ASUS Maximus II Formula - new P45 king?

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12-11-2008, 04:33 PM
unex|st

I've just flashed the new 1802 bios and I can confirm it is booting much faster now.
Memory performance is exactly the same as 1307 and wrong multiplier issue at power on is still present (resetting the system will apply the correct multiplier).
All SATA ports seem to be working correctly (using 1x raid0 array and 2x raid1 arrays)

1307
http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/6268/1307du1.th.png

1802
http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/7541/1802kj2.th.png

BIOS settings

Code:

Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual OC From CPU Level Up : Auto Ratio CMOS Setting : 8.0 FSB Frequency : 400 MHz CPU Clock Skew : Auto North Bridge Clock Skew : Auto FSB Strap to North Bridge : 400 MHz DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1066 MHz Dram Clock Skew CH1 A1 : Delay 100pS DRAM Clock Skew CH1 A2 : Auto Dram Clock Skew CH1 B1 : Advance 100pS Dram Clock Skew CH1 B2 : Auto DRAM Timing Control: Manual CAS# Latency : 5 RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5 RAS# Precharge : 5 RAS# ActivateTime : 15 RAS# to RAS# Delay : 3 Row Refresh Cycle Time : 60 Write Recovery Time : 6 Read to Precharge Time : 3 Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 7 Write to Read Delay (S) : 3 Write to Read Delay (D) : 5 Read to Read Delay (S) : 4 Read to Read Delay (D) : 5 Write to Write Delay (S) : 5 Write to Write Delay (D) : 6 Write to PRE Delay : 14 Read to PRE Delay : 5 PRE to PRE Delay : 1 ALL PRE to ACT Delay : 6 ALL PRE to REF Delay : 6 DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled Dram Read Training : Auto MEM OC Charger : Auto Ai Clock Twister : Lighter Transaction Booster : Manual Common Performance Level [7] Pull-In of CHA PH1 Disabled Pull-In of CHA PH2 Disabled Pull-In of CHA PH3 Disabled Pull-In of CHB PH1 Disabled Pull-In of CHB PH2 Disabled Pull-In of CHB PH3 Disabled PCIE Frequency : 100 CPU Voltage : 1.375 CPU PLL Voltage : 1.50 FSBT : 1.10 DRAM Voltage : 1.97 North Bridge Voltage : 1.139 South Bridge Voltage 1.5 : 1.50 South Bridge Voltage 1.1 : 1.10 CPU GTL Reference 0 : Auto CPU GTL Reference 1 : Auto CPU GTL Reference 2 : Auto CPU GTL Reference 3 : Auto North Bridge GTL Reference : Auto DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : Auto DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : Auto North Bridge DDR Reference : Auto Load Line Calibration : Enabled CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled
12-11-2008, 06:08 PM
andressergio

Guys i flashed to 1802 bios and i want to go back to 1307 but none of my pen drives can bee ssen now, i formated them again on both vista and xp and bios 1802 says "unable to load ...."

how to go back ?

Cheers
Sergio
12-11-2008, 06:27 PM
SiGfever

Yep, three hundred dollar board and a five dollar bios. :shakes:

New motto..."Sucky Bios * Heart Cringing"
12-11-2008, 06:31 PM
kwalker

Quote:

Originally Posted by andressergio

Guys i flashed to 1802 bios and i want to go back to 1307 but none of my pen drives can bee ssen now, i formated them again on both vista and xp and bios 1802 says "unable to load ...."

how to go back ?

Cheers
Sergio

did you try to burn the rom file to a cd?
Maybe that will work
12-11-2008, 06:40 PM
kwalker

Quote:

Originally Posted by SiGfever

Yep, three hundred dollar board and a five dollar bios. :shakes:

New motto..."Sucky Bios * Heart Cringing"

I don't recall Asus having so many bad Bois's until lately and now they cant get any of them right on this board :D
12-11-2008, 06:45 PM
SiGfever

Quote:

Originally Posted by kwalker

I don't recall Asus having so many bad Bois's until lately and now they cant get any of them right on this board :D

I have been a long time loyal Asus person. But this board has left me feeling less than impressed. I know next time if a new platform is just around the corner I will not invest in a high end board when a $130.00 board can outperform this one.
12-11-2008, 06:45 PM
radaja

doesnt asus have some kind of forum? if so maybe we could all go there and post post post about getting the bios for the maximusII right
12-11-2008, 06:54 PM
SiGfever

Quote:

Originally Posted by radaja

doesnt asus have some kind of forum? if so maybe we could all go there and post post post about getting the bios for the maximusII right

http://support.asus.com/default.aspx?SLanguage=en-us
12-11-2008, 07:17 PM
kwalker

Quote:

Originally Posted by SiGfever

I have been a long time loyal Asus person. But this board has left me feeling less than impressed. I know next time if a new platform is just around the corner I will not invest in a high end board when a $130.00 board can outperform this one.

The only reason I purchased this board is because my Q9550 wouldn't budge on the Maximus Formula but flys on the Maximus II.
I miss cross firing on dual 16X lanes.
Your right about the lack of effort or misguided effort in the support department.
I don't think I'm ready for the 135.00 board though. :D
Maybe I'm just stubborn but this board has enough to hold its own with the quads if Asus would just wake up and smell the coffee.:mad:
12-11-2008, 07:35 PM
radaja

well i started a new thread over in the asus forums in the maximus II section titled bios support,feel free to add some your own thoughts in there.
12-11-2008, 07:57 PM
screwtech02

Not like ANYONE from Asus actually pays attention to their own forums Radaja, but there is always hope......:up:
12-11-2008, 08:10 PM
radaja

i know. but like you said we can hope.
12-11-2008, 08:46 PM
philbrown23

what is the best bios to use on this board?? 1606 will not finish post when in raid mode it hangs on sata detection
12-11-2008, 09:23 PM
SkOrPn

I'm thinking the best bios hasn't been created yet... lol
12-11-2008, 09:36 PM
philbrown23

ok lemme re-word that, what bios works with raid enabled? 1606 does not.
12-11-2008, 09:42 PM
SkOrPn

Quote:

Originally Posted by philbrown23

ok lemme re-word that, what bios works with raid enabled? 1606 does not.

I'm on 1307 with raid 0 on the ich. I think most here will agree 1307 is best so far... But only flash after you have set everything to default in the bios.
12-11-2008, 09:49 PM
CryptiK

Quote:

Originally Posted by andressergio

Guys i flashed to 1802 bios and i want to go back to 1307 but none of my pen drives can bee ssen now, i formated them again on both vista and xp and bios 1802 says "unable to load ...."

how to go back ?

Cheers
Sergio

Try a CD and try your C:/ drive. If that doesn't work I'll talk to you on msn mate.

Quote:

Originally Posted by philbrown23

what is the best bios to use on this board?? 1606 will not finish post when in raid mode it hangs on sata detection

1307 is the best BIOS so far based on everyone's reported experiences. I'm not going to upgrade from 1307 unless they bring out a BIOS that addresses the current issues at hand.
12-12-2008, 02:06 AM
Kayso

I have flashed to the last one 1802. Until now, no problems. Everything run perfect at 7*500 with my CPU and my system. Most interesting is, that i didn't have any problems with my mobo until now. Very nice speeds, very nice overclock, very stable :shrug:

Here is an old shot with BIOS 0701:
http://kayso.hit.bg/7_500.jpg

I will make some new tonight and post them.

I managed to do almost 1200 Mhz with my DDR2 set and it was stable over 3 hours of testing, but I don't like such high Mhz for 24/7.

I want to ask, about this new sound driver ? Somebody know anything about it ? The Creative one is not on the asus site any more.
12-12-2008, 03:49 AM
Grnfinger

Can someone actually post a reason for issue with bios 1802.
I have ran it for 2 days with NO issues, prime, IBT and gaming are all smooth.
Just watch'd a blue ray movie last night , play'd flawless

I find it a decent bios, so far the best since 1307

Quote:

Originally Posted by andressergio

Guys i flashed to 1802 bios and i want to go back to 1307 but none of my pen drives can bee ssen now, i formated them again on both vista and xp and bios 1802 says "unable to load ...."

how to go back ?

Cheers
Sergio

Make your usb drive bootable and load AFUDOS use the /pbnc /n switches and it will flash
12-12-2008, 05:51 AM
N3it1

Processor: E8400 E0
Ai Overclock Tuner: Manual
OC From CPU Level Up: Auto
Ratio CMOS Setting: 9
FSB Frequency: 500
CPU Clock Skew: Delay 300ps (This Gave me more stability at the same vCore - - Thanks CryptiK)
NB Clock Skew: Delay 400ps (This Gave me more stability at the same vNB - Thanks CryptiK)
FSB Strap to North Bridge: 333
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1000MHz

DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A1: Auto
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A2: Auto
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B1: Auto
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B2: Auto
DRAM Timing Control: Auto (For Now)

DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
DRAM Read Training: Disabled
MEM. OC Charger: Enabled
Ai Clock Twister: Auto (For now)
Ai Transaction Booster: Manual

Common Performance Level: 10
Pull-in of CHA PH1: Disabled
Pull-in of CHA PH2: Disabled
Pull-in of CHA PH3: Disabled
Pull-in of CHB PH1: Disabled
Pull-in of CHB PH2: Disabled
Pull-in of CHB PH3: Disabled

PCIE Frequency: 100

CPU Voltage: 1.341 (Droops to 1.336 under Load)
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.54
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.16625
DRAM Voltage: 1.9
North Bridge Voltage: 1.35
South Bridge 1.5 Voltage: 1.54
South Bridge 1.1 Voltage: 1.12 (Those because i have Raid)

CPU GTL Reference (0): Auto
CPU GTL Reference (1):-30mv (This means 0.64x anything else at tha 0.61x - 0.67x Range cause prime to stop)
CPU GTL Reference (2): Auto
CPU GTL Reference (3):-30mv
NB GTL Reference: Auto
DDR2 ChA Reference Voltage: Auto
DDR2 ChB Reference Voltage: Auto
North Bridge DDR Reference: Auto

CPU Configuration:

Ratio CMOS Setting: 9
C1E Support: Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit: Disabled
Intel Virtualization Tech: Disabled
CPU TM Function: Disabled
Execute Disable Bit: Disabled

Load-Line Calibration: Enabled
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled

I tried those settings with multiplier 7.5 with FSB 440 for my Q9300,ended up getting bad vista installment + no hope to login in windows.Is my Q9300 Really this bad that it wont go anywhere without settings being auto or over 3.3?
I tried those settings with bumbed values,no go. This really is disturbing me.
I got 280GTX,4x1gb DDR2 800Mhz corsair,750W P&C Silencer Quad,Q9300,M2F mobo with bios 1802 and Vista ultimate.
Any help would be appreciated.
12-12-2008, 06:14 AM
philbrown23

k will try 1306
12-12-2008, 06:32 AM
CryptiK

Quote:

Originally Posted by N3it1

Processor: E8400 E0

Code:

Ai Overclock Tuner: Manual OC From CPU Level Up: Auto Ratio CMOS Setting: 9 FSB Frequency: 500 CPU Clock Skew: Delay 300ps (This Gave me more stability at the same vCore - - Thanks CryptiK) NB Clock Skew: Delay 400ps (This Gave me more stability at the same vNB - Thanks CryptiK) FSB Strap to North Bridge: 333 DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1000MHz DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A1: Auto DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A2: Auto DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B1: Auto DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B2: Auto DRAM Timing Control: Auto (For Now) DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled DRAM Read Training: Disabled MEM. OC Charger: Enabled Ai Clock Twister: Auto (For now) Ai Transaction Booster: Manual Common Performance Level: 10 Pull-in of CHA PH1: Disabled Pull-in of CHA PH2: Disabled Pull-in of CHA PH3: Disabled Pull-in of CHB PH1: Disabled Pull-in of CHB PH2: Disabled Pull-in of CHB PH3: Disabled PCIE Frequency: 100 CPU Voltage: 1.341 (Droops to 1.336 under Load) CPU PLL Voltage: 1.54 FSB Termination Voltage: 1.16625 DRAM Voltage: 1.9 North Bridge Voltage: 1.35 South Bridge 1.5 Voltage: 1.54 South Bridge 1.1 Voltage: 1.12 (Those because i have Raid) CPU GTL Reference (0): Auto CPU GTL Reference (1):-30mv (This means 0.64x anything else at tha 0.61x - 0.67x Range cause prime to stop) CPU GTL Reference (2): Auto CPU GTL Reference (3):-30mv NB GTL Reference: Auto DDR2 ChA Reference Voltage: Auto DDR2 ChB Reference Voltage: Auto North Bridge DDR Reference: Auto CPU Configuration: Ratio CMOS Setting: 9 C1E Support: Disabled Max CPUID Value Limit: Disabled Intel Virtualization Tech: Disabled CPU TM Function: Disabled Execute Disable Bit: Disabled Load-Line Calibration: Enabled CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled

I tried those settings with multiplier 7.5 with FSB 440 for my Q9300,ended up getting bad vista installment + no hope to login in windows.Is my Q9300 Really this bad that it wont go anywhere without settings being auto or over 3.3?
I tried those settings with bumbed values,no go. This really is disturbing me.
I got 280GTX,4x1gb DDR2 800Mhz corsair,750W P&C Silencer Quad,Q9300,M2F mobo with bios 1802 and Vista ultimate.
Any help would be appreciated.

Maybe try and increase your vdimm to 2.0 - 2.1v (whats your ram rated at?) that may help. Corsair ram is usually binned pretty tightly so they may not overclock very far, but I don't have any experience with them so I can't say for sure.
12-12-2008, 06:50 AM
N3it1

Here is screenshot of my settings now. Everything else is auto from bios except FSB and multiplier which are 440x7.5

http://www.aijaa.com/v.php?i=3228270.jpg

http://www.aijaa.com/img/b/00920/3228270.jpg
12-12-2008, 07:06 AM
CryptiK

N3it1 - try this:

Ai Overclock Tuner: Manual
OC From CPU Level Up: Auto
Ratio CMOS Setting: 7.5x
FSB Frequency: 440
CPU Clock Skew: Auto
NB Clock Skew: Auto
FSB Strap to North Bridge: 333
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-880MHz

DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A1: Auto
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A2: Auto
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B1: Auto
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B2: Auto

DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 5
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 55
Write Recovery Time : 8
Read to Precharge Time : 5

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 8
Write to Read Delay (S) : 3
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
Read to Read Delay (S) : 4
Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
Write to Write Delay (S) : 5
Write to Write Delay (D) : 6

Write to PRE Delay : 16
Read to PRE Delay : 6
PRE to PRE Delay : 1
ALL PRE to ACT Delay : 6
ALL PRE to REF Delay : 6

DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
Dram Read Training : Disabled
MEM OC Charger : Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : Moderate
Transaction Booster : Manual

Common Performance Level [10]

Pull-in of CHA PH1: Disabled
Pull-in of CHA PH2: Disabled
Pull-in of CHA PH3: Disabled
Pull-in of CHB PH1: Disabled
Pull-in of CHB PH2: Disabled
Pull-in of CHB PH3: Disabled

PCIE Frequency: 100

CPU Voltage: 1.34375
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.54
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.25
DRAM Voltage: 2.0 - 2.1v (what is you ram rated at?)
North Bridge Voltage: 1.35
South Bridge 1.5 Voltage: 1.50
South Bridge 1.1 Voltage: 1.10

CPU GTL Reference (0): +50mv
CPU GTL Reference (1): +10mv
CPU GTL Reference (2): +50mv
CPU GTL Reference (3): +10mv

NB GTL Reference: Auto
DDR2 ChA Reference Voltage: Auto
DDR2 ChB Reference Voltage: Auto
North Bridge DDR Reference: Auto

CPU Configuration:

Ratio CMOS Setting: 7.5
C1E Support: Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit: Disabled
Intel Virtualization Tech: Disabled
CPU TM Function: Disabled
Execute Disable Bit: Disabled

Load-Line Calibration: Enabled
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled
12-12-2008, 07:14 AM
N3it1

Ok thanks im gonna try that since it threw bluescreen at my even with auto settings :/

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