X1950XTX 16k in 05 with stock air cooler

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08-23-2006, 09:51 AM
Kinc

X1950XTX 16k in 05 with stock air cooler

Early testing with X1950XTX with everything on air. Tower 120 on the 6700.

http://www.nordichardware.com/images/15900_alt.jpg

The current oc-tools is limiting the memclock, 1143MHz is max.
08-23-2006, 09:57 AM
rodman

Wow, spanks my card pretty bad, I don't think those clocks would work for stable gaming though. If they are I would be tempted to sell my card for 200 and pick up a 1950 for 200 more:p: I would have the card on water so maybe...
08-23-2006, 09:57 AM
guess2098

niceee :D
how's oc score hehe ( edit... nvm it is oc already )
08-23-2006, 10:02 AM
rodman

Will be interesting to see what the GDDR4 chips can do with added voltage and cooling.
08-23-2006, 10:04 AM
Kinc

Quote:

Originally Posted by rodman

Will be interesting to see what the GDDR4 chips can do with added voltage and cooling.

1143MHz is on default voltage :D
08-23-2006, 10:09 AM
Winterwind

nice score:)
now go for something colder and we all like new tool for higher mem oc:D
08-23-2006, 10:11 AM
Kinc

Oh I almost forgot, one other thing you will like:

http://www.kinc.se/nodamnbugftw.jpg

No Coldbug :)

Don't mind the clocks, waiting for the new ATItool before maxing it out.
08-23-2006, 10:12 AM
hicookie

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kinc

1143MHz is on default voltage :D

why i feel not gain too much with x1900xtx , how about 3D06?
08-23-2006, 10:13 AM
Winterwind

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kinc

No Coldbug :)

thats really nice :clap:
08-23-2006, 10:13 AM
hicookie

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kinc

Oh I almost forgot, one other thing you will like:

http://www.kinc.se/nodamnbugftw.jpg

No Coldbug :)

Don't mind the clocks, waiting for the new ATItool before maxing it out.

Great news,thanks:D
08-23-2006, 10:14 AM
Kinc

Quote:

Originally Posted by hicookie

why i feel not gain too much with x1900xtx , how about 3D06?

Because the oc-tool algorithm for the mem losens the timings badly :( There are people working to solve the problem. Still there is a nice gain VS a aircooled X1900XTX.
08-23-2006, 10:15 AM
Eastcoasthandle

Please do a 3D06 for us :)
08-23-2006, 10:17 AM
guess2098

well..... as i know.... G80 is much stronger than x1950 for now....
also... if 7950GX2 counts as one card.... it is better than x1950 too...

hey... but DI / LN2 on X1950 and not for 7950 lol

btw. i feel 3.9G C2D should hold up to 15000 3Dmak06 and about 30000 3Dmark05.... damn we need X1950 CF or Q-SLi heheheh
08-23-2006, 10:23 AM
Eastcoasthandle

Quote:

Originally Posted by guess2098

well..... as i know.... G80 is much stronger than x1950 for now....
also... if 7950GX2 counts as one card.... it is better than x1950 too...

hey... but DI / LN2 on X1950 and not for 7950 lol

btw. i feel 3.9G C2D should hold up to 15000 3Dmak06 and about 30000 3Dmark05.... damn we need X1950 CF or Q-SLi heheheh

^^Sorry but you are incorrect the 7950 does have 2 cards and uses 2 cores. I am not sure where you are basing your information from but its simply not correct. ATI has not followed suit on a dual core solution yet (bringing it to market). It's not simply better then 1950 its only a dual GPU that's better. If you want to make a comparison you have to look at the efficiency between the 2. To be honest if the 1950xtx does keep pace with a dual GPU 7950 its obvious that the x1950xtx is more efficient.
08-23-2006, 10:27 AM
Kinc

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eastcoasthandle

Please do a 3D06 for us :)

I will, be back later with the results. I will also try the 6.8 in 05 instead of the early driver I used. 6.8 has some perf increase in it. Wanna brake 16k all on air :)
08-23-2006, 10:46 AM
guess2098

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eastcoasthandle

^^Sorry but you are incorrect the 7950 does have 2 cards and uses 2 cores. I am not sure where you are basing your information from but its simply not correct. ATI has not followed suit on a dual core solution yet (bringing it to market). It's not simply better then 1950 its only a dual GPU that's better. If you want to make a comparison you have to look at the efficiency between the 2. To be honest if the 1950xtx does keep pace with a dual GPU 7950 its obvious that the x1950xtx is more efficient.

heheh yeah 2 core but use pci-e slot so i count it as one card. to me i don't care it is 2 core 4 core, as long as it gives better score.. that is what important to me. x1950 is targeting at the high end place right? if can't beats 7950 then that is bad..... as i know R600 is delay also.

but good thing is x1950 can do DI / LN2 and ram can do much higher with voltage pump in heheee(kinc show us 2.3v come on i can't wait to see 1300 / 2600 hehe)
08-23-2006, 10:52 AM
Staucher

no so more largely differentiated to a overclocked X1900XTX :rolleyes:
core duo yonah @3.1ghz and a 1900xtx 750/850 @7.1k you have 7.5k with this c2d and a X1950 ~400points :lol:
08-23-2006, 10:53 AM
Kinc

Quote:

Originally Posted by guess2098

but good thing is x1950 can do DI / LN2 and ram can do much higher with voltage pump in heheee(kinc show us 2.3v come on i can't wait to see 1300 / 2600 hehe)

That is not impossible but there is no oc tool that can set over 1143MHz atm. Over 1143 the performence drops to about 10fps.
08-23-2006, 10:54 AM
G H Z

Looks like a fun card to bench with a nice jump over X1900, in CF these cards are gonna score big. The missing coldbug is worth every penny.
08-23-2006, 10:58 AM
guess2098

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kinc

That is not impossible but there is no oc tool that can set over 1143MHz atm. Over 1143 the performence drops to about 10fps.

oh woow really? basiclly not enough voltage...... hummm

then..... vmod vmod heheeee

i will ask xV for how they did it
08-23-2006, 11:02 AM
Kinc

Quote:

Originally Posted by guess2098

oh woow really? basiclly not enough voltage...... hummm

then..... vmod vmod heheeee

Your not getting me. The voltage is at 1.9V for 1143MHz. I could set 2.48V but the problem is in the algorithm for the clock, the clockgen gets "corrupted" over 1143MHz.
08-23-2006, 11:05 AM
guess2098

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kinc

Your not getting me. The voltage is at 1.9V for 1143MHz. I could set 2.48V but the problem is in the algorithm for the clock, the clockgen gets "corrupted" over 1143MHz.

oh i see... finally i got you now

might be someone lies to me lol

but i will check what tool they used
08-23-2006, 11:08 AM
eva2000

-73C nice!

looking very good there :D
08-23-2006, 11:09 AM
hicookie

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kinc

That is not impossible but there is no oc tool that can set over 1143MHz atm. Over 1143 the performence drops to about 10fps.

Kinc, could u test 01 nature? im interesting in new GDD4:)
i think not far, new oc tool release out, hope it will solve the issues
08-23-2006, 11:10 AM
Kinc

Quote:

Originally Posted by eva2000

-73C nice!

looking very good there :D

Tested with another cascade. -92 in atitool is all good :)
08-23-2006, 11:12 AM
eva2000

poor card already freezing it's caps off hehe

where's the X1950CF ? :D

just noticed ati tool reporting 960A :eek: LOL
08-23-2006, 11:18 AM
Kinc

Quote:

Originally Posted by eva2000

poor card already freezing it's caps off hehe

where's the X1950CF ? :D

just noticed ati tool reporting 960A :eek: LOL

Only got a XTX. Will have to buy a master later on.
08-23-2006, 11:21 AM
M.Beier

Hmm :(

Doesnt seem like x1950XTX is worth buying...
what is this, 6-8% performance increase?
08-23-2006, 11:25 AM
hicookie

Quote:

Originally Posted by M.Beier

Hmm :(

Doesnt seem like x1950XTX is worth buying...
what is this, 6-8% performance increase?

maybe not,waitting new oc tool:)
btw, $↓499 worth that
08-23-2006, 11:30 AM
Pedro Rocha

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kinc

Oh I almost forgot, one other thing you will like:

No Coldbug :)

Don't mind the clocks, waiting for the new ATItool before maxing it out.

I'm sure like that ;)

That is :

http://hlperson.com/mt/archives/Great%20News.jpg

:D
08-23-2006, 11:35 AM
M.Beier

Yeah but, the romour, I know its only romour but still... That R600 is too hit the streets within 2006, and that sure as hell has alot of more power :(
08-23-2006, 11:47 AM
Kinc

Update:

http://www.nordichardware.com/images/16k_alt.jpg
08-23-2006, 11:55 AM
zakelwe

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kinc

Tested with another cascade. -92 in atitool is all good :)

Maybe macci had a quiet word ?

:D

Regards

Andy
08-23-2006, 12:04 PM
Gebba

very nice done kinc :)

16k on air is very fine,you most go for some extreme air in winter to :D
08-23-2006, 12:39 PM
Jort

Quote:

Originally Posted by zakelwe

Maybe macci had a quiet word ?

:D

Regards

Andy

he is watching :D

Quote:

Last Activity: Today 09:53 AM

;)
08-23-2006, 01:15 PM
zakelwe

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jort

he is watching :D

;)

My admiration for macci knows no bounds so I am glad he is still watching over us all from on high.

For the last 5 years there has been 4 people who have really been at the front and Sami is one of them. :toast:

Regards

Andy
08-23-2006, 01:33 PM
Hondo=TFD=

ATI Vendor Supplied Radeon X1950XTX Benchmarks Leaked

http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=3727
08-23-2006, 01:46 PM
Raiden Zero

Whats default VGPU on X1950XTX?
1.55V set for Benchs?

raiden
08-23-2006, 03:22 PM
Marioace

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raiden Zero

Whats default VGPU on X1950XTX?
1.55V set for Benchs?

raiden

same as X1900XTX
08-23-2006, 03:23 PM
wtkprol

cant wait to see you and crotale for some CF with these.
08-23-2006, 03:46 PM
Raiden Zero

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marioace

same as X1900XTX

k, thx.
so the only question left is if it was 1.55v set or just the program reporting wrong vgpu...

raiden
08-23-2006, 04:20 PM
Eastcoasthandle

reviews of the X1950xtx I do hope that Wiz is able to tighten up the mem a bit. You might see a nice boost in performance IMO.
08-23-2006, 07:25 PM
SIOUX

Very nice Kinc :toast: I hope scores and OC will improve with better OC tools, course i hit 16,6k in 05 with E6600ES 4ghz and XTX 813/980 :) :toast:
08-23-2006, 08:18 PM
NickS

Very nice result. I'm anxious to see results with a proper overclocking utility. :D
08-23-2006, 09:44 PM
Micutzu

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kinc

Oh I almost forgot, one other thing you will like:

No Coldbug :)

Great news, this puts ATI back in the game :woot: , 90k '01 & 30k '05 are getting closer.
08-27-2006, 05:35 PM
N3RO

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kinc

Update:

http://www.nordichardware.com/images/16k_alt.jpg

what's the clock of cpu?

i've 15268marks with my xfx 7950gx2 xxx (default) + opteron 170 @ 3000mhz

[]
08-27-2006, 09:22 PM
Revv23

Wow, thanks for this preview, i cant wait until they get a good oc tool working...

Makes me mad i just bought a 1900xt...
08-27-2006, 09:40 PM
ahmad

For 200 bones.. why would you be :p:

Nice. 16k on AIR, and a very low overclock. 3.00GHz memory coming soon? ;)
08-27-2006, 10:56 PM
[cTx]Philosophy

Nice clocks Kinc, every time I see this I think of myself this is half of my last name :P
Impressive I cant wait for my GX2 to get here so I can run it on 165 @ 2.9 and then on my conroe rig soon to come :P
08-27-2006, 11:55 PM
kiwi

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kinc

That is not impossible but there is no oc tool that can set over 1143MHz atm. Over 1143 the performence drops to about 10fps.

Have you tried setting only voltages with WinClk and changing clocks using ati tool beta 14. It won't show temps but you should be able to set any clock and it will keep tight timings
08-28-2006, 09:14 AM
Revv23

Quote:

Originally Posted by ahmad

For 200 bones.. why would you be :p:

Nice. 16k on AIR, and a very low overclock. 3.00GHz memory coming soon? ;)

Yeah good point. :p:
08-29-2006, 06:37 AM
Kinc

Quote:

Originally Posted by kiwi

Have you tried setting only voltages with WinClk and changing clocks using ati tool beta 14. It won't show temps but you should be able to set any clock and it will keep tight timings

Beta 14 doesnt work for GDDR4 :(
08-29-2006, 07:45 AM
Direwolf

rev2, you might have got an xt but its half the price of this card with similar performance overclocked :D.
08-31-2006, 10:24 AM
GLENBOY

hi there kinc , respect according to samsung the chips are good for 2400 on mem (1200mhz+)so i think in someones hands like yourself they'll be more in them once ati tool or whoever sorts the clocking tool out should be good
08-31-2006, 10:47 AM
tvdang7

so what does that make the mem chips? .4ns?
09-01-2006, 04:44 AM
LowRun

Quote:

Originally Posted by tvdang7

so what does that make the mem chips? .4ns?

0.9ns

http://www.iamxtreme.net/coolaler/GI...0%20XTX/12.JPG

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