Old Skool socket 7

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05-06-2007, 02:46 AM
massman

Old Skool socket 7

Last night I tried to fit my modded mach2 on the Asus P5A socket7 motherboard. The board doesn't have any socket holes, so I had to improvise a bit :p

This is why I like old school system to the max: I managed to run my k6/2 500MHz. to 6x120MHz, which is the absolute maximum of the board.

http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s...-/100_4491.jpg

http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s...-/100_4494.jpg

http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s...-/100_4498.jpg

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05-06-2007, 02:53 AM
massman

Quote:

Originally Posted by |JACK-

let me guess 8.91secs superpi?:D :slobber:

Haha ... you're so funny :rolleyes:

Actually, I couldn't run pi at 720Mhz, but maybe I can run at 650+.

If you're really interested, this is how a k6/2 performs:

http://www.hwbot.org/signature.img?i...77&thumb=false
05-06-2007, 02:58 AM
Turrican

great, finally you've also benched with a phase change cooling :D
:toast:

what was you max winodws-bootable clock?

looks like, i've to strike back. :D
05-06-2007, 03:18 AM
PPInDaHouse

old skool cpus overclocking its funny hehe :D

want to try 32m SPI? lol

Regards ;)
05-06-2007, 03:27 AM
massman

Quote:

Originally Posted by Turrican

great, finally you've also benched with a phase change cooling :D
:toast:

what was you max winodws-bootable clock?

looks like, i've to strike back. :D

120*6 = 720Mhz., the max of my motherboard :)

I currently trying to get the max bench freq. up to 689mhz, but it's really hard to keep it stable for 10 minutes (PiFast) :(
05-06-2007, 03:38 AM
Turrican

Quote:

Originally Posted by massman

120*6 = 720Mhz., the max of my motherboard :)

I currently trying to get the max bench freq. up to 689mhz, but it's really hard to keep it stable for 10 minutes (PiFast) :(

yeah, i know what you're talking about ;) :D

unfortunately i have no chance against your tweaking skills in super pi.
my cpu is faster (more mhz, more l2-cache), but still a lot slower. :(
05-06-2007, 03:40 AM
SoddemFX

Superb!

Great to see old Chompers all icy :D

I'll see if i can join you in a few days :)

Tom
05-06-2007, 03:50 AM
massman

Quote:

Originally Posted by Turrican

yeah, i know what you're talking about ;) :D

unfortunately i have no chance against your tweaking skills in super pi.
my cpu is faster (more mhz, more l2-cache), but still a lot slower. :(

Superpi is easy to tweak, pifast on the other hand ... :(

Your 622s is a hard nut to crack. At the same speeds + tweaks I only managed to get 634s. I bet the l2 does mather a lot when it comes to pifast benching ;).

The problem is that I really need to bench at 650+ Mhz. to beat that score, but the system is not at all stable at those speeds. I've tried 115*6, 110*6 and 120*5.5 and nothing works stable 'till the end of the bench.

By the way, do you have problems too when you up the voltage up to 3.2v? 2.9-3.0v seems to be the sweet spot for stability/performance.
05-06-2007, 03:53 AM
mup0

I fell down from my chair.I like it ;) oooh i want one of those phase change...but...:) Anyway its cool!Also good improvisation.This should be called HDD Phase Clipper:)
05-06-2007, 04:02 AM
Turrican

Quote:

Originally Posted by massman

Superpi is easy to tweak, pifast on the other hand ... :(

Your 622s is a hard nut to crack. At the same speeds + tweaks I only managed to get 634s. I bet the l2 does mather a lot when it comes to pifast benching ;).

The problem is that I really need to bench at 650+ Mhz. to beat that score, but the system is not at all stable at those speeds. I've tried 115*6, 110*6 and 120*5.5 and nothing works stable 'till the end of the bench.

By the way, do you have problems too when you up the voltage up to 3.2v? 2.9-3.0v seems to be the sweet spot for stability/performance.

yes, some of my cpus don't even boot with more than 2,9V. Looks like the cpus can't handle that voltage.
very strange. :confused:

maybe next week i'm gonna set my sockel7 rig for some benching up again. :)
now i must bench my main-system a little bit :D
05-06-2007, 04:05 AM
massman

Quote:

Originally Posted by Turrican

yes, some of my cpus don't even boot with more than 2,9V. Looks like the cpus can't handle that voltage.
very strange. :confused:

maybe next week i'm gonna set my sockel7 rig for some benching up again. :)
now i must bench my main-system a little bit :D

I hope you do. The only WR you have left is the pifast WR ;)
05-06-2007, 04:08 AM
Turrican

Quote:

Originally Posted by massman

I hope you do. The only WR you have left is the pifast WR ;)

the empire will strike back :D
i see what i can do :p:
05-06-2007, 04:19 AM
massman

Quote:

Originally Posted by PPInDaHouse

old skool cpus overclocking its funny hehe :D

want to try 32m SPI? lol

Regards ;)

32M is weird, I have never been able to run it. Even on stock speeds, the system freezes :(
05-06-2007, 04:29 AM
Kasparz

Buy a few more and do handpick ;)
Maybe you'll squeeze 720Mhz at benchmarks stable.
This is with 6x83FSB or 5x100 by default?
Or search for K6-III with 256KB cache and 180nm, that will break a wall.
By the way, your spi score is incredibly slow, my PII 366Mhz laptop can do spi1m about 50sec faster.
05-06-2007, 05:01 AM
massman

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kasparz

Buy a few more and do handpick ;)
Maybe you'll squeeze 720Mhz at benchmarks stable.
This is with 6x83FSB or 5x100 by default?
Or search for K6-III with 256KB cache and 180nm, that will break a wall.
By the way, your spi score is incredibly slow, my PII 366Mhz laptop can do spi1m about 50sec faster.

The only chip I have left is a K6-2 350Mhz, but I'll have to search for it :)

Default 5*100

The k6/2 is indeed very slow, I have tested the pentium II's myself and I'm pretty sure that the k6/2 will never touch a PII when it comes to SPi performance. The time isn't slow because of the bad OS, it's because the chip itself is incredibly slow :)
05-06-2007, 05:07 AM
enakje

The lack of (onchip) L2 cache kills SuperPi performance indeed. The K6-2+/3+ are definitely better.
05-06-2007, 05:19 AM
Kasparz

Blah, checked prices on ebay for K6-III. For that price you can buy nF2 motherboard and barton. Sheesh.
05-06-2007, 12:59 PM
V2-V3

AMD-K6-2/350AFR
2.2V CORE/3.3V I/O
A 9916DPMW

any good? would some one like to use it?
05-06-2007, 04:00 PM
jamiet757

great looking setup
05-08-2007, 09:30 AM
Misko

Quote:

Originally Posted by massman

Haha ... you're so funny :rolleyes:

Actually, I couldn't run pi at 720Mhz, but maybe I can run at 650+.

If you're really interested, this is how a k6/2 performs:

http://www.hwbot.org/signature.img?i...77&thumb=false

Didi u try copywaza tweak before run maybe u will improve result :D, kidding great old school result :toast:
05-08-2007, 10:04 AM
massman

Quote:

Originally Posted by Misko

Didi u try copywaza tweak before run maybe u will improve result :D, kidding great old school result :toast:

Watch out, maybe I'll try :p

But first ... dfi p965 ;)
05-10-2007, 02:20 AM
wittekakker

If your mobo is hitting the limits you might want to change the 14MHz crystal. Try 15MHz instead (and hope for your HD's that they not loose any data)

Also check for any voltmod for you NB.
What memory's are being used?
05-10-2007, 02:58 AM
Duniek

nice one
you should get a K6-2+ or K6-3+ (with 6x mulitplier)
and try to break fsb 150 (maybe @ ln2 :D )
6*150 =900mhz the fastest socket7 processor :banana:
05-10-2007, 09:04 AM
massman

Quote:

Originally Posted by wittekakker

If your mobo is hitting the limits you might want to change the 14MHz crystal. Try 15MHz instead (and hope for your HD's that they not loose any data)

Also check for any voltmod for you NB.
What memory's are being used?

I'll contact you ;)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Duniek

nice one
you should get a K6-2+ or K6-3+ (with 6x mulitplier)
and try to break fsb 150 (maybe @ ln2 :D )
6*150 =900mhz the fastest socket7 processor :banana:

150Mhz. will be very dificult as I'm bios limited to 120Mhz.

The 6x multiplier is already okay :)

http://www.hwbot.org/signature.img?i...96&thumb=false
05-14-2007, 03:29 PM
Riska

What about clockgen or cpufsb to change fsb in win
05-14-2007, 07:19 PM
lowfat

ahahaha. You are my hero. That is so awesome.
05-14-2007, 07:29 PM
lowfat

what is copywaza tweak?:confused:
05-15-2007, 09:15 AM
massman

Quote:

Originally Posted by Riska

What about clockgen or cpufsb to change fsb in win

Haven't found anything that works :(
05-15-2007, 11:45 AM
Savoy

Interesting exp, i'll try it if i can borrow my grandpa rig :D
05-15-2007, 12:19 PM
wittekakker

Maybe there is something usefull in here:
http://www.ocinside.de/go_e.html?htt...oft_links.html
05-16-2007, 06:39 AM
Gothic

I've been watching this thread for long...

Feeling like it's time to get the dust out of my P5A too! lol

Any updates, massman?
05-19-2007, 03:18 PM
massman

Not yet, the windows instal got corrupted and atm I don't have any time left. Examinations coming up ... :(
05-26-2007, 12:31 AM
skinnie

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kasparz

Buy a few more and do handpick ;)
Maybe you'll squeeze 720Mhz at benchmarks stable.
This is with 6x83FSB or 5x100 by default?
Or search for K6-III with 256KB cache and 180nm, that will break a wall.
By the way, your spi score is incredibly slow, my PII 366Mhz laptop can do spi1m about 50sec faster.

do you find it slow?my mmx200@233 did 15min!!!and @100x2.5 it did about 12min...can't remember my score with my k6-2 500...but this things are very cool to play...
go here http://www.k6plus.com/index.php?name=PNphpBB2 they have some tweaks and that kind of stuff :rofl:
:up:
05-26-2007, 01:16 AM
massman

I'll check it out :)
05-26-2007, 10:48 PM
Kasparz

Quote:

Originally Posted by skinnie

do you find it slow?my mmx200@233 did 15min!!!and @100x2.5 it did about 12min...

My Cyrix 75Mhz did it at about half day. Spi 16k was about one minute.

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