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03-06-2005, 02:14 PM
b|lly

Hi all again :)

I'm back with my new mobo IC7-MAX3 and my new shiny prescott :)

And there's definetly something wrong with this ram and Asus P4P800, cauze i barely hit 212 on that mobo and on this...

ATM I'm at 243 mhz 2-2-2-5 everything else set to AUTO. No mods done, and ddr voltage set to 3.2 (I'll get ddr booster in a couple of days...). Since i'm pretty new to this mobo I have no idea how to set those "auto" values... pls gimme some advices.

And what do you think, with ddr booster, will I be able to hit 275 without the vtt mod, cauze that's about where my pressy maxs out?
03-06-2005, 02:38 PM
cartmanea

It could be the difference between 1T and 2T command rate, if thats what Auto is doing on the new board.
03-06-2005, 02:40 PM
enzoR

auto, normal,auto or 5/4 4 is better, disabled, disabled
03-06-2005, 03:31 PM
b|lly

Was able to do 245 with this settings, 260 still far away...I think i need some ddr booster
03-06-2005, 07:03 PM
Chr0n1c

Quote:

Originally Posted by nebuchanezzar

Thats the TMII twinmos stuff your referring to right? So far the TMSP twinmos and OCZs value w/winbond are all UTTs. The TMSP are always out of stock though and only atatcom AFAIK have the OCZs

Yea sorry for not being specific. TMSP is like impossible to get :mad:
03-06-2005, 07:14 PM
TiTON

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shroomalistic

yeah sorry, that was a little off subject but just saying some retailers dont mind but newegg does. I do most of my shopping at fry's and mwave so im pretty set.

I like mwave mainl becasue they have a will call. I'm the type of guy that needs the part "YESTERDAY" :)

Its nice its only like 10 min from my house and office. I wish NewEgg had a will call.

mWave could easily compete w/ newegg if their site was designed better. I always get frustrated trying to "Window Shop" at mwave. If I have a particular item I want, then its easy to get it.

NewEgg is great for just crusing around and "looking" at stuff.

Sorry for the OT Post

SAD

Edit: Yes.. TMSP 512 are IMPOSSIBLE to get. You have to be on the Autonotify list and purcahse within the hour of the e-mail you get. If not, you end up getting one stick like me :P I went ahead and purchased teh ValueVX instead.
03-07-2005, 08:49 AM
uwackme

hmmm

Just to confirm, my 2 512M stick of SP from last weeks release came in. They are running 215Mhz 1T in the NF7-S @ 3.20Vdimm. Ill move them to this machine for 3.5V testing later today.

They are week 6 2005 UTT 44D chips.
03-07-2005, 10:06 AM
cartmanea

Same chips mine have that I got a couple weeks ago, they do 240+ at 2-2-2, 3.3v in my NF7-S. I say 240+ because dual channel is board limited to about 233 and single channel one hits 244 without many errors and the other hits 248, board gets flaky at that fsb though. Of course, its on a cheapy 300w psu for testing :)
03-07-2005, 10:08 AM
uwackme

hmm

Initial findings arent great, but arent bad either. This pr matches the 2nd best set I got out of the shipment of 4 pr's of the non-SP stuff. With a 235Mhz 1T 8,2,2,2.0 @ 3.36Vdimm result. The previous 2nd-best set did 238Mhz @ 3.4Vdimm.

Going higher on V only pisses it off, making me think maybe the stickers are an issue....preventing cooling on some of the chips. Ill burn them in a while, and then remove the stickers and try again. The SP's have MORE sticker on them than the TMII's do.

So my 1st best set....245Mhz+ @ 3.5Vdimm (hitting NForce2 memory controller wall) are a miracle set that likely do 260-270Mhz in an A64. Time will tell. Going 2T did not help the results.

Which may again point me to heat being an issue with the stickers being just enough of a heat blanket to make trouble. I have a fan blowing directly on the sticks, but if the stickers act as a blanket, this limits the fan's affectiveness.
03-07-2005, 10:12 AM
cartmanea

I don't think the stickers are a real problem, I have a fan blowing over mine and the stickers don't feel any hotter than the other chips. They definitely need a fan though, even with 3.3v they get HOT running Test 5 in Memtest86!
03-07-2005, 10:15 AM
Chr0n1c

Quote:

Originally Posted by uwackme

Just to confirm, my 2 512M stick of SP from last weeks release came in. They are running 215Mhz 1T in the NF7-S @ 3.20Vdimm. Ill move them to this machine for 3.5V testing later today.

They are week 6 2005 UTT 44D chips.

Nice, and you got these from the egg? or?
03-07-2005, 10:17 AM
cartmanea

Probably, they had some show up in stock about a week ago. I just missed out or I would have bought another pair! I got mine from Newegg about 3 weeks ago when the second batch was in.
03-07-2005, 10:28 AM
TiTON

I know this is a TwinMos thread..

While I'm waiting for my TwinMOS SP to get back in stock, and to get the RMA for my OCZ ValueVX. I think I will play with TCCD a bit.

Is there any "CHEAP" TCCD out there? I know its off topic, but want to give it a try.

Any help or suggestions would greatly be appreciated.

SAD
03-07-2005, 11:03 AM
uwackme

hmmm

Yeah, got them from NewEgg last week when they had that small release. These are good enough to match the set I gave my brother.... he also wants 4x 512M for A64 once the Superstrain chips come out.

Interesting thing, this new set of UTT doesnt like 3.5V, gets errors in test#2 and #5 with Vdimm over 3.36V.

Guess to match my best set, Ill have to pony up the $$ for OCZ4000VX.

now I have too much ram, 256M BH6 Corsair CMS3202v1.1, 2x 256M CH5 1x 512M CH5 all HyperX3500, 2x 512M BH5 HyperX3000. I need to sell some of this off.
03-07-2005, 11:28 AM
Chr0n1c

Strange that its fussy with 3.5V. I just want 1 good kit of UTT. Both sets I have had have had 1 good stick with one blah stick lol.

So far I haven't heard anything spectacular about the VX4000. But tis still a tad early yet.
03-07-2005, 02:17 PM
Jessfm

Quote:

Originally Posted by uwackme

Yeah, got them from NewEgg last week when they had that small release. These are good enough to match the set I gave my brother.... he also wants 4x 512M for A64 once the Superstrain chips come out.

Interesting thing, this new set of UTT doesnt like 3.5V, gets errors in test#2 and #5 with Vdimm over 3.36V.

Guess to match my best set, Ill have to pony up the $$ for OCZ4000VX.

now I have too much ram, 256M BH6 Corsair CMS3202v1.1, 2x 256M CH5 1x 512M CH5 all HyperX3500, 2x 512M BH5 HyperX3000. I need to sell some of this off.

Damn I have 1 stick of the Corsair too, hmm maybe i need urs to make a pair :)
03-07-2005, 02:33 PM
fareastgq

I have a couple gigs going into the for sale forum if anyone is interested since these are hard to get. they are alrdy tested, details in for sale post. The only reason I am selling them is because 253 fsb is not high enuff for me to max out my cpu, I got a nice 3000 win, but 250 hardly gets me past anything worth watercooling.
03-07-2005, 02:34 PM
fareastgq

I have a couple gigs of SP UTTgoing into the for sale forum if anyone is interested since these are hard to get. they are alrdy tested, details in for sale post. The only reason I am selling them is because 253 fsb is not high enuff for me to max out my cpu, I got a nice 3000 win, but 250 hardly gets me past anything worth watercooling so I'm going for some gskill LE now I guess.
03-07-2005, 03:59 PM
TiTON

FYI - Newegg back in stock on TwinMos SP 512MB as of 3:38PM PST.. lets see how long they last.

I got my sticks.

SAD
03-07-2005, 04:29 PM
Shroomalistic

thank you thank you thank you thank you.......

One of my non sp sticks just quit working today so im getting a refund on it, just placed my order for 2 of these now.
03-07-2005, 04:31 PM
trans am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shroomalistic

thank you thank you thank you thank you.......

One of my non sp sticks just quit working today so im getting a refund on it, just placed my order for 2 of these now.

I have the plain jane tmII gig kit and they rock! how did you kill yours? what volts? Mine work best at 3.4v
03-07-2005, 06:46 PM
sparkie34

Quote:

Originally Posted by SuAsDu

FYI - Newegg back in stock on TwinMos SP 512MB as of 3:38PM PST.. lets see how long they last.

I got my sticks.

SAD

28 in stock 10pm est.
03-07-2005, 08:02 PM
TiTON

Wow.. I guess all the mad OC'ers already got all the TMSP they wanted :) So there are still some left for the general public.

SAD

EDIT - just checked 17 sticks left.
03-07-2005, 09:16 PM
uwackme

hmmm

Make me an offer Jess.... 2 BH6 is better than one... $50?

Even with so so results these really are good bargains in the ram department, $76/512M with solid performance on NForce2 @ tight timings.
03-07-2005, 09:22 PM
tictac

still burning in at 245MHz @ 3.3V in bios

200 error after 6 hours burnin :)

will keep on kicking until it run stable ;)

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