Fun with The Torture Rack

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06-02-2009, 02:16 PM
DarthBeavis

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Originally Posted by shazza

How do you make them straight (without using a ribbon cable)? I thought I could, but for the life of me I cannot figure out how to get the right pins in the right holes of the connectors without crossing them.

Another option I had was just to get a 12 inch extender cable, then switch the female pins/connector on one end for male pins. BUT, PPCs was out of the male pins, and I always like to do things the difficult way the first time a round :p:

Open up your psu. The silverstone ones look like the internal connector is pinned with enough wire lead so you can pin it out and have the wires on the external cable one to one
06-02-2009, 02:17 PM
kinghong1970

um... any one of the ribbon cables from McMaster works?

9634T605

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Type: Multiconductor Cable and Cord
Multiconductor Cable and Cord Type: Flat High-Voltage Cable
Flexible Multiconductor Cable Type: Flat High-Flex
Volts: 20,000 VDC
Amps: 20
Gauge (AWG): 18
Number of Conductors: 8
Width x Thickness (Flat): .14" x .81"
Length: Cut-to-length (per foot)
Maximum Continuous Length: 100'
Shielded: Unshielded
Conductor Type: Stranded
Conductor Material: Tinned Copper
Conductor Insulation Material: Silicone
Jacket Color: Clear
Temperature Range: -85° to +392° F (-65° to +200° C)
Specifications Met: Underwriters Laboratories (UL)
UL Specification: UL 94V0 (Vertical Flame Test)
06-02-2009, 02:20 PM
pingpong1455

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Originally Posted by DarthBeavis

I am familiar with that one as I just gave my last one away (used three of them in my Daywalker project). For the non-molular cables you splice near the psu, make the cable longer, sleeve it, put on new end. The only thing easier is saving money on your automobile insurance by shopping at Geiko

thanks darthbeavis not that ive got the general gist of it i can read up on it

sorry shazza for jacking the thread a little
06-02-2009, 02:41 PM
NaeKuh

im wondering what happened to the good old days where we tried to hide all wiring instead of murdermod them.
06-02-2009, 02:45 PM
NaeKuh

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Originally Posted by pingpong1455

so what are the symptoms of naekuhidus ? ahaha :rofl:

u get really lazy right towards the end of your build and end up not finishing it.
06-02-2009, 03:15 PM
shazza

Hmmmnnn ... that's a possibility, DB. But, I've got another idea up my sleeve ... still thinking about it.

And pingpong ... don't worry about hijacking the thread - this is a learning experience for me and others who are interested. If I was worried about perfection, I wouldn't post pics until I knew everything was perfect ;)

@NaeKuh ... Hiding wires that are in plain site in a Torture Rack is something I haven't figured out how to do. My thought was to try and make them look as good as possible. Unfortunately, I think the uni-sleeving is a bit much for this build - but stay tuned.
06-02-2009, 03:30 PM
NaeKuh

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Originally Posted by shazza

@NaeKuh ... Hiding wires that are in plain site in a Torture Rack is something I haven't figured out how to do.

Done it... :X

You go under the board.
06-02-2009, 03:39 PM
ILikeCosmosS

Shazza it looks good so far :D

i am never going to get the torture rack because i am cheap and i dont like to sleeve the cables only adaptors
06-02-2009, 03:39 PM
DarthBeavis

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Originally Posted by shazza

Hmmmnnn ... that's a possibility, DB. But, I've got another idea up my sleeve ... still thinking about it.

And pingpong ... don't worry about hijacking the thread - this is a learning experience for me and others who are interested. If I was worried about perfection, I wouldn't post pics until I knew everything was perfect ;)

@NaeKuh ... Hiding wires that are in plain site in a Torture Rack is something I haven't figured out how to do. My thought was to try and make them look as good as possible. Unfortunately, I think the uni-sleeving is a bit much for this build - but stay tuned.

Shaz or some other resourceful person, if you can find this in 18 gauge so it would be perfect for a psu. If you find it please link me!!!

Shaz, to stealth cables in a torture rack you make a bottom front panel and then paint all the bottom inside panels ;)
http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/3...4595887963.jpg
http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/4...4585883118.jpg
06-02-2009, 04:03 PM
shazza

@NaeKuh ... OMG - a finished system! That looks good, but I'm trying to get rid of/cover up all the multi-colored wires / fishnet excuse they use for sleeving in some of these power supplies. It's really just a quest I've set for myself to keep occupied.

@Cosmos ... well, you don't have to sleeve everything in a Torture Rack. I'm just experimenting.

@ DB ... That stuff looks interesting. And, yeah --- painting a front panel would be one way to do it, but kind of cheating for the goal I've set for myself here.

A question ... If I want to make a new ATX cable from scratch, can I just use 18 AWG wire for each of the individual wires? The manual shows varying sizes from 16-22 AWG for various wires (although what I see in the actual cable doesn't match their spec) ???
06-02-2009, 04:50 PM
millertime359

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Originally Posted by shazza

BUT, PPCs was out of the male pins, and I always like to do things the difficult way the first time a round :p:

I know, I was wanting to extend cables on my build and ran into this issue too, but it is only the gold pins they are sold out of, they still have this: http://www.performance-pcs.com/catal...oducts_id=3593

I doubt there is a huge difference between the silver and gold.
06-02-2009, 05:07 PM
shazza

Thanks, millertime! I didn't catch that.

And ... here's a quick shot of the sleeved cable in action. I didn't spend time yet "arranging" it neatly - it's just too much stuff sticking out on what is meant to be more of a minimalist build.

http://shazza53.smugmug.com/photos/5...94_VWgQx-M.jpg
06-02-2009, 05:10 PM
pingpong1455

man that looks sweet shazza the blue looks awesome

but i think ill like the red better
06-02-2009, 05:12 PM
Chicken Patty

did you get the blue RAM on purpose? Awesome work!
06-02-2009, 06:09 PM
j.almonte

awesome Shazza !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Im finishing my torture rack too... shame on me I havent post any pics yet !!!!
06-02-2009, 06:20 PM
bianco

you're so organized! amazing how you can keep your work area neat shazza
great work on those heatshrinks!
i will have look at your worklog and remind myself to keep things uniform when i do my sleeving
06-02-2009, 06:44 PM
NaeKuh

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p...94_VWgQx-M.jpg

:P drag it under the board so you dont have a loose waterfall going but more of a curve.
06-02-2009, 07:34 PM
shazza

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Originally Posted by pingpong1455

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but i think ill like the red better

Red looks great!

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Originally Posted by Chicken Patty

did you get the blue RAM on purpose? Awesome work!

Yes - blue RAM for a blue board. Shopping is my specialty ;)

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Originally Posted by j.almonte

awesome Shazza !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Im finishing my torture rack too... shame on me I havent post any pics yet !!!!

Get those pics up! I need some ideas.

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Originally Posted by bianco

you're so organized! amazing how you can keep your work area neat shazza...

Thanks, bianco - not always neat, just trying to be more organized.

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Originally Posted by NaeKuh

:P drag it under the board so you dont have a loose waterfall going but more of a curve.

Ah ha ... I had intended to route the 8-pin under the board, but forgot that the TR has those openings in the mobo tray. I will try going under the board with the 24-pin, although still concerned I've too much going on there. Good idea!

EDIT: Had a chance to do a quick try at routing the cables under the mobo ... has potential:
http://shazza53.smugmug.com/photos/5...45_qVL4T-L.jpg
06-02-2009, 10:01 PM
NaeKuh

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Originally Posted by shazza

EDIT: Had a chance to do a quick try at routing the cables under the mobo ... has potential:
http://shazza53.smugmug.com/photos/5...45_qVL4T-L.jpg

that looks a lot cleaner :up:

now if u want to get all girly like, you can part the middle and make a cute heart. :rofl:
06-02-2009, 10:11 PM
Dangals

I agree with Naekuh - routing the cables under the mobo looks heaps better!!!

More pics are needed though to determine further improvements ;)
06-02-2009, 10:31 PM
Chicken Patty

another vote here for under the mobo :)
06-02-2009, 10:57 PM
xaxis

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Originally Posted by NaeKuh

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p...94_VWgQx-M.jpg

:P drag it under the board so you dont have a loose waterfall going but more of a curve.

I just realized I've never seen a 20/24 molex power connector mounted horizontally (parallel) as apposed to vertically (tangent) on a motherboard. My guess is the reasoning behind that part of the ATX spec is due to insertion force (pulling on things standing vertically tend to topple over - break off) ... that could be it, don't know. :shrug: ... i've been thinking of modding that part of my mobo recently simply based on color... Might try and "parallelize" it too.
I just mention it because I think in a lot of builds, horizontally mounted power molex would make for a far more unobtrusive wiring job if ones' aim is to hide wiring... Of course, when showing of sleeving as wonderful as shazza's, the obtrusive becomes un-...
06-03-2009, 04:08 PM
Movieman

Ok, I got a PM asking for "cleanup in aisle 8"
so what needs to go here without me reading the whole thread?
Give me post numbers and I'll take them out with my wet mop, I mean broom..:D
06-03-2009, 04:16 PM
millertime359

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Originally Posted by Movieman

Ok, I got a PM asking for "cleanup in aisle 8"
so what needs to go here without me reading the whole thread?
Give me post numbers and I'll take them out with my wet mop, I mean broom..:D

I want to say #223, but it really began at 225
06-03-2009, 05:14 PM
Movieman

Ok, I cleaned the thread.
How about a little respect for Shazza, one of the nicest people I've seen on XS.
Manners, tact and never a nasty word that I've seen.
I know none of the OT was meant to harm the thread but would have been better off carried out in PM's or in another thread.
Thanks.

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