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08-08-2009, 01:01 PM
OC Nub

Quote:

Originally Posted by WaterFlex

Very nice chips, guys :up:

Thank you.

Testing HyperPi with tighter timings.
http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/202...orsettings.png
08-08-2009, 01:30 PM
sean222

Quote:

Originally Posted by andressergio

thank you mate ! will prepare a template and post

cheers :up:

Thanks andressergio, looking forward to it :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by OC Nub

Thank you.

Testing HyperPi with tighter timings.

So OC Nub, this screenshot you posted, those voltage settings are what you used for 4.5GHz right? (and probably the same settings andressergio is using...) If so, I tried those... :(

No matter what combination of random settings I try...load temps stay under 75, ram is 1:1, small FFT 4th core ALWAYS FAILS INSTANTLY. I'm starting to think THIS chip of mine is just limited to 4.25 :(

I think my ram is good, ...ram or ram timings can't make small FFT fail instantly can it?

Thanks for the help guys :D
08-08-2009, 02:22 PM
Linuxfan

seam22: on H20 you should be able to get an Q9650 to 4.5ghz easily...
Try running the CPU Vcore at 1.5v and the MCH at 1.46v, it should run just fine, leave the rest on auto. Thats quite a lot of voltage, but to see if you chip can "do it" you could try that. :)
08-08-2009, 05:30 PM
andressergio

template

Sean this template is what Tom and are are using for 4500/1200 stable keep in mind that mems are the PC29600 PI and this is using tight timmmings, you can change just PL8 and tRFC 50 and leave the rest AUTO if you want and use standard not turbo.

Hope you make it mate :up:

Code:

******Motherboard Intelligent Tweaker (M.I.T.)****** Robust Graphics Booster.........................[ Turbo ] CPU Clock Ratio.................................[ 9 ] Fine CPU Clock Ratio............................[ + 0.0 ] CPU Frequency 4.5GHz............................[ 500 x 9.0] ******Clock Chip Control****** CPU Host Clock Control..........................[ Enabled ] CPU Host Frequency (Mhz)........................[ 500 ] PCI Express Frequency (Mhz).....................[ 100 ] C.I.A 2.........................................[ Disabled ] ******Advanced Clock Control****** CPU Clock Drive.................................[ 900mv ] PCI Express Clock Drive.........................[ 900mv ] CPU Clock Skew..................................[ 0ps ] MCH Clock Skew..................................[ 50ps ] ******DRAM Performance Control****** Performance Enhance.............................[ Turbo ] Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P)..................[ Profile1 ] (G) MCH Frequency Latch.........................[ 333 ] System Memory Multipler.........................[ 2.40B ] Memory Frequency 1066...........................[ 1200 ] DRAM Timing Selectable..........................[ Manual ] CAS Latency Time................................[ 5 ] tRCD............................................[ 5 ] tRP.............................................[ 5 ] tRAS............................................[ 15 ] ******Advanced Timing Control****** tRRD[4].........................................[ 3 ] tWTR[4].........................................[ 3 ] tWR[13].........................................[ 4 ] tRFC[68] .......................................[ 50 ] tRTP[4].........................................[ 3 ] Command Rate (cmd)[0]...........................[ Auto ] ******Channel A Timing Settings****** Static tRead Value [ 9 ] ................[ 8 ] tRD Phase0 Adjustment [ 0 ] ................[ Auto ] tRD Phase1 Adjustment [ 0 ] ................[ Auto ] tRD Phase2 Adjustment [ 0 ] ................[ Auto ] tRD Phase3 Adjustment [ 0 ] ................[ Auto ] tRD 2rd (Differnt Rank) [ 8 ] ................[ 8 ] tWR 2wr (Differnt Rank) [ 8 ] ................[ 7 ] tWR 2rd (Differnt Rank) [ 7 ] ................[ 8 ] tRD 2wr (Same/Difft Rank) [ 9 ] ................[ 8 ] Dimm 1 Clock Skew Control.......................[ Auto ] Dimm 2 Clock Skew Control.......................[ Auto ] DDR Write Training..............................[ Auto ] ******Channel A Driving Settings****** Drive Strength Profile..........................[ Auto ] Data Driving Pull Up Level......................[ Auto ] cmd Driving Pull Up Level.......................[ Auto ] ctrl Driving Pull Up Level......................[ Auto ] clk Driving Pull Up Level.......................[ Auto ] Data Driving Pull Down Level....................[ Auto ] cmd Driving Pull Down Level.....................[ Auto ] ctrl Driving Pull Down Level....................[ Auto ] clk Driving Pull Down Level.....................[ Auto ] ******Channel B Timing Settings****** Static tRead Value [ 9 ] ................[ 8 ] tRD Phase0 Adjustment [ 0 ] ................[ Auto ] tRD Phase1 Adjustment [ 0 ] ................[ Auto ] tRD Phase2 Adjustment [ 0 ] ................[ Auto ] tRD Phase3 Adjustment [ 0 ] ................[ Auto ] tRD 2rd (Differnt Rank) [ 8 ] ................[ 8 ] tWR 2wr (Differnt Rank) [ 8 ] ................[ 7 ] tWR 2rd (Differnt Rank) [ 7 ] ................[ 8 ] tRD 2wr (Same/Difft Rank) [ 9 ] ................[ 8 ] Dimm 1 Clock Skew Control.......................[ Auto ] Dimm 2 Clock Skew Control.......................[ Auto ] DDR Write Training..............................[ Auto ] ******Channel B Driving Settings****** Drive Strength Profile..........................[ Auto ] Data Driving Pull Up Level......................[ Auto ] cmd Driving Pull Up Level.......................[ Auto ] ctrl Driving Pull Up Level......................[ Auto ] clk Driving Pull Up Level.......................[ Auto ] Data Driving Pull Down Level....................[ Auto ] cmd Driving Pull Down Level.....................[ Auto ] ctrl Driving Pull Down Level....................[ Auto ] clk Driving Pull Down Level.....................[ Auto ] ******Motherboard Voltage Control****** Load-Line Calibration...........................[ Enabled ] CPU Vcore [ 1.1875 ]...................[ 1.4250 ] CPU Termination [ 1.20 ]...................[ 1.360 ] CPU PLL [ 1.50 ]...................[ 1.570 ] CPU Reference [ 0.760 ]...................[ 0.886 ] MCH Core [ 1.100 ]...................[ 1.460 ] MCH Reference [ 0.760 ]...................[ 0.901 ] MCH/DRAM Refernce [ 0.900 ]...................[ Auto ] ICH I/O [ 1.500 ]...................[ 1.500 ] ICH Core [ 1.100 ]...................[ 1.200 ] DRAM Voltage [ 1.800 ]...................[ 2.200 ] DRAM Termination [ 0.900 ]...................[ Auto ] Channel A Ref [ 0.900 ]...................[ Auto ] Channel B Ref [ 0.900 ]...................[ Auto ] ******Advanced BIOS Features****** Limit CPUID Max to 3............................[ Disabled ] No-Execute memory Protect.......................[ Disabled ] CPU Enhance Halt (CIE)..........................[ Disabled ] C2/C2E State Support............................[ Disabled ] C4/C4E State Support............................[ Disabled ] CPU Thermal Monitor.............................[ Disabled ] CPU EIST Function...............................[ Disabled ] Virtualization Technology.......................[ Disabled ]

Best of the lucks :up:
Sergio
08-08-2009, 08:25 PM
OC Nub

Quote:

Originally Posted by sean222

Thanks andressergio, looking forward to it :)

So OC Nub, this screenshot you posted, those voltage settings are what you used for 4.5GHz right? (and probably the same settings andressergio is using...) If so, I tried those... :(

No matter what combination of random settings I try...load temps stay under 75, ram is 1:1, small FFT 4th core ALWAYS FAILS INSTANTLY. I'm starting to think THIS chip of mine is just limited to 4.25 :(

I think my ram is good, ...ram or ram timings can't make small FFT fail instantly can it?

Thanks for the help guys :D

If your ram wont do 1200mhz, try Sergio's template using MCH Frequency Latch~Auto, 200D, trfc 55 other sub timings auto, pl9 turbo or standard. If it fails you may need more vcore or an adjustment in the ref's up or down a notch.
08-08-2009, 09:31 PM
thebluemeanie1

Try using both clock drives at 1000mV and setting both clock skews to 0. My board won't do much if the clock skews are set above 0.
08-09-2009, 05:47 AM
nkresho

Thanks for the template. That was extremely helpful.

Although my chip (1.25 VID) doesn't want to do 4500 with the template, I did squeeze a 4300 out last night 10 hours small fft. I dropped mch down to 1.4 and ran vcore at 1.425. Now I'm trying to lower vcore to get it under 1.392 loaded.

I will butt heads with this chip until it does 4500, i'm determined.
08-09-2009, 10:17 AM
sean222

Quote:

Originally Posted by Linuxfan

seam22: on H20 you should be able to get an Q9650 to 4.5ghz easily...
Try running the CPU Vcore at 1.5v and the MCH at 1.46v, it should run just fine, leave the rest on auto. Thats quite a lot of voltage, but to see if you chip can "do it" you could try that. :)

I tried pumping up the voltages, no luck, 4th core still failed small FFT instantly.

Quote:

Originally Posted by andressergio

Sean this template is what Tom and are are using for 4500/1200 stable keep in mind that mems are the PC29600 PI and this is using tight timmmings, you can change just PL8 and tRFC 50 and leave the rest AUTO if you want and use standard not turbo.

Hope you make it mate :up:

Best of the lucks :up:
Sergio

Thanks alot Sergio, I'm sure others will appreciate your template too :)
Unfortunately, no luck for me. The 4th core kept failing :( Ram is good. Tried more vcore and adjusted the ref values 1 or 2 notches, still no luck.

Quote:

Originally Posted by OC Nub

If your ram wont do 1200mhz, try Sergio's template using MCH Frequency Latch~Auto, 200D, trfc 55 other sub timings auto, pl9 turbo or standard. If it fails you may need more vcore or an adjustment in the ref's up or down a notch.

Thanks OC Nub...I did run my mem at slower speed and loose timings when I tried out Sergio's template above.

Quote:

Originally Posted by thebluemeanie1

Try using both clock drives at 1000mV and setting both clock skews to 0. My board won't do much if the clock skews are set above 0.

Thanks. Tried this, no luck though, didn't make a difference in terms of stability.

Quote:

Originally Posted by nkresho

Thanks for the template. That was extremely helpful.

Although my chip (1.25 VID) doesn't want to do 4500 with the template, I did squeeze a 4300 out last night 10 hours small fft. I dropped mch down to 1.4 and ran vcore at 1.425. Now I'm trying to lower vcore to get it under 1.392 loaded.

I will butt heads with this chip until it does 4500, i'm determined.

Conclusion:

Well, thanks everyone, I really appreciate all your suggestions...but I've been overclocking long enough to know that my chip is just limited to around 4.25GHz :( I've spent like 22hrs straight trying endless combinations of ref values and overvolting everything...no dice though :(

Also, the fact that my GTX 295 block is in the same loop as my Q9650 doesn't help my temps at all...as you all know, the GTX 295 generates a crapload of heat :mad:

My plan is to stick with 4.25GHz and tweak my ram as much as possible.

Really wish I had another chip to test.

One day when I get time I'll take the 295GTX out of the loop to see what happens. For now though, I'll just settle on 4.25, I've wasted way too much time for no real world gains...which is ok...cause this is one of my hobbies :)
08-09-2009, 12:03 PM
andressergio

Quote:

Originally Posted by sean222

I tried pumping up the voltages, no luck, 4th core still failed small FFT instantly.

Thanks alot Sergio, I'm sure others will appreciate your template too :)
Unfortunately, no luck for me. The 4th core kept failing :( Ram is good. Tried more vcore and adjusted the ref values 1 or 2 notches, still no luck.

You wellcome mate :up:

I would first then try a lowe OC as not all chips do 4500... did you try any other like 4320 for ex ?

remember temps are a fact also

Try to start from a stable setting and keep up

Cheers :up:
Sergio
08-09-2009, 12:39 PM
OC Nub

I know this is not the right thread but it is my favorite thread and has helped me a great deal in learning to oc 45nm quad cores. Put the 9550 back in for testing. 1hr 30min and going, 4350mhz.

http://img44.imageshack.us/img44/874...end4350mhz.png
08-09-2009, 01:12 PM
andressergio

Quote:

Originally Posted by OC Nub

I know this is not the right thread but it is my favorite thread and has helped me a great deal in learning to oc 45nm quad cores. Put the 9550 back in for testing. 1hr 30min and going, 4350mhz.

http://img44.imageshack.us/img44/874...end4350mhz.png

damn Tom that 9550 is GREAT :up: congrats :clap:
08-09-2009, 01:23 PM
andressergio

Playing some more with the Q9650 i managed to boot and shoot a SPI32M:

4505 (530x8,5) mems auto
W7x64 7600RTM

http://img30.imageshack.us/img30/774...530x8532xs.jpg

Cheers all :up:
Sergio
08-09-2009, 01:26 PM
OC Nub

Thanks Sergio

Great job man. :up: Now I have my work cut out for me.
08-09-2009, 02:02 PM
andressergio

This time with the Gskills at 1272 CL5 rest auto

4505 (530x8,5) / mems 1272mhz
W7x64 7600RTM

http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/731...530x85run2.jpg

Cheers :up:
Sergio
08-09-2009, 02:45 PM
sean222

Damn, I hate you two guys now :eek: Haha just kidding, great work on that 9550. You guys have great RAM, I can't afford to spend that much money though :( I will keep trying on my 9650 later on.
08-09-2009, 02:52 PM
OC Nub

Good work with the GSkills Sergio. Maybe I will pass on this one lol. Cannot boot at 530 with your settings, very hard to do. Congrats.

Thank you sean.
08-10-2009, 04:03 AM
andressergio

Quote:

Originally Posted by OC Nub

Good work with the GSkills Sergio. Maybe I will pass on this one lol. Cannot boot at 530 with your settings, very hard to do. Congrats.

You will do it mate :up:
08-10-2009, 04:32 AM
Blackwhite

Hi guys.
I just bought QX9650 ES - what GTL settings are u using? Is 0.67 will be fine.I have DFI P45 UT.
08-10-2009, 11:12 AM
hallryu

Hi,

I'm running my Q9650 on the following settings:

Vcore 1.387v BIOS (1.376v CPU-z) on my X48-DS4 board. The VID on my CPU is 1.275v, so quite high imo.

Any tips on getting to around 4.2Ghz whilst keeping the Vcore under 1.4v? Do I need to worry about VCore over 1.4v?

I'm not sure why but folks appear to be hitting 4.2 to 4.5Ghz with ease at lower voltages than me. What ia holding me back do you think?

http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/7579/20090810202615.jpg
08-10-2009, 11:38 AM
OC Nub

hallryu: x48 is not the best for quads, you will have better luck with a good p45 board.
08-10-2009, 11:39 AM
hallryu

Quote:

Originally Posted by OC Nub

hallryu: x48 is not the best for quads, you will have better luck with a good p45 board.

I thought that could be the problem! Thanks

Whats you thoughts on going over 1.4v is it a bad idea!??!
08-10-2009, 08:16 PM
TooFastForYa

It's alright to go over 1.4 but temps are an issue. You don't want temps above 65C reported by RealTemp. Anything above that and you won't be able to maintain stability.
08-11-2009, 12:57 PM
hallryu

Quote:

Originally Posted by TooFastForYa

It's alright to go over 1.4 but temps are an issue. You don't want temps above 65C reported by RealTemp. Anything above that and you won't be able to maintain stability.

At the moment Prime doesn't take my CPU above around 55C. Obviously IBT and LInX both take my CPU in to the mid 60's. A higher VCore would obviously cause that to go up!

Perhaps I should be happy with 4Ghz:clap:
08-11-2009, 01:27 PM
nkresho

Ok, got the new sticks in. OCZ blade 9200, low voltages. This is my preliminary run for stability. Still going for 4500 eventually.

http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/2...table7hbla.jpg
08-11-2009, 03:28 PM
lordmagnum

what do you advise : enabling or disabling loadline calibration on a Asus board ?
I've read that enabling llc wasn't good for the cpu.

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