athens[2004]

Damn cant be true :D something is holding you back XD [not even 500 sounds a bit of disa/ent.]
10-23-2007, 08:06 AM
Leeghoofd

Thx for the benchies and screenies, at least I can compare what gives
10-23-2007, 10:14 AM
SeLecT

No problem :)

SeLecT / Rendering 1 CPU : 601 Pts / Rendering 2 CPU : 1942 Pts / Yorkfield @ 3300Mhz / 471*8 / Cinebech 9.5

2*1024 MB DDR2-800 Crucial Value Micrin D9GKX (589Mhz @ 5-4-4-5)
HD2900XT
Asus P5K-E

http://www.abload.de/img/95pkar.png

SeLecT / Rendering 1 CPU : 3669 Pts / Rendering 2 CPU : 13127 Pts / orkfield @ 3300Mhz / 471*8 / Cinebech 10

2*1024 MB DDR2-800 Crucial Value Micrin D9GKX (589Mhz @ 5-4-4-5)
HD2900XT
Asus P5K-E

http://www.abload.de/img/109tal.png
11-06-2007, 04:40 AM
camouflage

:D PLZ INTEL, gimme all of Your ESs right now............:ROTF:
11-06-2007, 05:34 AM
pumbertot

Quote:

Originally Posted by aiya

its been known that so far the ES yorkfields have a fsb max of ~470fsb. so i'm not surprised that SeLecT only got 474fsb out his 2.33ghz ES.

hopefully this is just an ES thing and that retail chips will go higher.

yes but thats prob chipset limits rather than CPUs. im sure when X38 matures or when X48 hits then FSBs will be much higher on ALL quads.
11-06-2007, 01:23 PM
weescott

My Q9550 has a max fsb of 455. 444 stable. Tested on an Asus Maximus Formula (401, 602, 701) and an Asus P5K3. I'm starting to think only the QX chips are good clockers. I hope I am wrong.
11-06-2007, 02:21 PM
Leeghoofd

Quote:

Originally Posted by SeLecT

Ok, here are my benches with 3150Mhz to compare them with a Q6600 @ 3150Mhz.

Rig:

Yorkfield 2,33Ghz @ 3150Mhz (450*7)
Asus P5K-E Wifi
2GB Crucial @ 900Mhz @ 5-5-5-15
HD2900XT default

Benches:

SuperPi 1M: 14,641 seconds -- 15,696 seconds

Screens:

3D Mark 06: 12330 Points
http://www.abload.de/thumb/065dj7.png

AQ3: 181409 Points
http://www.abload.de/thumb/aq3yg6.png

Everest-Benches:
http://www.abload.de/thumb/kopier4wy.png http://www.abload.de/thumb/lesecdg.png http://www.abload.de/thumb/schreibl57.png http://www.abload.de/thumb/verzgerungutv.png http://www.abload.de/thumb/testgr3.png

K my superPI on X38

15,696 against you 14,641

3dMark2006 CPU score on X38

4994 against your 5121

Aquamark3 CPU score X38

18515 against your 20877

Everest Home Edition

Read : 8720 against your 8356
Write : 8198 against your 9377
Copy : 8721 against your 7811
Latency : 57.7 against your 60.1

I did run these quickly on the Maximus Formula with 0701 bios, will do it on the P5K DLX to see if there's anything to gain but I doubt it highly lol... :rofl:
11-06-2007, 02:30 PM
CoW]8(0)

There are a few users that still aren't getting it. It's not yorkfield that's holding your OC back, its your board.

Getting 475Mhz FSB on a quad is AMAZINGLY high on any board, you should be so lucky to even get 450Mhz stable.

Moral of the story, P35 is not the ultimate Yorkfield chipset. And from the looks of X38 (which basically includes X48), we won't have a decent OC chipset for a long time.
11-07-2007, 03:41 AM
SeLecT

Thx Leeghoofd! :)

@CoW]8(0):

Jeah, i know, but i want more ;D
11-07-2007, 11:45 AM
RLM

Quote:

There are a few users that still aren't getting it. It's not yorkfield that's holding your OC back, its your board.

Getting 475Mhz FSB on a quad is AMAZINGLY high on any board, you should be so lucky to even get 450Mhz stable.

Moral of the story, P35 is not the ultimate Yorkfield chipset. And from the looks of X38 (which basically includes X48), we won't have a decent OC chipset for a long time.

Maybe I'm not getting it. Seems to me at this rate that the only worthwhile upgrade from a Q6600 G0 is going to be the QX9650. For a good while anyway. Intel's intention?

Just wonder are we going to see any threads in the not so distant titled "Can I unlock my multiplier?". Seem to remember seeing these a way back.

RLM
11-07-2007, 01:20 PM
Leeghoofd

yeah for me too only reason would be to surpass 3.8ghz, I will need at least another 8.5 or 9 multi CPU as I don't intend to run 500FSB to reach my magical 4ghz on water

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