I disagree.
Give them a week to explain themselves, and if they are not up to doing that, then ban them or remove all of their rights.
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This is just sad.
But things like this we could see them coming miles away.
Well, I agree they should be given a chance to explain their actions and apologize, but the fact seems to be that they were cheating. Anyone deserved that.
I'm not saying lifetime ban, that does seem unjust as they still contribute to the community and seem to be well respected in many circles.
Still, the fact of the matter is, they cheated and they should be punished for it.
Whether people choose to trust their scores (and words) in the future, and how scrutinized they will be is entirely up to the community.
BUT where did they start?
I guarantee you that there was a day when all of these people were unknown and just experimenting in their homes on modest hardware..
No one was born with these skills,all learned and by the vast majority self taught thru trial and error.
A little follow up..
There's this guy I know( and you all know him too) that 3-4 years ago I remember talking with him and he was constantly testing.
I mean like constantly testing and learning.
I used to think Dear Lord that would bore me to death but that was him.
Today he is a VERY well known OC'er and one of the sharpest people I know in this hobby..
IF you guys think there is no skill involved try competing in the super pi low clock challenge, fastest super pi 32 at 4ghz, lets see how you shape up then.
How so? XS is a hub for some of the elite overclockers on the planet; unfortunately banning such legends also denies members some of the invaluable insights they bring into the sub-forums. Andre Yang (AY) benches for Team Pure, not XS. What rule on XS did AY break by "sharing" scores with other XS members? Was the competition organized by XS? Were they representing XS? What if member of this cherished community breaks the law, do they get an automatic ban?
I am by no means questioning the course of action taken by Charles, but this seems to be a grey area that needs to be ironed out quickly to prevent confusion. I certainly am not envious of Charles for this course of action, it must have been one tough decision to make.
I see people looking for people to defend themselves, i feel that XS wouldn't have banned them if they had not done there homework first. Common i am sure this was taken very serious, and hte people saying OMG lifetime ban, bla bla bla is bad, we are a very forgiving people so no matter what the ban was, with the right actions everything could change in a heartbeat.
So i found this because i haden't seen any post yet of any admissions of guilt till this one,..
Here us skinnee's side of the story as he posted itl...
Too bad it have to end this way, but everyone that involved will move on eventually.....new cpu, new gpu will be released no matter what happens to oc community:D
Edit...as I saw this : [Qoute] "an offer came in from Andre for a valid score to secure the 2nd place spot… and out of desperation I took it"........That is stupid "win with all cost" attitude and it deserved the ban:(
im sorry but I believe this applies
http://verydemotivational.files.word...1329426568.jpg
Kudos to hiwa and skinnee for having the nuts to confess and learn from mistakes.
U beat me too it, He was man enough to own up and admit what has happened and came clean, alot of people would of made up a excuse and denied it, a real man comes forward.. always a good thing in my book..
Rules in overclocking (competitively with prize or just to show off your new hardware):
1. Post your own result
2. Show your own work
Once you crossed the line...your credibility and respect will vanished:(