Gigabyte EX58-UD5/Extreme Discussion Thread

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03-05-2009, 11:20 AM
dennismagic

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Originally Posted by hlonipha

Well spoke too soon, my bios (F6C) went nuts last night. I.E

It started to give me checksum errors and on a black screen weird characters and a non stopping dash accross the screen. I flashed back to F5G the systems went to black screen and gave me the message of rebuilding bios once that finished it rebooted itself and all was fine. uppsssss I thought I lost the board.

back to F5G with 200x21 HT on 1.39v load

i also tried the F6D as well and could not enter the windows and then reboot.....see a sentence........recovering the bios etc....

now i back to F5G:up:

suggest to skip the F6 series and wait for F7!
03-05-2009, 11:39 AM
Fafeifa

Finally hit 4.0Ghz!!
http://i436.photobucket.com/albums/q...ench168/40.jpg
03-05-2009, 12:31 PM
yomny

fafeifa i really think you should use another Oc under 4ghz so you could lower the vcore and the temps along with it as they're pretty high!
03-05-2009, 12:36 PM
Fafeifa

Quote:

Originally Posted by yomny

fafeifa i really think you should use another Oc under 4ghz so you could lower the vcore and the temps along with it as they're pretty high!

I know i was just trying to see if i could hit the 4.0ghz barrier, but now trying to stablize to bring down the temps of this beast, i only need 1.34v for 3.8Ghz so i dont know what settings to change. I'm using the latest F6C bios for the UD5
My cooler is Noctua NH-U12p. I may have to lap the cpu and hsf
03-05-2009, 01:08 PM
Markmb

New Gigabyte user

Hello all of you..

Tomorrow im going to set the gigabyte x58 extreme up. So was wondering what bios version is the best atm? My specs are:

12 GB Corsair Dominator 8-8-8-24 1T
1 4870x2
1 samsung 750 spinpoint
965 core i 7 extreme
noctua cpu cooler
cosmos S case
TT 1.5 kW power
03-05-2009, 01:16 PM
Fafeifa

Quote:

Originally Posted by Markmb

Hello all of you..

Tomorrow im going to set the gigabyte x58 extreme up. So was wondering what bios version is the best atm? My specs are:

12 GB Corsair Dominator 8-8-8-24 1T
1 4870x2
1 samsung 750 spinpoint
965 core i 7 extreme
noctua cpu cooler
cosmos S case
TT 1.5 kW power

Wow nice specs there, But i don't think you'll achieve high clocks with all 6 sticks of ram in use. The fan of the cooler will block the closest ram bay so running 6 may be tricky. The i7s oc is limited by the cooling, a simple 920 can reach 4.2ghz with some tweaking but since you have a 965 it'll be a good idea to get a WC kit. The F6 bios has been working pretty good for me. Good luck.
03-05-2009, 01:45 PM
Markmb

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fafeifa

Wow nice specs there, But i don't think you'll achieve high clocks with all 6 sticks of ram in use. The fan of the cooler will block the closest ram bay so running 6 may be tricky. The i7s oc is limited by the cooling, a simple 920 can reach 4.2ghz with some tweaking but since you have a 965 it'll be a good idea to get a WC kit. The F6 bios has been working pretty good for me. Good luck.

Yeah, WC is the next step but always been afraid to start on something like that;) in my evga x58 i got all six sticks in, so with some good handywork it should be possible on this board :up:
03-05-2009, 04:08 PM
SteveRo

Markmb

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fafeifa

Wow nice specs there, But i don't think you'll achieve high clocks with all 6 sticks of ram in use. The fan of the cooler will block the closest ram bay so running 6 may be tricky. The i7s oc is limited by the cooling, a simple 920 can reach 4.2ghz with some tweaking but since you have a 965 it'll be a good idea to get a WC kit. The F6 bios has been working pretty good for me. Good luck.

With a 965 - you should be able to use 6x2gb much easier than those with 920 and 940 because you can keep the mem speeds and qpi speeds down.
I have used 30x134 for 4.02 with 6x1gb no problem.
Also 35x123 for 4.3 ht on with the same 6 sticks of mem - and they are not even matching memory - 3 are 1066 the other 3 are 2000.
The 965 gives you a lot more wiggle room for ocing the proc.
Now ocing the memory is a whole different ball game - there you may have some challenges
03-05-2009, 04:34 PM
The_Phoenix

Quote:

Originally Posted by dennismagic

i also tried the F6D as well and could not enter the windows and then reboot.....see a sentence........recovering the bios etc....

now i back to F5G:up:

suggest to skip the F6 series and wait for F7!

agreed! F5g FTW!
03-05-2009, 05:31 PM
Hornet331

Quote:

Originally Posted by SteveRo

Markmb

With a 965 - you should be able to use 6x2gb much easier than those with 920 and 940 because you can keep the mem speeds and qpi speeds down.
I have used 30x134 for 4.02 with 6x1gb no problem.
Also 35x123 for 4.3 ht on with the same 6 sticks of mem - and they are not even matching memory - 3 are 1066 the other 3 are 2000.
The 965 gives you a lot more wiggle room for ocing the proc.
Now ocing the memory is a whole different ball game - there you may have some challenges

Mem speeds can even be down with a 920 (my 12gb run only with 1200 cl7 cause with tripple channle they have more then enough bandwidth ;) ).

The only advantage of a extreme this time is the qpi limit, thought on air (and even on water) theres next to no difference from a 920 to a 965.
03-05-2009, 05:39 PM
road-runner

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Originally Posted by The_Phoenix

agreed! F5g FTW!

Seems to be the best I have tried so far... :up:
03-05-2009, 11:07 PM
EveryFlowerFlow

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Originally Posted by Villainstone

Hey fellas does any one suppose that this could be a useful thread for me? I am using a UD4P with little OCing luck. I do not want to waste any ones time here and that is the point of asking. Is there enough similarities between the two boards to make use of this thread?

I have the same board. Are you using a 920 as well? I'm currently at 4.0ghz stable. 20x200

V.High 30's/Low40's idle. mid 70's full load. I want to push for more a but I'm aiming to lower volts and temps 1st.

edit:Using the f6 bios btw.
03-05-2009, 11:58 PM
Lsdmeasap

Beta BIOS for GA-EX58-Extreme F6e

Beta BIOS for GA-EX58-Extreme F6e

This should fix the S3 sleep issues, hopefully.

Please Do keep in mind there is currently possible issues with Qflash starting with F6d as reported by several users, and this is being tested. So please only flash this bios using @BIOS or a DOS Based flash such as FlashSPI as the issue may or may not persist thru to this BIOS.

GA-EX58-Extreme F6e
http://www.mediafire.com/?ed2mdnb2zbg
03-06-2009, 01:16 AM
Villainstone

Quote:

Originally Posted by EveryFlowerFlow

I have the same board. Are you using a 920 as well? I'm currently at 4.0ghz stable. 20x200

V.High 30's/Low40's idle. mid 70's full load. I want to push for more a but I'm aiming to lower volts and temps 1st.

edit:Using the f6 bios btw.

So what are your settings that keeps you stable at that speed. Really 200Mhz is my goal. Unfortunately I cannot get anything over 180Mhz bclk and I need 1.4 volts minimum to keep it stable. Currently I am deciding to get a new MB and sell this one. I am only 5 days out of my Newegg warranty. The board works fine just doesn't OC as well as I like.

So far I have tried 185-210Mhz and failed. I tried different multipliers, and have tried every QPI/VTT voltage from 1.28-1.42. My CPU is stable at 3.8, and I have tried it without Turbo and HT. I tried LLC on and off, vcore up to 1.4v, PLL up to 1.84v, I make sure that the uncore is 2x+1 higher than my RAM. I really have tried everything short of adjusting REF voltage, and clock scews.
03-06-2009, 02:39 AM
stasio

GA-EX58-UD4P BIOS F7d on TT Forum
03-06-2009, 04:07 AM
Hornet331

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lsdmeasap

Beta BIOS for GA-EX58-Extreme F6e

This should fix the S3 sleep issues, hopefully.

Please Do keep in mind there is currently possible issues with Qflash starting with F6d as reported by several users, and this is being tested. So please only flash this bios using @BIOS or a DOS Based flash such as FlashSPI as the issue may or may not persist thru to this BIOS.

GA-EX58-Extreme F6e
http://www.mediafire.com/?ed2mdnb2zbg

S3 is still buged. :(
03-06-2009, 04:37 AM
Godmyster

are these boards better then the Asus P6T?
03-06-2009, 04:56 AM
stasio

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hornet331

S3 is still buged. :(

The S3 (E1) Bug occurs in the OC as in a setting as follows ...
BLCK160 / SMM10.0 / 8-8-8-20-1T (9-9-9-24-1T OK)
BLCK180 / SMM8.0 / 8-8-8-20-1T (9-9-9-24-1T OK)

Q-Flash should be updated to ver.2.09
03-06-2009, 06:21 AM
Siobhan

Quote:

Originally Posted by Villainstone

So what are your settings that keeps you stable at that speed. Really 200Mhz is my goal. Unfortunately I cannot get anything over 180Mhz bclk and I need 1.4 volts minimum to keep it stable. Currently I am deciding to get a new MB and sell this one. I am only 5 days out of my Newegg warranty. The board works fine just doesn't OC as well as I like.

So far I have tried 185-210Mhz and failed. I tried different multipliers, and have tried every QPI/VTT voltage from 1.28-1.42. My CPU is stable at 3.8, and I have tried it without Turbo and HT. I tried LLC on and off, vcore up to 1.4v, PLL up to 1.84v, I make sure that the uncore is 2x+1 higher than my RAM. I really have tried everything short of adjusting REF voltage, and clock scews.

These are the settings that've worked best for me. I find that it's my processor that isn't so great (all are different, as you often hear) as opposed to the board.

i7 920 on an EX58-Extreme, F6E BIOS:

BCLK: 194
Intel Turbo: Enabled (to get 21x)
HT: Disabled (too hot with it Enabled)
Bidirectional PROCHOT: Disabled
(to keep from dropping the 21x multi down -- runs 24/7)
Core Mult @ 21x = 4074
QPI Link @ 36x/2 = 3492
Uncore Mult @ 16x = 3104 (my IMC won't do 3298 and I find 2xRAM is stable anyway)
RAM Mult @ 8x = 1552
Load Line Cal: Enabled
CPU PLL: 1.84
CPU Vcore: 1.45 (seriously -- can't get to 4.0/4.1+ w/o it)
QPI/Vtt: 1.395
QPI PLL: 1.14
DRAM: 1.64
IOH Core: 1.30
ICH I/O: 1.58
ICH Core: 1.16

I have a Noctua NH-12 with push/pull fans installed. Max temps hit 83°C in RealTemp 3.00, but the average max temp is really more around 77°. Max temps of 85° are my self-imposed limit, and that's really the only reason I think I can't get more than 4.1GHz out of this chip -- gets too hot with all the extra required voltage. I'd have to go to water to go any higher.

RAM is Corsair CM3X2G1600C9. I have it at set to the default XMP settings (turn XMP profile on and set everything manually to the left side settings then turn it back off) and the bank-to-bank refreshes are set fixed at #1. 58, #2. 60, #3. 62. I couldn't boot without setting those manually -- it would always stick at the code for "Turn on L2 cache" (b9 or 69)
03-06-2009, 07:05 AM
VRSpy

Quote:

Originally Posted by stasio

The S3 (E1) Bug occurs in the OC as in a setting as follows ...
BLCK160 / SMM10.0 / 8-8-8-20-1T (9-9-9-24-1T OK)
BLCK180 / SMM8.0 / 8-8-8-20-1T (9-9-9-24-1T OK)

Q-Flash should be updated to ver.2.09

On bios F6d, Unable to do s3 even at default cpu speed with ram at 2000Mhz 9-9-9-27-1T at 1.66Vdimm, using OS xp32bit.
Press the button casing to power up and it just stay put, cpu fan not turning but system fan is turning, NO BOOT !
Need to shut down totally.
03-06-2009, 07:12 AM
Splave

Quote:

Originally Posted by Godmyster

are these boards better then the Asus P6T?

yes
03-06-2009, 08:26 AM
stasio

Quote:

Originally Posted by VRSpy

On bios F6d, Unable to do s3 even at default cpu speed with ram at 2000Mhz 9-9-9-27-1T at 1.66Vdimm, using OS xp32bit.
Press the button casing to power up and it just stay put, cpu fan not turning but system fan is turning, NO BOOT !
Need to shut down totally.

Info is regarding BIOS F6e
03-06-2009, 09:29 AM
Godmyster

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bobbylite

yes

Why are they better then the Asus P6T? i just want to know what board to buy out of these 2..

Thanks
03-06-2009, 10:43 AM
Splave

Grab the UD5, the silent pipe is just really bling. Might drop temps 2 or 3c and so I hear most of the wb leak lol
03-06-2009, 10:57 AM
Envy

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bobbylite

Grab the UD5, the silent pipe is just really bling. Might drop temps 2 or 3c and so I hear most of the wb leak lol

is this true? mine is under water i hope it wont go :explode: where you heard extreme wb leak?

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