Asus P5b / E6600 - Horrible performance from DVDrom

Hi all,

I just got my system up and running today:

Core 2 Duo e6600
Scythe Mine
Asus P5b
Evga 7900 GT KO
2x1GB Corsair XMS DDR2-6400
Raptor 150gb 16mb Cache
Samsung SH-S162L DVD Burner (IDE)

I'm getting very good performance out of the system (21second 1M superpi, very high fps in Battlefield 2 and Ut2k4).

There is one problem I am experiencing that is driving my crazy. When ever I install or copy something from the DVD drive my system stops to a crawl. The mouse is sparatic, music skips if I am playing an mp3 off of the hard drive etc. Everything goes back to normal when the cd/dvd is finished installing or copying.

I have the DVD rom plugged in to the only IDE connection that this motherboard has. Since my raptor is using a sata connection, is there some conflict with the IDE drive?

thanks

Jeff

Update the firmware of the DVD...

I don't think you should have any issues with IDE Sata etc.

Also what program are you using to copy the dvd?

sounds like u have the dvdrom in pio mode hehe and not in dma

How do you change these modes? I am also having the same problem. Were do you go to make these changes?

DVDrom firmware was updated using samsungs tool. Where do i change to PIO mode?

Jeff

Sounds like its running in PIO mode when it should be in DMA.

A bit like this.

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=108095

Yeah I read that. I don't see anything there that fixes it for the P5b.

Jeff

I have the same problem with my setup. P5B Deluxe, E6600, NEC 3550A

There I can't find a way to enable DMA with this stupid JMicron controller.

If I just got a SATA dvd rom drive instead would it resolve this issue?

Jeff

Yup, cuz you would eliminate the JMicron controller from the picture.

Even an IDE to SATA connector would help.

I'll order the adapter. I'm tired of dealing with this slow copying :(

jeff

Actually just uninstalling the jmicron raid software from add/remove programs just fixed it for me :)

Jeff

good to hear it :)
always there's some bloatware, messing things up..

btw most ide-sata adapters dont work with roms...

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Originally Posted by playrh8r

Actually just uninstalling the jmicron raid software from add/remove programs just fixed it for me :)

Jeff

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So you uninstalled the SOFTWARE but left the drivers... right?

I have very similar computer than you and have no problem

be sure your drive are in DMA and using a 80 cable IDE.

have had exactly the same prob with my p5w dh also tryed pio/dma change etc. did not do the tric for so i got fed up and rma'ed the dvd burner lol
lets see...

How is exactly are you copying to the DVD Burner? Using nero or through windows? Details?

I'm pretty sure uninstalling the Jmicron Raid software uninstalled my drivers. But i'm not sure thats a bad thing...

The Samsung DVD burner that was previously seen as a SCSI device now shows up correctly and using DMA. When I install/rip/copy stuff off of cds I can actually use my computer now and the mouse doesnt flip out.

Since the DVD rom is the only device on the IDE chain (hd is sata) should I be worried about not installing the drivers? Do the drivers do anything other than support the IDE controller?

Would it be better to just sell the DVD burner on ebay and go with sata?

Jeff

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Originally Posted by playrh8r

Hi all,

I just got my system up and running today:

Core 2 Duo e6600
Scythe Mine
Asus P5b
Evga 7900 GT KO
2x1GB Corsair XMS DDR2-6400
Raptor 150gb 16mb Cache
Samsung SH-S162L DVD Burner (IDE)

I'm getting very good performance out of the system (21second 1M superpi, very high fps in Battlefield 2 and Ut2k4).

There is one problem I am experiencing that is driving my crazy. When ever I install or copy something from the DVD drive my system stops to a crawl. The mouse is sparatic, music skips if I am playing an mp3 off of the hard drive etc. Everything goes back to normal when the cd/dvd is finished installing or copying.

I have the DVD rom plugged in to the only IDE connection that this motherboard has. Since my raptor is using a sata connection, is there some conflict with the IDE drive?

thanks

Jeff

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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16812107112

Didn't have any problems with DVD-ROM or CD-RW but it just didn't work with my DVD-RW. I tested it on the newer Liteon-Lightscribe and NEC-3550A.

My DS3 runs in UDMA mode for the Opticals, I don't trust the settings LOL! According to the readings. The DVD-RW is in Mode 4 and the CD-RW is in mode 3. I think both should show UDMA Mode-2.

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Originally Posted by playrh8r

I'm pretty sure uninstalling the Jmicron Raid software uninstalled my drivers. But i'm not sure thats a bad thing...

The Samsung DVD burner that was previously seen as a SCSI device now shows up correctly and using DMA. When I install/rip/copy stuff off of cds I can actually use my computer now and the mouse doesnt flip out.

Since the DVD rom is the only device on the IDE chain (hd is sata) should I be worried about not installing the drivers? Do the drivers do anything other than support the IDE controller?

Would it be better to just sell the DVD burner on ebay and go with sata?

Jeff

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If the controller is setup as IDE in the bios, you don't need any drivers.

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Originally Posted by playrh8r

DVDrom firmware was updated using samsungs tool. Where do i change to PIO mode?

Jeff

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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16827106040

Use this one for the 2nd Drive (whenever it's back in stock) and a Single Cable UDMA cable and try Cable Select for the DVD-RW? I've found that 80-wire UDMA 133 cables work better than the 40-UDMA 33 that are normal for Optical drives.

I don't have the Asus board so it's just seculation on my part.:)

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Originally Posted by Vric

If the controller is setup as IDE in the bios, you don't need any drivers.

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Well of course you need drivers, all hardware requires a software driver. The standard windows IDE driver imbedded in the kernel is pretty good and needs not too be changed IMO (its not as if new IDE standards keep being released). So i never install any other IDE driver and stick with the windows default.

If you required IDE raid on your onboard raid chip, then you would need the said drivers, otherwise you would have to purchase an add in raid card, if the onboard one sucked. Windows does not even support basic raid in the kernel.

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Originally Posted by FusionZ06

How is exactly are you copying to the DVD Burner? Using nero or through windows? Details?

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I actually havent done any burning yet. Just installing something off of the drive causes the performance problem.

Jeff

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Originally Posted by RichUK

Well of course you need drivers, all hardware requires a software driver. The standard windows IDE driver imbedded in the kernel is pretty good and needs not too be changed IMO (its not as if new IDE standards keep being released). So i never install any other IDE driver and stick with the windows default.

If you required IDE raid on your onboard raid chip, then you would need the said drivers, otherwise you would have to purchase an add in raid card, if the onboard one sucked. Windows does not even support basic raid in the kernel.

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That explains why when I removed the Jmicron drivers the controller was still recognized. I might just stick with he default windows IDE drivers even though Windows Update wants me to download the Jmicron update (Which i have tried and shows the performance issue).

Jeff

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Originally Posted by playrh8r

That explains why when I removed the Jmicron drivers the controller was still recognized. I might just stick with he default windows IDE drivers even though Windows Update wants me to download the Jmicron update (Which i have tried and shows the performance issue).

Jeff

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The default XP drivers work OK for burning and reading BUT it does not support proper resume from S3 sleep as I had to find out the hard way over the last 2 weeks. You can get the latest proper JMicron drivers (dated 24 Jul, same as yours?) from Windows update as I had posted in reply to your other "Fixes" post.

ODD guys like to recommend using the default XP drivers whenever possible for best compatibility but current default drivers properly do not support the JMicron sleep modes.

HTH.

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Originally Posted by MacClipper

You can get the latest proper JMicron drivers (dated 24 Jul, same as yours?) from Windows update as I had posted in reply to your other "Fixes" post.

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The july 24th drivers from windows update still have the performance issue.

Jeff

Check the burst rate with Nero CDSpeed (freeware, just google). If it is in proper DMA mode, this is what you should get ~25MB/s,

http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/9...rstratepg8.png

Showed 28mb for me.

Jeff

Updates on this issue?

Solution: Deinstall the JMicron driver and use the standard Windows IDE-driver, while setting the JMicron to IDE in the BIOS, right?

i got 41 mb/s....

Hey all, I'm having this same problem. It's stuck in PIO mode. I never loaded any JMicron crap drivers, because my 2 SATA HDDs are on the Intel Matrix.

Any idears?

Nevermind - fixed it. :)

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Originally Posted by Brahmzy

Nevermind - fixed it. :)

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Can you post how you did it? Becuase i'm still having the dad-gum problem.



And, to anyone - does the IDE->Sata adapter work with DVD-R/W drives?

Stick with windows driver they work

I had the same issue with my P5B Dlx, E6600 and Samsung SH-W162Z DVD/RW drives.

Uninstalled the JMicron Raid Tool and the issue is gone now.

Burst rate showed 28mb/s as well.