Xtreme Twinmos Memory!

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03-02-2005, 09:49 PM
cartmanea

I finally took time away from schoolwork and did the vDimm=vIO mod on my NF7-S v2. WOW!!! So far I'm only doing testing on one stick of Speed Premium, but it is doing awesome! Before the mod, selecting 2.9vDimm in bios (board max) and getting an actual 2.96v, the ram wouldn't do 2-2-2 at even 190 fsb and topped out at looser timings around 218 fsb.

After doing the mod, with vDimm=vIO=3.36v, I'm running Memtest with 2-2-2 timings at 242 fsb! This stuff REALLY likes voltage! This is also using a crappy 300w PSU, but voltages look good on it. I got errors at 245 fsb, but I think they were heat related because even though I had a fan blowing on them, the chips were pretty hot.

I did the mod differently than the way TicTac has posted. Instead of soldering to the Dimm vdd pins (tiny pins), I soldered to the vDimm capacitors (3 of the 4). So I have 3 wires running from the 3.3v terminals at the ATX plug, one to each capacitor. I measured vDimm and 3.3v under load and there is no voltage drop whatsoever so it turned out really well.

I'll post pics of the mod when I take the board back out in the next few days. Also, I'll do more testing and post back when I know how the other stick and dual channel works :)

Oh, and here's the info on my ram:
Twinmos Speed Premium pc3200, 2x512
Both sticks: 05064, 44D
03-03-2005, 06:14 AM
NiSMo

ok i read the first couple of pages but i cant find anythin bout which actuall chips/sticks are teh best to get? i take it there is no stock left at newegg either :(..

wat would b a better option? this stuff or ocz vx value??
03-03-2005, 09:33 AM
TiTON

Nismo,

Well.. the TwinMos SP are great, if you can get them. Supply has been a big issue.

I have a pair of Value VX coming in on Friday.

The SP are great, I figure the Value VX will be teh same or even better.

The hard part about the Value VX, is that there isn't much feedback. So just stay tuned to the other thread, as more users get Value VX to test.

SAD
03-04-2005, 05:11 AM
geof

Quote:

Originally Posted by setyotomo

ok... memtest 7# for now ... i'll do #5 later on..

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...id=25757&stc=1

hello setyotomo ,

i have a DFi Ultra-D and 2*512mo Twinmos PS too .I tried the same timings ...
May you give full settings in ram options please and vddr ? ( i have no errors in test #5 but in test #7 :( )
Did you try your bandwidth with sandra 2005 because i've got only 83/84% efficience

Thanks a lot
03-04-2005, 05:51 AM
situman

heheh test 7 is a biatch isnt it? I think thats the reason why some people pass test 5 but still have stability issues in windows.
03-04-2005, 01:28 PM
P_1

Quote:

Originally Posted by P_1

any info on how the CADT's overclock? my friend ended up with those instead of aa4t utt...

can any1 answer that question please ?
03-04-2005, 01:47 PM
Revv23

Why not try them? they are not winbond, id expect maybe 25mhz out of em... but i have no experience at all its just a random guess.
03-04-2005, 04:06 PM
P_1

they arent mine, and i just want to know so that he can rma them asap.(he doesnt know how to test and oc...)
03-04-2005, 04:58 PM
cartmanea

He took the chance and bought them, you shouldn't make Newegg or wherever you bought them go through the hassle of taking them back just because they aren't what you hoped for.
03-04-2005, 05:09 PM
Chr0n1c

Quote:

Originally Posted by cartmanea

He took the chance and bought them, you shouldn't make Newegg or wherever you bought them go through the hassle of taking them back just because they aren't what you hoped for.

Why does this argument come up so often on these forums? I find it rather retarded. Why not return them? If your not happy then why keep them. The logic in that is just pointless. It was more of a hassle for him to buy it and not get what he wanted than the other way around. :rolleyes:
03-04-2005, 05:11 PM
cartmanea

I could care less about hassle for him, its the retailer you are costing time and money. Their return policies are for defective merchandise, not stuff you gambled on and didn't get what you wanted.

I bought 2x512 of Twinmos Speed Premium from Newegg, and I was lucky to get the good stuff. However, I wouldn't have returned them if I didn't, I would have just sold them at a loss. Thats the chance you take when you gamble on value memory.
03-04-2005, 05:15 PM
Shroomalistic

mwave has a 7day customer satifaction policy. If you dont like it you can get your maney back. No questions asked. And there retrun policy is awesome. My third powercolor x800 pro died and I already sent the card back to powercolor. I sent an email to mwave anyways and they gave me a rma number even though the reciept was from 8/2004. I wish I didnt send the card to powercolor now and went threw mwave.
03-04-2005, 05:22 PM
cartmanea

Hey Shroom, mwave does have a good policy, but these were probably purchased from Newegg and their policy is for defective items. I just hate seeing people taking advantage of Newegg like this when they are such a good company.
03-04-2005, 05:30 PM
Shroomalistic

yeah sorry, that was a little off subject but just saying some retailers dont mind but newegg does. I do most of my shopping at fry's and mwave so im pretty set.
03-04-2005, 05:52 PM
Chr0n1c

Well, I think your just a lil too upset over it IMO. It's really not costing them as much as you think it is.
03-04-2005, 10:28 PM
=[PULSAR]=

Are these the ones everyone is talking about?

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduc...218-062&depa=0
03-05-2005, 03:17 AM
nebuchanezzar

Quote:

Originally Posted by nebuchanezzar

First off lately a lot of those have not been UTT and many have...kinda random
these have a better chance.
2. Probably but not guaranteed but they will need 3.0vdimm+
3. Yes and sure
4. look at #1
OCZ w/UTTs
these are OCZs sticks with the same winbond ICs. I just ordered a pair myself and there is a thread hear called value VX. You may want to wait for some more feedbacks on them but at least they're in stock now and guaranteed UTT winbond chips

Thats from a different thread with the exact same question. :D That's the first time I've ever quoted myself :D
Just ignore 2. 3. and 4 and the TMSP has all been UTTs so far as far as I know.
03-05-2005, 05:26 AM
P_1

Quote:

Originally Posted by cartmanea

He took the chance and bought them, you shouldn't make Newegg or wherever you bought them go through the hassle of taking them back just because they aren't what you hoped for.

Thats why they should seperate the different models of a certain product they are keeping in stock and sell them at a little higher cost(meaning that they should do what they did with the buffalo memory and selling sticks with different chips as different products, i remember they sold infineon buffalo, winbond buffalo, micron buffalo, etc) This way everyone would be happy and they would earn a little more.
03-05-2005, 06:08 AM
nebuchanezzar

Very true, we also know some kingston value ram has utt chips but
1. Theres no coding/serial to differentiate and
2.What "oven" they were cooked in makes a diff and so far only TwinMos and OCZ have been relatively consistent.
03-05-2005, 07:12 AM
Chr0n1c

Quote:

Originally Posted by nebuchanezzar

Thats from a different thread with the exact same question. :D That's the first time I've ever quoted myself :D
Just ignore 2. 3. and 4 and the TMSP has all been UTTs so far as far as I know.

Not true, xxORBxx and stevehat have purchased the same stuff and have not gotten UTT.
03-05-2005, 02:18 PM
setyotomo

Quote:

Originally Posted by geof

hello setyotomo ,

i have a DFi Ultra-D and 2*512mo Twinmos PS too .I tried the same timings ...
May you give full settings in ram options please and vddr ? ( i have no errors in test #5 but in test #7 :( )
Did you try your bandwidth with sandra 2005 because i've got only 83/84% efficience

Thanks a lot

it's 3.3v .. the timing i think like this : (bold means i forgot the order :p: )

1:1 E-2-2-5-2-7-15-A-2-1-1-3072-1-I-1-2-7-5-256-D-8-7-D

i kinda forget though... :confused: but because the bw is over 3000 mb/s (at memtest) so i ithink i used that when doing test #7

in this setting i only got about 2715 mb/s if im not mistaken :
1:1 - E-2-2-5-2-7-15-A-A-A-A-3072-A-A-A-2-7-5-256-D-8-7-D
03-05-2005, 07:10 PM
JAWS

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chr0n1c

Not true, xxORBxx and stevehat have purchased the same stuff and have not gotten UTT.

yep I bought some and it was total crap. 1 stick barely ran 210. went back to my bh5 at 275 1:1 :)
03-05-2005, 07:23 PM
cartmanea

So if you had BH-5 at 275 1:1, why did you even think about getting other ram? :) IF my Mushkin BH-5 hadn't gone bad and been replaced with TCCD I wouldn't have given this UTT stuff a second look.
03-05-2005, 07:46 PM
JAWS

Quote:

Originally Posted by cartmanea

So if you had BH-5 at 275 1:1, why did you even think about getting other ram? :) IF my Mushkin BH-5 hadn't gone bad and been replaced with TCCD I wouldn't have given this UTT stuff a second look.

well bh5 is 2x256 and this was before hell's sense mod to power supply. before that I could only get 255.
03-06-2005, 07:49 AM
nebuchanezzar

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chr0n1c

Not true, xxORBxx and stevehat have purchased the same stuff and have not gotten UTT.

Thats the TMII twinmos stuff your referring to right? So far the TMSP twinmos and OCZs value w/winbond are all UTTs. The TMSP are always out of stock though and only atatcom AFAIK have the OCZs

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