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12-21-2008, 02:41 AM
Oliverda

Quote:

Originally Posted by faior

Oliverda, is that TRUE 120 cooler? Whats your temps?

Yes it is. My CPU's temps are around 53-55C at full load. 3.2GHz@1.35V
12-21-2008, 02:57 AM
oc_junkY

Quote:

Originally Posted by MadDias

i think i found the reason for the weird "downclocking" i´m experiencing when running prime95 for a few minutes.
it´s the mosfet/nb cooling...
even at 3.2ghz idling it´s getting so hot that u can´t really touch it.
just for fun i tried putting the stock amd coolerfan that came with my 9950 on the mosfet heatsink. that way i could pass 3dmark vantage runs at 3.4ghz without having those weird hiccups during the cpu-test (guess that was because of the "downclocking" when the mosfets or the nb exceeded a certain temp). that lil 90mm fan went up to 4900rpm during the benchmark so that heatpipe thing get´s really hot and i think i need to put it under water too.

Hey this is really hot, how do you read the MB temps?
I'm using asus probe2 and i' having around 31°C at full load with intelburntest using maximum ram.
What voltages have you set?
I'm using
HT voltage: 1.34
NB (core) voltage: 1.3

I've come a little further with my AMD system, i'm aiming for a 100% stable 24/7 overclock, because this system ist mainly my storage server with software raid and encryption.
here is a result with a uncommon CPU for this board ;)
http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/5...0mhzqx5.th.jpg

junkY
12-21-2008, 03:55 AM
MadDias

Quote:

Originally Posted by oc_junkY

Hey this is really hot, how do you read the MB temps?
I'm using asus probe2 and i' having around 31°C at full load with intelburntest using maximum ram.
What voltages have you set?
I'm using
HT voltage: 1.34
NB (core) voltage: 1.3

i use aod to read out the mb temps. but i also have a thermal sensor of my zalman zm-mfc2 attached to the fins of the heatpipe cooler. that sensor reads 65°C under full load. that´s only the cooler fins, so maybe the whole mosfet and nb are getting a little hotter.
the voltages for ht and nbcore are at stock. cpu is at 1.4v+2%acc at 3.2ghz.
12-21-2008, 04:06 AM
oc_junkY

Quote:

Originally Posted by MadDias

i use aod to read out the mb temps. but i also have a thermal sensor of my zalman zm-mfc2 attached to the fins of the heatpipe cooler. that sensor reads 65°C under full load. that´s only the cooler fins, so maybe the whole mosfet and nb are getting a little hotter.
the voltages for ht and nbcore are at stock. cpu is at 1.4v+2%acc at 3.2ghz.

i can easily put my fingers on every peace of copper (mosfet,nb,sb) on that mainboard, and it's rather cool.
there are 2 possibilities:
1. your phenom is stressing the mosfets/northbridge much more than my x2 5050e or
2. your board is not ok

have you got annother cpu which you test the board with?
and btw, whar are your ambient temps and which case are you using?
mine are about 20-22°C and the board is in a sharkoon rebel 12 with a 25cm fan blowing at it.
12-21-2008, 09:03 AM
Darxide

Hi guys, I've decided this is the board for me, but can someone please explain the 1066 memory thing?
I've read that the Phenom can only handle 1066 memory in 1 stick per channel? So does that mean we have to run our mem in single channel mode? Or drop to 800 in dual channel?
Sorry if this is a stupid question, or has already been discussed, I'm just a little confused?
What benefit does dual channel give? And would 1066 single channel be better than 800 dual channel?
12-21-2008, 09:13 AM
Chicken Patty

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oliverda

Yes it is. My CPU's temps are around 53-55C at full load. 3.2GHz@1.35V

You sure the heatsink is seated right? Maybe the thermal compound not applied correctly? When I got the new board that I tried it without taking off the AM2 retention bracket I tried it on air and with my 9950 @ 3.2 GHz @ 1.4v I saw about 55ºc full load with the factory Heatsink.

Couple of questions

1- What is more or less your ambient temp?
2- what are you using to monitor temps?
3- What were your load temps before the TRUE?
12-21-2008, 09:16 AM
Chicken Patty

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darxide

Hi guys, I've decided this is the board for me, but can someone please explain the 1066 memory thing?
I've read that the Phenom can only handle 1066 memory in 1 stick per channel? So does that mean we have to run our mem in single channel mode? Or drop to 800 in dual channel?
Sorry if this is a stupid question, or has already been discussed, I'm just a little confused?
What benefit does dual channel give? And would 1066 single channel be better than 800 dual channel?

hi there Darxide, welcome to XS.

you can run 1066 in dual channel. You just have to make sure to go into the BIOS and set your memory frequency to 1066. Yes 1066 would be better than 800. The 1066 RAM is already manufactured to run at 1066, so you can set it at 800 in the BIOS and then you can raise your FSB and not have to worry if you are pushing the RAM while raising the FSB, or you can leave it at 1066 and try to clock the memory even higher.
12-21-2008, 09:17 AM
demonkevy666

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darxide

Hi guys, I've decided this is the board for me, but can someone please explain the 1066 memory thing?
I've read that the Phenom can only handle 1066 memory in 1 stick per channel? So does that mean we have to run our mem in single channel mode? Or drop to 800 in dual channel?
Sorry if this is a stupid question, or has already been discussed, I'm just a little confused?
What benefit does dual channel give? And would 1066 single channel be better than 800 dual channel?

phenom can run two 1066mhz it's 2gbs sticks put more stress on the IMC. 9 I haven't seen many running 8gbs yet.

in ganged mode it runs in one 128bit dual channel and unganged it runs two 64 bit channels.

there difference is in mutli-thread programs and single threaded programs
12-21-2008, 09:32 AM
Oliverda

Quote:

Originally Posted by lo squartatore

in summer not stable :yepp:

Yeah, but it's still much better than you. As we see you are not stable even in the winter at all. :D

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chicken Patty

You sure the heatsink is seated right? Maybe the thermal compound not applied correctly? When I got the new board that I tried it without taking off the AM2 retention bracket I tried it on air and with my 9950 @ 3.2 GHz @ 1.4v I saw about 55ºc full load with the factory Heatsink.

Couple of question

1- What is more or less your ambient temp?
2- what are you using to monitor temps?
3- What were your load temps before the TRUE?

I'm sure and I use AC MX-2 tc. The ambeint is around 25C. I use Everest for monitorting. It can show the core temp.

I can't remember my load temps before the TRUE because that was more than a year ago with different board and CPU.

Overall I'm pleased with the temps because I have a relative slow fan on the heatsink.
12-21-2008, 09:48 AM
Chicken Patty

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oliverda

Yeah, but it's still much better than you. As we see you are not stable even in the winter at all. :D

I'm sure and I use AC MX-2 tc. The ambeint is around 25C. I use Everest for monitorting. It can show the core temp.

I can't remember my load temps before the TRUE because that was more than a year ago with different board and CPU.

Overall I'm pleased with the temps because I have a relative slow fan on the heatsink.

Thanks. I dont know, my ambient temps are around the same, I used Core temp for readings, but core temp and everest are only within a few degrees of each other. Regardless i'm sure temps went down so its an improvement anyways :)
12-21-2008, 10:21 AM
charged3800z24

Quote:

Originally Posted by demonkevy666

phenom can run two 1066mhz it's 2gbs sticks put more stress on the IMC. 9 I haven't seen many running 8gbs yet.

in ganged mode it runs in one 128bit dual channel and unganged it runs two 64 bit channels.

there difference is in mutli-thread programs and single threaded programs

you can run dual 128 in both ganged and unganged On this bored. I couldn't on the K9A2 Plat board before I sold it tho. But all my other boards allow me to. As long as the DIMMs are in the right slots.
(Ganged)
http://3800z24.info/Phenom/9950/Dual...3.3g_32bit.JPG
(UnGanged)
http://3800z24.info/Phenom/9950/3.3ghz_dual_unGang.JPG
12-21-2008, 01:50 PM
crazydiamond

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oliverda

I'm sure and I use AC MX-2 tc. The ambeint is around 25C. I use Everest for monitorting. It can show the core temp.

I can't remember my load temps before the TRUE because that was more than a year ago with different board and CPU.

Overall I'm pleased with the temps because I have a relative slow fan on the heatsink.

that doesnt sound toooo bad, but id have to agree that they sound a little high for the V's considering the true copper is supposed to be best air cooler... at 1.36v mine sits around 47-48c and if the room is warm 50-51c max. also using mx2
12-21-2008, 01:54 PM
Chicken Patty

Quote:

Originally Posted by crazydiamond

that doesnt sound toooo bad, but id have to agree that they sound a little high for the V's considering the true copper is supposed to be best air cooler... at 1.36v mine sits around 47-48c and if the room is warm 50-51c max. also using mx2

Thats what I thought, but not every rig, not every configuration is the same. Maybe although his are still a bit higher than some of the other users, maybe he still saw a good decrease in temps. If thats the case, then I guess its all ok.
12-21-2008, 03:45 PM
MadDias

Quote:

Originally Posted by oc_junkY

i can easily put my fingers on every peace of copper (mosfet,nb,sb) on that mainboard, and it's rather cool.
there are 2 possibilities:
1. your phenom is stressing the mosfets/northbridge much more than my x2 5050e or
2. your board is not ok

have you got annother cpu which you test the board with?
and btw, whar are your ambient temps and which case are you using?
mine are about 20-22°C and the board is in a sharkoon rebel 12 with a 25cm fan blowing at it.

well.. i hope that my phenom is stressing the mosfets a little more than ur x2.. at least it´s a 140watter.
i don´t have another cpu to test with. why should i test? it´s working properly if i don´t stress it too much, 3.4ghz@1.6v is really stressing it.
ambient temp is around 23-25°C and my case is a chieftech mesh big tower with a 3x120mm radiator in the top and one 120mm fan at the back under the powersupply. if i had a 250mm fan blowing at my board i bet it wouldn´t get hot. but i´m on water so i don´t have a really good airflow over the board.
12-21-2008, 03:52 PM
Chicken Patty

Quote:

Originally Posted by MadDias

well.. i hope that my phenom is stressing the mosfets a little more than ur x2.. at least it´s a 140watter.
i don´t have another cpu to test with. why should i test? it´s working properly if i don´t stress it too much, 3.4ghz@1.6v is really stressing it.
ambient temp is around 23-25°C and my case is a chieftech mesh big tower with a 3x120mm radiator in the top and one 120mm fan at the back under the powersupply. if i had a 250mm fan blowing at my board i bet it wouldn´t get hot. but i´m on water so i don´t have a really good airflow over the board.

test it with either PRime 95, or wprime, wprime is a multithreaded benchmark that uses all cores @ 100%, works very well but doesnt kill PWM's like prime does.
12-21-2008, 09:41 PM
evilSuRGe

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Quote:

Originally Posted by demonkevy666

phenom can run two 1066mhz it's 2gbs sticks put more stress on the IMC. 9 I haven't seen many running 8gbs yet.

in ganged mode it runs in one 128bit dual channel and unganged it runs two 64 bit channels.

there difference is in mutli-thread programs and single threaded programs

Here's Mine running 8gig Ganged
12-22-2008, 12:24 AM
crazydiamond

what board and ram evilsurge?
12-22-2008, 12:59 AM
Sunfire

Quote:

Originally Posted by crazydiamond

what board and ram evilsurge?

CPU-Z shows M3A79-T Deluxe and G.Skill F2-8500CL5-2GBPK :)
12-22-2008, 06:14 AM
Trunks

c'mon guys,
I want to see some phenom II teasers with the M3A79-T :p:
12-22-2008, 06:24 AM
N19h7m4r3

I just ordered this Mobo for a Phenom II. :D
Hope it handles good, and I hope they don't bring out new AM2+ boards :(
12-22-2008, 06:26 AM
Darxide

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chicken Patty

hi there Darxide, welcome to XS.

you can run 1066 in dual channel. You just have to make sure to go into the BIOS and set your memory frequency to 1066. Yes 1066 would be better than 800. The 1066 RAM is already manufactured to run at 1066, so you can set it at 800 in the BIOS and then you can raise your FSB and not have to worry if you are pushing the RAM while raising the FSB, or you can leave it at 1066 and try to clock the memory even higher.

Hey, thanks.
I was gonna get a Phenom 9950, but I've now decided to wait for the Phenom II, so I've bought a cheap Athlon X2 4000+ from eBay, just to get up and running. That way I can make sure the BIOS is flashed to the latest version for Phenom II.
Still havn't bought any RAM though......suggestions?

I was thinking about this stuf

http://www.geil.com.tw/products/showSpec/id/118
12-22-2008, 10:13 AM
N19h7m4r3

Mushkin Black Ascent 1006 is superb ram.
http://www.kmelektronik.de/
Not expensive either.
12-22-2008, 01:20 PM
evilSuRGe

Has any of you guys had an issue with the board not posting and crash recovery not working?
Everytime I raise HT above 2000 the board will not post and i have to clear cmos.
IT's pissing me off that i cant overclock the HT without it not posting and i have to take out my 3870X2 everytime to reset cmos.
12-22-2008, 02:07 PM
Doctor Pepper

Quote:

Originally Posted by evilSuRGe

Has any of you guys had an issue with the board not posting and crash recovery not working?
Everytime I raise HT above 2000 the board will not post and i have to clear cmos.
IT's pissing me off that i cant overclock the HT without it not posting and i have to take out my 3870X2 everytime to reset cmos.

Had my HT up in "sync" with my NB for a while (around 2400-2450 MHz) with no problem other than heat. Lowered down to 2000 to shave off a couple of degrees, while keeping NB at 2400+. It should work! (I imagine(?) that 2400/2400 "felt" :rolleyes: smoother than 2000/2400, but I am probably wrong...)

What bios do you use? Did you load default setting after flashing (if you have flashed)? Do you overclock in bios or via AOD?
12-22-2008, 04:33 PM
Chicken Patty

Quote:

Originally Posted by evilSuRGe

Has any of you guys had an issue with the board not posting and crash recovery not working?
Everytime I raise HT above 2000 the board will not post and i have to clear cmos.
IT's pissing me off that i cant overclock the HT without it not posting and i have to take out my 3870X2 everytime to reset cmos.

just out of curiousity what BIOS are you using?

I had that issue with the 0504 BIOS, I couldn't raise my FSB or it wouldn't post. Wierd, but it was the BIOS. I returned to the 0403 BIOS after that and rig ran perfectly.
12-22-2008, 04:48 PM
bingo13

BIOS 0701 should be out shortly....
12-22-2008, 06:34 PM
evilSuRGe

Quote:

Originally Posted by bingo13

BIOS 0701 should be out shortly....

You're such a tease...;)
12-22-2008, 06:39 PM
evilSuRGe

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chicken Patty

just out of curiousity what BIOS are you using?

I had that issue with the 0504 BIOS, I couldn't raise my FSB or it wouldn't post. Wierd, but it was the BIOS. I returned to the 0403 BIOS after that and rig ran perfectly.

I'm on 0602. When i got the board it had 0403 and once i installed vista i used the asus update tool to go to 0602
I might try and reflash it back to 0403 then load default since i didnt do that when i flashed it the first time.
12-22-2008, 10:54 PM
Chicken Patty

Quote:

Originally Posted by evilSuRGe

I'm on 0602. When i got the board it had 0403 and once i installed vista i used the asus update tool to go to 0602
I might try and reflash it back to 0403 then load default since i didnt do that when i flashed it the first time.

I didnt have any problems with 0602, however my most stable overclock was with 0403, for me all the way up to 0602 my favorite was 0403. give it a shot and see.
12-23-2008, 12:36 PM
gOtVoltage

Quote:

Originally Posted by bingo13

BIOS 0701 should be out shortly....

Id like to see this 0701 break the 294htt barrier. Would be sweet indeed:D
12-25-2008, 01:39 AM
imamage

Quote:

Originally Posted by T7ank

Hey!

I'm going to buy AMD MB next week, but i can't choose which one.
What would you recomend, M3A78-T, M3A79-T DLX or something else?
I prefer stable high overclock and good superpi times.

Regards, M

For High overclock , I suggest you pay extra and get M3A79-T DELUXE
It's quite good :welcome:
12-25-2008, 01:48 AM
VoodooProphetII

I just recently got myself a Phenom 9950 and Asus M3A79-T Deluxe. I'm running the chip up to 3.3Ghz at 1.4Vcore using only a multi increase. I am however struggling to get 4 x 1GB Crucial Ballistix Tracers DDR1066 stable, even at 800mhz, unganged and ganged 2T it will be stable for a couple of minutes, and sometimes even for almost an hour AOD stbility test.

My setup is:
Phenom 9950
Asus M3A79-T Deluxe
4 x 1GB Crucial Ballistix Tracers
EVGA GTX280 (640 core, 1391 shader, 1250 memory)
Antec Trio 650Watt PSU.

Any ideas how I could get 4 x 1GB ram stable on this setup?

With 2 sticks and same settings I can run stability tests for an hour without any problems...
12-25-2008, 01:54 AM
imamage

Quote:

Originally Posted by evilSuRGe

Has any of you guys had an issue with the board not posting and crash recovery not working?
Everytime I raise HT above 2000 the board will not post and i have to clear cmos.
IT's pissing me off that i cant overclock the HT without it not posting and i have to take out my 3870X2 everytime to reset cmos.

I am having the same problem
It's very annoying BTW:down:

BTW , my 9950BE seems don't like to run anything higher than 3.2GHz even with 1.475V
Maybe I should just wait for Phenom II 940 later
12-25-2008, 01:57 AM
imamage

Quote:

Originally Posted by VoodooProphetII

I just recently got myself a Phenom 9950 and Asus M3A79-T Deluxe. I'm running the chip up to 3.3Ghz at 1.4Vcore using only a multi increase. I am however struggling to get 4 x 1GB Crucial Ballistix Tracers DDR1066 stable, even at 800mhz, unganged and ganged 2T it will be stable for a couple of minutes, and sometimes even for almost an hour AOD stbility test.

My setup is:
Phenom 9950
Asus M3A79-T Deluxe
4 x 1GB Crucial Ballistix Tracers
EVGA GTX280 (640 core, 1391 shader, 1250 memory)
Antec Trio 650Watt PSU.

Any ideas how I could get 4 x 1GB ram stable on this setup?

With 2 sticks and same settings I can run stability tests for an hour without any problems...

I used to run 4x 1GB D9GMH RAM (Crucial Ballistix & Team Xtreme Mixed) on the board , it "NEVER" boot well when I set DDR2-1066 mode @ BIOS
But the four stick setup works fine with @ DDR2-800 2.0V ~ 2.1V

My Ballistix DDR2-800 CL4 (SPD listed 2.2V) died last month , RMAed and the new pair (with 2.0V listed at SPD ) doesn't like anything higher than DDR2-1100:shrug:
12-25-2008, 02:00 AM
imamage

Sorry to ask , I would like to push my NB speed higher ( currently only works 2GHz )
Should I push the NB Voltage to 1.3V or I should change other options in BIOS to get it work

Thank you
12-25-2008, 02:45 AM
Chicken Patty

Quote:

Originally Posted by imamage

Sorry to ask , I would like to push my NB speed higher ( currently only works 2GHz )
Should I push the NB Voltage to 1.3V or I should change other options in BIOS to get it work

Thank you

hi there, I was able to run a NB of 2400 Mhz with the voltage on auto. Manually I had it as low as 1.16v.
12-25-2008, 03:06 AM
VoodooProphetII

Quote:

Originally Posted by imamage

I used to run 4x 1GB D9GMH RAM (Crucial Ballistix & Team Xtreme Mixed) on the board , it "NEVER" boot well when I set DDR2-1066 mode @ BIOS
But the four stick setup works fine with @ DDR2-800 2.0V ~ 2.1V

My Ballistix DDR2-800 CL4 (SPD listed 2.2V) died last month , RMAed and the new pair (with 2.0V listed at SPD ) doesn't like anything higher than DDR2-1100:shrug:

Thanks imamage. I am however running the memory at 800mhz, but still the same problems.
12-25-2008, 03:11 AM
imamage

Quote:

Originally Posted by VoodooProphetII

Thanks imamage. I am however running the memory at 800mhz, but still the same problems.

That's odd , which BIOS version you are using ??
DDR2-800 at ganged or unganged mode?
Have you try DDR2-800 CL5-5-5-18 @ 1.8V ?
12-25-2008, 03:13 AM
imamage

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chicken Patty

hi there, I was able to run a NB of 2400 Mhz with the voltage on auto. Manually I had it as low as 1.16v.

Ok I will give it a try at "Auto"
Thanks :up:
12-25-2008, 03:14 AM
VoodooProphetII

No, I've tried ganged and unganged at 800Mhz 4 4 4 12 T2 timings and 2.2Vdimm...

602 bios rev.
12-25-2008, 03:46 AM
N19h7m4r3

Anyone know any good passive Mosfet coolers for this mobo?

I've been looking around and neither the Enzotech or Thermalright ones fit :(

I also don't want to water cool them as it means setting up a second loop :/
12-25-2008, 04:08 AM
imamage

Quote:

Originally Posted by VoodooProphetII

No, I've tried ganged and unganged at 800Mhz 4 4 4 12 T2 timings and 2.2Vdimm...

602 bios rev.

That's odd :confused::confused:
How about only 2x 1GB ?
12-25-2008, 10:02 AM
Chicken Patty

Quote:

Originally Posted by N19h7m4r3

Anyone know any good passive Mosfet coolers for this mobo?

I've been looking around and neither the Enzotech or Thermalright ones fit :(

I also don't want to water cool them as it means setting up a second loop :/

hi there, this thermalright says it fits on the 790FX, check it out:

I had my previous motherboard fully watercooled with Koolance parts. When I had to order the heat transfer plate for the Vreg/mosfet water block, I ordered the one that was 107.5mm long. I however had to grind it down on one end slightly to have it fit, but the smaller one before that is 76mm which was too small so I had no choice. However I notice that the cooler I linked you too the longest one is 70mm, so I dont know what to tell you, it says its compatible with the ASUS 790FX

http://www.performance-pcs.com/catal...ducts_id=21654
12-25-2008, 01:13 PM
N19h7m4r3

If you follow the link from performance pcs to the thermalright one.

It only has two 790FX boards listed and thats only for the Northbridge, it shows the mosfets are non compatible.

I'm just worried I just spend 180 euro just to have Asus release a new motherboard the same time as PH2 launches :(
12-25-2008, 01:22 PM
Chicken Patty

Quote:

Originally Posted by N19h7m4r3

If you follow the link from performance pcs to the thermalright one.

It only has two 790FX boards listed and thats only for the Northbridge, it shows the mosfets are non compatible.

I'm just worried I just spend 180 euro just to have Asus release a new motherboard the same time as PH2 launches :(

I just wouldn't worry about it for now, dont wanna spend the money on something that does not fit.
12-26-2008, 07:42 AM
oc_junkY

i REALLY hope that they don't release a new board but keep working on the bios for this board. i think physically this board is good enough for the upcoming phenom 2s.
12-26-2008, 08:05 AM
charged3800z24

Did everyone have a good Christmas?

Man I had a busy past 2 days. Any who, I was playing with my news toys and look at this screen shot...anyone guess......:p:

http://3800z24.info/Phenom/9950/AOD.JPG
12-26-2008, 08:49 AM
demonkevy666

Quote:

Originally Posted by charged3800z24

Man I had a busy past 2 days. Any who, I was playing with my news toys and look at this screen shot...anyone guess......:p:

how the hell did you get one ?
12-26-2008, 08:55 AM
imamage

Nice RAM you got there
DDR2-1356 :clap::clap::up:
12-26-2008, 08:59 AM
msimax

nice:up: what cooling did you use?
12-26-2008, 09:18 AM
Daveburt714

Nice Charged!! 3Ghz NB speed... :eek:

Is that stable and can you post some benchies?

Gratz on being the first regular user man.
12-26-2008, 09:55 AM
N19h7m4r3

That looks amazing!

See if you can run some benchies and don't forget Prime and Orthos.

I want to see if that baby is stable for very long period :D

You're probably water cooling also?
12-26-2008, 09:56 AM
imamage

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Originally Posted by Chicken Patty

hi there, I was able to run a NB of 2400 Mhz with the voltage on auto. Manually I had it as low as 1.16v.

Thank you Chicken Patty
Here is my first try to push the NB a little :welcome:
12-26-2008, 10:16 AM
charged3800z24

EDIT:

Quote:

Originally Posted by demonkevy666

how the hell did you get one ?

My work is just special I guess :p:,It isn't mine persay ...Our president got it and won't tell me how. I am just testing it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by imamage

Nice RAM you got there
DDR2-1356 :clap::clap::up:

Well it was..OCZ Reeper HPC 1066 ram.. I think I just killed it....

Quote:

Originally Posted by msimax

nice:up: what cooling did you use?

I am using water, in my syg and in my avatar

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daveburt714

Nice Charged!! 3Ghz NB speed... :eek:

Gratz on being the first regular user man.

Not stable apperantly, I went to open CPU-z to get a verify and the system shutdown. LOL , now it won't boot. or POST...so much for fun....I am testing hardware to find what all died...I think it was my ram... I thought I actually had it set to a 1:2 divider, but when I open AOD once I got into windows.. I was like WOW wicked....I have to go out of town for about 2 weeks for a work "crapp" thing...I have to leave shortly and hope to get this back up. I am at our office right now.
12-26-2008, 10:32 AM
imamage

Quote:

Originally Posted by charged3800z24

EDIT:

My work is just special I guess :p:,It isn't mine persay ...Our president got it and won't tell me how. I am just testing it.

Well it was..OCZ Reeper HPC 1066 ram.. I think I just killed it....

I am using water, in my syg and in my avatar

Not stable apperantly, I went to open CPU-z to get a verify and the system shutdown. LOL , now it won't boot. or POST...so much for fun....I am testing hardware to find what all died...I think it was my ram... I thought I actually had it set to a 1:2 divider, but when I open AOD once I got into windows.. I was like WOW wicked....I have to go out of town for about 2 weeks for a work "crapp" thing...I have to leave shortly and hope to get this back up. I am at our office right now.

Ouch that sucks :(
Did you add too much voltage to your RAM ? :confused:
12-26-2008, 10:46 AM
charged3800z24

AOD had 2.4v..and the ram is actually working in another PC and gouing through MEMTEST 86...I put in my 9950 and the system and it will not boot. I tried another PSU etc...I don't have another AMD system here at the office to verify the chip is still ok.. I think it is..but can't confirm since the board obviuosly is not. I should have brought in my Gigabyte system in too...I was just to excited to get over here to see it for myself...I have some pics..and was going to load them up, but the presidnet and the owner said i am not allowed...I was like.WHAT?..He said I have to wait till Jan..HAHHAHA..he is nuts. I will try to get them online when I get away from them guys. well I have 15mins then we have to go.
12-26-2008, 10:48 AM
N19h7m4r3

I hope it's not the mobo, would suck if all the M3A79-T Deluxe mobos went boom from a 4GHz over clock :(
12-26-2008, 10:51 AM
Chicken Patty

Quote:

Originally Posted by imamage

Thank you Chicken Patty
Here is my first try to push the NB a little :welcome:

no problem bro. Results looking good so far, keep me posted on your progress.
12-26-2008, 10:53 AM
Chicken Patty

@ charged3800z24

Congrats dude, how do you like it so far?
12-26-2008, 10:59 AM
demonkevy666

Quote:

Originally Posted by N19h7m4r3

I hope it's not the mobo, would suck if all the M3A79-T Deluxe mobos went boom from a 4GHz over clock :(

I hope not also but maybe the high NB did something.
12-26-2008, 11:02 AM
N19h7m4r3

Well the NB and Mosfets on these mobos can run pretty hot, maybe the stock cooler just wasn't up to it for the OC?

I just hope more places start making aftermarket coolers for AMD mobos now.
12-26-2008, 11:19 AM
imamage

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Chicken Patty

no problem bro. Results looking good so far, keep me posted on your progress.

After around 10 minutes SP2004 Orthos the system crashed (BSOD)
It seems the CPU need more voltage (1.3V surely won't do)
Since my rig runs 3GHz rock stable 24/7
I am trying to push the NB speed to 2.4GHz and hopefully reduce the latency :D

Currently running SP2004 Orthos Stress testing again;)
http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=470681
12-26-2008, 12:06 PM
Chicken Patty

Quote:

Originally Posted by imamage

After around 10 minutes SP2004 Orthos the system crashed (BSOD)
It seems the CPU need more voltage (1.3V surely won't do)
Since my rig runs 3GHz rock stable 24/7
I am trying to push the NB speed to 2.4GHz and hopefully reduce the latency :D

Currently running SP2004 Orthos Stress testing again;)
http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=470681

I know your RAM is DDR2 800 but would it run stable if you set it at 1066??

For example, before I got my 1066 tracers, I had some cheap super talent DDR2 800 RAM. I can set it in the BIOS to 1066 @ 2.1v, timings on auto 5-7-7-24. I used to then set the NB multi to x12 (2400 MHz) and leave the FSB at 200MHZ. Just upped the CPU clock with the multi. I used to get much better performance like that, then trying to overclock with the FSB, the only thing I didnt clock was the Hyper Transport, it stayed at 2000 MHz which helped with stability anyways, HT link to me didn't make much of a difference having it higher or not.

Not only did I get better performance, it was alot easier to clock as nothing overclocked only the CPU, and was easier to tell where the instability came from when any. :)
12-26-2008, 12:31 PM
imamage

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chicken Patty

I know your RAM is DDR2 800 but would it run stable if you set it at 1066??

For example, before I got my 1066 tracers, I had some cheap super talent DDR2 800 RAM. I can set it in the BIOS to 1066 @ 2.1v, timings on auto 5-7-7-24. I used to then set the NB multi to x12 (2400 MHz) and leave the FSB at 200MHZ. Just upped the CPU clock with the multi. I used to get much better performance like that, then trying to overclock with the FSB, the only thing I didnt clock was the Hyper Transport, it stayed at 2000 MHz which helped with stability anyways, HT link to me didn't make much of a difference having it higher or not.

Not only did I get better performance, it was alot easier to clock as nothing overclocked only the CPU, and was easier to tell where the instability came from when any. :)

I was running 6GB *( 2GB x2 , 1GB x2 ) and my board REFUSE to boot everytime I set DDR2-1066 in BIOS , that's why I have to overclock the FSB.

My CPU seems having a hard time to get it stable at 3.2GHz , maybe it's too hot or it needs more voltage than 1.4V , maybe I will try push it again later on as I have to work all day til the end of the year :shrug:

Thanks for the hint BTW :welcome:
12-26-2008, 12:47 PM
Chicken Patty

Quote:

Originally Posted by imamage

I was running 6GB *( 2GB x2 , 1GB x2 ) and my board REFUSE to boot everytime I set DDR2-1066 in BIOS , that's why I have to overclock the FSB.

My CPU seems having a hard time to get it stable at 3.2GHz , maybe it's too hot or it needs more voltage than 1.4V , maybe I will try push it again later on as I have to work all day til the end of the year :shrug:

Thanks for the hint BTW :welcome:

anytime.

u might just need more vcore my 9950 needed 1.420v for stability at 3.2 Ghz. 1.55v for 3.3 GHz and 1.63v for 3.4 GHz, benchable only a couple of time.
12-27-2008, 11:11 PM
supercoolin

Love this motherboard

It seems that this mobo likes the stock timimgs better than when you tweak them. Set everything to stock and just set the multiplier X19 and broke 5000 cpu marks in 3DMark06.

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=9403646

Seems to be the new high Phenom/Vista score
12-27-2008, 11:14 PM
demonkevy666

Quote:

Originally Posted by supercoolin

It seems that this mobo likes the stock timimgs better than when you tweak them. Set everything to stock and just set the multiplier X19 and broke 5000 cpu marks in 3DMark06.

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=9403646

Seems to be the new high Phenom/Vista score

is that 32 bit or 64 bit ?
12-28-2008, 06:37 AM
Macadamia

http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=467970

We've all seen this, but nobody noticed the M4A79 Deluxe.

Asus has implied before that its AM3 products were all M4A, but aren't AM3 mobos supposed to use DDR3 only? (See Geil DDR2)

This is very hard to explain, but either way in the end we should be seeing more AM3 boards from major partners soon, regardless. :)
12-28-2008, 11:34 AM
charged3800z24

I am on my HP Centrino work laptop LOL...when I get back I will try to get the chip in the gigabyte board. My asus is not working and before I left i took a look at the fets. Nothing looks bad or smells funny. I was thinking AOD was messed up, cause I had the ram set at 1:2 divider. It should not have been that high...but maybe it was right and the board had a fit. I just hope the voltage was set right...may be I messed up something. I feel like a big noob.

Oh, if anyone wants my 9950 125w, it is for sell...I get to keep this new chip. My wife said the 7750 BE came in so I will play with it when I get back too.

At least this laptop has a HD2600 in it.. I can still game a little bit. I miss my PCs at home tho..lol
12-28-2008, 11:44 AM
leoy

Nice charged!!!
I believe a nb close to 3ghz will have killing performance....:D
12-28-2008, 11:46 AM
jonspd

I really want this board but cant see spending 200 bux 2-4 months before the am3 stuff gets here...

anyone ran this and a msi plat on a pII?
12-28-2008, 03:23 PM
N19h7m4r3

I swear I will beat someone with a TFC rad if an M4A79 Deluxe comes out within a month....
12-28-2008, 03:29 PM
jonspd

maybe not a month but you better get ready to start swinging :D
12-28-2008, 03:31 PM
chew*

I got a nice DI tube that might get your point across better and would require less swings :horse::D I'm on the fence about getting this board, one thing I have not noticed is any high clocks under DI with phenom 2, other thing is onboard would be nice ( would like to knock out a record with the onboard under DI ), last but not least I see the manufacuturer's starting to re release models as we get closer to launch.
12-28-2008, 03:35 PM
N19h7m4r3

I finally decide to upgrade from my K8V and order a M3A79...now an M4 :(

I haven't even gotten my new mobo to play with yet...stupid post...
12-28-2008, 06:48 PM
Macadamia

Quote:

Originally Posted by N19h7m4r3

I finally decide to upgrade from my K8V and order a M3A79...now an M4 :(

I haven't even gotten my new mobo to play with yet...stupid post...

Since it uses DDR2, it's more likely that only 2 components got tweaked.

1. Power regulation. (M3A79 is good enough to reach 6Ghz, so just cool it with a FET cooler and you'll be okay)

2. BIOS. (Is it now good?)
12-28-2008, 07:13 PM
chew*

Quote:

Originally Posted by Macadamia

Since it uses DDR2, it's more likely that only 2 components got tweaked.

1. Power regulation. (M3A79 is good enough to reach 6Ghz, so just cool it with a FET cooler and you'll be okay)

2. BIOS. (Is it now good?)

Of all the reports coming in of high OC's on DI i have yet to see one on this board.......just because the PWM is large doesn't mean its good. Iplementation is far more important.

Curiosity makes me wonder if intel is so efficient and has a lower TDP why does it need 16+ 2 phase pwm....
12-28-2008, 07:22 PM
demonkevy666

Quote:

Originally Posted by chew*

Of all the reports coming in of high OC's on DI i have yet to see one on this board.......just because the PWM is large doesn't mean its good. Iplementation is far more important.

Curiosity makes me wonder if intel is so efficient and has a lower TDP why does it need 16+ 2 phase pwm....

after reading about most with 5 pwm going pop I and gotvoltage putting 1.650 volts threw this board and his chip. it's definitely not a bad implementation

looks like most 775 boards have 12 I though was weird, but I guess they putt efforts on where all the performance is at (more to them being supply demand bais.)
12-28-2008, 07:27 PM
chew*

Quote:

Originally Posted by demonkevy666

after reading about most with 5 pwm going pop I and gotvoltage putting 1.650 volts threw this board and his chip. it's definitely not a bad implementation

looks like most 775 boards have 12 I though was weird, but I guess they putt efforts on where all the performance is at (more to them being supply demand bais.)

Not to derail but I'd really like to see what it does under alot higher than 1.650, As much as people hate the giga GX board it looks like at least one of its saving graces is/was its 5 phase handling the abuse AMD gave them at those events at 1.88-1.9v while looping crysis.

And even an average board and this is bottom of the barrel for an x38 which is a dated chipset has at least an 8 phase. http://www.asus.com/products.aspx?l1...35&modelmenu=1

Cheapest I7 has at least an 8+2............. http://www.asus.com/products.aspx?l1=3&l2=179

I'd be really curious to see wattage consumption comparisons on platforms with equal PWM stages.......usually larger if implemented correctly are more efficient.
12-29-2008, 07:41 AM
imamage

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http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=472693

Thank you Chicken Patty
3.2GHz Bootable , Boot to OS ok
So far so good

I don't want to go too high on voltage as it's Air cooling setup only ( Ultra 120 eXtreme )
12-29-2008, 12:04 PM
imamage

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Just a little update
3.2GHz @ 1.45V can't pass SP2004 Orthos Stress Test ( 15 min Max and the overheat protection kick in?)
CoreTemp show 67C before the crash / shut down
In the end , suicide run completed for now

I will wait for Phenom II 940 and try hitting 3.4GHz again later.
And finally I can run DDR2-1066 with 2 pairs of RAM (CPU-Z detected 3 GB RAM @ DDR2-1066 Unganged "Dual Channel" mode , weird )
It was partly the wrong BIOS setting , I should keep the RAM setting and gang/unganged setting to "AUTO"

Good birthday present for me , 6GB @ DDR2-1066:D
12-29-2008, 01:30 PM
crazydiamond

are you on 32 bit os?
12-29-2008, 01:36 PM
faior

Quote:

Originally Posted by imamage

Just a little update
3.2GHz @ 1.45V can't pass SP2004 Orthos Stress Test ( 15 min Max and the overheat protection kick in?)
CoreTemp show 67C before the crash / shut down
In the end , suicide run completed for now

I will wait for Phenom II 940 and try hitting 3.4GHz again later.
And finally I can run DDR2-1066 with 2 pairs of RAM (CPU-Z detected 3 GB RAM @ DDR2-1066 Unganged "Dual Channel" mode , weird )
It was partly the wrong BIOS setting , I should keep the RAM setting and gang/unganged setting to "AUTO"

Good birthday present for me , 6GB @ DDR2-1066:D

Do you have the same thing as I do when I OC too much..? Mine just reboots under load when I OC this baby just by a little more than 3.1GHz(which is 110% stable 1.4Vcore) .. I did try smth like 1.55vcore and 3.2GHz and still it reboots :( Bad CPU i think.. or maybe Ill try to clock it in vista too to see if it helps.

edit. What the hell? Now im in vista with 3.25GHz@1.45Vcore and running stabilitytest now at 10mins and no problems at all? "5"#%"#¤€! windows XP oh crap all that testing .. It has to have something to do with my old old windows xp installation which I had my previous system(asus a8nslipremium&165opteron) .. damn. this really opens some new windows to my cpu! ;) hope. I mean I havent never got this thing to run stabilitytest even at 3.125GHz .. now 3.25 and no problems.

edit2. now 3.25GHz@1.4Vcore and 52C at load.. still it seems to be stable.
12-29-2008, 03:02 PM
Chicken Patty

Quote:

Originally Posted by imamage

http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=472693

Thank you Chicken Patty
3.2GHz Bootable , Boot to OS ok
So far so good

I don't want to go too high on voltage as it's Air cooling setup only ( Ultra 120 eXtreme )

no problem bro, anytime :). Just keep an eye on your temps bro.
12-30-2008, 12:14 AM
imamage

Quote:

Originally Posted by crazydiamond

are you on 32 bit os?

Yes , it's 32bit Windows XP SP3
I don't have 64bit OS installed with my rig , so 6GB is kinda pointless :shrug:
12-30-2008, 12:17 AM
imamage

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chicken Patty

no problem bro, anytime :). Just keep an eye on your temps bro.

1.45V 3.2GHz should be ok ( SP2004 Orthos did run for 15 min )
Well , the temp is too high, CoreTemp shows 67C
and the system auto- shut down / BSOD after reach 68C

For the mean time I will stick with 3GHz as my rig cooling system isn't good enough to keep it < 70C :shrug:
12-30-2008, 12:19 AM
imamage

Quote:

Originally Posted by faior

Do you have the same thing as I do when I OC too much..? Mine just reboots under load when I OC this baby just by a little more than 3.1GHz(which is 110% stable 1.4Vcore) .. I did try smth like 1.55vcore and 3.2GHz and still it reboots :( Bad CPU i think.. or maybe Ill try to clock it in vista too to see if it helps.

edit. What the hell? Now im in vista with 3.25GHz@1.45Vcore and running stabilitytest now at 10mins and no problems at all? "5"#%"#¤€! windows XP oh crap all that testing .. It has to have something to do with my old old windows xp installation which I had my previous system(asus a8nslipremium&165opteron) .. damn. this really opens some new windows to my cpu! ;) hope. I mean I havent never got this thing to run stabilitytest even at 3.125GHz .. now 3.25 and no problems.

edit2. now 3.25GHz@1.4Vcore and 52C at load.. still it seems to be stable.

Well I will give it a try with my Vista SP1 setup later
12-30-2008, 05:22 AM
Chicken Patty

Quote:

Originally Posted by imamage

1.45V 3.2GHz should be ok ( SP2004 Orthos did run for 15 min )
Well , the temp is too high, CoreTemp shows 67C
and the system auto- shut down / BSOD after reach 68C

For the mean time I will stick with 3GHz as my rig cooling system isn't good enough to keep it < 70C :shrug:

you are better off dude, but let me ask you, can you disabled that auto shut down, or maybe not disable it, but set it higher? Your rig is never going to get as high as it does with Prime, thats why I dont run Prime. I run 3dmark 06 looped, or a 1024M wprime benchmark over and over. but prime is just nuts, i'm not trying to mess anything up!
01-01-2009, 01:47 PM
charged3800z24

I was able to stop by the office today and copy a screen shot off my hard drive. I was gonna get one of the OC in CPU-z but the system took a poop. I should have my board back this week hopefully. I did not get any benchmarks ran, as I only had the system up for like 2 mins:(

http://3800z24.info/Phenom/Deneb/deneb.JPG
01-01-2009, 04:53 PM
charged3800z24

Quote:

Originally Posted by chew*

Of all the reports coming in of high OC's on DI i have yet to see one on this board.......just because the PWM is large doesn't mean its good. Iplementation is far more important.

Curiosity makes me wonder if intel is so efficient and has a lower TDP why does it need 16+ 2 phase pwm....

Something is up..cause mine took a poop....
01-01-2009, 05:44 PM
Titan7171

what bios you guys using on this mobo, I got mine 2 days ago.....pretty good mobo Im pretty much getting the same oc's I got with my DKA790GX though If theres anyone who knows any settings I should be aware of on this mobo that effects ocing let me know as I see many added options in the bios I didnt have with the MSI.
01-01-2009, 05:55 PM
demonkevy666

Quote:

Originally Posted by charged3800z24

Something is up..cause mine took a poop....

how many amps dose you power supply put on the 3.3 votls and 5 volts this 1200 watt I got puts 40 amps on both lol
01-01-2009, 07:46 PM
charged3800z24

Quote:

Originally Posted by demonkevy666

how many amps dose you power supply put on the 3.3 votls and 5 volts this 1200 watt I got puts 40 amps on both lol

I got a gift from work, just picked it up today....it is a TX750W Corsair. 30amp on the 3.3, 28amp on the 5v, and 60amp on the 12v Single rail. it is a nice 750w PSU.

I think my board was just a fluke...And I think AOD is messed up. I had ram divider 1:2 and it was 400mhz in bios. AOD said something completely dumb. Also the NB was like off too. I just put the chip in the gigabyte. If I get some time, I am going to do some 3ghz comparisons to my 9950.
01-01-2009, 07:52 PM
charged3800z24

Quote:

Originally Posted by Titan7171

what bios you guys using on this mobo, I got mine 2 days ago.....pretty good mobo Im pretty much getting the same oc's I got with my DKA790GX though If theres anyone who knows any settings I should be aware of on this mobo that effects ocing let me know as I see many added options in the bios I didnt have with the MSI.

Well, there are a few things. Auto express is on, you can turn CPU Tweak off. and you have to type voltage in manually. There are few other things.. If I get a sec(what is free time? anyone know?_) LOL.. I will get you my info I was using on my 9950. Or someone else will most likely post before me.
01-02-2009, 07:51 AM
merkk1

Grats on the new power supply charged3800z24 i know you been in need of a new one for some time now.:up:
01-02-2009, 08:18 AM
HondaGuy

Yea its about time you picked one up ,,lol
01-02-2009, 08:33 AM
chew*

I doubt your psu was the cause charged. I was running the sig equipment off a 500w seasonic for a year. total 12v amps is 33.........
01-02-2009, 08:36 AM
N19h7m4r3

Could have been, I had a great PSU ran grand for over a year, then boom! Blew my mobo CPU and GPU. Oh and itself :(

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