okay,my new rig is coming closer,and i'm already pretty sure on everything,except for the mobo.So i made a little poll to see what mobo gets the most votes to make my choice a bit easier
tnx in advance guys
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okay,my new rig is coming closer,and i'm already pretty sure on everything,except for the mobo.So i made a little poll to see what mobo gets the most votes to make my choice a bit easier
tnx in advance guys
my vote goes for p5k deluxe, it's a fantastic board..
P35-DQ6 ftw!
same here:up:Quote:
Originally Posted by Solarfall
it's not fair IP-35 PRO is cheapest one.
is maybe the cheapest one,but i already read some nice reviews about it so...;)Quote:
Originally Posted by TEDY
untill now:4 votes for Gigabyte and Asus and 5 for the Abit:cool:
For a bit less you can get the Asus P5K-E Wi-Fi which OCs very well too :)
P5K DLX works fab for me....
+ 1 GA P35 DQ6Quote:
Originally Posted by lowfat
P5K, Gigabyte boards are highly ironic that they have massive sinks of them but don't actually overclock any better.
Which is then more ironic being as they loosen up the northbridge more than other boards to scale higher.
With the finding that you can change strap performance level - it seems Asus are being first to the table to implement it into the bios, but ASUS' latest bios was their slowest because of people asking for more FSB :rolleyes:
P5K DLX working great real pleased with the board
P5K Deluxe...didnt impress me at all...
VCore is capped at 1.7 and you cant directly adjust the DDR2 to the exact speed that you want instead it uses dividers so you are limited in your options.
I wish the bios settings were like the 680i but with the BearLake performance
ip35-pro 170€
p5k dlx 220€
here
so it's no fair comparision.
What do you mean it is no fair? Both have different features, not just because of P35.Quote:
Originally Posted by TEDY
in term of price.
Ehh? HTH would price make it "unfair"? :rolleyes: That's the point, pal.Quote:
Originally Posted by TEDY
He's asking for the best P35 mobo out there - vote for one or the other. I voted for the Abit IP35 Pro and the reason was *exactly* what you think is "unfair": it's head-to-head with P5K Deluxe (sans the largely worthless WiFi), IMO has a slightly better layout, it consumes 30-40W *LESS* (in idle!) than the Asus one yet it starts around $160-170 online.
And I'd say you can replace "P5K Deluxe" in my sentences with "P35-DQ6" too (except power consumption as Gigabyte is just as good as Abit if not better).
This is a great poll, seeing as I am thinking about buying a new motherboard and a Q6600 to go along with it. But I was having a hard time deciding between the DLX or the DQ6 but now I think I am going to buy the P5K when I get the cash.
P5K got my vote, Great board.
none from this poll: MSI p35
Without a doubt, the IP35 PRO ;)
Do you own a P35 board i think you have no clue what you are talking about... performance is on par with 965 and 680i chipset but overclocks aswell with less heat from the chipsets, plus great quad overclockability... and a lesser price then 680IQuote:
Originally Posted by Mekrel
more then 50% of teh voters,voted for the P5K deluxe...so that has to mean something,lol...
Tnx anyways for all the people who took the time to vote,this is highly appreciated:up:
DQ6 roxx :D
Quote:
Originally Posted by bloodbanger
Yeah it's means they currently own the P5KD and are happy with it ;)
However, It would be interesting to run this poll in a month or two to give the Abit IP35 Pro time to mature as it's been on the market the least amount of time of all three.
wish asus would ditch the onboard wifiap
:up: however i have the P35-DS3PQuote:
Originally Posted by lowfat
I concur!Quote:
Originally Posted by JPxM0Dz
Where in my post did I say P35 was not a performer? I didn't even mention the word P35. Yes I own a P35 motherboard, it's what is pictured in my avatar. The thing is, I didn't even mention 680i either - what post are you reading, because it isn't mine?Quote:
Originally Posted by Leeghoofd
I recommended the Asus P5K because Gigabyte boards are highly ironic that they have massive sinks of them but don't actually overclock any better. Which is then more ironic being as they loosen up the northbridge more than other boards to scale higher.
Gigabyte loosen their P35 boards chipset strap to performance level 10 at 417FSB, I'm sure you can find this information in Stilts thread about memset and changing bearlake performance. This is backed up by Pedro's thread on the Gigabyte board where his SuperPI scores were slow for the overclock obtained.
The latest Asus bios' for both P5K DLX and P5K3 have chipset performance level changes. Yet there are also the latest bios that have made performance drop because of loosening internal latencies according to bingo13 and eva2000 as the end users are only concerned for FSB, and not the sweet point of finding the fastest optimum.
No where in my post did I say anything about P35 in general, only the boards in question and as to why I believe the P5K and IP35-Pro are the best choices. I obviously like the P35 platform, hence owning a board myself.
If you reread your first post you might see that it's not so clear as the point you are making now hence my (maybe a bit too agressive ) post as I didn't agree at all :
P5K, Gigabyte boards are highly ironic that they have massive sinks of them but don't actually overclock any better. --> await some bios updates for the latter they will get there...
Which is then more ironic being as they loosen up the northbridge more than other boards to scale higher. --> new biosses indeed give this stuff...
If I read this ( and yes I'm a foreigner ) I read between the lines that you don't like neither board...nor the chipset as it has looser latencies to boost overall FSB, not necesarrily indicating better performance....hence favouring another chipset....
No need to go bananas or try to go literate on me...only thing you can do is bite my head off and I'm pretty sure I don't taste good...
Well I flew off the handle for the response and for that, I apologise.
Post also edited, to not be so much of a jerk.
I don't see how this poll data is worth anything unless everyone who votes has compared all three in person.
I do love the p5k-dlx but I can't be sure that it's better than the gigabyte or abit.
True to some extent, but I think if you read the threads (which I did when I wanted to know which board to get) you do get an idea of where the boards are strong, and where others aren't so.Quote:
Originally Posted by mrcape
GA P35 DQ6! It's simply got the extra measure of build quality, top components, and superior cooling that you don't see in most other boards.
2 more votes here for the Asus P5K Deluxe! (Brother's and mine)
well if you were to ask me neather one of those boards I will take p35c ds3r
Thats one of the reasons I'm getting one... I love the wifi.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lome
Another vote for the P5K Del, hasn't skipped a beat since I bought it and overclocks like a mo-fo.
hmm doesnt overclock any better ? i thought dq6 allways needed less vcore on cpu's for same results then other boards do. and the bearlake board seem to make no diffenrence there.
what i noticed is that the asus board gets very hot with stock heatsink. thats what dq6 really wouldnt. so please dont flame gigabyte heatsinks.
When you look at these numbers found here >>> http://www.abit.com.tw/page/en/news/...CNO=en_0707041
The poll results in this thread are not very suprising ;)
I think it's more because of Abit's recent history with their bad BIOS's and failure to support their products. A lot of people that got burned don't want to give Abit another chance. The IP35 Pro is, in my opinion, the best board out right now. The shipping BIOS has 0 issues for me. Everything works as advertised and it runs a lot cooler than the Asus. On top of all that, Abit has already released 2 beta BIOS's increasing performance even more. Abit has a winner with this board... brings me back to the NF7-S days :D I would be willing to bet that if you put one of these Abit boards in the hand's of one of those Gigabyte or Asus owners, the polls may turn.Quote:
Originally Posted by JPxM0Dz
probably because I imagine that it's heavily based on experience gained with the QuadGT.Quote:
Originally Posted by derektm
Tbh I don't think that at least Asus support is any better & in many ways is probably worse.
once Lvcoyote get's it hosted abit forums should also have the B03 BIOS as well as Fugger's link.
http://www.lvcoyote.com/M629B_11.B03.zip
It's all down to quality control though with reports of heat.Quote:
Originally Posted by BAR*B*Q
I've heard people say the P5K is hot, and others who have said it isn't but it could depend on the end users air ventilation.
Someone on this forum IIRC hasn't long made a post about their Gigabyte board being hot to them.
As for the Gigabyte boards needed less vcore, I've never read about that. The P5K is definitely the better memory tweaker out of the Gigabyte and P5K - just read eva2000's experience with it.
A lot of people will have voted on this thread based on previous experience with the vendor.
I'd never pick Asus because (for me) they have a history of flaky series of boards (namely the higher end boards, the cheap stuff seems to be more consistent), lousy online server and horrible RMA service unless you are lucky and by accident get a (used) board that works on the first RMA. And I can't count how many boards I had that basically worked but showed one or more of sometimes not posting, sometimes hanging on heavy disk I/O, sometimes not doing a soft reboot (warm start), work fine with 2 DIMMs but not 4 and so on. And to top it off they want more money. Right.
I hated Abit even before recent messes because of their stupid uGuru chip that is vastly insufficiently supported by software, and that includes Windows.
Gigabyte? I know some people hate them for non-support. But I had several boards that never broke and never required support. They have solid caps on $100 boards and a working website. Plus the DS3 just works with everything, including crazy RAM combinations that made my BadAxe bail out. Sure, they don't have a 975x board but hey at some point I just take a working board.
So who voted on this poll after having all three boards in their hands? Maybe a new poll question? ;)
Well i can state one thing for sure.
My gigabyte P35 managed to crush the wall my 680i had.
ON my X3220 i could only pull off 375fsb. Anything after that to 401fsb was impossible to turn on. After 400fsb, i had to drop major amounts of voltage for it to boot and run fine.
Then i got my P35, and she goes all the way up to 470x8 without skipping a heart beat.
So dont include the 680i. Its absolute CRAP when you compare it to a the bearlake platforms.
I have had my P5k Deluxe now for a week or two and I love it. The overclocking options are very nice and I'd recommend it to anybody.
I have the abit ip35 pro and it has done me good so far. No issues and this new beta bios is really rockin. My cpu is limited to 540fsb but the mobo will do it no problem and oc's ram really well also.
P35 power consumption compared, for all that it's worth.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mekrel
http://www.techreport.com/reviews/20.../index.x?pg=16
The heatsinks from P35-DS4/DQ6 sucks:( My Ninja is giving worse temperatures then my 9500 Zalman(when Ninja beat's Zalman) and to put the Ninja in place is a pain in the ass due to the grabber's Ninja has almost not fitting due to de heatsink:( even with all this copper my NB sensor says it goes to 50ºC when in load(even tough my sistem doens't get's slower by the temperature neither has stability problem's)
My P35-DQ6 needed much less vcore than my 965P-DS3, infact 0.05v less. ~1.43 compared to ~1.48 for a 3.5GHz overclock of my E6300. The MCH on the 965P board got really cooking even with an NC-U6 on it and +.1v only, I can say that with my 100% over clock and +.1v on the P35 MCH most of the fins are still cool to the touch... and that is without a CPU fan.Quote:
Originally Posted by BAR*B*Q
I wouldn't mind trying an ASUS board, but until I do I've been converted from Abit to a Gigabyte user... Gigabyte has been exemplary with their BIOS support on their 965P boards, and so far they seem to be aiming for the same with the new ones. I'm plenty happy with my P35-DQ6.
well the past 3 motherboards ive had have died prematurely - the last one being a dfi.
evrything else ive had seems to last ages...
my point is which board is likely to last the longest without some onboard component croaking (ie. dieing/giving up the ghost/burning out)?
they are all bits o crappy pcb and will be yesterday's news in 6 months or less, as could be said of most mobo's.
if i get a hold of one it will be dead in 2 yrs or less :lol:
i spose its just the nature of mobo's they have so many diff components that can fizzle.
u should've put p5k vanilla on there too.
I concur. The instant Abit started with the proprietary chip without any public hooks, I looked elsewhere for enthusiast parts. I liken it to the current M$ Halo2+Vista fiasco.Quote:
Originally Posted by uOpt
& yet I miss uGuru whenever I use a board without it - it's imo the best hardware monitoring/fan control solution from any mobo mfr & the user presets are nice for quickly switching been e.g. an underclocked & quiet browsing setup, an overclocked & somewhat noisier gaming profile etc. etc.
Not to mention of course that not all abit mobos have it or that some of the Linux guys reverse engineered it.
And what is the best and cheapest? Giga p35-s3, Asus p5k vanilla or Abit ip35? Or something else?
The poll data only shows who bought what, brand loyalty, no big deal. All I can get out of this thread is that they're probably all good. How about some comparison data that tests each board with the same components?
I read about twenty threads stroking the DFI Dark before it came out and it turned out to be a noisy POS. Even if that thing farted clouds of mustard gas the fanboys would have denied it.
Which is a pretty wrong comparison as uGuru would still work without Windows unlike Halo2 (or Shadowrun, for that matter) without Vista.;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Paladin
PS: However we must note that uGuru always had Windows drivers so it's nothing like proprietary chip without drivers.
:rofl:Quote:
Originally Posted by mrcape
Is there any p35 board that supports 2 x8 pci-e for crossfire? All the ones i've seen are 1 x16 and 1 x4 :(
Here in the UK the cheapest P35 that I've seen is the IP35-E with the S3 a few pounds dearer, P5K is noticeably dearer.Quote:
Originally Posted by joshua7
Only thing "wrong" with the IP35-E appears to be this double boot behaviour which I'm currently trying to find out why that does it & yet the Pro doesn't seem to :confused:
Quote:
Originally Posted by mrcape
Motherboard Roundup...
http://www.driverheaven.net/reviews/p35moboroundup/
http://www.neoseeker.com/resourcelink.html?rid=140137
http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/2007/0..._uk/index.html
Asus have 2 coming that use a special chip to reconfigure the lanes but they aren't going to be cheap ...Quote:
Originally Posted by Termite617
Asus R.O.G. boards, with their Crosslinx chip onboard:Quote:
Originally Posted by Termite617
http://www.hothardware.com/Articles/...2600Pro_Card_/
http://www.techpowerup.com/index.php?31835
http://www.nordichardware.com/index....n=more&id=6430
Preview results:
http://www.clockmehigh.com/TestingAt...THOS_Final.png
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/....php?p=2286568
Though I was looking for the same but I realized it doesn't worth jack:banana::banana::banana::banana: with X38 coming in 1-2 months...
Also early reports weren't so fab of that Crosslinx chip, it doesn't deliver (yet) also what difference do peeps expect when all board manufacturers use the same chipsets, it's only in the (bios)tweaking, overclocking department that some differences matter in picking a board... same results as when they did a comparison of the 965 and 680i chipsets, there's never a clear winner...
Everybody likes his brand, colours, layout, gimmicks and choices are not solely based on performance, any of these boards deliver to get your cpu up to insane speeds, it's the bios, tech support that counts when some bugs need to be ironed out...
MSI P35 Diamond FTW
World E6700 Ocing Record Baby.
P35-dq6!
P35-DQ6 :up:
This Board rocks :yepp:
My S775 History:
Abit AW9D-Max
ASUS P5W-DH Deluxe
DFI Infinity P965-S
Asus Striker Extreme ROG
Gigabyte P35-DQ6
greetz
tim
Is there an issue putting an 8800GTX in the top most PCIe slot in terms of hitting the NB HS "Silent Pipe" on the Gigabyte GA-P35-DQ6?
vote for IP35 Pro
Has anyone here had experience with the Ds3p p35 ? I have one on its way and it seems very close to the Dq6. I wish I could buy both and do a comparison lol... but for 150... I hope its good!
Works just fine on mine. Hasn't dropped the connection at all. Actually I get excellent speed all of the time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lome
The problem with the 965-s wasnt really the board, its the people who bought them.... There's really only one reason to buy that board, because of its performance.... If you want quiet, headache free, stable, easy to use blah blah blah then there's alot better 965 boards out there..... But if you want all out performance then only the Quad Gt can compare in P965 chipset.....Quote:
Originally Posted by mrcape
Its like buying a Porche 911 GT3 and saying its too loud and the ride is too stiff..... :rolleyes:
and the P35-DQ6 leads in the majority of those in overclocking :)Quote:
Originally Posted by JPxM0Dz
Quote:
Originally Posted by lowfat
Concidering the performance difference between the DQ6 and the IP35 Pro, those numbers hardly justify the huge price difference :kissbutt: :shocked:
Once the IP35 Pro has time to mature with BIOS updates, performance gains should also follow :up:
No, sorry it's more like a '77 Firebird with Nitris.Quote:
Originally Posted by luihed
I noticed there is a $20 rebate at Fry's for the Pro board. I dont like rebates but I wont reject money back that I wasnt expecting.
ditto about those rebates!...so darn long to get your money back and that is if you mail in the rebate coupon.
yes, asus reigns but you pay $50-75 more for the same performance that can be had from Abit's IP35 Pro!
why pay more for anus board lol
G80 cards fit just fine on this board with the silent pipe cooling installed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Burner27
more than 50% of the voters,voted for the Asus board...I wanna say tnx to all,who took the time to vote,and making my decision a lot easier...I'm gonna be happy as a child when finally rig is in his place,and my e-peen grows a lot bigger,lol
DH's table is screwed up - Abit has the much better optical out and IN config, not the idiotic 2 flavor of outputs (a' la Asus or others) as they list it.Quote:
Originally Posted by JPxM0Dz
Also I don't get that 'supported FSB' - you can't key in higher or what?
[quote]
http://www.neoseeker.com/resourcelink.html?rid=140137
This is orig link at The Tech Report: http://techreport.com/reviews/2007q2...s/index.x?pg=1
Fixed it for you...:ROTF:Quote:
Originally Posted by Nasgul
Heres my GB GA-P35 DQ6 in a quick test and with total untweaked OS, so i vote för gigabyte :)
http://bandwidth.se/images/1535.jpg
http://bandwidth.se/images/1536.jpg
http://bandwidth.se/images/1537.jpg
so it's promising for quads and i'm sure i will get higher klocks with it..
i still believe that the gigabytes p35DQ6 is still too much money..
Yet seeing so many ppl having problems with their P5K deluxe makes me upset actually.
I was planning on buying this board.. Looks like. I might have to fork out the extra bling and get the gigabyte :(
Can you do super pi at 3.6ghz?Quote:
Originally Posted by chefnr1
Edited for stupidity...got my hair bleached earlier...the blonde must be getting to me!! I had 3.2 on the mind. Still interested in seeing 3.6 tho.
what problems with p5k dlx?Quote:
Originally Posted by michaLcoughliN
++ for gigabyte
apparently ppl ahving problems with bios / raid issues. etc etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by TEDY
errr :@
Although I am a bit of an Abit fan, having read many a review and round up - I've decided to buy a DQ6, hope I'm not going to be disappointed :)
have not a screen at 3600 only this with very loose timings.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bigchrome
http://bandwidth.se/images/1605.jpg
And this with a E6850
http://bandwidth.se/imgs/nouser/515spi515c5455.jpg
And this one 05 bench on air
http://bandwidth.se/imgs/nouser/05cpuz27644768b672.jpg
and this little one.
http://bandwidth.se/imgs/nouser/475spi473f85c3.jpg
Dfi
2 months.dead thread comes back alive LoL.