For those of you that don't have it here it is called TAT
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a1...handle/tat.jpg
This program is hard to find as it's not available from Intel as of yet...I checked...
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For those of you that don't have it here it is called TAT
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a1...handle/tat.jpg
This program is hard to find as it's not available from Intel as of yet...I checked...
does not work on my 805D. i take it this is C2D only.
i dont understand, you can change the workload level? like make it run at 50% max or something?
It will simulate a work load so you can gauge temps. From what I can tell its the same as core temp, so I use core temp, smaller footprint etc....
It see my CD2 as a Pentium M core, so mabey just newer chips and not the P4 chips??
I've tried it and TAT shows 2C less temp than Core Temp so I like TAT more :D
I'm getting 2-3 degrees C less than CoreTemp.
Set max workload to test your max temp, and for sure the temps will go way higher than Orthos with small FFT's, theres no other way i know of to stress a CPU this much.Quote:
Originally Posted by AndrewZorn
And you can also set a throttling level to reduce the processors performance to a preset percentage, up to 87.5% throttling. Apps will run quite slow if you set both cores to 87.5% throttle =)
What makes TAT more useful than CoreTemp is the throttlewatch, i posted a screenie in another thread not long ago, this is what happened 2 minutes after CPU fan was disconnected (3.6GHz E6600 at 1.6volt):
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...1&d=1157889935
as much as we would like to use this, it was designed for the mobil core...might be close but not exact...
Ace-a-rue, Merom and Conroe have the same cores, i cant see what makes a big difference. Merom has lower FSB, and what else is different?
Edit: In task manager, when running TAT stresstest, it shows up as MeromMaxPowerVer0p3, in the folder its installed there is another file for Core Duo, YonahMaxPowerVer1p0.exe.
I think you can use this thing for anything, it will report the temps, besides it is close to Everest. so how bad could it be if it is from Intel, and somehow i doubt anyone would be stupid enough not to design this software to handle more than one type of CPU.
It won't run at all with my E6600, P5W-DH etc... the dialog comes up asking me to agree, I hit agree, and the program exits...
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bad OC?:DQuote:
Originally Posted by taemun
nar its the same at stock or oc'dQuote:
Originally Posted by Eastcoasthandle
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Originally Posted by taemun
Weird, works fine on mine, same system.
(Hello everyone by the way.)
:welcome:Quote:
Originally Posted by eallan
ThanksQuote:
Originally Posted by Eastcoasthandle
You guys have quite the selection of smileys haha.:gay:
Hmm .... you guys are all running XP? I'm running Windows 2003... (there is some killer pricing on it for educational purposes :D)
Anyone out there with 2003 x86 (32-bit) and working / not working?
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hotter than orthos!? wow... this combined with the fact that the 'core' probe is deeper than a normal die sensor... no wonder AMD fans think even the 65nm conroe runs hotter than an AX2 (not that it DOESNT, im not sure, but it doesnt run as hot as they think)Quote:
Originally Posted by ted3
anyway the throttling sounds interesting.
so i could say, cut it to 50% clockspeed if it gets to 70*C? do you have to let this program run in the background? is there a way to reduce voltage (reducing clockspeed only wont help much)?
Welcome Eallan :)
Yeah, it's fine on my E6600, P5W DH, and GSkill HZ Ram.
Chipped clocked to only 3.33gig (370fsb 1:1), watercooled, and when using TAT thermal testing tool, temps stabilize around 47 deg C core 1, and 45 for core 2.
TAT reads 1 deg C lower on both cores vs Coretemp.
Very nifty little app, thanx Intel :)
Orthos will only take temps up to around 38-40 on water, this is quite a bit more intensive. Good stability checker I would say.
Does not work @ server 2003
The on-demand throttling isnt something most people want to use i think :) I guess its just there for testing purposes, like the name of the app indicates its an "analysing tool". Temps will drop quite a bit when setting throttle, but as my little test without cpu fan showed, the cpu will throttle itself down when going above 85c as a safety meassure. As long as you can run TAT for 5-10 minutes at dual 100% worklevel without throttling you are safe, if it aint broken dont fix it! High temps are nothing to worry about, throttling is what we dont want. The reduction of voltage will still be the job of C1E, dont know if theres a way to do that on demand, probably not.Quote:
Originally Posted by AndrewZorn
Just on a sidenote, please ask before you paste a link to my home server again :shakes:
But on the good side, you didn´t link my picture directly.
But else, its the best tool. And it will never be a public download, since its for OEMs internal testing only.
AMD fans think Conroe runs hot because they have no clue how hot their 100W+ Athlons really run. It doesn't help that so many Conroe users mistakenly think that TAT and Core Temp readings are somehow comparable to other cpu temps, because they aren't.Quote:
Originally Posted by AndrewZorn
thats very true. my Scythe Mine's heatpipes do not even get warm under full load with my 6300@2.8GHZ@1.32 volts(bios) I think this is reading at the very heart of the core thus giving very accurate temps at that spot. Its cooler running than my old Opteron 165@2.7GHZ as I can feel the back dumping off much less heat.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fred_Pohl
Finally! Thank you. I'm so tired of reading opinions about how the bios, speedfan, easytune, etc. are reading some nonexistent mobo socket thermistor and that Core Temp, iTAT and Everest are reporting "true" on-die temps. While the second part may be true, it's important to understand that Core Temp, etc. are reading sensors that don't exist on any other cpu and are therefore not comparable. As for the socket thermistor theory, that's just plain BS. Every Intel CPU since the P2 has had an on-die thermal diode which has been read by the mobo to get the cpu temp.Quote:
Originally Posted by vengance_01
Nice to meet someone else who "gets it".
Has anyone else had success using this program?
yep , works with me , i already knew the program but this program its Old , dont even recognize corer2duo , we have to wait for a new version ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Eastcoasthandle
i use coretemp , a friend mine mesure the temps with sensors and it reads +- same temp as coretemp ;)
regards
works fine here. However i would like to know if there is a newer version of TAT available?
this is reporting ~15*C higher than speedfan. normal? i know its different sensors, the intel one being buried deeper... but still.
yes this is the program that consumers cannot get. I believe its only for system builders and such. Its supposedly able to stress the cpu beyond 100%, even tho thats not possible. I think i read it at xbitlabs or something. I finally have a hold of it!
I would be careful if I were you when using that program when stress testing...
i didnt set a workload, i just opened it to see the temps compared to speedfan... was this a mistake?
E6600 - P5W Deluxe here as well, and it doesn't run at all. Nothing happens.
EDIT: Same as below, this file is only 52 bytes.
Not working? All I get is a 52 byte file that won't execute
Why be careful when stresstesting with TAT? If a CPU cant pass this test then the system is unstable and some settings has to be changed.
Edit: The file should be 3.31MB. Maybe just temporary server problem, better try again later.
Downloaded from another source. Works fine. DTS info states that overheat interrupts are dissabled. Did TAT do this? Does this mean there's no safety net for this thing?
Is it possible for someone to download it and create a link for it?
Looks like someone over at Tech enclave has uploaded it to Rapidshare
The Rapidshare DL link
Sweet program, it works real well. Would be handy to put up on the screen while fine tuning waterblock mounts to find the best temp :)
I dl'ed it the other day, it installed ok, but wont run. I get this message:
Any advise?Quote:
Error enumerating on demand clock modulation support
Terminating tool
Here is a direct download link for TAT
http://www.hardware.fr/marc/TAT.exe
colfin22
I have the same board as you and I am getting the same error message.
mine worked just fine....does this crash computer.....dont want to crash computer....holy :banana::banana::banana::banana:
this things says my temp is 35-37...my bios and LAvalys say its like 42-45....
My temps are a few degrees higher with this than Core Temp. Think I'll leave Prime95 running over night and see what the temps are like in the morning, reached 67c after a couple of minutes 100% load that's with 1.48vcore. :eek:
EDIT: It seems this program stresses the processor more than Prime95 because with two instances of Prime running the max temp was 62c on core 1 and 60c on core 2, that was with Prime running for two hours.
TAT is showing 42C dual prime E6400 @ 3.2 GHZ / 1.45V with Big Typhoon.
Of course. TAT stresses the CPU as much as BurnBX (BurnP6.exe) did. And that was the most stressful program out there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jimi...
core temp and TAT give me identical numbers while TAT is running.
87 and 91c.... laptop with T7400ES.. :D
May I ask what should I do if it says "Invalid Processor". I have a P4 3.2ghz at this time. :confused:
Upgrade to a C2D processor.
Where I can download LATEST version of TAT? I have v2.05.2006.0427
Does not work with Xeon.
Does anybody know how cold this program can go ? will it do sub-zero ?
Doesn't seem to work with phase/ sub zero cooling. Is there any progs that will show core0 & core1 readings with phase?
Dosent work :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Nico
these two programs work perfectly in my sys. both temps are same with 1 degree of error.
my sys is 6600, asrock 775twins
jesus god, this thing burns cpus!
anyway to make it stress the second core?
well, now i know whatever is holding my overclock back at 3.2 isn't heat.
TAT doesn't work with my P5N32-E SLI... so i'm assuming it only works with mobos using Intel Chipsets (eg. i965, i975X etc..)
This Tool and CoreTemp give me similar temps:
Idle: 42-45C
Full load: 58-63C
but Giga and SpeedFan give me the temps that is 10C below:
Idle: 32-35C
Full load: 48-53C
I'm using E6300 OC @2.6Ghz with giga 965P-S3. I'm wondering which temp is right :mad:
TAT doesn't work on mine E6600 and DFI Infinity 975X/G. Any workaround ?
Both temps are correct, sort of. TAT and CoreTemp give you internal core temps which are much higher than the normal CPU temp readings that we're all used to seeing and EasyTune and Speedfan give you an approximation of the thermal junction (Tc) which is comparable to other CPU temp readings.
I don't get it (yet). Under Vapo LS, both TAT and Core Temp tell me my cores are 13C, no matter what load, yet IDCC (on Bad Axe rev 305) seems to correctly report -37C idle up to about -12C load with Orthos. Any ideas?
doesnt work on the P5N-E SLI. gives an error that it cant start the auto clock adjustments or something like that.
basically it cant throttle the cpu, sounds like it doesnt like that i have C1 and EIST and thermal throttling off.
Thanks for the info lestat, I was just about to try it. I do have everything turned on so I'll give it a quick double check just in case
interesting1
I have the same mobo & CPU and it doesn't work with me either. I get:Quote:
Originally Posted by tifozif1
Error enumerating on demand clock modulation support
Terminating tool
And then it decreases the CPUs clock speeds from 2.4Ghz to 1.6Ghz :< Any help?
doesnt work with my x6800 & asus striker board.
It needs an intel chipset, its an intel made software tool
Anybody know how accurate the temps are with TAT versus CoreTemp. My readings are actually close with both but just curious.
To make it work in 2003 try this (working for me -- originally not)Quote:
Originally Posted by taemun
Right click the setup.exe --> Properties --> compatibility --> Windows XP
Let TAT uninstall (if already installed) then reinstall.
BEFORE you run the program for the first time:
Right Click the shorcut on your desktop (or start menu)
--> properties --> compatibility mode --> choose Windows XP
Run TAT, it will detect wrong OS and close
right click shortcut again --> properties --> compatibility --> Windows 2000
It will now open.
PS: I'm not sure about the Windows XP to 2000 thing, that's just the exact steps I took. in other words you can probably just set the shortcut to 2000 from the get go, but you will still need to install it in XP compatibility mode.
How nice of the Intel hackers to name it "Yonah Power Virus", check the file properties, description! :nono:Quote:
Originally Posted by ted3
I'm trying to find TAT but I can't find it anywhere. I looked on Intel, but didn't see it. All I saw was the Intel Desktop utilties which I do not like.
Thanks!
Did you even look? Try post #1 from this thread...:slapass:
Forgot to add that the firewall here at work prevents me from downloading there. :( I can get it from Intel though...if I could find it...Quote:
Originally Posted by NWEng
Looks like this won't work with Win2k3 SP2... Trying to muck with it now.
I am also getting the error:
"Error enumerating On Demand Clock Modulation support.
Terminating Tool."
anyone know of a fix for this?
I am running a QX6700 on a Striker Extreme (Bios 1004).
Yeah if you want to heat up the CPU and see if your cooling is up to the task, TAT is the tool. It heats my CPU up more than Orthos.
I get this on my DFI 965 too. It's probably due to the P5B winstall tho...Quote:
Originally Posted by Bun-Bun
same here.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bun-Bun