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Anybody figure out how to boot the P5W DH faster?
I've tried Windows SP1 and SP2 and a stripped Windows, but most of the time I see those damn scrolling bars like six to ten times! Bootvis didn't help.. :banana::banana::banana::banana: this board takes forever to get into Windows >.>
I am using the 701 BIOS (or whatever).. I don't plan on flashing until I start overclocking, and I don't plan on overclocking until I get a Tuniq :P. Will I boot any faster with a newer BIOS?
If you are not using the secondary sata controller you can disable that. That would be a start.
mine takes forever too.
then again i gave up on trying to improve boot times (on any computer) a looooong time ago.
i mean honestly, youre looking at 15 extra seconds once a day (a couple times a day?) that you dont even need to be present for. im brushing my teeth when i turn on my computer.
Well I spend $250 on a motherboard and another $240 for an E6400.. and I wait longer for them to boot than I do a system that's worth like $80 (Neo2+2.4b).. Why spend more for less? It's the principle of the matter :P.Quote:
Originally Posted by AndrewZorn
I don't have any SATA drives yet. I'm trying to find some cheap ones to run in RAID. The P5W DH has SATA-II right? Can I run four SATA-II drives in RAID 0? Or is it just two?
The P5WDH seems to spend a long time looking for IDE drives.. and forever with those scrolling lines.. wtf is it loading >.>
I'm not using SATA at all. What exactly do I disable (like what's the name? The BIOS is weird..)Quote:
Originally Posted by adamant415
mine boots with 1.25 bars and i got windows XP loaded.
mine takes like 6-8 swings with the windows bar its bs with e6700 and it seems the further i oc the longer its taking to boot wierd eh?
If your bios is similar to the p5b deluxe then you would go to the advanced tab and look under onboard devices configuration. It would be listed as something similar to jmicron raid controller. You can disable that along with anything else in there you are not using. I would get atleast one sata drive as soon as possible. If you are not using sata then you have your cdrom and hdd on the same channel. The cdrom will slow down your hdd. There are many more things you can do that is just somewhere to start.Quote:
Originally Posted by richnewman
Just got this slow boot solved on my setup (different mobo, but same chipset) so it may be worth giving it a shot.
Go to device manager and open all the IDE chanell properties/Advanced settings...set every device not being used from "Auto detection" to "None".
My scrollbar went from 10 passes to about 1.2 after doing that :woot:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...b/boottime.jpg
WOW! You are :banana::banana::banana::banana:ING AWESOME MAN! Did the same thing. Same exact effect!! Super fast loading times now, went from 10 to 1! Thanks a lot man.:toast:Quote:
Originally Posted by new-b
New-b rocks! You made my computer boot faster. Now what to do with that extra 10 secounds :-)
10secs * 2 * 356 = 118.666 minutes saved a year! ( i normally reboot/turn on once or twice a day)
Cool...glad it worked for you guys.
It seems this principle must apply to all motherboards. I have a question tho:
Do I have my hard drives plugged in wrong?
As can be seen from my Device Manager, I have 3 Primary IDE channels and 3 Secondary Channels.
My Main drive is Master on the second Primary IDE channel (UDMA5). My second drive is Master on the second Secondary IDE Channel (UDMA5). My DVD-RW is Master on the third Primary IDE Channel (UDMA4) and my DVDROM is Slave on the third IDE Channel (UDMA2).
Just wondering why the shop set the two drives up that way and why they aren't all using the Primary IDE channels?
Would it make the second drive faster?
cheers
woah, new-b, you're awesome. I have a gigabyte ds3 but your method works! 5-fold reduction in booting time. Thanks!
What week is ur E6400? Mine takes 1.4375 volts to get it prime stable at 3.2ghz. Also, how long did you prime for? Thanks in advance.Quote:
Originally Posted by cambrian
I always wondered why it took so many bars to get to windows yet windows itself seems to load the actual startup programs faster then with my AMD Opteron setup. Thanks for the tip!
Hi NoSinder,Quote:
Originally Posted by NoSinder
I should actually update my sig: My E6400 is a week 25. And the RAM I'm using currently is actually the Patriot 5300 LLK. It's way better than the HZ. I think the HZ is way too overhyped. I was able to overclock the patriot to 960 using 1.9V no problems. And it only costs a fraction of the price of the HZ. I was using the famous Asus P5B Deluxe for a while too but I had major problems with that board. I would require higher voltage and it wasn't even prime stable of 3 hours. I tried optimize all settings in the bios but to no avail. I believe the P5B deluxe's bios is still immature.
NOw I switched back to my old trusty DS3 and dual prime large FFT's stable for 12+ hours under 1.36 volts. Now the key to overclocking the DS3 is not to leave voltage settings at default or "normal". Leaving it at normal will cause it to upvoltage when you increase your FSB. I learned this the hard way after failing prime multiple times. Set everything to 0.1+ volt and you're set.
Hmm..cool. I have the same ram, but my CPU is week 24. Have you tried running blend test or Small FFTs yet? Thanks for the tips. :)
small fft's is perfectly stable. haven't tried blend yet. I think your chip being a week 24 is what limiting you. Maybe you can ebay that chip and get a week 27-28.
Yeah, just tried different settings and only at 1.4375v does it pass prime. But I did put my ram back to 1.9v instead of 2.1v and it's still stable, so that's good. It's not too bad though, it still idles at 34c and loads at 54c even at that cpu vcore.
Thanks for the tips but the selection can not be changed for me:Quote:
Originally Posted by new-b
http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/1040/clipwm6.jpg
What i have to do to make that thing selectable ?
@ Pumbaa If there is no device attached, it should be selectable (are you running raid?)....look at all of the primary and secondary IDE channels and see if any of them are not used by a device.
How'd you do that? :PQuote:
Originally Posted by Artmic
I have my hard drives in "EIDE" and my cdrom in "IDE".. Am I not supposed to? :PQuote:
Originally Posted by adamant415
I think it has something to do with which sata port ya use.....I have two HDD's, one is master on a primary and the other is slave on a secondary (even though nothing is attached as master) :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by therat
Thanks for the tip new-b. I tried this on my setup and it didn't seem to make a difference, although my boot times were fast enough before trying this. It didn't hurt anything so I'll leave these settings as you suggested:)Quote:
Originally Posted by new-b
I took new-b advice and I think it kinda help a little. Like right when the logon screen; the desktop shows immediately. Other than that most of the delay is still before the logon screen. I also set my IDE detect to 5 sec instead of 35 sec on default.
wow, i did that little trick now the bar scrolls by once instead of 5 or 6 times like it used to. thanks for the tip :)
To speedup my SO boot time i've disable the prefetch boot function so now i see half a scrolling annoying bar :stick:
i did the IDE thing...
not sure what i was getting before, but i just had a 13-slide bootup. i dont think it helped, at least, much...
ive never been good at boot times though. they bother me, but i dont bother making them faster (except when i owned a raptor).
spends too long in text-only screen nonetheless. 8secs maybe.
i tried this and i don't see much difference, but it was alreaddy pretty fast for me.
I also noticed you can't modify the channels with something attached, so if you have 2 ide drives and a cd/dvd there will not be much left to modify.
I have 5 sata drives and 1 ide dvd writer so i could set 3 channels to none.
try IDE HDD:)
Okay, I'm figuring this board out.. That tip helped to disable IDE :banana::banana::banana::banana: in Windows.
I don't usually use a burner, so I have an IDE hard drive hooked up through the JMicron crap (into Enhanced IDE port) using a round cable I bought, not the cables that came with the mobo.. those didn't seem to work.
I have less than one bar at the Windows logo scrolling crap, and at POST (I think that's what it's called) I don't see anything, it's too quick.. It just flies and hangs for a second where that stupid JMicron sh*t advertises itself, but then I'm almost instantly into Windows.
I'd like to get that stupid JMicron screen off. It hangs for like, two seconds unless you press a key. Anybody know how eliminate that?
lol i dont have any ide controllers listed.... i got 2 raid controllers listed...
Well I have a theory, it's "possible" those with a multi 12V rail maybe having this problem. Reason is that most PSU's do not switched from a fully saturated rail to the unused rai. Therefore in most cases the unused rail always go unused. While your PSU does have enough power to operate your system it's stuck using the staturated 12v rail causing slow ups, BSOD, freezing, etc. Must 12V multi rails are between 17A to 20A(on the high side and rare). Going from SATA to IDE may move you to the other rail, for example. I am not sure how to confirm which rail you are on. I am not saying this is the case with everyone.
Just my 2 coppers worth
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=114428
WOW!!! What a great tweak! This reduced my boot time to 2 bars! This needs a sticky!
Just stick it in the problems/fixes.
this does not work if you are running raid + cdrom??
If you want faster XP boot time bootvis has been known to work for some
So how, where and what are the side-effects, if any? :)Quote:
Originally Posted by GordonFreemanLP
I know this is not the right section but as to the topic of the thread check this out:
http://www.neowin.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=235571
A lot of nice (and somewhat obvious) suggestions in there.