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Originally Posted by DrJay
lol hey if your gunna do it,, do it right...
well guys, got some bad news. :( would appreciate it if u guys could help me out
I had been using the 1.36b bios and decided to give the 1.80 R3 MOD by NFM a try. I downloaded it and flashed using winflash (loaded optimized defaults before and after flash), but now windows wont load. everything stops loading after it POSTs and loads the raid array thing, and all i see is a little dash flashing on the screen. did i corrupt my bios? does my gskill tccd have anything to do with it?
any help would be greatly appreciated
Hamster, My G.Skills won't run at the timings used in the R3 MOD BIOS. I tested them with A64 tweaker before flashing.
Yours might not like them either...
Are you still able to boot off a floppy? If so try flashing to a BIOS that doesn’t have modded timings.
ah yes, I can boot off a floppy, good call D3kMatrix. :) cant believe I didnt think of that next, musta had a brain fart
I know this has prolly been asked a thousand times, but can someone PLZ give me the instructions to go about flashing from a floppy, like what I need on the floppy and what the command to flash is?
hey hamster do you have APIC enabled or disabled ?
If indows was loaded with APIC ENABLED then you MUST have it enabled now or windows wont load.
hhmm what else...
did you reset with the jumper ? if not do so and then reflash again.
personally hamster my pc4800 OCZ Plat worked better with the 1.36 rev 4 by NFM
i havent tried 1.8 R3 yet with the mushkin but i wont be able right now as the mushkin is having some issues..
but the ocz definately got a few more bumps from the 1.35 r3.
Also.. i havent seen any issues with the TCCD/5 not liking the 1.8 infact just the opposite. as long as you reset the bios with the jumper it should work.
dont forget the raid stuff isnt set up properly after you flash along with a few other items.
try booting from a floppy does it do the same thing ? what about a cd ? if it does then its doing the same crap that the 1.9 bios does to me
unplug any uneeded ide or sata drives and only use what you need just to test.
AWFL833D biosname /py/sn/wb/cc/cd/cp/f
use awfl833d for 1.8 and below use awfl852 or higher for 1.9 and above
dont forget your limited to the 8 character dos limits so rename the bios to whatever. but if it shows as 180mod~1 in dos then the bios flash wont work cuz it wont see 180modrev3.bin if you use that in the command line so name it a shart name
oh and just so you know the timings are the exact same with 1.36 and 1.8 mod
if you were using the original MSI 1.36 then yes the timings are different.
hey guys just wondering, is there any part of this mobo that would benefit from throwing some heatsinks on? I know people do this on some power regulation stuff in the past, dunno if theres any spots that would benefit? i see some little black ic's on the back of the board between the cpu socket and the rear io panel for example... I've got some stuff left over from a worthless purchase...heat spreaders for my ram. not only did the crappy retention brackets make the spreaders go on like /|\ instead of [|], but they came with these larger heat sink types as well, that are now useless to me. Just kidna bored, I don't think anything is overheating. (altho i will be water cooling soon and throwin more juice at my chip :D ) I still await a bios that may get around my chip's craptastic memory controller someday... :slapass:
yeah those are the only ones alone with any other chip opn the board.
there really isnt any benefit that i know of but it definately isnt gunna hurt to put them on... nope wont hurt at all but you wont see any improvements that i have ever seen from adding them.
mail them to me i could use them :)
Hi all, there are my settings actually after few weeks of testing :(
Venice 3000+
Corsair PC3200 XLpT (chips TCCDs) 2x512M
Bios 1.A3MOD4 modded
http://sonic9.free.fr/sonic/PhotosPC/stable320.jpg
Now I will continue with my new GeForce6800GT ... but I have "freezes" bug ...
@Lestat: With your 6800Ultra have you got lags ? especially with SPEAR demo, no ? thanks
Sonic the Freeze bug is the card RMA it. It's a known issue with 6800 cards mostly the GT but some Ultra's
Contact the card maker and RMA it.
If your overclocking the card lower the Overclock and it will go away.
also look into better cooling like a waterblock or the NVsilencer 5 Rev 2. that will take about 15c off the temps. Water will usually do more.
no lag issues for me but this entire system performas like crap in video benchmarks.
i had a 3200+ CG clawhammer and a 6800GT and i used to get 6200-6300 on 3Dmark 05 with this venice at 2.7 and either pc4800 or mushkin i only get a MAX of 5700.
Also why are you running your ram so low ? that ram shoudl be able to do way way better which will increase your all around performance. Also raise the cpu voltage a touch and go higher on the cpu. that chip will handle more even on air.
Yes, I think my ram can do best but if I use 1:1 I can up to 250fsb (not rock stable with 1,65v too), with the 166divider not stable too, I will retest my overclock but atm I must fix my freezes before the guarantee done ... (excuse for my language ...)
What settings on your ram Lestat ?
Sonic i dont recommend you use that bios that bios is really only for X2 owners.
with your system i recommend using either 1.8 original or Rev 3 modded by NFM
or
1.36 Rev 4 by NFM
the 1.9 which is what the 1.ax bios is... is known for horrible overclocking and massive failure at 250mhz...
use the 1.8Rev3 or 1.36 rev 4 and i bet you get a stable and more reliable and higher overclock..
no guarentees but handle your cpu voltages ram voltages and HTT and HTT multiplier properly and you'll be good to go.
cpu multi - 10x
HTT Multi - 3x or 2.5x
HTT - 250mhz
Ram Freq- 200mhz aka 1:1
Cas timings with your ram - 2.5-3-3-10 not 9 or 8 or 7 or 5 10 is best for NF3 boards. although 8 and 9 arent much difference but your ram may not like it.
cpu voltage 1.45
ram voltages 2.7 or 2.8 for tCCD
try out that bios i mentioned and see what happens guy... that bios really is crap and is not helping you, its hurting you.
okay I come back to 1.8nfm ... and I havn't the 3000+ unlocked ;) ... so I will test with x9 ... thanks for tras tip.
Goodbye.
Lestat do you got a link about the 1.ax bioses and how they act since i used it for a bit and didnt notice anything u described, only that htt droped from 37x ish to 36x ish
all you gotta do is look thru this thread, pcperspective and the msi forums to see all the poo about the 1.9bbios tne 1.a3 is better but still shows alot of the same issues.
Sonic.
i dont know what you mean by you dont have the 3000 unlocked ?
maybe you just mant you havent tried other mutlipliers ? lol ?
you said you would try 9x have you been running on 8x or something ? again that will alow for higher HTT and memory but you loose cpu speed which with AMD 64's is key ,, the faster the cpu the faster the memory thruput. i mean thats the same for almost all cpu's but the amd64's really kick in with high cpu speeds giving high memory speeds.
atleast thats been my testing results.
re, I have the 1.3b6 Rev4's NFM bios and I have tested this :Quote:
Originally Posted by Lestat
260mhz sync 2.5/3/3/10 cpu@1,45v ram@2,7v (htt3x) [multi x9]
In OCCT about 2 min to make error. the cpu is around 2,34ghz so it's too bad ... with that :
8x320 async133 (ram215) 2/3/2/10 same voltage htt3x.
In OCCT fully passe 30min test. the cpu is around 2,56ghz and the high fsb and frequency make more perfs, it's my result ...
The new divider (216,233 ...) is intersting to testing the ram I think but doesn't work here, anyone can use those dividers ?
I have a friend with DFI nf4 / OCZ VX ... I will do some test with his platform this weekend ...
if your ram is TCCD and your at 260mhz on an NF3 board you need to be @ 2.8v
2.7v isnt gunna work. now someone else may say differnetly but the nforce 3 boards,, its been my experience are really goofy with TCCD ram. but that may just be me and my crappy board.
if your running 1.45v @ 2.58ghz that is really good keep going.
my 3200+ if i go 2.6 i have to go to more volts so..
those 3000 chips are magic they overclock really good.
I think too my tccd don't like my msi ... another friend has DFI/nf4 and runs 300mhz with same tccd (not mine but other same model) @2,7v but just in memtest (no errors) but impossible to boot in windows xp :(
I want to test some others ram but it's hard to find someone has this ...
(question: I'm french and it's 01h24min AM here, what about you Lestat ?)
its 1825 here 6:25pm i am Central Time -6 GMT
i have had 3 sets of TCCD on this mobo and they all hate this mobo. but i can take the same ram,, atleast my old gskill LA and put it on a DFI board and it loves it.
I know that this question may be a little OT but I just got a new Logitech 5:1 speaker system from DELL and my digital sound outputs are not working! Any help appreciated and if you want a killer speaker system for your PC check out slickdeals.net on how to get the Logitech system from DELL. You can also get a color printer for 4$
ahhh the Z5500's i have the Z5300's and those jack a$$e$ at logitech screwed us all out og digital.
you also need to install the proper realtek drivers, enable them in the bios and then you must choose the digital output in the realtek driver control panel, the little icon down by your clock for the realtek controls, not the little speaker.
the best way i have found to do the realtek stuff with digital is to put it on autosense. you will see it.
and then be sure to put it at 5.1 speakres or some actually call them 6 channel instead of 5.1 the .1 is the sub so they just call it channel 6.
anyways thats how you make it work as long as your speakers actually have a digital input. otherwise you have to use all the color coded ones. which will match the colors of the cables on your speaker plugs.
btw your not gunna get much better quality with the crappy realtek sound chip when you use digital. with analog you still get all the dolby digital sound and all that, its just converted to analog, you might get a slight better bass and treble but thats all. and then you have to have a nice set of speakers to notice it.
Thanks for the quick reply. The system acutally has both optical and coaxial digital inputs but I guess that I have never downloaded the proper drivers unless they came with the MOBO. Anyway I will see what I can do.
Thanks Again.
yeah they would have come with the mobo but they are REALLLLYYYYYY old
go to realtek's site or jsut as easy go to MSI's site and grab the latest from there.
the realtek site is gunna have the newest so maybe check their first just make sure you ge tthe right realtek chipset first.
Thanks,
How do you enable the drivers in the bios? I downloaded the most recent drivers and wnnt into the bios and could not find a place to enable?