FX-60 0536RPMW meets Kayl Black Frozen SS

My FX-60 was getting jealous that my FX-57 http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=101960 was hogging all the time with my new phase change unit, so thought i'd let them hook up :D

Kayl Black Frozen SS
1/4HP 8cc compressor 404a
Kayl rev3 evap block

Specially tuned by Kayl for not so cold temps to avoid cold bug, but to handle high heat loads :)

http://i4memory.com/phasechange/kayl...lation_000.jpg http://i4memory.com/phasechange/kayl...lation_001.jpg http://i4memory.com/phasechange/kayl...lation_003.jpg http://i4memory.com/phasechange/kayl...lation_004.jpg

http://i4memory.com/phasechange/kayl...lation_009.jpg http://i4memory.com/phasechange/kayl...lation_010.jpg http://i4memory.com/phasechange/kayl...lation_012.jpg

Full pics
http://i4memory.com/phasechange/kayl/arrived/1/html/
http://i4memory.com/phasechange/kayl/arrived/turnedon/
http://i4memory.com/phasechange/kayl.../NF4_UT_SLIDR/
http://i4memory.com/phasechange/kayl...F4_UT_SLIDR_2/

Just plucked in my retail box FX-60 CCB2E 0536RPMW with low 2 digit 00xx serial number that i bought off k00lance around 3 months ago (thanks mate) :)

First clock on cpu and running 32M @3417mhz at 1.552v hehe

@stock 2600mhz first

http://www.fileshosts.com/DFI/NF4_SL...uz_idle_tn.png

http://www.fileshosts.com/DFI/NF4_SL...load_1_tnn.jpg

haven't tested cold bug yet as at 17x200HTT = 3416Mhz for now hehe gotten find a base clock first :D

17x200HTT = 3416Mhz at 1.552v

Cpuz Validated:
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=98914

http://www.fileshosts.com/DFI/NF4_SL...uz_idle_tn.png

http://www.fileshosts.com/DFI/NF4_SL..._single_tn.png

Yeah baby dual 32M well under 24min :)

Click on image for full screen shot

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PB with 2x 256MB BFG 7800GTX Stock HSF SLI @493(541)/1377

3dmark05
= 15,821
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=2059264

http://www.fileshosts.com/DFI/NF4_SL...7_15821_tn.png

That's it for tonight gotta get some sleep as i have the cold and bad cough/runny nose :(

Once again - nice OC :woot:

as always, wicked Ocing :woot:

nice work on that fx-60

btw those gpu clocks seem kinda low

Thanks guys.. yeah 256MB BFG 7800GTX stock hsf air would be limited in clocks... but for 7800GTX is pretty good clocks for stock air :)

Seems i might be suffering the cold bug symptom of low HTT with my FX-60 even at 15x233HTT or 14x244HTT with 1.552v or even 1.632v vcore bios only shows -10C and windows shows -16C to -18C idle and -3C to +2C load. But evap temp shows -33C load temps the highest load temps i had on all cpus tested so far. But seems it's the lowest windows load temps so far too... ????

I'm running 15x233HTT with toast app in start up menu to boot up and run toast while i setup Super Pi v1.50 for a run, now running 32M single instance at 15x233HTT at 1.632v and 32M is nearly complete! so 3495Mhz at 1.632v at least is capable of 32M under load...

Probably means i have more room to overclock if 3495Mhz is benchable ? :D


Dam you cold bug! Starting with low HTT for now to see how high cpu goes

16x217HTT = 3473Mhz at 1.632v
http://www.fileshosts.com/DFI/NF4_SL..._single_tn.png

FX-60 manage to validate pretty easy @16x220HTT = 3520Mhz at 1.648v :)

http://www.fileshosts.com/DFI/NF4_SL..._validated.png

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Single 32M @16x219HTT = 3504Mhz at 1.648v
http://www.fileshosts.com/DFI/NF4_SL..._single_tn.png








Guys which bios later than 1114-3 bios has FX-60 support and the upclock 216/233/250 dividers ?

edit:

I just switched my Bios savior to original bios and flashed the bios on DFI NF4 UT SLI-R R.AB0 to 406BTA bios which has upclock 233/250 dividers to work around cold bugged HTT.

So bios savior
RD1 back up bios = flashed to 1114-3
Original bios = 406BTA :)





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http://www.techpowerup.com/articles/...s/NF4LD329.zip

Try that one...should give them all to you ;) Now I'm ready to see some REAL times :toast:

one question :

different checksums at dualcore 32m pi... is that normal ?

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Originally Posted by realsmasher

one question :

different checksums at dualcore 32m pi... is that normal ?

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A checksum is unique for each particular time that results from a finished run ;)

thanks for putting this on for me, as i now know where my chip stands, on good water, ie 22c idle temps i can get 3.15ghz bench and 3.27 suicide side, both at 1.55v and was thinking of getting phase, when ive saved up i think i will

Nice FX60 there eva2000 :)

Yust hooked up my FX60 , CCB2E , 0536WPMW.
Cooling is modded Mach2 r507 by Overklokk.
On DFI NF4 Ultra-d , with OCZ 600W and 2x1024mb Corsair XMS.

Time sucks , yust checked fore 32M stability, will work on the time later.

http://www.klokking.com/diverse/32m.JPG

A very good oc ;)
Some day I will have those temperatures in my pc: D

thanks guys... nice clock Fosco need to work on those times though :)

Question why is the cold bug only freeze in windows and not memtest ???? I can memtest my FX-60 fine at 12x250mhz 2-2-2-5 fine without freezing or errors but windows will freeze ?

Is it cause in windows idle.. the cpu temps can be alot lower than in memtest ?

seems the extent of the cold bug on FX-60 for me is

- can boot into windows upto 233HTT so far and if i keep windows under load can bench at 233HTT
- tried 244HTT and can boot as far as windows welcome screen then freezes there
- as far i have tested 220HTT is where i'm okay so with 406BTA bios i have access to 216/250 dividers at certain cpu multipliers and know at 15x cpu multiplier so far i have access to 216/233/250 uplock multipliers so can ram up my memory clocks keeping HTT low.

Testing the upclocks now in memtest @15x220HTT with 233 divider... memtest says 220mhz mem but guess it doesn't show mem's upclock ram speed until i get into windows. I estimate i'm at 256mhz 2-2-2-5 since memtest reports 2930MB/s bandwidth and for dual core cpu it reports lower bandwidth than single core san diegos and venices so probably about right.

Strange with DFI NF4 UT SLI-DR R.AB0 and 406BTA bios at cpu multiplier 14x i only get to choose 216 and 250 dividers, at 15x can choose 216, 233 and 250 ?



edit: Okay after flashing to 406BTA bios i managed to get upclock dividers in play. The difference in super pi times is very noticeable i.e.

Super Pi v1.50

FX-60

3416Mhz (17x200HTT)
DDR400 divider
200mhz 2-2-2-5 memory = 22min 36.343s

vs

3300Mhz (15x220HTT)
DDR466 upclock divider
253mhz 2-2-2-5 memory = 22min 20.703s

Okay Sandra 2007 Lite must have a bug as it must think my FX-60 @15x220HTT DDR466 upclock with mem @253mhz 2-2-2-5 is an intel DDR2 system as it's reporting crazy buffered and unbuffered bandwith over 11k and 4k respectively! LOL

Buffered
http://www.fileshosts.com/DFI/NF4_SL...8_11801_tn.png

Unbuffered
http://www.fileshosts.com/DFI/NF4_SL...61_4193_tn.png

Strange single 32M can reach 3504Mhz at 1.648v, but dual 32M i had to drop vcore down to 1.62v to do 3424Mhz so far probably dual 32M's extra under load heat ? how's dual 32M around 22min 29s sound

@16x214HTT = 3424Mhz
DDR466 upclock
2x 512MB OCZ PC3200 Gold UTT BH-5 @244mhz 2-2-2-5 at 3.48v

click image for full screenie

http://www.fileshosts.com/DFI/NF4_SL..._22m29s_tn.png

Shaved up to 16s off the dual 32M time

@16x216HTT = 3456Mhz
DDR466 upclock
2x 512MB OCZ PC3200 Gold UTT BH-5 @246mhz 2-2-2-5 at 3.48v

click image for full screenie

http://www.fileshosts.com/DFI/NF4_SL..._22m13s_tn.png

:D

Sweet clocks nice lookin unit :)

thanks i'm soooo happy :D

New personal bests for 3dmark05 and 3dmark06 with 84.56 drivers for 2x 256MB BFG 7800GTX stock hsf SLI @493(541)/1370

• FX-60 CCB2E 0536RPMW
• Kayl Black Frozen SS Phase change cooler for cpu
• DFI NF4 UT SLI-DR R.AB0 406BTA bios to allow 233 upclock mem divider
• 2x 256MB BFG 7800GTX stock hsf SLI @493(541)/1370
• 2x 512MB OCZ PC3200 Gold UTT BH-5 @243mhz 2-2-2-5
• 4x80GB Hitachi 7K80 SATAII NCQ Raid 0 (nvraid)
• Pioneer DVD-RW + FDD
• 1KW PCP&C SLI power supply

3dmark05 = 16,110
3dmark06 = 8,949

Click on images for full screenies

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another nice clocking meeting Kaylblackbblablabla

:D

what a pity the bug....but nice clock indeed for your s.s.

Yeah coldbug aside seems this cpu is a solid clocker hehe

Next up is PCmark05. Managed to pull off my personal best score although it seems like only a minor improvement with my FX-60 @3407mhz vs @3113mhz.

New Pcmark05 = 8,650
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?pcm05=388590

Old Pcmark05 = 8,383
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?pcm05=309796

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Click on image below to see larger screenie for compare between 8650 vs 8383 Pcmark05 scores

http://www.fileshosts.com/DFI/NF4_SL...vs8383_tnn.jpg

Probably get a much higher score with ATI X1900 CF setup hehe.

6 min stressprime dual instances load test
Room temp = 24.5C
Compressor temp = 45.3C
Evap idle = -41.2C
Evap load = -31.0C

MBM5 idle = -20C
MBM5 load = +6C for first 5 mins and 6th minute hit +7C

http://www.fileshosts.com/DFI/NF4_SL..._load_1_tn.jpg


Broke my Aquamark3 PB by over 4k as well

2x 256MB BFG 7800GTX stock hsf SLI @493(541)/1377

AM3 = 136,799

http://www.fileshosts.com/DFI/NF4_SL..._136799_tn.png

Nice to see that a B2 mem controller can do something. I've been told it totally sucks. I have one and i am awaiting some phase cooling. Good work.

Yeah all thanks to DFI NF4 upclock divider :D

Managed to squeeze out 102 more pts in 3dmark05

3dmark05 = 16,212 http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=2065110

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AM3 jumped from 136,799 to 138,278 :)

http://www.fileshosts.com/DFI/NF4_SL..._138278_tn.png

Bit higher AM3 = 138,794

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Very nice mate

Thanks aiming for 140k in AM3 :D

I'm not familiar with upclocking honestly. I noticed it was in my bios but never thought of using it. So.. basically what it does is bump up your ram while you keep the FSB clock at something stable? Is it possible that i could do this with water cooling and achieve a faster system at a lower/ more stable FSB?

nah on air/water you should be fine 1:1 or down clock dividers... but yes upclock allows higher oc on ram than fsb

probably if you had a cpu multiplier locked cpu it would be more useful on air/water... but with unlocked multiplier on FX-60 only time to really use upclock is when you are on sub zero cpu cooling and have a cold bug limiting HTT clocks

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Originally Posted by eva2000

Thanks aiming for 140k in AM3 :D

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Are you in the forum wars mate?

nah as i understand it you need to be locked into specific hardware as per the rules.... i'm changing hardware constantly LOL

thanks...


Now to a comfortable dual stress prime larger FFTs run @3315mhz at 1.552v :)

Evap temp = -30.8C under load
MBM5 load temp = +3C to +6C

http://www.fileshosts.com/DFI/NF4_SL..._load_1_tn.png

Good overclock results !!

oh darn it.... seems my system with FX-60 just boots up into windows then shuts down :(

if i try to power it up again, it immediately shuts down ?

i removed the evap and insulation foam to dry things out, put a hair dryer on low heat to the cpu socket to ensure it's not condensation...

left it for a few hours, then installed the insulation foam again and remounted evap....

go into windows at 200x16 at 1.552v and tried stressprime dual prime test it went for around 5mins and then rebooted, and then shutdown itself again ????

the idle and load temps are like normal idle -18C to -20C and load +0C to +1C to +2C....

soooo what can be wrong ? still condensation in cpu socket ? with all the insulation i did of the board, could it still not be enough ?

any ideas guys ?


edit: seems problem was a pool of condensation/water on back of motherboard http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...2&postcount=54 !



so the unthinkable has happened... eva2000 tries out stock hsf air cooling for the very first time ever for a socket 939 cpu http://i4memory.com/reviewimages/cpu...stockhsf/html/ !

In order to confirm if my FX-60 is fine after the condensation issue on phase change, I have resorted to using the stock FX-60 heatpipe heatsink on air! This is my very first time using air cooling of any kind on socket 939 cpu LOL

http://i4memory.com/reviewimages/cpu...b_fx60_001.jpg http://i4memory.com/reviewimages/cpu...b_fx60_003.jpg http://i4memory.com/reviewimages/cpu...b_fx60_004.jpg http://i4memory.com/reviewimages/cpu...b_fx60_009.jpg

http://i4memory.com/reviewimages/cpu...b_fx60_012.jpg http://i4memory.com/reviewimages/cpu...b_fx60_013.jpg http://i4memory.com/reviewimages/cpu...b_fx60_014.jpg http://i4memory.com/reviewimages/cpu...b_fx60_015.jpg

So far running fine on air, so doesn't seem like my FX-60 has any problems! phew!!!!

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thanks...


Now to a comfortable dual stress prime larger FFTs run @3315mhz at 1.552v :)

Evap temp = -30.8C under load
MBM5 load temp = +3C to +6C

http://www.fileshosts.com/DFI/NF4_SL..._load_1_tn.png

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Lovely :p:

Very nice insulation job, I love how clean it looks :up:
Also, nice job on the SP testing, its nice to finally see somebody do some long term stressing around here, it seems everything is sprint race.
Keep up the good work and hopefully nothing is wrong with the mobo.

thanks for the comments.. yeah i asked kayl to make sure he built my phase change unit for good 24/7 stress tests since i do test memory from time to time :D

My new Gecube X1900XTX stock hsf @ 720/864 with 1.550/2.195v/2.023/1.564 - backing off on the mem a notch just for safe measure. 3Dmark05 ran perfectly fine at this speed.

3dmark05 = 14,028 with ATI Tool, Rivatuner RC16 both running in background logging temps.

http://www.fileshosts.com/DFI/NF4_SL...4_14028_tn.png

Pretty happy that I managed to get the vid memory clock up from what seemed like a 814mhz wall in ATI Tool 0.25 beta 14 to the 864-868mhz speeds now on stock hsf air. GPU clocks do seem low at 720mhz but guess nothing that better cooling on GPU wouldn't help fix :)

Well i ordered off Kayl an extra 9m roll of aerotape/sticky back insulation tape and 2x sets of evap mounting kits (4x bolts, washers, 4x wingnuts, 1x backing plate per set) so i can insulate other boards and just swap the boards around to play with my black beauty :)

Next board getting the insulation treatment will be my DFI CFX3200-DR http://i4memory.com/cfx3200dr/ for Crossfire :D

Still on DFI NF4 UT SLI-DR for now

3dmark06 = 7,762
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=359864

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