Windows Server 2008 is 20% faster than Vista

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04-02-2008, 09:28 AM
Papu

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Originally Posted by MuffinFlavored

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Cut that RAM usage in half!

I am trying to "move in" and make Windows Server 2008 my regular operating system.

I really messed up with the AHCI. I didn't set the SATA ports to act as AHCI.

Now, I have the Intel Chipset drivers installed (8.something.something.11) from the Gigabyte website (The Intel site had a lower version, of their own drivers?).

I may configure a nice Debian install (Linux) to compare RAM usage.
I know just sitting in the UI, Debian only uses 67mb of RAM.

Place how RAM much Windows Server 2008 uses just sitting at the UI with all the un-needed services turned off and no background processes other than the system here.

the reason its cut in half is that he has 2x as much ram , and afaik , it uses about 1/4 of the ram you have, 23% of yours and 23% of his.
04-02-2008, 09:35 AM
deathman20

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Originally Posted by Papu

the reason its cut in half is that he has 2x as much ram , and afaik , it uses about 1/4 of the ram you have, 23% of yours and 23% of his.

Yup... Its very similar to Vista itself.

32-bit uses a little less at roughly 22-25% of ram and 64-bit uses 25-30% on bootup. My friend has 64-bit and 2gigs of ram and he sits around 26% usage after full bootup, and I have 4gigs of ram and I sit around 29% full usage after bootup.

Windows utilizes the resources it has, and the ram takes less power than going back and forth between the HDD's since the ram has to be powered all the time anyways. If it could I'd tell it to keep such and such programs in ram and use even more of it.
04-02-2008, 09:39 AM
Pyr0

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Originally Posted by 003

Pyro if you really shrunk it down to 480mb and it still has a GUI and everything works normally please share what exactly you removed.

I didn't remove anything, it's a project by nn_step

latest thread
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=170601
04-02-2008, 10:01 AM
Papu

Quote:

Originally Posted by deathman20

Yup... Its very similar to Vista itself.

32-bit uses a little less at roughly 22-25% of ram and 64-bit uses 25-30% on bootup. My friend has 64-bit and 2gigs of ram and he sits around 26% usage after full bootup, and I have 4gigs of ram and I sit around 29% full usage after bootup.

Windows utilizes the resources it has, and the ram takes less power than going back and forth between the HDD's since the ram has to be powered all the time anyways. If it could I'd tell it to keep such and such programs in ram and use even more of it.

prefetching should do that automatically if its enabled , my pc boots , loads outlook express , X-chat and itunes faster than a fresh Xp ever did :D

people complain about it using the ram that they have , they dont realise that it scales.
04-02-2008, 10:19 AM
triple_A

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Originally Posted by Papu

prefetching should do that automatically if its enabled , my pc boots , loads outlook express , X-chat and itunes faster than a fresh Xp ever did :D

people complain about it using the ram that they have , they dont realise that it scales.

Yeah I'd like to use the ram i paid for :D
04-02-2008, 10:34 AM
MuffinFlavored

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Originally Posted by Papu

prefetching should do that automatically if its enabled , my pc boots , loads outlook express , X-chat and itunes faster than a fresh Xp ever did :D

people complain about it using the ram that they have , they dont realise that it scales.

I thought, he has twice as much RAM as I do, and nearly the same usage.

25% of my 2GB of RAM is 512MB used.
25% of his 4GB of RAM is 1024MB used.
04-03-2008, 04:19 PM
trans am

for those with asus wifi make sure to dl the server 2003 x64 bit wifi drivers from asus.
04-03-2008, 04:45 PM
[XC] Synthetickiller

I Know this is petty late in the thread to ask, but how are you guys getting server 2008? Sorry for such a n00b question.

I don't want to pay the 1000+ price tag for it. I have messed w/ sever 2003 and loved it over xp. The stability rocks. :up:
04-03-2008, 05:11 PM
Warboy

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Originally Posted by Synthetickiller

I Know this is petty late in the thread to ask, but how are you guys getting server 2008? Sorry for such a n00b question.

I don't want to pay the 1000+ price tag for it. I have messed w/ sever 2003 and loved it over xp. The stability rocks. :up:

Microsoft has a Trial on their website.
04-04-2008, 10:21 AM
trans am

this is fun. I got 2008 Activated and configured to boot straight to the desktop, got Aero working, Ac1 Barracuda is working! now i need plug n play devices to work like 1394 extrernal drive..etc. and ready to roll. it only took me 2 days to get my wireless lan and audio working but it was worth it. I love this os
04-04-2008, 12:39 PM
003

Legit activation? If not, please PM me.
04-04-2008, 04:48 PM
Warboy

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Originally Posted by 003

Legit activation? If not, please PM me.

You do know that what your asking for is against forum rules right? and Microsoft is giving away 240 day trials of 2008, So its not Legit Activation, but Active for only 240 days max.
04-04-2008, 05:19 PM
phelan1777

I gotz meya legit "1yr" copy from MS directly :wave: Server 2k8, and Vista Ultimate (32bit)

We will see what happens in a year, supposedly it will just keep running.
04-04-2008, 05:38 PM
GripS

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Originally Posted by phelan1777

I gotz meya legit "1yr" copy from MS directly :wave: Server 2k8, and Vista Ultimate (32bit)

We will see what happens in a year, supposedly it will just keep running.

Just got mine as well from the launch event here in Seattle. It was my understanding we'd be getting full versions of windows server 2008 as well as a 1 year version of windows vista ultimate 32bit.

I'm curious if the key that i got for windows vista 32bit will work with the 64bit version as well. Anybody tried that yet with your 'promotional' copy of vista 32bit from the 'Hero's happen Here'(<-stupid theme) launch?
04-04-2008, 05:48 PM
003

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Originally Posted by [cTx]Warboy

You do know that what your asking for is against forum rules right? and Microsoft is giving away 240 day trials of 2008, So its not Legit Activation, but Active for only 240 days max.

Actually... if you read carefully, I am not asking about anything against the rules. :up: I know about the 240 day trial, I will be trying that out.
04-04-2008, 06:47 PM
STaRGaZeR

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Originally Posted by deathman20

If it could I'd tell it to keep such and such programs in ram and use even more of it.

Superfetch do that, but it works without user interaction. Would be a HUGE step forward that we can tell Windows what program and when we want it cached. I can't remember where but I read that M$ was going to implement this feature with SP1.
04-04-2008, 09:47 PM
trans am

if you're playing games you might need to see this: http://www.win2008workstation.com/wo...ing-gameuxdll/
04-04-2008, 10:02 PM
MuffinFlavored

Did anyone install Core?
04-12-2008, 08:32 PM
malik22

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Originally Posted by MuffinFlavored

Did anyone install Core?

I would like to know this too.
04-12-2008, 08:38 PM
RAW-Raptor22

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Originally Posted by MuffinFlavored

Did anyone install Core?

Core is command line only... look a few pages back... :yepp:
04-12-2008, 08:54 PM
MuffinFlavored

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Originally Posted by [cTx] Raptor22

Core is command line only... look a few pages back... :yepp:

Alrighty then, thank you.

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Originally Posted by Pyr0

yup, nnstep is shrinking server 2008 for the latest xsos
i burnt the 480mb iso to a cd-rw and had no problems installing from it

Then, how did nnStep make a 480mb ISO of 08?
04-12-2008, 08:59 PM
RAW-Raptor22

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Originally Posted by MuffinFlavored

Alrighty then, thank you.

Then, how did nnStep make a 480mb ISO of 08?

He took alot of crap out of the 32bit version.... ask him... :yepp:
04-12-2008, 09:22 PM
Emerica

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Originally Posted by MuffinFlavored

I may configure a nice Debian install (Linux) to compare RAM usage.
I know just sitting in the UI, Debian only uses 67mb of RAM.

Yeah, just get the net install CD and install xserver-xorg and whichever window manage you like. Depending on the Window manager you can get the RAM usage really low.
04-12-2008, 09:37 PM
MuffinFlavored

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Originally Posted by Emerica

Yeah, just get the net install CD and install xserver-xorg and whichever window manage you like. Depending on the Window manager you can get the RAM usage really low.

I just got done messing with it today.
I got XOrg running, but nVIDIA drivers were a mess, and then I wanted the latest kernel, and I didn't know how to use the bzImage for GRUB.
Then, Xfce4 looked so ugly because I wasn't using Xfwm4, but I didn't know how to make Xorg use it.
04-12-2008, 09:41 PM
Emerica

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Originally Posted by MuffinFlavored

I just got done messing with it today.
I got XOrg running, but nVIDIA drivers were a mess, and then I wanted the latest kernel, and I didn't know how to use the bzImage for GRUB.
Then, Xfce4 looked so ugly because I wasn't using Xfwm4, but I didn't know how to make Xorg use it.

Here's what you do. Right after you install do:

Code:

su - apt-get install xserver-xorg xfce4 xfce4-goodies

Then, use this site to install your nvidia drivers http://www.pendrivelinux.com/2007/11...-debian-lenny/. But, you should download the latest version from the nvidia website which will require a little bit of editing to that tutorial.

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