HP Unveils First Collaboration with Voodoo PC

:) http://www.dailytech.com/HP+Unveils+...rticle8691.htm

Video review http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52LuA...Ddna%2Ddesktop

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HP's new Blackbird 002 is the result of the a year's worth of collaboration with Voodoo PC

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The new Blackbird 002 chassis features a completely aluminum chassis sporting a wedge-shaped design. HP’s Blackbird 002 features a hover design, where the chassis sits on a cast aluminum stand for a hovering look. The cast aluminum stand raises the chassis off the ground to provide airflow to the system’s 1100 Watt power supply mounted at the bottom of the chassis. The stand can also support up to 600 pounds, allowing users to stand on the system or set a couple concrete blocks on it.

HP touts the Blackbird 002’s superior thermal capabilities. The Blackbird 002 features a sealed, maintenance free water-cooling system. The water-cooling system cools the processor and graphics cards while keeping the system quiet. HP also touts the chassis’ isolated design, keeping every component chamber isolated and preventing hot air from contaminating the cool air stream.

The chassis also features a completely tool-less design, allowing owners to remove or replace all components without the needs of any tools. HP equips the Blackbird 002 with plenty of lighting. The chassis features accent and task lighting, according to Mark Solomon, lead designer, HP Gaming. Accent lighting highlights certain aspects of the Blackbird 002 such as the stand and front grille while task lighting highlights helpful portions of the case such as the chassis interior and rear ports.

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Review of the system http://www.hothardware.com/articles/...System/?page=1


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Humm I'm sure were gonna be hearing about HP buying Voodoo PC sometime in this or next year.
Just mmmmmmmmust do whatever Dell does...

ps: case looks cool however them graphics on the side are lame, makes it look like a giant mousepad, one of them you get for free when you buy... say... a HP pc

Okay, so let me see...


We have:

FSP power supply (junk)
Striker Extreme motherboard (overpriced)
Corsair dominator ram (overpriced)
CoolIT cooling system with probably two loud fans (which cools for garbage)


Wow, way to go. What a waste of perfectly good $



Lets try this again-

Nvidia reference board
Crucial Ballistix 8500 or lots of other ram that costs 1/2 as much yet performs just as well.
A vast selection of air cooled heatsinks that do a far better job, while making less noise
As for power supply, pick something Zippy/Sesonic/Etasis/etc...


Come on HP, you even use ZIPPY PSU's in your servers... ever thought why?

noobs with lots of money will buy this.

I got really angry at a friend of mine who had a PC which I build him back in the Radeon 9800 days which lasted him 5 years, cause suddenly he decided that his new pc would be from Dell.
He would buy this in a blink of an eye.

Im also sure he would LOVE the graphics on the side, anyone who would buy this would love that part too.

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Originally Posted by Dimitriman

Humm I'm sure were gonna be hearing about HP buying Voodoo PC sometime in this or next year.
Just mmmmmmmmust do whatever Dell does...

ps: case looks cool however them graphics on the side are lame, makes it look like a giant mousepad, one of them you get for free when you buy... say... a HP pc

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Hp bought them already like a year ago :) Hence, the merger

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Originally Posted by sladesurfer

Hp bought them already like a year ago :) Hence, the merger

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must have not cought my eyes.:p:
thank you

Just like Alienware and Falcon Northwest, this is for n00bs.

I like the case, but HP has priced themselves out of my reach.

bad parts but looking good.

looks nice :D

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Originally Posted by noobzed

bad parts but looking good.

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bad parts :confused: GTX sli 4 GB ram and quad core. bad parts?

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Originally Posted by sladesurfer

bad parts :confused: GTX sli 4 GB ram and quad core. bad parts?

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can't make everyone happy :shrug:

Aesthetically pleasing, but nearly anyone with know-how has better ways to spend their hardware budgets for top-tier components and builds.

just for the rich folks who doesnt like building computers. if i was rich i wouldnt care dishing out 10k for soemthing thats worth 2-3times less

teh case looks sexy i want that for my case! the hell whats inside :P

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Originally Posted by irev210

Okay, so let me see...


We have:


CoolIT cooling system with probably two loud fans (which cools for garbage)

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Is Asetek

http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?op...=412&Itemid=40

looks like that can play crysis well

Since when exactly are FSP power supplies "junk"?

You gotta hand it to Dell and HP. I think it's extremely bold to offer a water cooled system with a warranty. I would hate to work in the RMA dept. :D

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Since when exactly are FSP power supplies "junk"?

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I was thinking the same thing.

irev contradicts himself with a few things he says so i probably wouldn't take that post too seriously

i think you guys are also forgetting that this type of product is not geared towards everyone and if you for a moment think about the possible market segment you will realise that the choice of hardware used is more than justified IMO

review of the system http://www.hothardware.com/articles/...System/?page=1

Signs of innovation and ingenuity, but parts are needlessly expensive and cooling is second tier.

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Originally Posted by Kobalt

Signs of innovation and ingenuity, but parts are needlessly expensive and cooling is second tier.

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second tier cooling running an overclocked quad at 3.67Ghz

i don't know about you but that company has been around for a little while HP and Astek so it's not like they went for a yumcha solution here

i've always been a fan of HP and everytime i'd open up any of their business PC boxes in past i thought wow these guys kick arse.....they have great attention to detail in design and usually put together and thoroughly test their gear according to purpose used :up:

tell me Kobalt if you fit the market of a US$6000 PC which i doubt you do considering you are raising a price issue as first idea would you not want the best gear in the system. I am talking about the motherboard, RAM, CPU, GFX cards, even PSU and cooling...everything is pretty good.....I can understand you complaining about cooling not being all water for example and using a higher end solution there but to say outright it's needlessly expensive hardware components for top of the range gaming PC i am really surprised

this is not a budget system :S

I remember someone mentioning a while back that the this case was hot. but damn, this case is HOT! Very nice looking.

Kind of cool but getting one prebuilt takes out the DIY fun :(

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Originally Posted by sladesurfer

bad parts :confused: GTX sli 4 GB ram and quad core. bad parts?

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I think he meant the striker. Which, frankly, isn't the best choice for a mass market consumer 680i solution with 4gb of RAM.

Can you imagine all the tech support calls "wtf CPU INIT":rofl:

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Originally Posted by dinos22

second tier cooling running an overclocked quad at 3.67Ghz

i don't know about you but that company has been around for a little while HP and Astek so it's not like they went for a yumcha solution here

i've always been a fan of HP and everytime i'd open up any of their business PC boxes in past i thought wow these guys kick arse.....they have great attention to detail in design and usually put together and thoroughly test their gear according to purpose used :up:

tell me Kobalt if you fit the market of a US$6000 PC which i doubt you do considering you are raising a price issue as first idea would you not want the best gear in the system. I am talking about the motherboard, RAM, CPU, GFX cards, even PSU and cooling...everything is pretty good.....I can understand you complaining about cooling not being all water for example and using a higher end solution there but to say outright it's needlessly expensive hardware components for top of the range gaming PC i am really surprised

this is not a budget system :S

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They went for bling when other solutions would work and perform better. Chipset/PWM cooling comes to mind. No doubt its a nice PC, but they could have done better is all I'm saying. As someone going into engineering, I'm a critical person.

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Originally Posted by crash5s

I think he meant the striker. Which, frankly, isn't the best choice for a mass market consumer 680i solution with 4gb of RAM.

Can you imagine all the tech support calls "wtf CPU INIT":rofl:

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again, not for the mass market at all

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Originally Posted by Kobalt

They went for bling when other solutions would work and perform better. Chipset/PWM cooling comes to mind. No doubt its a nice PC, but they could have done better is all I'm saying. As someone going into engineering, I'm a critical person.

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you are right about cooling chipset with water

i don't like those Asus chipset fans
to me they are tooooooo loud lol

Looks like the cleanest oEM system I have ever seen.The case Aesthetics are decent but as usual this is all personal opinion.

The Asus MB ,Astek,FSP are at least brands we know as enthusiast and is a welcome changed to the propritiery or unmarked componets as of late.

Remember it is diffucult to decifer which brands are the best of the best with all of the user opinions around.

I like it, Put a DFI board in there an I would consider purchasing one.

dinos, very sage words.

I beta tested the Blackbird, and I was dying to show the XS forums, but was under NDA. I am a DIY guy, but this rig is probably the best prebuilt. If you consider that this is their first offering, then I think that this is a success.

Also, I tried to push a p35 chipset, but they were trying to limit their SKUs. Additionally I mentioned adding Crucial or TG to the ram list, and we'll see what happens their. This is a huge production as industrial design, marketing, business development, etc are involved. Lots of time and money went into this, and for the prebuilt community, I don't think you find a better machine.

Some of the cooler things are the airflow, and there are precut mobo holes. Additionally there is a sata backplane so no messing with cables on the HDs. It is a tad loud and I pressed for some Yate Loons or SilenX fans, but it wasn't happening.

When the site is up, you will be able to make some considerable configuration changes, and this is the midline model IIRC - if you want to DIY config a cheap model, and mod the :banana::banana::banana::banana: out of that thing. The drive trays alone make it worth it. :D When you see it in person, you'll grow quite fond of it.

I suppose it is easy to criticize mass produced stuff, but at least HP is thinking outside of the box because last time I checked Alienware, FNW, Hypersonic et al are still using platic alien heads, Temjin tj03s, and Lian Li non-modified rebadges for their cases respectively.

wow so you were a part of the project?

fantastic :clap:

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Originally Posted by dinos22

you are right about cooling chipset with water

i don't like those Asus chipset fans
to me they are tooooooo loud lol

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Heh...all chipset fans are too loud. I always slap a zalman nb heatsink on with a zip-tied 80mm fan blowing on it. Works real well and I never see temps above 45°C on my DFI.

Nice info flimflam... did you get to keep it :D?

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Originally Posted by Kobalt

Nice info flimflam... did you get to keep it :D?

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:ROTF: errr Mr. HP looks like i'm just gonna have to test this system for another 2-3 years if you don't mind :d

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Originally Posted by dinos22

wow so you were a part of the project?

fantastic :clap:

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Originally Posted by Kobalt

Heh...all chipset fans are too loud. I always slap a zalman nb heatsink on with a zip-tied 80mm fan blowing on it. Works real well and I never see temps above 45°C on my DFI.

Nice info flimflam... did you get to keep it :D?

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Hell no I did not get to keep it. It was used for the HP NYC media event on the 4th,5th, and 6th announcing their new rigs and technologies. One of teh Frags Dolls was showing it to the masses.

Thanks. I was just a beta tester but am not an HP employee...yet. They limited the cs to 680i because of the manual, tech support, etc. All that stuff is being hashed out, so when you look at all of the work to design, build, and market this project it is immense.

You have to give kudos to the young HP industrial designers - they have some whiz kids over there and HP labs is looking to incorporate their proprietary tech (they have lots of it) into their gaming business.

Also, if I wasn't such an entrenched New Yorker, I would be at Cupertino right now. If any of you guys are interested, HP/Voodoo have tons of job openings in the Gaming Business Division in Cupertino, CA, Calgary, and Taiwan. Might be a great opportunity for some of you guys. GO HERE and type "voodoo" or "gaming business unit."

Wait until you see what is coming out shortly...

nice case, but HP really needs to revamp their logo for their voodoo ventures...

Here is my beta unit next to my Temjin case. It was by one of my TVs just to load stuff. Chip, my cat, dug the Blackbird.

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The drives are vertical. The right side drive is the slot load. The drive on the left actually has a flip open door. The power and reset buttons are a bit whimpy, but the button housing is pretty sturdy.

Also, I got pretty decent temps and OCs during beta testing, but since my AC was out, my ambient was high. In fact, i was about butt nekkid when I was trying to push this thing to the limits.

I have some more testing pics, but I tried to limit them so as to not tempt myself to post them on here pre-launch thereby violating my NDA. Seemed to work.

Yet another Alienware tragedy story but now Voodoo falls by the way of the dodo but yet the price remains the same and sports the HP logo:down:

I wouldn't mind the case, just the case alone. Or, just the foot stand would be fine by me. Hawt case

http://www.rahulsood.com/2007/09/enter-blackbird.html

i used one tonight playing UT3 at the launch party celebrating HP/Vodoo's merger in NYC. The system looked nice but way overpriced...... good for those with lots of money and don't want to DIY. UT3 was running suprisingly bad on it though.... hopefully it was UT3 and not the hardware.

first look: nice!
second look: hmmmm
third look: mmmhh :/

overpriced and looks like so so built quality.
dont like the weird shape of the case...

Looks like a NZXT 1000W PSU

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Originally Posted by FlimFlam00

Some of the cooler things are the airflow, and there are precut mobo holes. Additionally there is a sata backplane so no messing with cables on the HDs. It is a tad loud and I pressed for some Yate Loons or SilenX fans, but it wasn't happening.

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The air flow is good enough they don't need a rear 120mm fan? Are the fans on the rad the ones that are loud or maybe the one mounted in the front?

I like it :)

Looks pretty good but a bit over priced i think.
I wish my Place of employment would get into the gaming market :(

yeah this is just HP copying Dell, they will soon lose the #1 spot in the PC market back to Dell again.

i do quite like the hovering design

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Originally Posted by Kenetixx

Looks pretty good but a bit over priced i think.
I wish my Place of employment would get into the gaming market :(

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i think your place of employment has some much nicer gear to drool over :D;) :D

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Originally Posted by irev210

FSP power supply (junk)

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Daveb2012

i love you man and i'm not ashamed to say it

inserts clip from one of the best movies and most watched movies in my household :D

Here's another review.

NF680 + HD2900 CF!

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Here's another review.

NF680 + HD2900 CF!

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If you're scratching your head at HP matching two ATI cards in CrossFire mode on an Nvidia NForce 680i SLI motherboard, we did too. We can confirm that it works, and even with older versions of ATI's Catalyst video drivers. Voodoo's Rahul Sood told us that he worked with ATI and Asus to make this cross-standard strategy possible. He wouldn't reveal exactly what changes were made, but the good news is your upgrade options are doubled due to this innovation, as this system now support both ATI's Crossfire and Nvidia's SLI dual-graphics cards.

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amd allows hp to build crossfire rigs on nvidia chipsets...:clap:

interesting sli on x38 next please oh and for the masses

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Originally Posted by black_edition

Is Asetek

http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?op...=412&Itemid=40

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Sorry, my mistake. Thanks for pointing that out on the brand.

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Originally Posted by Tibu

Since when exactly are FSP power supplies "junk"?

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Since OEM's like Zippy/Seasonic/Etasis etc, put out much higher quality PSU's.


On a 2500 dollar gaming computer... I would expect a good PSU.



If FSP unit was in a 250 dollar computer, I wouldnt catagorize the PSU as junk.

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Originally Posted by naokaji

amd allows hp to build crossfire rigs on nvidia chipsets...:clap:

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Now this is interesting. AFAIK, the board in this system is just a standard ASUS crosshair, right? So the can't have changed anything with regards to hardware. Also, they can't have modded the drivers, as that would mean compatibility could be broken with new driver releases. so I guess that means... *anyone got a PLCC extractor handy?*

I... like it!
Looks almost like a server haha.

I dont like oem computers, but DAMN that looks sexy!

hmmmmmm my gf's dad works for HP, I wonder what kind of discount he could get on that?

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Now this is interesting. AFAIK, the board in this system is just a standard ASUS crosshair, right? So the can't have changed anything with regards to hardware. Also, they can't have modded the drivers, as that would mean compatibility could be broken with new driver releases. so I guess that means... *anyone got a PLCC extractor handy?*

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It's a standard striker and voodoo/hp got asus and ati to make it work, and all the hardware is off the shelf parts (other then the case of course).

It's impressive.

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Originally Posted by crash5s

It's a standard striker and voodoo/hp got asus and ati to make it work, and all the hardware is off the shelf parts (other then the case of course).

It's impressive.

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i want one just because :)

best looking overpriced piece of junk ive seen yet, jk, it looks nice and i guess it runs ok, but i like the look of the case a lot compared to the old cases :D nice job hp, now just get your prices down a bit and i might respect you more :p:

Sorry but hp/voodoo does not seem to breath the words performance in my book because I got me a DIY/BE that will kick the living crap out of that overpriced vanity fair:D

Added Video Review on first page

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Originally Posted by dinos22

you are right about cooling chipset with water

i don't like those Asus chipset fans
to me they are tooooooo loud lol

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Wouldn't that just dump heat into an already stressed cooling system?

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Originally Posted by irev210

Since OEM's like Zippy/Seasonic/Etasis etc, put out much higher quality PSU's.

On a 2500 dollar gaming computer... I would expect a good PSU.

If FSP unit was in a 250 dollar computer, I wouldnt catagorize the PSU as junk.

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You must've missed the fact that FSP has actually started to pay more attention to the retail market and been marking some very nice high-end PSUs for some time now.
The Blue Storm series for once is of very nice quality and comes at a surprisingly low price.
It's not junk even when you compare them to the very nice PSUs made by e.g. Zippy. FSP is the world's largest PSU manufacturer, they have the skills to make to make really good PSUs.

//Andreas

hmm, on second thought, the high-end dell xps looks better than this thing. it has a 3.5ghz kentsfield, cooled by water and a tec.

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hmm, on second thought, the high-end dell xps looks better than this thing. it has a 3.5ghz kentsfield, cooled by water and a tec.

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Except the HP looks to be much more upgradeable. Dell uses a BTX mobo layout and a variety of proprietary mobo connectors so you can't swap in a new retail board. Also, the Dell bios provides no overclocking or tuning adjustments other than a choice of multipliers. The HP OTOH seems like it will have the full Asus Striker bios.

1. Looks amazing
2. HDD Calbleless design, great innovation
3. Case us ****ing AMAZING!
4. With some good marketing, this computer will sell like crazy

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Originally Posted by naokaji

amd allows hp to build crossfire rigs on nvidia chipsets...:clap:

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also there's some info here
http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=42213

Definitely not for the majority of this site's members, but as the offspring of HP/Voodoo, it could have been much worse. If a casemodder here built something like this, we'd be giving him some serious props. HP might do well to make the case available seperately (sexy hard drive enclosures included:D ), although they'd probably be more concerned about diluting novelty of the product.

And as far as the Dell system is concerned, if someone on this site went to the trouble of using sub-ambient cooling on their quad core, got it up to 3.46 GHz, and then said "That's it, that's the final product"... at the very least, we'd be a little disappointed.

Yeah in terms of performance and a far less restrictive bios, as well as the use of standard parts you can replace as you see fit over time, the HP beats Dell silly.

Concerns:
for air cooled gpu's I don't the the airflow is good enough for them
the hd's also look a bit less than adequately cooled


It's a great start however, far better than Dell's first models. And HP has the wisdom to use parts we can recognize as at least being minimum enthusiast grade rather than hiding the makers. The floating design is nice, but I'd have made YL's standard and improved the active airflow somewhat.

Very good first shot though. I'm assuming price will get better as they get better at doing this. For now it's just a premier showcase piece rather than made for the masses.

Though CNET reviews are generalized, they are good for mass consumer products like dig cams, gps units, etc. Nonetheless, the CNET Blackbird review is pretty impressive.

Here you can find some nice pictures: http://www.pcgameshardware.de/?article_id=612444 Just click on one of the pictures!

Plus another article: http://www.custompc.co.uk/news/60127...therboard.html

Wow, are they going to sell that case alone?

Wonder how long until some companies make clones of it.

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Wow, are they going to sell that case alone?

Wonder how long until some companies make clones of it.

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I hope they make clones of it... specially, the Hard drive mounting :)

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Originally Posted by sladesurfer

I hope they make clones of it... specially, the Hard drive mounting :)

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Yes, I believe it has the BEST HD mounting system, bar none...better than the Cosmos!!!! :shocked:

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Originally Posted by Envydia007

noobs with lots of money will buy this.

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Noobs who can't simply buy a nice, good bang for the buck build.

I must admit, I LOVVVVE the case.
But, the acutal components?

Reminds me of this kid in my class
He told me he got a 9,000 dollar computer, thinking it would make him cool.
It was a Dell.

I told him mine was 1,500, and twice the power, and he simply said
"Cool, it must have Windows Vista and all that good stuff on it for gaming, right?"

I like the case, but the rest is harsh, and any attempt at high-end PCs from a manufacture just seems like a lot of money to me.

whooo! 6000dollarcomputersarestillsucceptabletoTYPOs!

http://h20435.www2.hp.com/#/modification/

bottom right corner. Quote: "2666Ghz-3333mhz". So proud.

Thought i'd add some more hillarious bull****.

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HP is the fifth-largest patent holder in the world with the help of HP Labs, a research and development organization founded in 1966 with one mandate: Push the boundaries of technology in every direction possible. Built from the best ideas in the world, the HP Blackbird 002 PC represents HP's drive to maximize the potential of cutting-edge PC technology and bring it to users as quickly as possible.


The Goosebump List

Development on what would come to be known as the Blackbird 002 began in the fall of 2004. It all started with the "goosebump list" – two dozen HP Labs innovations that were so exciting that they literally caused the hairs on the designers' arms to stand up. Most of these innovations were never specifically designed for gaming, but thanks to a design team made up of passionate gamers, their potential was soon realized.
The Next Bench

HP Labs' Next Bench philosophy produces some of the greatest technology in the world. Instead of having an engineer design something and then hand it down to his assistants for further refinement, one of HP Labs' top engineers will design something and then pass it along to the "next bench," another top engineer who will find ways to improve upon the design before passing it along to the next bench, and so on. The result is the top technical minds in the world working independently toward the same goal.


Dedication By Design

Despite the fact that it was a top-secret project, word started to leak out internally about the Blackbird's development to an immediate and overwhelming response. The Blackbird became the project to work on. Engineers fought to be a part of it. HP engineers from other departments dedicated their own time after hours to help out wherever they could, and more than half a dozen new gaming product patents resulted from the development process. The Blackbird isn't just a piece of technology designed by the finest minds on the planet, it's a testament to the devotion of its passionate designers.
Voodoo DNA

When HP acquired VoodooPC in the fall of 2006, the visionaries behind Voodoo’s PCs became the next "next bench," with every HP Labs innovation at their disposal. HP already had a prototype of its gaming system, which was called the 001. An infusion of Voodoo DNA resulted in several further improvements to the 001, from innovative wiring solutions to component selection to meticulous performance tuning, and it has the benchmarks to prove it. The end result of the collaboration is the HP Blackbird 002 PC, the perfect fusion of HP innovation and Voodoo PC building techniques.
HP Gaming Council

The HP Gaming Council is a cadre of gamers who move among the gaming community incognito, gathering feedback on what gamers really want in a PC. Members must have built their own PC and be thoroughly immersed in gaming culture. Each member serves a six-month term, ensuring that there's always a fresh perspective at the table. From the very beginning, every aspect of the Blackbird has been thoroughly vetted by those who want nothing less than the ultimate high-performance PC.

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this priceless paragraph:

Despite the fact that it was a top-secret project, word started to leak out internally about the Blackbird's development to an immediate and overwhelming response. The Blackbird became the project to work on. Engineers fought to be a part of it. HP engineers from other departments dedicated their own time after hours to help out wherever they could, and more than half a dozen new gaming product patents resulted from the development process. The Blackbird isn't just a piece of technology designed by the finest minds on the planet, it's a testament to the devotion of its passionate designers.


I Positively love it.

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whooo! 6000dollarcomputersarestillsucceptabletoTYPOs!

http://h20435.www2.hp.com/#/modification/

bottom right corner. Quote: "2666Ghz-3333mhz". So proud.

Thought i'd add some more hillarious bull****.

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this priceless paragraph:

Despite the fact that it was a top-secret project, word started to leak out internally about the Blackbird's development to an immediate and overwhelming response. The Blackbird became the project to work on. Engineers fought to be a part of it. HP engineers from other departments dedicated their own time after hours to help out wherever they could, and more than half a dozen new gaming product patents resulted from the development process. The Blackbird isn't just a piece of technology designed by the finest minds on the planet, it's a testament to the devotion of its passionate designers.


I Positively love it.

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Holy crap $6,000! I can do dual 3.0ghz Clovers, 8GB of RAM, an 8800 Ultra, and a 37 inch 1080p TV for that :shocked:

the price is to high, the hardware inside isnt what i would have put inside.

But damn that case looks sexeh.

mostly its shape and the foot thing.

HP's having a New Year's deal on it:

$2,399.00USD* with liquid cooling with mid-range products -- lets estimate the cost (based on a popular shall-not-be-named web retailer):

$190 Dual Core - Intel(R) Core2(TM) Duo 2.66GHz E6750
$37 2 GB 800 MHz CORSAIR PC2-6400 DDR2 SDRAM (after rebate)
$150 CPU Liquid cooling (just guessing for the Asetek equivalent)
$300 ASUS Striker Extreme 680i (supports SLI and Crossfire)
$250 NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GT, with 512MB of GDDR3 SDRAM
$200 900 Watt Power Supply
$90 320GB 7200rpm SATA
$40 Super multi-drive, slim slots with Lightscribe (DVD+/-R/RW+/-DL)
$40 Voodoo Mouse by Razer
$40 Voodoo Keyboard by Razer

$300 Microsoft(R) Windows Vista(TM) Ultimate ($180 for OEM)
$40 DVD software suite
$500 Dead-sexy case (at least I'd pay for this case)

$2177 without tax and shipping, about $2000 if it's an OEM Vista Ultimate -- not too shabby IMHO

Tom's just put up their review:

http://www.tomsgames.com/us/2008/01/...ckbird_review/

What I don't get is the statement "superior nforce chipset". From everything I have read on this forum, the 680i seems to be the inferior choice. The only reason they sell is because nvidia locked down SLI. Now they went to effort to get ATI cf working on the asus 680i board which I have seen nothing but complaints about and experienced firsathand (I had to RMA my striker extreme). If the intel x38 is the better choice for cf, what is the rationale behind making cf work on the striker? Is there any driving techincal reasoning behind this?

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"We felt that Nforce is the best chipset, so we found a way [to enable Crossfire on the motherboard]."

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What does nforce do that intel doesn't?

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Tom's just put up their review:

http://www.tomsgames.com/us/2008/01/...ckbird_review/

What I don't get is the statement "superior nforce chipset". From everything I have read on this forum, the 680i seems to be the inferior choice. The only reason they sell is because nvidia locked down SLI. Now they went to effort to get ATI cf working on the asus 680i board which I have seen nothing but complaints about and experienced firsathand (I had to RMA my striker extreme). If the intel x38 is the better choice for cf, what is the rationale behind making cf work on the striker? Is there any driving techincal reasoning behind this?



What does nforce do that intel doesn't?

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He's just talking bull. They wanted a single system which they could use for both CF and SLI. This forced them to use 680i as there are no other chipset supporting SLI, while CF can be "hacked" to run on any chipset.

In reality, Intel chipsets supports SLI too, they're just locked out by NVIDIA.

680i is a great way of getting confused, mad and generally upset, but if he actually believes what he's saying he should have his head examined.

//Andreas

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looks like that can play crysis well

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I don't think it's fast enough yet. LMAO. Crysis will never be played well.

- Ok, it will, but not for another year or 2. By then everyone will be playing farcry 2 instead.

That compy looks amazing, but it is over-priced.

However, its a step in the right direction, and good that maybe everyone who wants a pre-built gaming PC won't buy crappy alienware PC's now

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Originally Posted by dinos22

looks nice :D

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werd. The case itself is sexy! :cool:

I think 8800gts 512 sli would of been a better choice because it wouldn't put out as much heat as the gtx's.

12 months ago (before I found XS) I would've lapped that thing up...
Sad really...:shakes:

Well there are dudes out there that has no time to call their kids or even call their wifes to say happy birthday. Meanwhile where the hell will they buy the time to build a pc. Oh i forgot some are still using a cd-roms cos they can´t install their new dvd-roms. And one happens to be my ex-colleague and i bet you he will order it without giving it a second thot:ROTF: .