BIOSTAR TFORCE 550 and Athlon 64 X2 3600+ Brisbane 1.9GHz OC!!!

I built 2 Comps for my friends based on the
AMD Athlon 64 X2 3600+ Brisbane 1.9GHz
BIOSTAR TFORCE 550 Socket AM2 NVIDIA nForce 550 MCP
combo at newegg for $150 bucks and this is my result 10 minutes after power on
http://justoverclockit.com/pics/T-Force.png:cool:
I didn't even try.... the one before this one was on a weaker power supply and memory so it went to 2.5. this one booted and 3.0 no problem. I just left it there like this for my friend a little over volted just in case. no time to test.GO AMD :toast:

not bad, what v.core.

Guessing 1.47, take a look @ CPU-Z ;)

I've been thinking about getting this same deal. Nice job.

I think I am going go ahead and order that setup.

What RAM are you using in this setup?

wow i was just looking into this board and cpu. maybe i will go get one:D or 10 for the grid:D nice results man!!

I really think this CPU is the best bang for buck atm.

Sure, the K8 architecture means it falls behind a 4300 performance wise at these clocks, but its also half the price!


Nice OC

1.4 bios i upped it just in case because im not testing it to the max. the mem is corsair xms 2 6400 C4 its fine at 1.35 just not enogh testing to be sure. also upped the NB,Hypetransport by 0.05

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I really think this CPU is the best bang for buck atm.

Sure, the K8 architecture means it falls behind a 4300 performance wise at these clocks, but its also half the price!


Nice OC

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This CPU at 2.8 is as fast as an E6600 give or take.:)

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Originally Posted by brentpresley

Yes, but that is comparing stock to overclocked. :slap:

Not a fair comparison. ;)

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Yeah and comparison of new improved Yonah arch. with K8 is not fair either ;).
Just remember these words when Barcelona vs Penryn arrives :).You'll have higher clocked(although stock) Yorkfields VS server Barca k10 chips working on low clocks :).

But my point is that you get a performance of a stock 6600 for $150 with a MB :fact: not bad

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LOL. The ONLY thing that is fair is this:

1) compare stock to stock, not including price OR
2) compare OC to OC, not including price OR
3) compare what you can buy with X $$$ from either.

My POINT is you can only compare ONE VARIABLE. Beyond that the comparison is MEANINGLESS.

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Relax Brent,no need for caps.We are all grown ups here,aren't we?
My point is that Merom architecture has an advantage over Hammer at some degree that Hammer needs higher clocks to compensate that.BTW Brisbane 3600+ is hovering around 100 bucks and with a Biostar Tforce mobo costs around the same price as the E4300! So if you OC both and say,you reach 3Ghz with good air cooling with both,do you think that you would notice in every day work the IPC advantage of Conroe over that Brisbane(if we suppose you run a single GPU configuration)?I seriously doubt(excluding the SSE optimized apps).

Nice OC and thanks for the pics.

You have linky Brent? Are these 65nm and 512 cache x 2?

the problem was mentioning an intel cpu. UNfortunatly it started a bull:banana::banana::banana::banana: fight.

maybe change it to 'fx62' speeds, since it's not really as fast as a 6600 anyway.. when it reaches 3gig perhaps.

Let's assume it was though, Brent I don't see the problem with his comment. It went without saying he was refering to a stock 6600 as a benchmark. :)

to me it's just like someone saying their 6300 @ 3 (or 3.2 to be fair) is now at X6800 speeds.

You mentioned a Newegg combo... I look 4 it! :)

is that this CPU and the board for it is less than the cheapest C2D you can get. and the performance is nice for the buck spent. I posted this to show people just that. I use a C2D myself and I know OCed they blow everything out of the water. But this combo is perfect for someone on a really tight budget. a whole PC with a monitor for ~$700 that will play the latest games is pretty good.

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is that this CPU and the board for it is less than the cheapest C2D you can get. and the performance is nice for the buck spent. I posted this to show people just that. I use a C2D myself and I know OCed they blow everything out of the water. But this combo is perfect for someone on a really tight budget. a whole PC with a monitor for ~$700 that will play the latest games is pretty good.

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Exactly.:toast:

3 GHZ
http://justoverclockit.com/pics/IMG_1289.jpg
http://justoverclockit.com/pics/IMG_1291.jpg

My friend hates vista. Everything seems stable.:toast:

I will post SIS Sandra and Super Pi benchmarks at 3 GHZ. any requests?

Yes please :): Cinebench 9.5 and 3dmark 06 CPU score.

Tnx

http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=174728

Cinebench 9.5
http://justoverclockit.com/pics/TFcin.PNG
3dMark06
http://justoverclockit.com/pics/TFMark.PNG
To compare here is my C2D E6400 @3.2 with the same exact Video Card 3D Mark.
http://justoverclockit.com/pics/50697600gt.JPG
Hmmm...AMD has my full attention.....

http://justoverclockit.com/pics/Tsan1.PNG
http://justoverclockit.com/pics/Tsan2.PNG
http://justoverclockit.com/pics/Tsan3.PNG

:cool:

I ordered this combo...but my only pci-e video card died...wtf...waiting on my next paycheck now.

What voltage are you up to now ruslan?

I've been running 1.52v vcore 24/7 on this 4000+ brisbane whilst I do some long term comparitive game tests over a few weeks @ 3gig. It's actually quite cool still at these voltages compared to a windsor at say 1.45 so you should be able to push it with good cooling if you're not allready.

Try running clockgen if you just want to validate some high clocks :)

the voltage is 1.45 in bios

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yo yo yo - I wasn't threadcrapping. I already said nice OC and nice bang for buck.

I just thought the comparison was a bit invalid. That's all.

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I personally don't think that its a bad comparison. E6600 runs what 350 bucks? This processor runs 100 bucks. The comparison, was for 100 bucks, it overclocks well enough to keep up with a stock E6600. It seems valid to me.


Its like saying my car, which is 4,000 dollars, w/ 5,000 dollars of mods, keeps up with a Corvette Z06, a car that cost 60,000 dollars. Thats a damn good value, I get the speed and handling of the Corvette for 9000 dollars.

Seems very valid to me.

~Mike

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In theory this is a great idea. In practice it is nearly impossible.

To do this you would have to get EVERYONE to agree on some measure of performance and use that in your calculations.

Considering that NO ONE will agree on this (Intel guys would want SuperPi and other cache and integer intensive apps, AMD guys would be heavily skewed toward memory intensive apps) this will not happen.

You could say AMD is 2X bang for buck in FPU and memory intensive code, and then with the EXACT same setup run some benchmarks in which the C2D setup spanks the living CRAP out of the AMD setup in video encoding.

This is been the GREATEST problem facing benchmark writers for over a decade. What code to include/not include in a benchmark, and they how the different code should be weighted to come to a number that defines over system performance (and you need ONE number if you are going to calculate a Bang to Buck Ratio like you propose).

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I understand where you are coming from... but this is a rough analysis.
So roughly this combo keeps up with a stock E6600... give or take... Not a peeing contest in every category. I will also like to add that this is faster than the stock E4300 and E6300 and E6400. Again Roughly.:fact:

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Sure, I agree. OC vs. stock it is faster. But who here on XS buys one of these and does NOT OC it?

OC vs. OC for guys like us a far more valid comparison, but I do get you point.

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Those that are on a budget here at XS would probably like to know what this thing is capable of. also everyone here at XS KNOWS that an OCed C2D will wipe the floor with this CPU. Also I'm sure EVERYONE here knows what I was trying to say by comparing this to a stock C2D. One more thing to decently OC a C2D you NEED to invest ALOT more money than you would in this box. I would say around 2.4X the amount of cash.

But the whole combo is $149.99 shipped Or (Intel) ~150 + 120 = 270 dollars. Its still WAY out of this price range. This is what they were commenting on.

We know that conroe is ~25% faster depending on applications. But you still have to pay for performance. The guy already bought this combo, It kinda sucks that everybody shoots people down that maybe cant afford as much as other people. Im the kind of person that will buy a an AMD 4000+ and overclock it to FX-62 Speeds(2.8GHz) and say thats a great value, a 150 dollar CPU that runs JUST as fast as a FX-62(450.00)... Cant beat that. Of course the FX-62 overclock should run faster than the 150 dollar CPU, it cost more. but value wise, the 4000+ is a good value. Regardless if its Intel, AMD, or VIA.

So its okay to compare a 10,000 dollar setup with a 20,000 dollar setup, or maybe a 1,000 dollar setup with a 2,000 dollar setup? I don't think compairing this to a system that roughly cost 180% more than it does.

What the OP is trying to say, for 150 bucks, you cant beat the performance you get. for 150 dollars you get performance that of a E6600 on a Gigabyte DS3(~500 dollars)

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Or i could say this:

E4300 is ~$150, and Gigabyte DS3 is about $120.

The E4300 will hit 3.3-3.5GHz EASILY because of it's high divider. At that speed you are getting at LEAST 25% more performance (again, depending on application) than the 3GHz Brisbane. For $120.

So, it comes down to this, is the 25% worth $120? That is something someone should ask himself.

It's not comparing a $500 setup to a $150 one, it is comparing a $270 setup to a $150 one.

For some, $120 is chump change. For others it is a LOT of money. Depends on the user.

Bang for buck, I would say the AMD edges it out unless you REALLY want that 25% extra performance that you just can't get from an AMD setup without going to dual sockets.

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Hrmmm.. I was actually saying its 1.8 times more. carry the decimel over 2 times to the right = 180%. I also checked my math 150 + 180% = 270

You can also check it at your computer by pushing (Windows sign) + r type in calc , and type in the numbers like so 150 + 180 and hit the percent sign. comes up to 270.

~Mike

yes, but its 150(AMD) 270(Intel) not 120 and 150. so I set AMD @ 150 dollars as the base line, there in, 270 dollars of 150 is 1.8 which makes it 180% higher price than AMD's (baseline)

~Mike

I must have went to the wrong college, that or I forget everything i learned. I need to break out the books again. I'm usually pretty good with math. Now im all disorientated.

Intel Core 2 Duo E6600 Conroe 2.4GHz 4M shared L2 Cache LGA 775 Processor - Retail $313.00
GIGABYTE GA-965P-DS3 LGA 775 Intel G965 Express ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail $122.99
Total:$435.99

AMD Athlon 64 X2 3600+ Brisbane 1.9GHz Socket AM2 Processor Model ADO3600IAA5DL - OEM
BIOSTAR TFORCE 550 Socket AM2 NVIDIA nForce 550 MCP ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail $150
KINGWIN BA-12 120mm Ball CPU Cooler - Retail $25.99 Awesome Cooler BTW
Total:$175.99


Assuming the rest of the components are they same.
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I must have went to the wrong college, that or I forget everything i learned. I need to break out the books again. I'm usually pretty good with math. Now im all disorientated.

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your math is off....
10 + 100% = 20
10 + 80% = 18
10 + 180% = 28
10 x 1.8 = 18
10 x 2 = 20
10 x 2.8 = 28

but yeah, can't beat $150 cpu/mobo combo performing roughly the same as the E6600, which lists at $313 for the cpu alone at the same store...

it's like this, you can get a cpu, or you can get a cpu/mobo/2gb ddr2 800ram, ro cpu/mobo/psu/case or cpu/mobo/decent vid card, and all these combinations, when oc'd, will gain you similar performance cpu to cpu

i think that's awesome, and wondering if i can mod my SS to a water chiller myself....to avoid cold bug of course

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Originally Posted by brentpresley

Replace the Intel chip w/ an E4300 for ~$150. That is a much more VALID comparison.

Otherwise I'm going to start posting how an overclocked E4300 can spank the living crap out of a stock FX-6x. :fact:

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It will be about ~$120 more for the C2D E4300... to some that is a difference ;)
By the was the E4300 is the crap of the bunch.
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...ighlight=e4300

Case Closed !

my new system that i ordered has the most bang for the buck that i have ever seen

opteron 1212 $90 shipped
Biostar tforce 6100 am2 $46 shipped
1gb ADATA PC2 6400 $70 shipped
Arctic A64 Freezer Pro $13 shipped

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my new system that i ordered has the most bang for the buck that i have ever seen

opteron 1212 $90 shipped
Biostar tforce 6100 am2 $46 shipped
1gb ADATA PC2 6400 $70 shipped
Arctic A64 Freezer Pro $13 shipped

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Thats a good one for the price!

yeah very good price.

~Mike

And I settled for a clock of 2.85 GHZ as my final clock for this box for a few reasons.
1. the voltage is low. (1.4 in bios)
the rest of the voltages are + .05 to the NB and HT. mem is at 2.1
so thats 300 X 9.5.
The CPU cooling choice I made for this box is horrible.
ASUS Chilly Vent Lux 80mm Sleeve CPU Cooler.
It was a very bad choice but I really wanted to see it.
Like I said before I built 2 of these slightly different from one another and I'm very pleased with the results. I booted into windows at 3.170 (333X9.5) sorry dint take a screen shot. running at that speed makes very little difference for everyday use. The perfect system for when your friend comes to you and says I have $600 to spend.

i almost bought that a data for my system until i found a better value, i got a stick of 1gb stick of original micron pc2 6400 cl5 for $68 shipped, now thats value!!

Imho for the price point, this is the best deal you can get. I think the comparison to a Core 2 Duo by itself is a valid one. When I can get a motherboard, cpu and 2 gigs of ram for the price of an E6600, and get 70-80% of the performance its pretty obvious to me which is the better bang for the buck.

Now for those who don't consider $120 to be a lot of money, why would they be considering this combo in the first place. I had a decision to make between getting an E4300 and this combo, and I figured that I could get the X2 and get 2gb of ram for less than an E4300 system that at best would be 20% faster.

I don't think that the point was that this combo was a better choice than an E6600, just pointing out how much one could get for that price. I know the fact that an E4300 cost more than this combo factored in a great deal with my decision.

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Imho for the price point, this is the best deal you can get. I think the comparison to a Core 2 Duo by itself is a valid one. When I can get a motherboard, cpu and 2 gigs of ram for the price of an E6600, and get 70-80% of the performance its pretty obvious to me which is the better bang for the buck.

Now for those who don't consider $120 to be a lot of money, why would they be considering this combo in the first place. I had a decision to make between getting an E4300 and this combo, and I figured that I could get the X2 and get 2gb of ram for less than an E4300 system that at best would be 20% faster.

I don't think that the point was that this combo was a better choice than an E6600, just pointing out how much one could get for that price. I know the fact that an E4300 cost more than this combo factored in a great deal with my decision.

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Getting this and a better Video card is better than an E6600 or even a E6400 if your on a budget. if not then well...:slobber: E6600

*sigh*

Please guys, can't we keep an AMD thread clean of intel, just for once.... Haven't we argued this stuff out enough already?

Why don't we keep the thread on topic. Those are nice clocks. Maybe I missed it, but what cooling is this under?

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*sigh*

Please guys, can't we keep an AMD thread clean of intel, just for once.... Haven't we argued this stuff out enough already?

Why don't we keep the thread on topic. Those are nice clocks. Maybe I missed it, but what cooling is this under?

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The cooling is this:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835101005
It's horrible. but the cpu runs soo cool it will not pass 46 cel. it has a really flat surface.
http://justoverclockit.com/pics/IMG_1291.jpg

As for keeping the thread clean it is very unlikely for plenty of reasons ;)

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The cooling is this:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835101005
It's horrible. but the cpu runs soo cool it will not pass 46 cel. it has a really flat surface.
http://justoverclockit.com/pics/IMG_1291.jpg

As for keeping the thread clean it is very unlikely for plenty of reasons ;)

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Hey, at least it matches your mobo colors pretty well :p:

Yeah I know it is unlikely, but still, can't we try.... How about this, we start small - 24 hours with no amd-intel bashing back and forth in either the AMD or the Intel section, instead duke it out in gen hardware if you so desire. Hmm that may be asking a bit much.... :rolleyes: :p:

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The cooling is this:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835101005
It's horrible. but the cpu runs soo cool it will not pass 46 cel. it has a really flat surface.
http://justoverclockit.com/pics/IMG_1291.jpg

As for keeping the thread clean it is very unlikely for plenty of reasons ;)

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Ah the intel fans are just jealous cos the Brisbanes are just such a good value for the buck :D.

You said 46 deg. cel.?Wow those are very cool temps.,these die shrinks are looking very very good.

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Ah the intel fans are just jealous cos the Brisbanes are just such a good value for the buck :D.

You said 46 deg. cel.?Wow those are very cool temps.,these die shrinks are looking very very good.

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Yea the value can't be beat. I'm not longer a fan of AMD or Intel for a good reason. They are multi billion dollar company's who are really duking it out and when one beats the other in performance the one thats beat will work hard to get back on top so only we win. so GO AMD and GO INTEL !:up: Let them compete for our hard earned cash. Thanks AMD for pioneering the X86-64 and being there for us during the dreadful Netburst era and for "Inspiring" Intel to build the Core Architecture. And thank you Intel for your Core Architecture.
:toast:

I think its safe to say that the Tforce 550 ver 1.3 is a much better board than the ver 1.0 because the ver 1.0s I had (two of them) didn't like much above 275 htt but these are friendly well beyond that.

Well I have seen plenty of people get past 275HTT on a 1.0 board (including myself, I was doing 305HTT), but I do agree that the 1.3 is an overall better board. The main reason is that they changed the vdimm power supply from a linear supply to a switching one so that the mosfets don't get incredibly hot.

AMD are awesome if you want to build a compact M-ATX system... Is it me or does the Brisbane core 3600+ come with 2x 512k cache and a 9.5x multi :confused:

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I ALREADY said that to some $120 is a LOT of money, to others it is not. Depends on circumstance.

Also, the E4300 OCed STILL is faster than any K8 (suicide shots not included).

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brent,

Why do you always come into AMD threads and troll?

You Intel guys really do make me sick, here you have again wrecked a good thread, with your crap.

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LOL.

How do you know I'm an Intel guy? Just because I STATE THE OBVIOUS? :stick:


1) I already SAID this was a GREAT bang for your buck.
2) 1/2 the discussion in this thread was because Mike can't do math (no offense mike).
3) And WHAT, PRAY TELL, did you contribute to this thread that was constructive?

Did you happen to notice that I was NOT the one that brought up C2D? No, guess that SLIPPED past you.

So let me get this straight - it's OK for someone else to bring C2D in an AMD thread, but I can't REPLY to their comment? :stick:

Sure buddy. Whatever.


And for the record, I own 2X as many AMD systems as Intel systems. So how does that make me an "Intel guy"?

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Because there is one problem always continueing. You have to 100% worship AMD products or you are a troll/fanboy/flamer/idiot etc. Its all due to the fact AMD is the small dog and we all have to stand up for AMD nomatter what and nomatter the cost.

That the fighting between AMD and Intel will be just as fierce as the fanboy fights here. that way we all get the best CPU's for cheap.

amd cpu's just keep getting cheaper and cheaper

I'm about to build a 3rd system based on this combo and I will post the results. Here is an exact components list.
MB BIOSTAR TFORCE 550 GF550 AM2
CPU AMD|A64 X2 3600+ AM2 1.9G 65N
PSU CM|RP-550-PCAR 550W RT
HD 250G|WD 7K 16M SATA2 WD2500KS
DVD_BURN LITE-ON|LH-20A1H-185 BK
ADD CARD SYBA|SD-VIA-FW1E1H 1394A R
CASE COOMAS|CAC-T05-UB BLK/BL RT
CARD RD ROSEWILL|RCR-103 RTL
512Mx2|WINTEC 3AXT6400C5-1024K
KINGWIN|BA-12
And a EVGA GeForce 7300 GT 256MB

I will lap all the heatsinks to 600 grit and the IHS and reapply with Arctic Silver 5.
:woot:

I got Version 5.0
It is labeled ad SE so that has to be good :)

Link to pics and results will be here by saturday
:toast:

http://justoverclockit.com/pics/T-Force550/

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AMD are awesome if you want to build a compact M-ATX system... Is it me or does the Brisbane core 3600+ come with 2x 512k cache and a 9.5x multi :confused:

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Yup, I have a Ultra Micro-Fly with Abit nf-m2-nview and a 3600 Brisbane running 3ghz for the last couple months or so. My favorite system build by far. Small and compact but still with loads of power...


Ply

Gotta say that's an awesome combo, ive been strugling to get the money for a cheapo C2D setup (on budget due to ex-wife ripping me off lol), aint gonna do that after seing this thread, hell i may even be able to afford a new gfx aswell, too bad i cant order one of those combos as im european, but price difference aint that big tho, will be interesting putting one of them cpus to the test with some serious wc :D

http://justoverclockit.com/pics/T2/IMG_1322.jpg
http://justoverclockit.com/pics/T2/IMG_1327.jpg
http://justoverclockit.com/pics/T2/IMG_1324.jpg
http://justoverclockit.com/pics/T2/IMG_1325.jpg

The same exact settings and the same exact results. This one however boots at 333 HT. so that gives it a speed of 3170. I have no time to test it to the bleeding edge. So thats 2 for 2 at 2.85 GHZ 24/7 Stable and one at 2.5 GHZ stable (the one with the 400 watt cheap power supply.)

Here:fact:
I love that temp. 38C orthos Lapped the heatsink and the IHS to 600 grit

Nice, you aren't going to try for 3ghz? Mine seems to hit a brick wall at 306HTT, anything further than that is just completely unstable.

I tried 3 GHZ but that not 100% thats like 80% stable (Runs orthos for ~15 minutes and crashes randomly under load.) This speed is good for this hardware and so no complaints. I don't have the computer anymore so no more testing until I get another order.

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I got Version 5.0
It is labeled ad SE so that has to be good :)

Link to pics and results will be here by saturday
:toast:

http://justoverclockit.com/pics/T-Force550/

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OMG WTF? 5.0 SE? lol.

Did you get that from the egg? Any apparent differences from 1.3?

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OMG WTF? 5.0 SE? lol.

Did you get that from the egg? Any apparent differences from 1.3?

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Yes I got it from the egg along with the new 3600+. I didn't pay attention to the PCB physically but it seems to be capable of running at higher HT speeds more stable. For example I was able to boot at 333 X 3 no problem. on the previous board that didn't happen no matter how I begged so it is a good sign. go back to my earlier pics and compare them, with the new one see if you can spot something. I'll do that right now maybe I'll spot something. The reason why I didn't post the pics of 333 x 3 is because it was not stable. If it is not 100% stable it is useless and totally pointless. :fact: I would also like to point out that these systems feel "snappier" than C2D systems because of tighter timings and a better memory architecture on AMD's part. releasing this CPU is the best thing AMD has done this year.

http://justoverclockit.com/pics/T-Force550/diff/old.JPG
http://justoverclockit.com/pics/T-Force550/diff/new.JPG
http://justoverclockit.com/pics/T-Force550/diff/T1.JPG
http://justoverclockit.com/pics/T-Force550/diff/T2.JPG
The settings in the BIOS are identical.

color me jealous. I ordered mine 3/8 and it was the 1.3. Maybe I can get them to let me return this one! lol

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color me jealous. I ordered mine 3/8 and it was the 1.3. Maybe I can get them to let me return this one! lol

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Almost the same thing. Who knows doe some testing before returning anything. They are almost the same Especially the end result.

If you are doing HT 300 stable keep your board and don't risk it.

oh I have been testing. This combo does seem to be stable at 3GHz (while its still early spring anyway).

Thing is to run a 3GHz. I have to run my DDR2-800 (Corsair 6400C4) ram at DDR2-600 though with 2.1 volts. The divider is set to 400 and if I move it to 533 it won't boot. And I'm not going to give this ram 2.4. When I ran at 2.38GHz I could run the ram at DDR2-950 at 2.1 volts!

im having similar issues with ram and the cpu. I can get to 2.85 ghz fine on the 533 divider but 667 wont work. Funny mem controller.

Does anyone know what is the closest board available that is most similar to the BIOSTAR TFORCE 550 GF550 AM2 board as it is not available in AU :slapass:

Thanks anyway but found after a search, looks like a great rig for the price and I will definitely look at this option the next build :toast:

What is max V for memory?

Nice results btw!

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What is max V for memory?

Nice results btw!

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Max in BIOS is 2.1

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Max in BIOS is 2.1

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With jumper up to 2.4V?
I have a TForce 570U Rev. 5.x :) I think it's more or less same as yours. I will try to post my pic later.

Yea, jumper sets it to 2.4V on versions 1.3 and up (2.2V on lower versions).

LOL the layout is different...
http://img6.picsplace.to/img6/27/thumbs/mobo.JPG

Ah, I thought you had said Tforce550 5.x, I looked at your picture and was going crazy because they had completely changed the board lol. Not only is layout different but it also has 2 more SATA ports and one more PCIE1X (I have no idea why, those slots remain essentially useless).

I just spent money on the 'egg thanks to you. I will be testing this monday hopefully.
AMD X2 3600+
2GB Super Talent DDR2
Biostar Tforce 550
Sythe Ninja

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I just spent money on the 'egg thanks to you. I will be testing this monday hopefully.
AMD X2 3600+
2GB Super Talent DDR2
Biostar Tforce 550
Sythe Ninja

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You won't regret it, That is a very fun combo. And all 3 of the builds I put together have no problems.:toast:

Another build on the way. This one I will use better memory than the other 3 builds!

mine

x2 3600 brisbane
abit kn9 ultra
2*1gb kingston value (hynix fp-y5)
noctua nh-u12f

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...Slide/3001.jpg

1.45V core, 2.3V on ram..lower V a no go for rams

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mine

x2 3600 brisbane
abit kn9 ultra
2*1gb kingston value (hynix fp-y5)
noctua nh-u12f

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...Slide/3001.jpg

1.45V core, 2.3V on ram..lower V a no go for rams

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:clap: I can only hope. It has always been a dream of mine to obtain 3ghz dual core on AMD, now it looks like I might. :toast:

What would be some good memory to get with this setup?

Currently I am getting the CORSAIR XMS2 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model TWIN2X2048-6400C4 - Retail from the 'egg.

I am hoping to get 3Ghz stable on the build, so I will need a really good air cooler. Any suggestions on that as well?

KINGWIN BA-12 120mm
N82E16835124009

And this ram rocks
F2-6400PHU2-2GBHZ
N82E16820231065

Just out of curiosity, could you get ram thats rated at say DDR2 1200 (PC2 9600) and run it in this board, would it allow you more freedom to overclock, and not be limited by the RAM in anyway? I believe this ram requires 2.3 - 2.35v?

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KINGWIN BA-12 120mm
N82E16835124009

And this ram rocks
F2-6400PHU2-2GBHZ
N82E16820231065

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Thanks! :toast:

I will probably end up buying that cooler, unless a better alternative comes up. I really want to keep my CPU running as cool as possible using the best possible air cooling solution. I really wanted something that blows the air off to the side, but this may due.

That ram will not limit you overclock at all. It's D9 and I ran it at 1 Ghz with 2.15 volts no problem. and the best thing about that cooler is it cools the ram as well . look at my screen shot it is not going over 40C on orthos.:fact:

what week+stepping do you guys get on the new Brisbane cpu?
i've to collect some golden week+stepping and make a short list of buying guide till this Brisbane available in my country

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what week+stepping do you guys get on the new Brisbane cpu?
i've to collect some golden week+stepping and make a short list of buying guide till this Brisbane available in my country

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I'm sorry I didn't keep track of the week+stepping.

BTW guys this thing is 69$ OEM at the egg, with no need for a combo. Really you can not beat this. This thing is a steal now:)

Yea the price dropped 4 hours after I ordered :mad:

My combo is a mere 10 mins away from me now, but I cannot pick it up thanks to the customer center being closed on Sat. :(

$133.99 Thats a steal. On top of that all the ram prices dropped.

Custom cooling on the NB does wonders on the 550

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Custom cooling on the NB does wonders on the 550

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Really...suggestions? I've never used any custom cooling a NB before. I'm not sure what can fit with my 8800GTS

I am having some problems, it seems my ram is holding me back.

I am using SuperTalent ram @ 2.15v. It seems the second I go to 302mhz fsb the memory goes ape:banana::banana::banana::banana:. When I enable the DDR400 option in BIOS it wont even post, yet using DDR533 setting it will post. Any ideas here?

edit: BTW I know my HTT is at 1200mhz, even when I put it down to 3x multi the same problems persist.

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Custom cooling on the NB does wonders on the 550

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Details? Like what kind of custom cooling, temps before/after, and increased overclocking results?

From what I can tell it seems like my Northbridge is staying pretty chilly with the stock hs.

In my experiences an adequate solution is to remove the stock thermal pad and reseat the heat sink with AS5. The NB doesn't get too hot.:up:

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BTW guys this thing is 69$ OEM at the egg, with no need for a combo. Really you can not beat this. This thing is a steal now:)

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It's $65 dollars for the OEM version now, plus a free game!

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I am having some problems, it seems my ram is holding me back.

I am using SuperTalent ram @ 2.15v. It seems the second I go to 302mhz fsb the memory goes ape:banana::banana::banana::banana:. When I enable the DDR400 option in BIOS it wont even post, yet using DDR533 setting it will post. Any ideas here?

edit: BTW I know my HTT is at 1200mhz, even when I put it down to 3x multi the same problems persist.

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Interesting, someone else on rebelshaven had the same problem, so I decided to try the 533 divider myself (even though I had to really loosen the timings with my valueram), and now I am fairly stable at 3ghz (still testing), whereas before I couldn't even pass a 1m SuperPi at 2.95.

What are the SPD ratings for your ram? Maybe you could try the 6-6-6-15 timings I am running right now with the 533 divider.