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Well all of those(especially fx parts) were great chips,but didn't offer asmuch in terms of OCing and tweaking as K10.5(thanks to much better process and added L3) . I'm not sure if 9600 phenom you have is BlackEd. or regular,but it might hit 2.8+Ghz depending on cooling and board.
Oh don't get my post too serious, it was under " " ;). I myself never ran a CPU at default :D,apart from initial assembly/boot process.You can see why my OCing standards are a bit over the top :).
i wish i had the black edition.Quote:
Originally Posted by informal
BE rocks,never got a Brisbane BE,just upped the Mhz to 250 and drop the multi to 12 or 13,set and forget.But Im loving the multi clocking.Never really used multis before even on the mobiles,except to check max cpu,like 202x13 on the Xp2600M.Really thinking about dropping the extra on the Deneb BE.the X3 BEs were a steal,but the Deneb BE will be a little steep for me.Buut the 16x+up multis are REALLY hard to resist once I got the taste.
Nice boost :| realy impressive. I did not know that you would get that kind of boost. Cant wait to start clocking one of these :P. Phenom overclocking is more fun than intel OC. My Brother has a 9850 BE i have a Q9450 and a Tripple core 8450. But the unlocked BE's are a lot of fun with that nb multi.Quote:
Originally Posted by charged3800z24
Is it just me or is the page numbering borked?:shrug: I see a page 30,31,32 and 33, but I can't get any further then 31, clicking on the 32 or 33 get's me back here. Bummer, thought/hoped there was a lot to read :-(
Same problem here... :mad: Wazzup :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by The PyroPath
I think it is because posts have been removed.
Here there's a guy testing these 3 rigs :
http://www2.custompc.co.uk/phpbb/vie...d20c055f2515c2
Going to test everything at stock, 3.6GHz and max OC for the Phenom-II as well.
Rigs:
AMD Rig
Phenom-II 940 (3.0Ghz)
DFI 790FX B M2RSH Motherboard
4 Gigs PC8500 OCZ Reaper 5-5-5-16-2T
Radeon 4870X2
Core2 Rig
E8400 (3.0Ghz)
4Gigs PC8500 G.Skill Pi 5-5-5-16-2T
Maximus Forumula II Motherboard (P45)
Radeon 4870X2
And an i7 in for good measure. This is more than twice the price of the Phenom-II chip but it's a comparrison so whatever. Going to run 4GB dual-channel to keep things almost identical, but will do triple channel as well if I have time (more likely tomorrow) with 6GB.
i7 Rig
i7 940 (2.93Ghz)
ASUS P6T
4 Gigs G.Skill 1333Mhz 8-8-8-22-2T
Radeon 4870X2
He says that he can have the results today..or maybe tomorrow, and also that he don't have any core 2quad to compare with..so we will see core 2duo and i7
lo squartatore posts, history, and existence have been removed. He was a prolific poster of nothingness.Quote:
Originally Posted by The PyroPath
nice another page showing 4ghz on air.Quote:
Originally Posted by AbelJemka
The gods have smiled on us AMD folkz! The mods finally broke out the ban stick. :up:
That's 4ghz air with the pII 920 with like 287 htt which means were gonna be seeing some wicked clocks even on the lower multiplier models.
yea its pretty crazy it looks like the 920 is going to be equal to the 940 almost. just slightly lower overclocks. sorta like how it is now with the 9850 and 9950 they are pretty much the same.Quote:
Originally Posted by Caveman787
Well whatever makes it easier for poorer folks like me :)
Agreed. Hell I may get a cheaper 920 then get a high end AM3 later since I plan on dropping Denebs in all my AMD systems(3).Quote:
Originally Posted by roofsniper
That guy pissed everyone off, Not just AMD folkz:p:Quote:
Originally Posted by Throwed
i bet many people are going to do the same. i just wish i knew what the prices were.Quote:
Originally Posted by Throwed
Agreed. He was the 1st person ever that I wanted to see banned from here. I like it here in the AMD section. Aside from the occasional Intel troll, I really enjoy the info and enthusiast in here. :up: Now, anyone know how much the 920's are going for? :shrug:Quote:
Originally Posted by gallag
EDIT: LOL at Roofsniper....Great minds think alike. We thought the same thing. You beat me to the punch by a few seconds though.
I would say below Q9300/Q9400... but initial prices may be higher. :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by Throwed
It seems HardOCP does have a Phenom II in their hands but NDA is not over yet? http://www.hardocp.com/news.html?new...VzaWFzdCwsLDE=Quote:
Phenom II shows up in the HardForums. First thread with pics and specs and a second thread with benchmarks. Seems they were for sale as well. Two sites had Phenom II 940 and 920 processors for sale, but they have been pulled. For the record, I would not expect to see any official Phenom II information from [H]ard|OCP until the second week of January, as AMD seems to be making us hold our information till it is worthless as far as any surprises. But I will say this, I don't think we would have anything surprising to show you anyway, unless you actually had high expectations for Phenom II. If you own a socket AM2+ motherboard, I would not throw it out quite yet, but I damn sure would not be purchasing a new one.
And that comes from kyle. :confused: :eek:Quote:
Originally Posted by Ghostbuster
Guess he learnd his leason with original phenom. :p: (hyping is bad, mkay ;) )
Yeah, some pretty harsh language in that quote; a disclaimer? :ROTF:Quote:
Originally Posted by Hornet331
Looks good. I am going to try and get one of each.. just for comparison in OCing...
Well seeing the hack job that THG did with OC'ing the Phenom II I'm going to take their negative opinion lightlyQuote:
Originally Posted by Ghostbuster
We all need to look at a broad range of benchmarks from different sources to really see what we have on our hands here. Just the fact that it is considerably better than Phenom I, looks like it OC's like intel chips finally, and is reasonably priced, is enough for me to pick one up. :up:
well so far i see i7 with = to lower OC's but they have a much higher clocking qpi/ht and NB. why is this? is i7 native quad or did they just move the nb on chip?
i am askin here for obvious reasons. :)
most here understand its the total system bandwidth and platform. not just what you can do with your cpu in superpi. LOL
i7 is a native quad and yes it has an imc on the cpu now.Quote:
Originally Posted by SkullCracka
well i knew the imc on cpu now. just wasnt sure why there qpi/ht and nb clock so high.
its it showing tripple data rate were the ati shows single data rate??? hmmmmmmmm
I don't follow Intel prices. A numeric value please!:DQuote:
Originally Posted by Ghostbuster
920 started as early pre-order with a price tag of 226 Euro, will be around that and drop after a while after release.
In Finland cheapest 920 cost 203€.
PhenomII 940 is available for sale in the Greek since this morning. You don't want to know the final price.... 300 EUR!!!!!:shrug:
As I can see, it doesn't cost that much:Quote:
Originally Posted by dread77
http://www.apothema.gr/default.asp?p...catId=598&la=1
For sale as in pre-order or really available as well?Quote:
Originally Posted by dread77
300 Euro is very high though, I only paid 266 for that thing. Then again, I dont have it yet:(
920 is down to 207 Euro pre-order:eek:
I pre-ordered it for 198 :D at azerty.nl (dutch shop)Quote:
Originally Posted by Rammsteiner
Yesterday for a few hours it dropped below 200 lol and now it is back at 208.
Weird thing is that it is 24hours delivery. And one shop even has it for sale at the shop, not only by internet.Greece
http://www.techpowerup.com/79688/Phe...ck_Speeds.html don't know if these have been posted yet. not like it matters tho i have seen stock 9850s get better results so idk whats going on here. the user comments are the best parts tho. everyone thinks these are legit.
half those comments infuriate me and give me headache :(Quote:
Originally Posted by roofsniper
Yeah that was posted before.The same dude(coolice) posted these pics here and we were discussing them in this thread a couple of pages back.
Justapost posted his scores at the same settings/clocks with Agena for comparison.
It's a joke. :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by roofsniper
That is what they are meant to do.Quote:
Originally Posted by demonkevy666
People realize that they can no longer just make a stupid comments about AMD. So they have lowered themselves to making baited comments instead.
i just think that some people are uninformed so when you see a benchmark you just believe it because its all you know about the topic. good thing there is so many people here that are good at finding information so we are all kept up to date.Quote:
Originally Posted by keithlm
Wow, people on TPU are rather... dumb.
Now they SHOULD submit this in their news. ;)
i was thinking you know because am3 cpus have both a ddr2 and ddr3 controllers on chip i wonder if it would be possible to run both at the same time if the motherboard had ram slots for both ddr2 and ddr3. i doubt it would work but what if it actually did? intel just came out with triple channel ram if this worked it could possibly be quad channel. or it could be used as a large low latency cache. lol idk im just dreaming right now.
edit: from the amd k10 white papershmmm what does inbetween mean? like if the memory controllers were ganged and both channels share the same memory controller? or is it possible to run 2 different ram types in unganged?Quote:
The DCTs do not support different DRAM types (DDR2 and DDR3) on the same channel or between channels.
Well, I got banned from their forum for pointing out that there was a flaw in a couple of their reviews, so this comes as no surprice to me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Macadamia
Back on topic: I suppose a motherboard like the new ECS would make Deneb shine the brightest:
"ECS today releases their A790GXM-AD3 motherboard, which is Socket AM3 ready, and thus 45nm Phenom II + DDR3 memory ready.
ECS today releases the A790GXM-AD3 Black Series motherboard disclosing the extraordinary gaming performance of AMD’s latest Dragon platform. Supporting the latest AMD Phenom™ II processors, ATI CrossFireX™ technology, and the dual channel DDR3 memory architecture, ECS A790GXM-AD3 unleashes the full potential of hardware components that gamers are always eager for. With its upscale capability, the A790GXM-AD3 motherboard brings a spectacular gaming platform delivering the irrefutable performance to satisfy the gaming desire of extreme gamers.
Inheriting the advantages of AMD 790GX chipset, the A790GXM-AD3 Black Series motherboard incorporates the support for the latest 45nm AMD Phenom™ II processors to deliver the next generation computing capabilities. In addition, ECS A790GXM-AD3 comes with the feature of dual channel memory architecture that supports DDR3 1333MHz memory up to the capacity of 32GB which is capable to provide faster data throughput for memory-intensive applications. To meet hardcore overclockers’ requirements, the latest exclusive BIOS utility, M.I.B. II, is included to provide various detailed tweaking options. Paired with AMD SB750 south bridge controller supporting the function of ACC (Advanced Clock Calibration), ECS A790GXM-AD3 allows users to push the overall system performance to another higher scale. As the key factors that eventually decide the stability while overclocking, the 5 phase power design"
It's weird why brands are putting out AM3 boards when there's 1 month left for the AM3 cpu's to arrive to the market ...
... this makes me think ...
... maybe that question about PII am2+ being compatible with AM3 boards ... maybe that's not so out of the book as we thought...
I just have a hard time thinking that a company, in these days where economic turndown is the main focus when planing a selling strategy, puts a AM3 board to sale and they know that, at the moment, the sales will be very very low due to the non existence of AM3 CPU's...
I'm still trying to fight through my ideas and believes and decide if i go with i7 or PII ... :)
For one side the power i7 ... but the price of de i7 is way to high ( yes, i am willing to pay for it, but if can save some money... best for me )
The other side, PII ... a old passion for AMD cpu's and the unclear performance makes me apprehensive
letsssss wait and see
am3 where's on HT3.1 mentioned on that board?
HT3.1 is not supported yet. these 45nm cpus were the first to actually support HT 3.0 as the original phenoms only half supported it. HT 3.1 has already been designed but hasn't been implemented yet.Quote:
Originally Posted by demonkevy666
now it all makes sense am2+ 2600mhz am3 board supported 2,600-3,200mhz. maybe.Quote:
Originally Posted by roofsniper
the am2+ chips and the am3 chip should have the same exact ht speeds. ht 3.0 has a max hyper transport speed of 2.6ghz. i have always thought that the only difference between the two chips was one supported ddr3 and ddr2 and one supported ddr2. http://www.hypertransport.org/defaul...SpecificationsQuote:
Originally Posted by demonkevy666
so just because everyone was curious about am2+ cpus using ddr3 i asked about it. k10 does infact have a ddr3 controller on it but am2+ cpus can not use it because it is disabled through fuses. so i asked if am2+ cpus could work in am3 motherboards. he wasn't sure but he said if it would work it would not work with ddr3. so even if am2+ cpus would work in am3 motherboards the am3 boards would have to have ddr2 memory slots.
edit: so im doing a google search for fuses on k10 and i get this from our own forums from last year when k10 was first released: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...&postcount=699. it also states that there is a ddr3 controller but it is disabled through fuses.
IF the AM2+ Deneb works in AM3 motherboards, as someone has claimed, then it would be because of the following:
(DISCLAIMER: This is based ONLY on my opinion and a guess)
There might not really be a "true" AM2+ Deneb. All DENEB chips might be AM3 chips that will work on AM3 or AM2+ motherboards. They may just release the first couple of chips before AM3 motherboards are available and say that they are AM2+ Denebs for marketing purposes.
So why they dont make all PH2 backward compatible with am2+?
they all should work in am2+. even the am3 version.Quote:
Originally Posted by Morais
might be possible since i really don't understand why they made an am2+ version. hell if the am3 one can do both and they are both physically the same cpu but the am2+ version has the ddr3 controller disabled then they should both cost the same to manufacture. my only guess why they made an am2+ version is because they were planning to have a larger launch gap between the am2+ and am3 cpus and the am3 ones weren't quite ddr3 ready. if they have both an am2+ deneb and an am3 one i wouldn't be surprised if they stopped making the am2+ one after the am3 launch.Quote:
Originally Posted by keithlm
MERRY X-MAS EVE YOU MUDDA'XS'ERS!:YIPPIE::toast:
I thought that HT3.1 is Orochi/Bulldozer(32nm) features.
http://images.anandtech.com/reviews/...ntroadmap2.jpg
Besides i don't think HT3 is bottlenecked yet so no improvements for desktop because of HT3.1.
Uh oh, the whole of 2009 and 2010 AMD have no new CPU to replace Deneb. They're really confident of this baby? :shocked:Quote:
Originally Posted by Eson
Yeah, that's what I was thinking. They must be planning on ramping the clockspeeds over time. Otherwise they will become completely uncompetitive again once Intel goes 32nm in early 2010.Quote:
Originally Posted by amdcian
phenom I went for 2 months in 2007 and all of 2008. it was supposed to last two years but it got delayed 8 months. intel is doing the same with nehalem i believe. i don't think they got anything new coming for awhile either.Quote:
Originally Posted by amdcian
I think that ! AMD will go to 22nm with Orochi/Bulldozer.
Intel's roadmaps still show Westemere (Nehalem 32nm shrink) for Q4 09.Quote:
Originally Posted by roofsniper
Also i doubt this is a complete roadmap from amd. :yepp:
Yep.They are likely to try out 32nm on a shrink of Deneb/Istanbul than go for a new process node and a new uarchitecture in one go.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hornet331
Great, AMD going to go 32nm 2011. Unless they can improve their 45nm process quite a bit, there is no way AMD can compete against Intel, considering that Intel has way better fabrication process compared to AMD, not to mention smaller node(With Immersion Lithography?) in 2010.
Basically AMD has two advantages regarding current leakage, SOI and IL, while Intel has HKMG. Intel 32 nm will be far superior to anything AMD will have until 2011, and probably even until AMD gets their 32nm process working. Basically AMD is at it's best with PhII in 2009, and after it, well, PhII will be quite like PhI is right now - thrashed by any Intel QC. Though, that applies only if AMD can not improve PhII much during 2009/early 2010. I doubt they can do more than new silicon revisions which are not going to save them against Intel's very fine tuned and mature 45nm process.
Then again, I doubt AMD are going to live with 45nm for that long. They desperately need to close the gap with Intel in order to become competitive again. Even if AMD has superior Uarch, superior manufacturing process, Intel will hold the market share no matter what. They can produce so much more than AMD can that they can sell their chips for lower prices and still make profit. There is no way for AMD to counter this, other than getting more chips produced, meaning that TFC needs a lot more fabs.
Call me a fanboy or idiot or whatever you want, but thats how I see it. In terms of manufacturing CPU's, Intel is unbeatable by anyone. They are the best at it.
little early to predict amd's future. as we know anything can change at any time as seen by the 4870 even tho those weren't the performance leader they still came out ahead over the 280 because of its price. phenom II could end up the same way and it has been showing promise in what we have seen so far.Quote:
Originally Posted by Calmatory
ATI vs. Nvidia is purely up to the microarchitecture design because both companies have the same chip manufacturer(TSMC). AMD vs. Intel is up to the microarchotecture design, manufacturing process and manufacturing volume. Remember the K8 vs. P4, the reason why AMD dominated was the fact that Intel failed with their microarchitecture while AMD succeeded very well with theirs. Soon after Intel got theirs very right(C2D was huge success like K8), AMD got their ass kicked.Quote:
Originally Posted by roofsniper
CPU produced at Intel's fab will cost less than the same CPU produced at AMD's fab for at least two reasons; Intel can pack transistors more tightly resulting in smaller die and Intel has better yields. More working dies per wafer. This means that the only way AMD can keep Intel behind is Intel struggling with their designs and fabs, which is not likely due to their superb expertise and knowledge. Both companies have extremely talented designers and engineers working for them, but Intel has better fabs, so they can sell for cheaper, and sell way more.
Well, this is off topic, but where is the thread to discuss this anyway? :shrug:
AMD doesn't need a market share of 50% to survive, they can sell alot less than Intel and still do just fine.Quote:
Originally Posted by Calmatory
Here is a greek(full of charts so you will understand everything :) ) review for Deneb.
We have deneb 920 + 940 compared to Core i7 920 + 940 Q6600 , Q9450 & Q9550.
http://www.hwbox.gr/showthread.php?p=27568
I the next couple of days we will upload a clock to clock comparison; deneb vs bloomfield vs yorkfield vs kentsfield.
Stay tuned :)
the reason why i was referencing towards the 4870 was because the 8800gt owned the 3870 but ati turned around and whipped out the 4870. what if amd comes around and whips out something amazing?Quote:
Originally Posted by Calmatory
yep that image says a lot for people who think amd is taking 2009 and 2010 off. and i see November 13th 2008 on there too so its up to date.Quote:
Originally Posted by Oliverda
looks like amd has soi and hkmg.Quote:
Basically AMD has two advantages regarding current leakage, SOI and IL, while Intel has HKMG.
Oh, didn't know AMD is going HKMG with 32nm. So Intel will have IL with 32nm and AMD will have HKMG.Quote:
Originally Posted by roofsniper
The reason why AMD can't do "RV770" with CPU's is the way CPU's are. The reason why RV770 turned out to be good was that it had plenty of SP's, TMU's and ROPs and no major bottlenecks. The current GPU's are improved by adding more primitive processors and increasing parallelism. This can't be done to CPU's as the design is VERY much different. CPU consists out of many more complex parts than GPU does. To improve existing uarch you need to redesign quite a bit more of the more complex core. To improve a GPU you need to redesign/modify existing logic and add more units to the core and modify the drivers to be efficient with the improved core.
Basically GPU is a bunch of small, simple cores slapped together and a CPU is a huge, complex core. Thats why it is not possible to radically improve the existing uarch like it is with GPU's. Once a uarch fails, there won't be a new chance until new uarch is finished.
That is a way of seing it, the way i see it, and the way AMD saw it and because of that they took the fabless way is this:Quote:
Originally Posted by Calmatory
You have 20% market share, you need to invest constantly a lot in the latest manufacturing technology in order to be competitive,
because of low sales + huge amortization cost(because fabs cost money) = HUGE LOSS. This is exactly what has happened theese last years
So if you take the huge burden of constant renewall of fabs, and the anual amortization cost from the equation = Profit!
Is like this, what you prefer, low production cost + huge cost in constant retooling of the fabs + huge amortization cost
Or, higher production cost, were you pay for what you sell. This is the way Amd went
@Calmatory
The costs of production at intel may be cheaper, but the yealds at AMDs fabs are very very good.
really the selling of amds fabs to me seems like a good idea. they badly needed the cash now and they are still getting their chips produced from the same place just at a higher price. the only time they will ever regret it is once they become profitable and they are doing very well and maybe even have the performance crown. which really the only thing to look foward to in 2009 is breaking even.
Weird results :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by OverClocker_gr
Why PII seems to better support high resolution gaming than Penryn?
Like more stressful it becomes the more global PII architecture shines!
Very Intriguing :shakes:
I think it's because of the large L1 cache and IMC.Quote:
Originally Posted by AbelJemka
Holy crap, Farcry 2 and Crysis Warhead bench :(Quote:
Originally Posted by OverClocker_gr
I think that's all I needed to see, holy :banana::banana::banana::banana:.:(
I think so and i find it quite impressive ;)
The lower res bench is harder on the cpu, and the Q6600 does better than the higher clocked PII in that bench? ouch!Quote:
Originally Posted by AbelJemka
3 games benchs and Q6600 win one bench and is far from 920 and 940 in two others.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zucker2k
Zucker2K conclusions : Q6600 owns them = blindly pathetic :down:
you know for a few days we had no trolls in here at all and it was pretty nice. i understand that some people are intel fanboys and some people think deneb sucks. but what do you gain by coming in here and saying it sucks? and the funny thing is that the people saying it can never produce a legit argument.
As I've understood, Intel has the best manufacturing fabs worldwide. Right now I have no time to dig for articles/other material but if someone has some regarding AMD/Intel fabs then please share.Quote:
Originally Posted by cumec
For other post: L1 cache sizes should not have big influence on performance really, if they did, they would be bigger than what they are currently.
I understand your point. However, IMO even though this is AMD section and Deneb thread, it shouldn't mean that pointing out (in proper and mature way) the facts regarding results shouldn't be frowned upon in any way - even if they show that Deneb would be thrashed by early P3's or something similar.Quote:
Originally Posted by roofsniper
i just can't understand how people can judge a product even before it has been released or formal benchmarks have been released. and the problem is most intel fanboys pick the thing intel is better at and just rave about it. you don't see me going into the intel section says i7 sucks because it uses too much power or that it costs too much. here is a perfect example of what i am talking about.
as i recall the phenom owned intel in memory latency benchmarks but i don't think that mattered. if people would look at the things that mattered like how it actually performs in things that you do then you can talk about it.Quote:
The lower res bench is harder on the cpu, and the Q6600 does better than the higher clocked PII in that bench? ouch!
things that i think that matter:
game performance(for people who play games)
power usage
price
platform
overclockability
we see the phenom getting trashed by people just because it gets owned in certain benchmarks that don't matter. then if you look at the overall game performance the results are very similar. and any results with fps over 150 don't even matter. im talking about stuff that matters. the phenom II holds its own in games and is very close to the performance of i7 for a way cheaper price and lower temps. plus we see the performance of the phenom II being compared to the performance of i7 when both are at stock. this is xs and most people overclock here. just because the cpu doesn't perform well at stock doesn't mean you should pass it up. it the thing overclocks like a dream then it could come out as a performance leader. all of these things i said will come into play after it actually gets released. i highly doubt seeing someone walking into a computer store and picking up a i7 over a phenom II just for the fact that he saw that the i7 beat the phenom II in some pi benchmark. but thats the way people are acting now. it will be nice one it is released and there is nothing to troll about anymore because everything that is ignored before it is released will actually matter when the time comes.
I think we need more complete reviews that what we saw at Greek website.
Moreover as Roofsniper said the real deal is overclocking PII , no ones gona run it @stock.Thats when the fun begins. :up:
@Zucker2k stop trolling and stop posting if u can't post anything usefull.:shakes:
I though this XS running your system to the extreme, not trashing every produced that fall by 1% behind the competitor.Quote:
Originally Posted by Blaber
All current and future comments that are off topic will be notified to the mods. I suggest all other people that don't want to here this crap do the same. This way we can put an end to all of this Intel nonsense. This will also help clean up disruptive users via BAN.
@Calmatory......Wanna place to discuss Intel or comparisons? GO MAKE YOUR OWN THREAD ELSEWHERE!
Like where?Quote:
Originally Posted by Throwed
the amd or intel section after deneb has been released. im cool with comparisons against intel cpus but first the cpus being compared need to be released. i just hope nothing embarrassing happens when it is released. something like a tlb bug or some performance bug that would tarnish its reputation even if it got fixed with a bios update down the line.Quote:
Originally Posted by Calmatory
You do realise you are wrong on every aspect of that statement ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Zucker2k
HereQuote:
Originally Posted by Calmatory
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=212186
Post to your hearts content, goes for everybody else who wants to post comparitive benchmarks.
In the 'General Hardware' section
Lets see who post just to get attention and who posts because they actually want to have a discussion...............
Hey Demon I didn't get your point.Thrashing , when and where I did that.Lol pls check my sig.I and thrash Phenom II impossible.:shrug:Quote:
Originally Posted by demonkevy666
Something about coldbug with Phenom II 940 on cascade ->
HTT 270 bootable
HTT 280 easly to bench
NB and HT freq. 2250MHz - easly to bench
Evap temp ~-115*C, for me it's good score :D
Thanks for info Ryba!Quote:
Originally Posted by ryba
What clocks did you achieve on cascade?
PS. Is PhII already available to buy in Poland? (if yes, then where)
Is not available now to buy it ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Lightman
5.2GHz for Spi16/32M and less than 5GHz for wprime/3dm06 with 1.7V :(
Hi there.You can try and completely avoid the coldbug by running HyperTransport links at ~1GHz.NB clocks can be default or even higher,but HyperTransport should be kept at 1.0 standard and at 1GHz.Quote:
Originally Posted by ryba
Do I have to say this again? :rolleyes:
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ashraf
thank you :up: