Kinc found a picture on his USB flash drive

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05-05-2007, 07:10 AM
NH|Delph1

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Kinc found few screenshots on his USB flash drive *update*

Spooky! ;)

EDIT:

Now there's more of them!

Source

//Andreas
05-05-2007, 07:15 AM
massman

Sweet :)
05-05-2007, 07:20 AM
VictorWang

:D not bad.
1000/1050 might be there :)
05-05-2007, 07:24 AM
SoF

with that cpu speed and single card - nice teaser, I think another one is in the race :D
05-05-2007, 07:31 AM
-Acid-

what a find :woot:

looking forward to this round for sure
05-05-2007, 08:02 AM
david901101

Hmm, nice :cool:
05-05-2007, 08:51 AM
SPQQKY

Quote:

Originally Posted by NH|Delph1

Spooky! ;)

Yes, how can I help you?.............J/K, looks like we're in for a new race.
05-05-2007, 08:55 AM
NickS

I think we all have an idea of what this card may be *cough ATI*
05-05-2007, 08:57 AM
MAS

it looks like his "unknown" videocard is overclocked a bit :)
05-05-2007, 09:27 AM
S1mon-

Lol sick!!!
05-05-2007, 10:57 AM
cantankerous

i think overclocked a bit is an understatement.
05-05-2007, 02:50 PM
Lightman

:) Stock cooler :)

PS. Another 'missing' file ;)

Attachment 58567
05-05-2007, 09:54 PM
WRC

anybody know about how much does the 8800gtx@default do in 3d '06? with similar setup. This is really interesting :gamer:
05-05-2007, 10:03 PM
MAS

WRC,

8800GTX with february forceware
SM2 ~ 4900
http://www.ixbt.com/video/itogi-vide...1280-pcie.html

HDR/SM3 ~ 5000
http://www.ixbt.com/video/itogi-vide...1280-pcie.html
05-06-2007, 02:02 AM
KTE

The reference nV G80GTX I had till around 2 days back (planning for 2x R600 :D) did around ~12500 in 06 with a stock QX6800 on the eVGA 680i, XP 32bit with ForceWare 158.22.
05-06-2007, 02:05 AM
MAS

KTE, total score means nothing

how much SM2 and HDR/SM3 ?
05-06-2007, 02:32 AM
Sampsa

Quote:

Originally Posted by KTE

The reference nV G80GTX I had till around 2 days back (planning for 2x R600 :D) did around ~12500 in 06 with a stock QX6800 on the eVGA 680i, XP 32bit with ForceWare 158.22.

Yes true, GeForce 8800 GTX and Ultra are the most powerful graphics cards in the market.
05-06-2007, 02:39 AM
KTE

Quote:

Originally Posted by MAS

KTE, total score means nothing

how much SM2 and HDR/SM3 ?

As I said, I don't have the card with me now and hardly used it anyway, but that's why I gave a rough approx of total score based on some notes I had made in an email. :)

If you really want me to estimate and think back, I "think" it did around ~5100 SM2 and ~5400 SM3. ;)

I won't be far off with at.
05-06-2007, 05:15 AM
cantankerous

In another forum kinc mentioned this 'mystery' card scales very well with increases to PCIE frequency. Care to comment more on this Kinc? Does increasing the pcie freq net a higher score/more performance even at identical clocks if keeping the frequency lower or does this card only allow you to get higher clocks because the pcie freq is raised? Can you comment how high on the pcie freq you went and does the card scale linearly? Like 1mhz pcie freq = x amount of mhz of gpu/mem clock of the card?
05-06-2007, 10:18 AM
Kinc

Quote:

Originally Posted by cantankerous

In another forum kinc mentioned this 'mystery' card scales very well with increases to PCIE frequency. Care to comment more on this Kinc? Does increasing the pcie freq net a higher score/more performance even at identical clocks if keeping the frequency lower or does this card only allow you to get higher clocks because the pcie freq is raised? Can you comment how high on the pcie freq you went and does the card scale linearly? Like 1mhz pcie freq = x amount of mhz of gpu/mem clock of the card?

Raising the PCIE freq from 100 to 116MHz on a 975X with a unknown graphics card scaled very good. 118MHz didnt do much on stock clocks, no increase. With oc I tested 120MHz (the limit using SATA) and got a healty increase again, much bigger hen you usually get. On the same clocks.
05-06-2007, 10:25 AM
satein

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kinc

Raising the PCIE freq from 100 to 116MHz on a 975X with a unknown graphics card scaled very good. 118MHz didnt do much on stock clocks, no increase. With oc I tested 120MHz (the limit using SATA) and got a healty increase again, much bigger hen you usually get. On the same clocks.

Sound like the GPU was designed on PCI-e 2.0 is really ture :D Then, if we could get the motherboard with PCI-e 2.0, will this unname (you-know-who) will be more better scaling?
05-06-2007, 11:18 AM
massman

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sampsa

Yes true, GeForce 8800 GTX and Ultra are the most powerful graphics cards in the market.

And will they still be after the release of the unknown vga card? :)
05-06-2007, 11:25 AM
biohead

nice, I've been running my pcie at 125 mhz without a problem for quite some time now.
05-06-2007, 11:47 AM
saaya

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david901101's avatar says it all :D
05-07-2007, 12:31 AM
KTE

Heehee

More more!! :slobber: :slobber: :D
05-07-2007, 02:46 AM
ahmad

Wow. On air and stock cooler. My god thats insanity.
05-07-2007, 10:16 PM
Revv23

if thats true i own one.

Edit - Didn't mean to sound like i dont trust you kinc, of course I believe in your results, what i meant was that if retail samples perform like this I own one.

:toast:
05-07-2007, 10:42 PM
guess2098

Kinc nice
hopefully i will get 8.37 tomorrow
05-08-2007, 07:55 AM
DilTech

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sampsa

Yes true, GeForce 8800 GTX and Ultra are the most powerful graphics cards in the market.

Is that after the release of the HD 2900's?
05-08-2007, 10:58 AM
Sampsa

Quote:

Originally Posted by DilTech

Is that after the release of the HD 2900's?

Yes.. HD 2900 XT (there won't be any other models) will compete against GTS.
05-08-2007, 10:25 PM
NH|Delph1

http://www.nordichardware.com/news-pics/47.jpg

Source

;)

//Andreas
05-08-2007, 10:33 PM
Kasparz

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sampsa

Yes.. HD 2900 XT (there won't be any other models) will compete against GTS.

Yeah Sampsa, thats true, but seeing these scores lately, i don't think that even hard clocked GTS can match 29XT. And new drivers will bring better performance for 29XT, that will make GTS fall behind by large margin.
05-09-2007, 08:38 AM
Sampsa

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kasparz

Yeah Sampsa, thats true, but seeing these scores lately, i don't think that even hard clocked GTS can match 29XT. And new drivers will bring better performance for 29XT, that will make GTS fall behind by large margin.

True in 3dmark, not true in games.
05-09-2007, 09:45 AM
LowRun

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sampsa

True in 3dmark, not true in games.

Ouch, so those 3dmark scores are no indication of in game performance? That would suck mucho.
05-09-2007, 11:03 AM
cantankerous

I had a feeling it was going to be that way and with Sampsa himself more or less saying the same thing I am not looking forward to the gaming results with this card. If all you do is run 06 than this card is for you otherwise its Nvidia or another 4 month wait for ATI's 'refresh' offering.
05-09-2007, 09:08 PM
deathman20

Sampsa, can you say anything on if a Swiftech MCW60 can fit on the card or not?
05-09-2007, 11:58 PM
flopper

ati went with stability first with the drivers.
Performance will go up.
05-10-2007, 04:46 AM
LowRun

Quote:

Originally Posted by flopper

ati went with stability first with the drivers.
Performance will go up.

I'd say they had plenty of time to produce stable and fast drivers, this would give credit to Brother Esau's perpetual rant about their drivers programmers, it's not any better at Nvidia right now tho'.
05-10-2007, 08:21 AM
Kinc

Quote:

Originally Posted by deathman20

Sampsa, can you say anything on if a Swiftech MCW60 can fit on the card or not?

I just tested with a waterblock without shim and it works fine if you tighten the bults really really hard :)
05-10-2007, 08:51 AM
deathman20

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kinc

I just tested with a waterblock without shim and it works fine if you tighten the bults really really hard :)

Glad to hear ordering a water setup soon and wanted to make sure so I can hopefully prep the case before the card arrives. Thanks Kinc.
05-10-2007, 10:07 AM
GLENBOY

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kinc

I just tested with a waterblock without shim and it works fine if you tighten the bults really really hard :)

hello again kinc, when you say without the shim do you mean the shim on the card itself around the gpu or the shim you put in to fill the 1mm gap , so as long as the gpu waterblock is bolted tight a thin shim may not be required, if you could confirm that that'd be grat, keep up the good work

Glen
05-10-2007, 11:14 AM
Kinc

Quote:

Originally Posted by GLENBOY

hello again kinc, when you say without the shim do you mean the shim on the card itself around the gpu or the shim you put in to fill the 1mm gap , so as long as the gpu waterblock is bolted tight a thin shim may not be required, if you could confirm that that'd be grat, keep up the good work

Glen

Sorry I ment without the coldplate. The waterblock I am using covers the shim around the gpu wich is slighty higher then the die. I did a test where i first tightend the bolts like I usually do and wasnt quite happy with the contact. I tested too tighten a bit more (I stopped when the pcb started to bend;) ), and the contact was as good as ever. I am still recomendng you to use a coldplate so you minimize the risk of dmaging the card.
05-10-2007, 11:29 AM
Raja@ASUS

So Oc'ed the 8800gtx's will still hold the records for this round even in 06?
05-10-2007, 12:13 PM
GLENBOY

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kinc

Sorry I ment without the coldplate. The waterblock I am using covers the shim around the gpu wich is slighty higher then the die. I did a test where i first tightend the bolts like I usually do and wasnt quite happy with the contact. I tested too tighten a bit more (I stopped when the pcb started to bend;) ), and the contact was as good as ever. I am still recomendng you to use a coldplate so you minimize the risk of dmaging the card.

thanks kinc i have been looking all over for some 1 mm copper sheet with no luck so hopefully i'll get away with not using one, i know your busy but i appreciate you taking the time to answer, a pair of these should work well in my old p5w-dh , thanks again, you're still the man ;) Oh on a side note would you recommend using ram sinks on the upper side of the card as well,as the ram chips are on both sides on these or is this not really neccessary with these thanks
05-10-2007, 07:35 PM
kemist

Quote:

Originally Posted by GLENBOY

thanks kinc i have been looking all over for some 1 mm copper sheet with no luck so hopefully i'll get away with not using one, i know your busy but i appreciate you taking the time to answer, a pair of these should work well in my old p5w-dh , thanks again, you're still the man ;) Oh on a side note would you recommend using ram sinks on the upper side of the card as well,as the ram chips are on both sides on these or is this not really neccessary with these thanks

http://www.petrastechshop.com/2x2x1cobl.html

1/4" thick copper but only $6 and petras rocks
05-10-2007, 10:23 PM
Extera

well this looks promising :)
05-12-2007, 12:23 AM
NH|Delph1

Kinc goes subzero:

http://www.kinc.se/2900/1147.jpg

And this is far from the peak ;)

From: source

//Andreas
05-12-2007, 12:29 AM
Kinc

Quote:

Originally Posted by GLENBOY

thanks kinc i have been looking all over for some 1 mm copper sheet with no luck so hopefully i'll get away with not using one, i know your busy but i appreciate you taking the time to answer, a pair of these should work well in my old p5w-dh , thanks again, you're still the man ;) Oh on a side note would you recommend using ram sinks on the upper side of the card as well,as the ram chips are on both sides on these or is this not really neccessary with these thanks

If you have an old cpu cooler or other heatsink with thin copper or aluminium fins you can rip that appart, thats what I did :)
05-12-2007, 01:38 AM
blossa

Quote:

Originally Posted by NH|Delph1

Kinc goes subzero

Thoose clocks seems very promising. Keep it up. ;)
05-12-2007, 06:39 AM
Jonny Manc

Can I get back to the earlier point about synthetic benchies vs real world gaming?

What do we think the real world gaming / 3d performance is gonna be like on these *mystery* cards...sky high or dive bomb?
05-12-2007, 06:43 AM
GLENBOY

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kinc

If you have an old cpu cooler or other heatsink with thin copper or aluminium fins you can rip that appart, thats what I did :)

thanks i am cutting up an old amd xp heatsink as we speak, thanks again a money saving tip as well can't be bad

oh and no one else has mentioned it but the 3dmark 05 canyon flight score of yours 165fps beats the existing no.1 score for a single 8800gtx by 5 fps :) and your using 1400mhz less cpu speed
05-12-2007, 06:44 AM
Kinc

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jonny Manc

Can I get back to the earlier point about synthetic benchies vs real world gaming?

What do we think the real world gaming / 3d performance is gonna be like on these *mystery* cards...sky high or dive bomb?

This is the part of the forum where synthetic benchmarks matter :)
05-12-2007, 07:42 AM
DesertShooter

Quote:

Originally Posted by NH|Delph1

Kinc goes subzero:

http://www.kinc.se/2900/1147.jpg

And this is far from the peak ;)

From: source

//Andreas

wow :slobber:

That's 5fps more than Hipro's 160FPS's singlecard WR run!(with CPU @ 5,4GHz!)
05-12-2007, 07:52 AM
kiwi

Have you already found hard voltmods? Hopefully, Wizzard will make Ati tool working with this :)
05-12-2007, 07:57 AM
massman

Quote:

Originally Posted by DesertShooter

wow :slobber:

That's 5fps more than Hipro's 160FPS's singlecard WR run!(with CPU @ 5,4GHz!)

He's already at 176.7 and hopefully even higher.

Oh, yeah, he broke 30K 3dm05 single card :banana:
05-12-2007, 08:41 AM
Xion X2

Can someone explain the coldplate solution to me real quick? I plan to mod my XT w/ a waterblock but am a little concerned about the raised shim around the GPU. I would rather not have the GPU naked; I've heard that on past ATI cards the shim was only removed by a sharp knife or razor blade.. not screws like on G80.

Is the piece of copper linked from Petras used inbetween the GPU and the waterblock, or how does it work? Can someone explain it in detail giving thermal material application as well?

Thanks!
05-12-2007, 08:49 AM
korda

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jonny Manc

What do we think the real world gaming / 3d performance is gonna be like on these *mystery* cards...sky high or dive bomb?

Wrong forum.

These guys don't play games. ;)
05-12-2007, 09:29 AM
w0mbat

singlecard WR!

http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/4594/30kni1.jpg
05-12-2007, 09:35 AM
deathman20

DAmn that was quick lol. Now give it a few more drivers and days of OCing and surely it will do more. 30k gratz
05-12-2007, 09:41 AM
Dynasty

O o o, just edged K|NGP|N's 29686 8800 ultra single card WR in 05.....

Both cards very close, kingpin needed 5300mhz for 29.6K where
as Kinc with 100mhz less about 300+ points over...
im sure both benchers tweaked well so that would weight out
any thoughts there......not bad.......8800 vs 2900.....
2900XT still better buy @ 429.00 usd get performance
equal to or slight better of an 8800 gtx/ultra....;)
05-12-2007, 09:44 AM
deathman20

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dynasty

O o o, just edged K|NGP|N's 29686 8800 ultra single card WR in 05.....

Both cards very close, kingpin needed 5300mhz for 29.6K where
as Kinc with 100mhz less about 300+ points over...
im sure both benchers tweaked well so that would weight out
any thoughts there......not bad.......8800 vs 2900.....
2900XT still better buy @ 429.00 usd get performance
equal to or slight better of an 8800 gtx/ultra....;)

429? Psh $403, 2 Day Delivery ;) Those 2 scores though are amazing though so close. Question is what drivers did Kinc use? Must of been the latest ones right?
05-12-2007, 09:52 AM
LowRun

Hehe, seems like the show just started :cool:
05-12-2007, 09:57 AM
ahmad

For benching this will be monster. If ati hadn't screwed up texture units, things might be different...
05-12-2007, 09:57 AM
Dynasty

Quote:

Originally Posted by deathman20

429? Psh $403, 2 Day Delivery ;) Those 2 scores though are amazing though so close. Question is what drivers did Kinc use? Must of been the latest ones right?

Im almost positive he is on 8.38 drivers as they give nice boost in
3d mark over 8.374's...............
05-12-2007, 10:10 AM
NickS

Holy Crap the XT is fast, I cant imagine the XTX!

GOGOGO ATi! :woot:!
05-12-2007, 10:18 AM
Lane-k

Ouch 1147 mhz on core.....
We have not again the card.. and he give us a WR.....:D

tssss tssss tsss!!!!! (you desesperate me....)
05-12-2007, 11:32 AM
w0mbat

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dynasty

Im almost positive he is on 8.38 drivers as they give nice boost in
3d mark over 8.374's...............

No, he used the 8.374 driver. With the 8.38 he would get about 1-2k points more.
05-12-2007, 11:57 AM
KTE

In all honesty, I am looking at 32-33k here when pushed with release drivers :D

I don't expect less.

Nay, not pushed enough yet, eh Marcus :woot:
05-12-2007, 12:06 PM
Lightman

OMG!! :eek:

Congrats to Kinc :woot:

ATi is getting core clocks very close to CPUs ones :D
They should catch up around 2009 with clocks coz of Fusion CPU.. :)

PS. I'm just reached a bit over 10k in 3DM05 ... Kinc score gives something to think about...
05-12-2007, 01:57 PM
Evil

Damn insane.:clap:
Ati is finally back, waited 3 months for this.:toast2:
05-12-2007, 02:19 PM
Kinc

Quote:

Originally Posted by deathman20

429? Psh $403, 2 Day Delivery ;) Those 2 scores though are amazing though so close. Question is what drivers did Kinc use? Must of been the latest ones right?

8.37

I would really like a newer one with more perf though :)
05-12-2007, 02:50 PM
Marioace

just the begining? :D
05-12-2007, 02:54 PM
zbogorgon

kinc, do you by any chance know when will Ati Tool supporting R600 be released ?
05-12-2007, 03:44 PM
guess2098

Kinc nice score.
have you try CF yet??
i thinky 1GB version bios are too old (3/1 vs 4/19)... that is why perf lower than 512MB :(

any chance to let me know the ati tool you use :D
05-12-2007, 03:50 PM
k|ngp|n

Great job kinc as always :toast: ATI always rocks in 05'. Can't wait to see Sami in action again too. Long time coming for that. I thought the 2900 would really give it to the ultra in 05', more left? Closer than I thought.
What about the rest of the benches....06,03,01,am3? After NDA?
How close are the 2 gpus in those? :D
Ultra isn't tapped out yet guys, but it looks to be a good fight shaping up in 05 for sure.
05-13-2007, 02:21 AM
gunit

so the 2900 XT did 950mhz core on the stock cooler with just a volt mod???
05-13-2007, 03:20 AM
NH|Delph1

The 30k picture was not suppose to be released until tomorrow, but I guess we can't do much about it now...

Sad that you can't trust people. :(

We have more though, but have taken precautions. I don't know what to say about this really.

//Andreas
05-13-2007, 03:50 AM
v|aDy

Nice result Kinc!
What kind of cooling do you use?
05-13-2007, 03:55 AM
Sampsa

Radeon HD 2900 XT will be interesting card in 3DMarks, especially 05 :)

Good job Kinc! :toast:
05-13-2007, 04:34 AM
PlatoonSgtElias

Quote:

Originally Posted by NH|Delph1

The 30k picture was not suppose to be released until tomorrow, but I guess we can't do much about it now...

Sad that you can't trust people. :(

We have more though, but have taken precautions. I don't know what to say about this really.

//Andreas

idiot :slapass:

Nice result!
05-13-2007, 04:52 AM
gunit

why did the mem go down to 999 from 1120?
05-13-2007, 04:58 AM
NH|Delph1

Quote:

Originally Posted by PlatoonSgtElias

idiot :slapass:

Nice result!

I certainly don't hope you're referring to me.
I had nothing to do with this, but can just conclude that someone took the time to sit around and spam Kinc's server with random filename hoping to get lucky.

The picture was uploaded for other than the general public. Kind of sad people don't have better things to do.

//Andreas
05-13-2007, 05:05 AM
biohead

Quote:

Originally Posted by NH|Delph1

I certainly don't hope you're referring to me.
I had nothing to do with this, but can just conclude that someone took the time to sit around and spam Kinc's server with random filename hoping to get lucky.

The picture was uploaded for other than the general public. Kind of sad people don't have better things to do.

//Andreas

but it was to be expected, isn't this like throwing gasoline on a fire hoping it won't ignite?
05-13-2007, 05:25 AM
NH|Delph1

Quote:

Originally Posted by biohead

but it was to be expected, isn't this like throwing gasoline on a fire hoping it won't ignite?

Indeed it is. I just don't see the point of name-calling, especially as the person above have no idea of what actually happened.
Kinc was perhaps a bit careless, but I know why he did it and neither I nor anyone else thinks this was his fault this leaked. None of us really expected people to be this desperate, which we only have ourselves to blame.

Both techPowerUp and VR-Zone have been set up to similar things, we all look kind of stupid by now.

//Andreas
05-13-2007, 05:35 AM
gunit

blame, not blaim.
05-13-2007, 05:37 AM
Kinc

Thank you all :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by k|ngp|n

Great job kinc as always :toast: ATI always rocks in 05'. Can't wait to see Sami in action again too. Long time coming for that. I thought the 2900 would really give it to the ultra in 05', more left? Closer than I thought.
What about the rest of the benches....06,03,01,am3? After NDA?
How close are the 2 gpus in those? :D
Ultra isn't tapped out yet guys, but it looks to be a good fight shaping up in 05 for sure.

I'm pretty sure there is alot left in the card. The reason why I cant go higher is that the cascade cant keap up with the card. Imagine a R600 running 1.46V (stock 1.2V) and 1150MHz. Hotter then the Sun. For 1 test I have been able to run 1204MHz with this cascade. Core temp is close to 0C during load wich is silly really :)

For rest of the Marks R600 will need a new driver, wich is around the corner i hear.

I have tested to lower volts to 1.0V to test for coldbug and -82C core temp no problem at all. Not even in post. R600 is a ln2 baby for sure :D
05-13-2007, 05:42 AM
Lane-k

So it was under cascade? not Dry Ice or LN2...? ... Nice..
05-13-2007, 05:59 AM
massman

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kinc

I'm pretty sure there is alot left in the card. The reason why I cant go higher is that the cascade cant keap up with the card. Imagine a R600 running 1.46V (stock 1.2V) and 1150MHz. Hotter then the Sun. For 1 test I have been able to run 1204MHz with this cascade. Core temp is close to 0C during load wich is silly really :)

For rest of the Marks R600 will need a new driver, wich is around the corner i hear.

I have tested to lower volts to 1.0V to test for coldbug and -82C core temp no problem at all. Not even in post. R600 is a ln2 baby for sure :D

Omg, cascade + 1.46v = +/- 0°C.

When will you test the cards with ln²?
05-13-2007, 06:06 AM
blind_ripper

lol that poor cascade , 1.46vcore and the temps go 0°C :p: .
looks like we have a new winner under the hotty's :D , great work now get those containers off ur's and run some LN² :D
05-13-2007, 06:25 AM
massman

Quote:

Originally Posted by blind_ripper

lol that poor cascade , 1.46vcore and the temps go 0°C :p: .
looks like we have a new winner under the hotty's :D , great work now get those containers off ur's and run some LN² :D

You should finish your containers :fact: :D
05-13-2007, 06:49 AM
-Acid-

Simply WOW!!!
05-13-2007, 07:12 AM
KTE

Quote:

Originally Posted by gunit

blame, not blaim.

Pedantic :rolleyes:
05-13-2007, 09:22 AM
metro.cl

Quote:

Originally Posted by NH|Delph1

The 30k picture was not suppose to be released until tomorrow, but I guess we can't do much about it now...

Sad that you can't trust people. :(

We have more though, but have taken precautions. I don't know what to say about this really.

//Andreas

It's bad that it happend but as far as i know non of this SS should have been posted if you signed an NDA.

Regards
05-13-2007, 10:37 AM
G H Z

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kinc

R600 is a ln2 baby for sure :D

Now I'm interested, great news kinc thanks! :toast:
05-13-2007, 10:45 AM
NH|Delph1

Quote:

Originally Posted by metro.cl

It's bad that it happend but as far as i know non of this SS should have been posted if you signed an NDA.

Regards

Indeed, but there has been no mention what so ever from our behalf what card we're talking about. This unnamed VGA card is way overdue and not offering a peek at what we're about to embark upon seems like an even bigger crime. ;)
Besides if I know my ATI, we (and by we I mean the enthusiasts) are truly loved by ATI. There's nothing they love more than seeing us push their hardware further and further ;)

//Andreas
05-13-2007, 11:03 AM
IvanAndreevich

Doesn't look too bad. I wonder how it will do in games.

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