Is it PCP&C or OCZ for power supplies? well the debate is over;)
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Is it PCP&C or OCZ for power supplies? well the debate is over;)
http://ocz.com/
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hahahah!
That was why OCZ.com was down for a bit :D
mmm... now why didn't Joe send me one of these as well :p:
hmm...i guess that is good for us?
Ohhh Snap.
Merger or Buyout?
Bought, OCZ purchased PCP&CQuote:
Originally Posted by J-Mag
Woo-hoo! Nice one OCZ! How much was it? :D
So what becomes of their brand image... keep it? Dude... you can totally force them to make modular PSUs now.
Is it PCP&C or OCZ for power supplies? well the debate is over
was it a debate? lol
Glad to hear, this was a REALLY smart move for OCZ.
PCP&C units will still be branded as PCP&C, they will not change to OCZ branded power supplies.Quote:
Originally Posted by quicksilverXP
Will PCP&C's OEM make OCZ PSUs now, or will PCP&C just remain a separate entity?Quote:
Originally Posted by RyderOCZ
wait for the official press release
Congrats...hmmm...to sticky or not to sticky...that is the question...
Lets wait for official press release for that too :p
Nice to see the deal went through Tony...good stuff :D
Perkam
Good choice, previous partners Topower and FSP were not as good :)
One quick Q.
will you basically just be lab belling your PCP&C units as the utra-highend units and leave your other series as is?
I mean no offense to OCz you guys had kickass units before and I'd have been happy to use one in my rig, but PCP&C had a better product. Doesn't matter now though since OCz basically just OWNED PCP&C
Hehe so true, PCP&C rules! I agree it is a really really smart move! :D :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by irev210
But please don't let them make the stupid hyped power supply's with 20x 5A @12Volt.. else we lost another great company.
My birthday's coming up !!! And I need those pink tutus !!! :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by J-Mag
Wow. One re-branding company buys another re-branding company! :rolleyes:
very important question imhoQuote:
Originally Posted by [XC] Lead Head
Cool...I haven't had a chance to edit posts in a while !!! NICE :D
Though I have recommended silverstone many-a-time, I have never shown bias towards their units in price/wattage ranges where better offerings were available.
They just happened to be a PSU maker that updates their product line faster than others, which I admire in a company.
There's a reason I have a gamexstream 700w and a powerstream 520w at home, one is testament to their amazing community involvement, and the other: to the durability of their products.
Perkam
Yeah, I thought both companies use Seasonic PSU's?Quote:
Originally Posted by SturmoV
edit: Maybe that's just PCP&C
OCZ will continue to make OCZ powersupplies, PCP&C will continuue to make PCP&C power supplies.
Sorry perkam, I have an innate habit of insulting mods. Happens if i don't take my medication.
Now I want OCZ to put out an official statement saying they are GOING To ENSURE the Continued HIGH QUALITY of the PCP&C Power Supplies...
Remember a Great PSU that costs $150 is better than a good PSU that Costs $100
To my knowledge FSP makes OCZ PSUs.Quote:
Originally Posted by Repoman
Official PR is up: http://www.ocztechnology.com/aboutocz/press/2007/222
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Originally Posted by nn_step
:rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Tony
Maybe now PCP&C will actually be available in Europe, yes?
:stick:
edit:
:woot:Quote:
Under the OCZ Technology Group, PC Power & Cooling products will gain the exposure of the established OCZ global channel, maximizing the availability of the reputable line to customers everywhere.
Will OCZ be utilizing the PCP&C storefront here in CA with other products avail to purchase? PCP&C is literally 15 mins away from me!
thats the planQuote:
Originally Posted by largon
the store remains as isQuote:
Originally Posted by Haltech
Great move. When you build an empire add the best.:clap:
I noticed that but I am hoping that No OCZ management try to make changes to the PCP&C manufacturing Quality for the sake of lower Price.Quote:
Originally Posted by RyderOCZ
Forgive me if I seem Anal retentive about this but a long and happy history with PCP&C makes me want to make sure that line of wonderful (abeit sometimes loud) history continues
Wow this is great news! I don't think anyone could do a better job of taking care of PowerPC & Cooling and their products than OCZ.
Woohooo!
Sorry if I sound like an OCZ fan. Because I am :D
Wow!
why wasnt this sent to my email first, RyderOCZ???
huh huh
... And I always considered: Zippy, Enermax, SilverStone as better PSU's then both, but hell, thats just my oppinion ;)
Zippy is excellent, Enermax is what I consider middle of the road and I've never owned Silverstone but hear good things about them.Quote:
Originally Posted by M.Beier
Also just my opinion:D
U're growing larger... Congrats! :clap:
Hope this will turn out to be a good move for both parts...
I just want ryder to read my emails, i dont care who makes the PSU's :lol:
Read this and you will know who's the best :)
You know, vBulletin does have a "merge thread" function. ;)
Well.. based only upon my personal experience and opinion... But thanks. I'm flattered.Quote:
Originally Posted by kiwi
I am not too excited just yet. Companies focus on profit, cheaper product
with a higher margin of profit. OCZ was not the epitomy of high quality PSU's,
there was no debate to begin with, PCP&C always won hands down(ok that's subjective but when we're talking about the highest quality product at least).
OCZ is more of a marketing hype brand, using marketing hype antics and
slogans. I just hope the quality of PCP&C does not go down while the high
prices maintain.
I wish all you guys would read what i post, and please read the official PR
For me silence is as important as performance, so I'm hoping we will see PC P+C become OCZ's extra premium brand, with no compromise build quality on a range of units from silent psu's for single card systems, to the crazy overspecced beasts they already turn out.
Would it be reasonable to ask that today is OCZ's day to crow and a little class here would help.
It's a smart move and they made it.Let them at least enjoy the damned day without being slammed.
My Father used to say " If you don't have anything nice to say, maybe you should just say nothing"
Company makes a great move and people want to pick them apart like a bunch of bored old ladies telling stories about the neighbors..
At least give them the chance to show you what they are going to do before you condemn them out of hand!
noone here has been "slamming" OCz. We know that for the most part they make top tiered products, and everyone is just saying that their new acquisition pretty much puts them at the absolute top without a doubt. Even their "lowend" stuff is better than the garbage in pretty much every OEM PC.Quote:
Originally Posted by Movieman
yes, our standards are high but it's not like we're slamming OCz.
very nice move OCZ.. :)
:clap: :clap: :clap:
Great, now we get OCZs #1 customer service and warranty with PCP@&C products.
I have a fridge magnet that says "be nice or leave":p:Quote:
Originally Posted by Movieman
but i would really like to see what comes out of this, i have been turned away from OCZ psu's because the quality just wasnt there for me, but now i have a better choice of psu's coming from them. but all of the other ocz products are top notch in my book, this seemed to be the only place they were lacking very much. :D I usually like to go by jonny's psu reviews, he does a much better job then most other websites and goes in depth with every single review, he has the experience and i would like to learn from that experience.
Actually, FSP makes only one of OCZ's lineup of power supplies....the GameXstream. The Modstream and Powerstream models are built by Topower. The Evostream built by 3Y.Quote:
Originally Posted by XeRo
So, I suppose PCP&C will still source their power supplies from Seasonic and Win-Tact, then, since the Silencers are currrently built by Seasonic and the Turbo-Cools are built by Win-Tact.
great move imo.. great psu + good ocz marketing and support = god :p:
Yea, agreed on that one! My honest opinion is that they are both fantastic company's and both stand behind their products and the entheusiast 100% so in my opinion the merg is golden in my eyes and I look forward to see whats up and comeing.:clap:Quote:
Originally Posted by Movieman
From the press release:
"Look for all of OCZ Technology Group's current and future products in its worldwide network of distributors, e-tailers, and retail stores."
It would be nice to be able to walk into Fry's and see the PCP&C units right next to the Silverstones. :D I use a Silverstone for my bench fun but my 3 game rigs all have OCZ. The 700s have never given me any grief and the 520s refuse to die. :ROTF:
hopefully this means that the pcp&c power supplies will be easyer to find in the uk.... I really want one, almost as much as i HATE my etasis. (stupid loud caps making noise and annoying me with your split 12+ horridness)
Now make a new smart PSU!
I want a PSU that can show me how much power is drawn and where (rail) at any point!- now this would be cool.
Nice move OCZ, I like it!
I need a small silent 800W PSU. Whatcha got for me? :D
OPP
That would be a good thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by largon
Well, since Fry's is one of PCP&C's two retail outlets, the other is MicroCenter (but their selection is smaller than Fry's), you should be already able to walk into one and pick up one of PCP&C's power supplies....but your selection is rather limited, this is true. The two Atlanta Fry's do already stock, on their shelves, the Silencer 610 and 750 Quad, and the TurboCool 1KW power supplies.Quote:
Originally Posted by gundamit
And if your local Fry's doesn't stock them, you can easily go onto Fry's website and order them there.
don't forget the PXS1000W by 3Y also which IMO is the match of ANY of the high end supplies out there.Tests have shown us we really underated this PSU and the build quality is nothing short of stunning for the price. The ONLY issue for me personally was the lack of a power switch but that was due to the lack of room with the true ATX format and stacked cores.Quote:
Originally Posted by C'DaleRider;
A friend of mine destroyed 2 1200W coolermasters running 2900's in under 30mins each and he has not even stressed out the PXS he says testing with the same hardware.
For now nothing changes with product lines, we will re evaluate the lines soon though and improvements will be made...and yes quality will NOT go down only up and distribution will improve for the PCP&C product.
So Tony,
What do you recommend for 2x 8800GTX (vmodded and overclocked), E6600 overclocked, a couple hardrives and the basic components?
It has to silent.
The boss and I are building his home gaming rig today.
OPP
I think Tony made a good point in the above post. OCZ bought PCP&P for it's strengths, reputation and quality. We also have the distribution channels to make their products available internationally. We absolutey do not want ro diminish quality or the brand in any way.
We understand that this change may hard for some of you to deal with. Any number of companies could have bought PCP&C and I personally think that think OCZ was a good match. We understand what makes PCP&C the top choice for quality and reliabilty.
I think I will need some PCP&C "samples" for testing soon. ;)
The only silent PC is one that is OFF. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by OPPAINTER
Not if you know how to build them right.Quote:
Originally Posted by andyOCZ
OPP
on the PSU matter, if silence is my target, I just buy what I really want, a good PSU no matter how loud it is, and then...mod it to reduce the noise ;)
Exactly. And really, depends on the Micro Center. I've been in Micro Centers where PCPO&C get entire end caps.Quote:
Originally Posted by C'DaleRider
I agree. The 600W ProXStream I reviewed was rock solid. Albeit a little loud. Too bad I don't get to review any more OCZ power supplies. I'd really like to see what that 1kW can do. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Tony
We've done that with a 1k PSU for this rig. The thing is still to loud, any less air flow and who knows how long the PSU will last.Quote:
Originally Posted by BenchZowner
OPP
Come on, I know you're a capable modder ( and benchmarker ;) ).Quote:
Originally Posted by OPPAINTER
Measure the amb. temp inside the PSU and the temp of critical components inside the PSU with a good IR Temp meter, and check what you can do with the silent fans, etc ;)
btw, how silent do you want to make the system ?
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Originally Posted by Movieman
It's more just warnings of what could happen (and unfortunately i too believe OCZ is a corp like others that is driven for higher profits and margins, it's normal, but all like to hope it won't effect actual products) and it's normal for this kind of talk to go on when a merger/buyout occurs (when 1 is involved in the same/similar industry)
Yes... review samples are good. I want to see that too ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by jonnyGURU
Great news! Leverage a great product like PC P&C through OCZ worldwide distribution :)
I knew I should have bought stocks back 10 months ago :shrug:
Go with a Silencer 750-850w from PCP&C or a 700w Seasonic M12 (modular). Both will give the power you need quite easily and be quiet.Quote:
Originally Posted by OPPAINTER
:cool: ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by JargonGR
Yeah... too bad they're only traded on the London Stock Exchange. They don't show up on my eTrade account. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by JuanFlaiter
Figures there'd be better MicroCenters than the two in Atlanta. I have been to one other.....in VA, Vienna I believe. But only got to spend about a half-hour in it....and it was a lot larger than the ATL stores.Quote:
Originally Posted by jonnyGURU
Can only expect that, though. The VA store serves the entire No. VA/Metro DC area.....
I do remember the VA MicroCenter motherboard section was lots larger than either Atlanta area Fry's mb section is, though.
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Originally Posted by RyderOCZ
oh oh, that wink means somthing :yepp:
i wonder how they'll integrate that :eek: got any piccies? :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Spawne32
Congrats on the purchase. I can understand the logic behind it but I'm somewhat puzzled why you intend on keeping to two brands seperated from each other.
I think Ryder had something in his eye. :ROTF:Quote:
Originally Posted by Spawne32
When I first read about this on another forum, I was horrified. After reading the press release, and realized that this was indeed a good thing for the consumer, my mind settled.
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Originally Posted by andyOCZ
but a good somthing right? :p:
Andy, since OCZ can help with distribution can i ask if OCZ will supply PCP&C products to the Irish market?Quote:
Originally Posted by andyOCZ
As in: http://www.memory-configurator.com
I know they are an authorised reseller for OCZ, please make this happen.
:)
Quote:
Originally Posted by gundamit
You can already walk into Fry's and see the PCP&C right next to the Silverstones...actually usually above them, at least at the Fry's in San Jose...
I personally think there is a lot of work to be done on OCZ PSU's.
The old silver/blue mod stream rails were not stable, and my GameXtreme 600w PSU is the loudest thing in my rig which is pretty poor being as it has a DDC2 Pump with a hum issue and I still can hear the PSU over it.
Was thinking it was a PSU fault, but I've read others on OcUK state that theirs are also noisy.
I can't wait for some decent PSU's to come out with PCI-E 2 plugs (8-pin), that are fully cable braided and quiet (I'm not asking for much, I probably won't ever need over 600w PSU's).
I won't buy Enermax due to their problems with DFI motherboards, looks like I'll have to wait for Tagan, they have never let me down.
Mind you, I'm looking at Be-Quiet! and Gigabytes power supplies - see what they are like.
congrats ocz :toast:
gigabyte does psus as well?
The psu is not loud, the fan inside it is...simple problem with a simple fix as long as there are fans out there that are quiet enough and push enough air.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mekrel;
You have to remember we have to cool to specific limits, half the PSU's i see modified are undercooled for high load and the end users are running the risk of failure..OPP's words about being cautious are bang on the money...its ok changing the fan but you need to measure cooling with the system on max load not at idle.
I can understand what you are saying, and I know that just whacking any quiet fan in is not a good idea.
Firstly for pushing enough air and secondly for having a high average lifetime (ball bearing vs Brushless)
However, my Tagan 580w PSU was quiet and I doubt 20watts would produce any more heat unless the OCZ PSU was less efficient.
Pretty sure I read around and the fan is soldered to the PCB, which would be an obvious warraty voiding task.
@Saaya: Yeah, here is the news release from Gigabyte: http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/News/Ther...px?NewsID=1331
Yet, is it made by Gigabyte? Too much OEM making, slapping company sticker on it going on with PSU's imo - can never tell what actual PSU is inside your rig.
Sounds like a project in itself:D Of course there would be no need for moding the PSU if we had the right PSU;)Quote:
Originally Posted by BenchZowner
As far as noise, what we are seeing is that the loudest thing in the system is the PSU so this is what we want to eliminate.
OPP
Looks like the hot item, thanks a bunch:clap:Quote:
Originally Posted by EnJoY
http://www.pcpower.com/products/view...php?show=S75QB
OPP
Being an HVAC technician airflow is music to my ears and I have never been bothered by fan noise. I would rather have my components thoroughly cooled and sometimes that means moving some serious cfm. How the manufacturer goes about this makes all the difference but unless they make the power supply the size of a toaster it will be difficult to find fans that can move the required cfm without some noise. We want server quality power supplies but small desktop noise levels and that is a very tough challenge.
I have been planning on getting a PCP&P 610 for my current rig but the Corsair 620HX also looks good. :shrug:
Congratulations OCZ on a great purchase! :clap: :clap:
I have the Corsair 620 in my system, works great for my setup, very quiet also.Quote:
Originally Posted by SiGfever
http://www.xtremesystems.com/modules...t&id=42&page=5
OPP
Do you know about the free 8-Pin PCI-E 2 power lead for the Corsair PSU's?Quote:
Originally Posted by OPPAINTER
I don't understand how it would work, because the PSU's are modular so the outlet on the PSU will be 6 pin, so how can you put an 8pin cable into a 6pin outlet on the PSU itself?
I'm buying a new motherboard, PSU and graphics card Thursday, and would like 8pin plugs. Thanks.
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Originally Posted by Mekrel
I don't know about that deal.
But I can tell you that the 2 extra pins that go into a 2900 card are only ground wires. So I assume that all you have to do to make 8 pins out of 6 is to splice 2 wires into one of the 6 pin ground wires:D
OPP
Like this: http://img522.imageshack.us/my.php?i...onektorxm5.jpgQuote:
Originally Posted by OPPAINTER
Ground wires tapped off of an unused connector.
Theoretically, you only need the one extra ground on the side with the ground wires on the connector.
The ground wire on the +12V side of the connector is actually supposed to be a +12V sense wire. This is supposed to feed information back to the PSU about how well the +12V is doing at the end of the connector. But since most PSU's don't support this (even PSU's with 8-pin connectors tend to be just retrofitted old designs) they just throw an extra ground wire in there.
It's my understanding that all of our retailers will have the opportunity to carry the PCP&P line. Send off an email to the above site and see if you can get a few buddies to do the same. Our sales department will be making them aware of the changes to be sure.Quote:
Originally Posted by Richard Dower
I was able to get a bit more information as well. PCP&C will remain at the Carlsbad, CA facility and the PCP&P employees and management are staying on. The best part is that I live about 15 minutes away form Carlsbad. :)
You don't have to do all that....OCZ have a 6 to 8 adapter on the way in so it will be just plug and play. Im hoping we will do a molex to "2" also just for the extra grounds..also a plug and play item.Quote:
Originally Posted by jonnyGURU
Keep innovative, keep quality and we will keep buying :D
So just how soon will OCZ be announcing 90% efficient power supplies? :)
Yeh I was little horrified when I heard of this deal too but it now makes much more sense.... Good stuff...
Doesn't the PcP&C Silncer 750w come available with 8-pin pci-e... you have to call the order in yes? I swear I heard that somewhere... could be wrong
Im also hoping for distribution of PCP&C products here in Spain. Will that be possible? Don't even know if there's an Euro version, but everything I read about those PSUs is good. So if it's sold, it will be my next PSU upgrade :D
I am not sure how quickly we will get PCP&C into the EU, but I'm sure this will happen. As long as you purchase from an EU online store, you won't have to pay extra customs duties, correct?Quote:
Originally Posted by mursaat