On Vantage it is. also, on meth it is. :PQuote:
Originally Posted by saaya
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On Vantage it is. also, on meth it is. :PQuote:
Originally Posted by saaya
I honestly do not believe that 1536SP is right, as we know it's going to be larger in size than Cypress and we also know that Cypress has 1600SP. Unless, they quadrupled everything else... and that does not make any sense to me either...
6950 have 1536SP, not 6970! Stop read FUD:banana::banana::banana::banana:.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zoran
I really hope the price/performance ratio is great. Otherwise we will be stuck with overpriced GTX570 and GTX580 (and 69x0 cards, obviously) for a while.Quote:
Originally Posted by generics_user
Hopefully you're correct. 1536 does look very disappointing, indeed. Still less than Radeon 5870 has. Hard to believe that...Quote:
Originally Posted by Dezmen
...where did I mention that I believe it???? :cool:
if the 6970 is 1536, how many would the 6950 have? and how much performance per SP is needed for it to have a 15-20% gain over 6870 with about 20% lower clocks?
Maybe that switch unlocks it's turbo mode, allowing it to clock itself as it wishes on a higher TDP?
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As Nvidia has launched its latest GeForce GTX 570 GPU as well as reduced the price of its 400 series GPUs, AMD is set to launch its new Radeon HD 6970 and 6950 GPUs in the third week of December, according to sources from graphics card makers.
However, initial shipment volumes are expected to be limited, the sources noted.
The sources cited its testing figures and pointed out that the GeForce GTX 580 has better performance than AMD's new Radeon HD 6970, therefore AMD is expected to price the GPU US$50-70 less than the GTX 580 to cover the disadvantage.
If I do some simple calculations:Quote:
Originally Posted by Manicdan
Assuming 1 NI SP = 0.95x 1 EG SP,
Barts Pro: 775 MHz x 192 SP (960 SPU) = 148800
Barts XT: 900 MHz x 224 SP (1120 SPU) = 201600
Cayman XT: 880 MHz x .95 x 384 SP (1536 SPU) [rumored] = 321024 = 1.59x Barts XT
Taking around 20% lower clocks from 6870/6970,
Cayman Pro: 725 MHz x .95 x 352 SP (1408 SPU) [speculation] = 242440 = 1.20x Barts XT
(that also gives Cayman XT = 1.32x Cayman Pro)
lol i should have known you would do the calculations.Quote:
Originally Posted by iMacmatician
the issue is that perf per $ for barts pro and xt show the xt as being much better, but simply does not seem to be that way in real tests (too much memory limitation keeping them quite close)
the barts xt is 35% higher in SP perf, but the price is only 26% higher, so its really tough to speculate on real life just with SP perf.
http://h-5.abload.de/img/switch_pdfom24.png
Chuck Norris mode switch?
Number of SPs is completely irrelevant because of the changes in the architecture. It's like trying to compare CPUs by their clockspeeds alone without being clear about the IPC. Sure, it can give some indication but it's far off at best.
MSI HD6970 listed.
Part number R6970-2PM2D2GD5
MSI HD 6950 listed
Part Number R6950-2PM2D2G5
http://www.neox.fr/Composant-Informa...D5/A28105.html
€496 for a HD6970.... ouch!
hmmQuote:
Originally Posted by kadozer
http://forum.beyond3d.com/showpost.p...postcount=5720Quote:
The -20 to 20 slider is a %, you can adjust the power of your card in the overdrive tab by 20% up or down.
the 250W is the maximum board consumption, but the non-OC power consumption is 190/200W.
Cayman can actually clock almost as flexible as any modern CPU, so it can run at 650 MHz or 800 MHz during benchmarking if you enable Powertune
I sure hope 6970 doesn't have disabled units like GTX480. Now that would be a major fail in my book.Quote:
Originally Posted by cold2010
In case you guys missed it I just found the MSI version of the HD6970 listed on a french website for just under 500 Euros...
The HD6950 is also there for 396 Euros.....
I am NOT liking those prices.... :shakes:
You probably want to avoid websites displaying made up prices then.Quote:
Originally Posted by Biker
Looks like a Sinking Ship with no one on the Rescue!
How much is that French website selling the GTX 580 for?Quote:
Originally Posted by Biker
Yeah think it's at this point definitely a case of there was something wrong, but from what OCUK is saying (thank god someone is saying something!!!) it's not all bad!! Also bit late for people to get for Christmas.
In case you missed it, and you did miss it, it was posted and discussed 2 pages ago. :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by Biker
I do not think these prices are final. Plus, it's France. I am sure the prices will be much lower on Dec, 15th, once decent availability is there.Quote:
Originally Posted by onethreehill
You are right .. i did miss that :DQuote:
Originally Posted by zalbard
I could not find a 580 on the same site for comparison so I am hoping for BS :up:
Better than the trollboat. Hows that working out for yah? :DQuote:
Originally Posted by TheBreezyBB