Building a Sossaman rig?

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03-05-2009, 10:56 PM
Sparky

Soo.... what good is 16GB of RAM if you only have 32 bit?
03-05-2009, 10:58 PM
D_A

Makes for a bigger e-p33n.
03-05-2009, 11:04 PM
Movieman

Quote:

Originally Posted by SparkyJJO

Soo.... what good is 16GB of RAM if you only have 32 bit?

with the right OS you can use it..

Quote:

Originally Posted by D_A

Makes for a bigger e-p33n.

yes, it does..looks down..I only have two gig..:shakes:
03-05-2009, 11:47 PM
D_A

Quote:

Originally Posted by Movieman

with the right OS you can use it..

yes, it does..looks down..I only have two gig..:shakes:

It's not the size, son, it's how you use it. :rolleyes:
03-06-2009, 01:18 AM
Martijn

Quote:

Originally Posted by Movieman

with the right OS you can use it..

yes, it does..looks down..I only have two gig..:shakes:

1GB in mine :rolleyes:

Running Vista Ultimate, it's uptime is nearly 5 months if you take 2 reboots out of account. I never knew it was that good with low amounts of RAM :p:

IIRC, Server 2k3 and Server 2k8 can both utilize very high amounts of RAM on x86-based systems.
03-06-2009, 02:13 AM
s0lid

Quote:

Originally Posted by Movieman

I have a total of 5 boards here..
One running system
one the board I modded last night and 3 new ones in a box upstairs..

Send one board here and we'll make TurboPLL into it, success rate is almoust 100% with that mod :yepp:
03-06-2009, 02:23 AM
s0lid

Quote:

Originally Posted by Movieman

One thing to always remember is that cpu prices drop like bricks EXCEPT the top one of each platform and that is why there are people asking huge money for a 3 year old cpu such as this.
Now the other side is that when I first started dealing in cpu's in mid 2004 these sold for $2500.00 each on ebay:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Intel-Xeon-3-0GH...1%7C240%3A1318

Oh darn it old man now i started to look for Quad socket 603 board and well those chips are cheaps as nothing, which is good thing :rofl:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Martijn

1GB in mine :rolleyes:

Running Vista Ultimate, it's uptime is nearly 5 months if you take 2 reboots out of account. I never knew it was that good with low amounts of RAM :p:

IIRC, Server 2k3 and Server 2k8 can both utilize very high amounts of RAM on x86-based systems.

Well here's some data about which 32bit os's can utilize more than 4GB of ram :)
http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/system...AE/PAEdrv.mspx
03-06-2009, 02:53 AM
jcool

Quote:

Originally Posted by gongo

PAE - Physical Address Extension
It allows us to use a 36-bit memory access, 32-bits per process and 4-bits for paging. It means that we can technically get up to 64GB on a 32-bit platform!

It's available for free with Linux but you need Windows Server Datacenter Edition to take advantage of it in Windows. Technically Windows XP uses it to read the NX bit for DEP, but doesn't actively page anything out past 4GB - MMIO.

The 32-bit 4GB limitation is only per process, so it's not too bad. You could run a couple VMs, a database, and web server process and still have enough memory for everything.

I think the old Socket 8 Pentium Pro was the first to implement it.

I see.. I only know PAE from Asus mobos, helps you utilize a little bit more of your 4GB of Ram in good old XP 32 ;)

Still, I'll leave my Sammy running with 2x1GB. It's more than it needs anyway, 1GB was fine too, I just wanted dual channel on principle :D

Anything that wants or needs a lot of ram runs on the harpers o the i7 anyway, like hd video encoding and stuff (4GB per process wouldnt be enough here anyways without the program splitting it up more intelligently than it currently does...)
03-06-2009, 04:47 AM
CaptMorgan

so to utilize the right amount of memory-what is the most ideal OS
03-06-2009, 04:52 AM
Martijn

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaptMorgan

so to utilize the right amount of memory-what is the most ideal OS

I'd go with either Server 2k3 or Server 2k8. 2k3 is a lot like XP, 2k8 is based on Vista.
03-06-2009, 04:57 AM
chew*

Quote:

Originally Posted by Movieman

with the right OS you can use it..

yes, it does..looks down..I only have two gig..:shakes:

Um dave buddie thats not your e peen :ROTF: Look in the mirror :D
03-06-2009, 10:01 AM
CaptMorgan

Quote:

Originally Posted by gongo

I'm running Debian Lenny using the "bigmem" kernel.
Remember, the OS can use memory for buffering reads/writes as well, so it also makes sense for file servers.

Thanks, have a done a bit of reading now and looks like a good option for me to consider.
This is gonna be fun:)
03-06-2009, 06:25 PM
Movieman

Tried taking that ground wire to the back of the board to ground on the 8 pin.. Same..:(
03-06-2009, 09:09 PM
Movieman

Took wire to back of board and tied it into the 3.3v line and it booted and is running but at stock 2000mhz..
I tried?:shrug:
03-06-2009, 09:23 PM
D_A

Well at least you still have a working board.
03-06-2009, 09:28 PM
Movieman

Quote:

Originally Posted by D_A

Well at least you still have a working board.

Yea, but I'd gladly kill it to make this work!:D
03-06-2009, 09:48 PM
D_A

Oddly enough ... if you kill it, it may not work.
03-06-2009, 09:53 PM
Sparky

Quote:

Originally Posted by Movieman

Yea, but I'd gladly kill it to make this work!:D

Quote:

Originally Posted by D_A

Oddly enough ... if you kill it, it may not work.

:rofl: :nuts:
03-07-2009, 06:46 AM
Movieman

Quote:

Originally Posted by D_A

Oddly enough ... if you kill it, it may not work.

Oh be quiet you!:p:

Quote:

Originally Posted by SparkyJJO

:rofl: :nuts:

You too or we'll stick you back to registered n00b:ROTF:
03-07-2009, 06:50 AM
Movieman

Quote:

Originally Posted by gongo

really? hahaha.

Keep laughing and when we meet..don't look at your board too close.. It may have wires on it..:rofl:
03-08-2009, 09:49 AM
Sparky

Quote:

Originally Posted by Movieman

Oh be quiet you!:p:

You too or we'll stick you back to registered n00b:ROTF:

:p: :sofa:
03-08-2009, 11:59 AM
Movieman

Quote:

Originally Posted by gongo

:ROTF:

So I said my last goodbyes to Sammy1 yesterday as I have shipped her off to see my brother at law school. Hope she makes the 2000-mile journey okay...

For now I'm down to just my Thinkpad until I get Sammy2 up and running.

We'll fix that problem Wednesday..;)
new board and HS..$50.00.. My cost on them.:D
03-08-2009, 03:06 PM
Movieman

Quote:

Originally Posted by gongo

Sammy1 probably won't see 24/7 uptime again, so I didn't set it up with WCG... oh well, I'll have Sammy2 up soon enough though, it'll be good to get crunching again.

You'll laugh but all the time I spent playing with that mod bugged me that the machine was down..
It's not that it does a ton of work but just that it was down..
03-08-2009, 04:06 PM
Sparky

Quote:

Originally Posted by Movieman

You'll laugh but all the time I spent playing with that mod bugged me that the machine was down..
It's not that it does a ton of work but just that it was down..

Heh it bugs me when even my old Athlon XP goes down :eek: :shakes:
03-08-2009, 09:29 PM
Movieman

Quote:

Originally Posted by SparkyJJO

Heh it bugs me when even my old Athlon XP goes down :eek: :shakes:

Time to put my energies into something that will hopefully pay off.
A way of OC'ing a dual socket 1366 board..:D
Night folks.. I need sleep.
03-09-2009, 04:36 PM
Lu523

http://cgi.ebay.com/Xeon-Low-Voltage...3A1%7C294%3A50

A bit high I think. But may be my only chance to get some.
03-09-2009, 05:04 PM
Movieman

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lu523

http://cgi.ebay.com/Xeon-Low-Voltage...3A1%7C294%3A50

A bit high I think. But may be my only chance to get some.

I'd wait or you can always offer him a $100.00 for the pair..
03-09-2009, 05:46 PM
Movieman

Quote:

Originally Posted by gongo

Definitely too high... and it's not your only chance, niconoise has more, he usually waits for doctorxeon to end his item before re-listing. If they're not the same seller, they are at least mindful of each other's listings.

If I were you, I'd message him or nico and see if they'll sell you a pair for $100 +ship. I'm sure they'll gladly skip the ebay fees to make a good sale. From what I hear, ebay charges a lot per listing and the sellers would rather have the extra $$$.

I messaged nico last week and he said he had no more..
03-09-2009, 06:25 PM
CaptMorgan

Quote:

Originally Posted by gongo

Definitely too high... and it's not your only chance, niconoise has more, he usually waits for doctorxeon to end his item before re-listing. If they're not the same seller, they are at least mindful of each other's listings.

If I were you, I'd message him or nico and see if they'll sell you a pair for $100 +ship. I'm sure they'll gladly skip the ebay fees to make a good sale. From what I hear, ebay charges a lot per listing and the sellers would rather have the extra $$$.

This is the guy I bought 2 from sunday morning in an auction-got them for a little under 55. Now he has 6 more but he is selling for over 70?
03-09-2009, 06:37 PM
tool_462

Couldn't get ahold of any 478 LV chips, though 771 LV chips are easy to find and very cheap. Not sure how they compare in terms of consumption, but I think the TDP is 25w.
03-09-2009, 07:51 PM
Movieman

Quote:

Originally Posted by tool_462

Couldn't get ahold of any 478 LV chips, though 771 LV chips are easy to find and very cheap. Not sure how they compare in terms of consumption, but I think the TDP is 25w.

45-50w for the harpertown LV's from what I remember
03-09-2009, 08:02 PM
CaptMorgan

Supply and Demand-I guess. But from what I remember the main "idea" for this chip is the greater good, this is the World Community Grid area right?
03-09-2009, 08:11 PM
Movieman

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaptMorgan

Supply and Demand-I guess. But from what I remember the main "idea" for this chip is the greater good, this is the World Community Grid area right?

yes, and keeping the cost down, and low elec and low heat..
Now I could go and buy a $450.00 SM motherboard, 2-L5420's and 4x1 gig of DDR2-800FBDimms and it would be a low heat system but not low cost or low elec..
03-10-2009, 04:04 AM
jcool

Just a ballpark, but the X7DCA-L with 12GB (!) of Reg ECC DDR2, a HD4850 and 2 E5420's (C0) draws below 180W crunching - imagine some E0 L5420's, a PCI GFX, 2 sticks of ram instead of 6 and less/no HDDs and you'd be looking at a VERY low power cruncher, maybe 140-150W loaded. Kicks out around 22-23k/d too so energy efficiency is actually better than a Sossaman. But the parts usually aren't cheap... Unless you can grab mobo and CPUs used for cheap.
03-10-2009, 05:22 AM
s0lid

Quote:

Originally Posted by jcool

Just a ballpark, but the X7DCA-L with 12GB (!) of Reg ECC DDR2, a HD4850 and 2 E5420's (C0) draws below 180W crunching - imagine some E0 L5420's, a PCI GFX, 2 sticks of ram instead of 6 and less/no HDDs and you'd be looking at a VERY low power cruncher, maybe 140-150W loaded. Kicks out around 22-23k/d too so energy efficiency is actually better than a Sossaman. But the parts usually aren't cheap... Unless you can grab mobo and CPUs used for cheap.

I'd say it could be around 120W, not much more.
03-10-2009, 06:59 AM
DanTheBanjoman

Quote:

Originally Posted by jcool

Just a ballpark, but the X7DCA-L with 12GB (!) of Reg ECC DDR2, a HD4850 and 2 E5420's (C0) draws below 180W crunching - imagine some E0 L5420's, a PCI GFX, 2 sticks of ram instead of 6 and less/no HDDs and you'd be looking at a VERY low power cruncher, maybe 140-150W loaded. Kicks out around 22-23k/d too so energy efficiency is actually better than a Sossaman. But the parts usually aren't cheap... Unless you can grab mobo and CPUs used for cheap.

Though it lacks the exclusivity. Having a Sossaman just is interesting, it's a platform many people haven't even heard of. And since you can come across them quite cheap and they are far from obsolete it's a better choice for many enthusiasts. For instance, I paid €40 for my X6DLP, €25 for 2x2GB and another €15 for 2x512MB and like €80 for the CPU's. The rest of the parts are just junk I found around the house. Low budget and fun system.

In fact, it currently serves as my main server, replaced a S5370+5110's. It's a very capable system. Do want a smaller case though, something minimalistic as I only have a boot drive in it. (storage is external)

Long story short, Sossaman is a better toy :)
03-10-2009, 12:13 PM
Movieman

If I didn't have all these crunchers and was a "normal" PC enthusiast I'd have a quad for daily usage and a Sammy for file server/HTPC and would need nothing else.
03-10-2009, 01:35 PM
alucasa

Is this a good deal ?

http://cgi.ebay.com/Xeon-Low-Voltage...3%3A1|294%3A50
03-10-2009, 04:36 PM
Lu523

I am tempted to go ahead and pick up a pair of those cpus. I could use a file server and a place to store backups. It would alos be put to use crunching of course. Going to give another day or so before I make the call.
03-10-2009, 09:09 PM
alucasa

Meh, 77 for one is too high. For a pair, yes, but for per cpu.
03-10-2009, 09:11 PM
Movieman

Quote:

Originally Posted by gongo

As I understand it, it's the only deal in town at the moment. If nico is out, then docxeon must have bought them up from him. I don't know that you'll be able to talk him down too far, but it's always worth a shot.

EDIT: Does anyone know where I can get the IO shield for the Intel board?

I have looked and looked for one but no luck..
nico said he had found some but that was the last I heard.
03-10-2009, 11:31 PM
CaptMorgan

that guy went up 4 bucks a chip; IDK it is so tempting to snatch every SL9HN/2000 up that comes along but I feel that might be over the acceptable limit.
03-11-2009, 03:39 AM
jcool

Quote:

Originally Posted by DanTheBanjoman

Though it lacks the exclusivity. Having a Sossaman just is interesting, it's a platform many people haven't even heard of. And since you can come across them quite cheap and they are far from obsolete it's a better choice for many enthusiasts. For instance, I paid €40 for my X6DLP, €25 for 2x2GB and another €15 for 2x512MB and like €80 for the CPU's. The rest of the parts are just junk I found around the house. Low budget and fun system.

In fact, it currently serves as my main server, replaced a S5370+5110's. It's a very capable system. Do want a smaller case though, something minimalistic as I only have a boot drive in it. (storage is external)

Long story short, Sossaman is a better toy :)

So you are saying what I got here ain't exlusive enough? :shrug:

http://database.he-computer.de/Bilde...per/X7DCA1.jpg

http://database.he-computer.de/Bilde...per/X7DCA2.jpg

http://database.he-computer.de/Bilde...per/X7DCA3.jpg

I beg to differ - Dual socket, Octacore, 12GB Ram on a µATX board in a µATX case (LianLi V350) definitely ain't standard :rofl:
03-11-2009, 06:45 AM
WesM63

Quote:

Originally Posted by jcool

So you are saying what I got here ain't exlusive enough? :shrug:

I beg to differ - Dual socket, Octacore, 12GB Ram on a µATX board in a µATX case (LianLi V350) definitely ain't standard :rofl:

Woah.. that's what I was planning on doing. What HSF's are those?
03-11-2009, 07:17 AM
s0lid

Quote:

Originally Posted by jcool

So you are saying what I got here ain't exlusive enough? :shrug:

http://database.he-computer.de/Bilde...per/X7DCA1.jpg

I beg to differ - Dual socket, Octacore, 12GB Ram on a µATX board in a µATX case (LianLi V350) definitely ain't standard :rofl:

Soo shinyyy :cool:
03-11-2009, 10:30 AM
s0lid

Quote:

Originally Posted by gongo

Is that the X7DCA-L?

Arr, It be X7DCA-L, the miniSM :yepp:
03-11-2009, 11:31 AM
jcool

Quote:

Originally Posted by WesM63

Woah.. that's what I was planning on doing. What HSF's are those?

HR-03 3Us.. has been running for around 1 month now.

Other specs:

- SM X7DCA-L mobo, Dual S771, Intel i5100 chipset, µATX ;)
- 2x E5420 C0 Harpertown @ stock :( - tried everything, this mobo ain't gonna OC with FSB333 CPUs, no effing way :mad:
- 6x 2GB Kingston DDR2-667 Reg ECC
- HIS HD4850 IceQ4 512MB
- WD Velociraptor 300GB + WD 1TB RE3 drives
- DVD-Burner + IcyDock HotSwap Frame for 3,5" drives (for backups)

All in a LianLi V350 cube case. I call it "ProCube09", indicating it is aimed at the workstation-market - just that it's ultra-portable and pretty silent too (2x 120mm 1000RPM Yate Loon intake fans, 140mm 1000RPM Yate Loon inbside the PSU, 1500RPM 80mm rear exhaust for HDD cooling, all controlled by a T-Balancer BigNG).

Currently pending review by a German magazine, will try to find some more pics showing the whole thing.

Now, back to topic, as you guys seem to think Sammies are better than this :p: :rofl:
03-12-2009, 03:02 PM
Martijn

I guess I shouldn't rely on Sammy too much... It's darned stable, but apparantly Boinc screwed up two! weeks ago... It didn't communicate with the WCG servers... I have WUs ready to upload that were due the 27th of February :shocked:

Oh well... uploading 60WUs now... I might get half of the credit for them... 532 hours of no work though :(

Installing Boincview as we speak.

EDIT: Sigh, all too late and no credit for any of them... 2 weeks wasted.
03-12-2009, 03:04 PM
Jaco

wouldn't have happened with Boincview ;)
03-13-2009, 12:37 AM
DanTheBanjoman

Quote:

Originally Posted by jcool

So you are saying what I got here ain't exlusive enough? :shrug:

I beg to differ - Dual socket, Octacore, 12GB Ram on a µATX board in a µATX case (LianLi V350) definitely ain't standard :rofl:

Seen those boards on the net yes, they're funny. But to be honest installing Thermalright coolers on my Z7S took away all motivation to toy with them again. It's a hell to install :)
03-13-2009, 11:30 AM
jcool

Yeah the HR-01 X are a biatch to install.. but the 3U's are quite ok, especially since you can mount them outside the case with the X7DCA-L.
03-13-2009, 12:17 PM
Movieman

Quote:

Originally Posted by gongo

So sorry to hear that.

I've got Sammy2 most of the way assembled, but I'm having memory problems after all... :shakes:

The thing is, it's not consistent about which dimm it likes? It always seems to enable dimm 1b, then sometimes it brings 1a online, but disables it on next boot. This is very frustrating, especially since I've shuffled around all the dimms through the first few slots to try it out.

Anyway, time for sleep, maybe tomorrow it'll work? :shrug:

use 2nd and 4th slot from the top when board is in a case
DDR2-400 ECC REG is a must here.
03-13-2009, 04:50 PM
Lu523

I have a bid in on a SE7520BB2 mobo. Now to start finding the other parts.
03-13-2009, 05:30 PM
CaptMorgan

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lu523

I have a bid in on a SE7520BB2 mobo. Now to start finding the other parts.

http://www.centrix-intl.com/details.asp?productid=4675

It's not a bad deal:) that's where I got my 3;)
03-13-2009, 05:35 PM
Movieman

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaptMorgan

http://www.centrix-intl.com/details.asp?productid=4675

It's not a bad deal:) that's where I got my 3;)

That's the place and do NOT buy these if you have or are going to get the Intel board..
These are for the SM and Tyan boards and are totally different:
http://www.censuspc.com/product-pr-5920.html
03-13-2009, 06:08 PM
Bail_w

Quote:

Originally Posted by Movieman

That's the place and do NOT buy these if you have or are going to get the Intel board..
These are for the SM and Tyan boards and are totally different:
http://www.censuspc.com/product-pr-5920.html

if i am going to buy the intel board, where should i purchase the heatsinks?
03-13-2009, 06:52 PM
Anarki

Trust me people, I will crunch 24/7 with a Sossaman rig if you can find me a pair of CPU's!

That is the only thing stopping me from getting a Sossaman rig. I can get the board @ $19 + shipping to the UK, I can get memory/GFX/PSU, etc.

Its those damn CPU's, I swear they are like gold dust!
03-13-2009, 10:13 PM
Movieman

Quote:

Originally Posted by gongo

This board is EXTREMELY picky about which dimms it likes... it only takes 1 matched pair of 2x 2gb, the other matched pairs that have higher or lower batch numbers do not work :(

Being able to only use 4gb out of 16gb is really frustrating, especially since I know these are good chips that were working in Sammy1. Looking at the validated memory list, it seems that a good portion of the 2gb chips tested were dual rank, but you would think that single rank dimms would be more compatible, not less :confused:

I'll probably swap some 1gb chips out of Sammy1 to try, but it'll take time since Sammy1 is in Utah now. blah.

Anyone using single rank 2gb dimms with the Intel board?

yes, VERY picky with memory.. Wes got some DDR2-533 ECC reg to work but I grabbed some and it wouldn't.
Thats why I always tell people to stick with that Kingston DDR2-400 ECC REG fromm the egg for $36.00 for 2 gig..
Not many people are using as much mem as you are.
03-14-2009, 12:11 AM
CaptMorgan

Quote:

Originally Posted by Movieman

yes, VERY picky with memory.. Wes got some DDR2-533 ECC reg to work but I grabbed some and it wouldn't.
Thats why I always tell people to stick with that Kingston DDR2-400 ECC REG fromm the egg for $36.00 for 2 gig..
Not many people are using as much mem as you are.

So in the end what is best for Crunching-the cpu or the amount of memory? I know everything all together helps in the grand scheme of things, but what helps you get the most work units per day?
03-14-2009, 01:09 AM
D_A

So long as you have ENOUGH RAM, it's the CPU that's the bottle-neck. An excess of RAM doesn't make any real difference to crunching times.
03-14-2009, 10:17 AM
Lu523

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anarki

Trust me people, I will crunch 24/7 with a Sossaman rig if you can find me a pair of CPU's!

That is the only thing stopping me from getting a Sossaman rig. I can get the board @ $19 + shipping to the UK, I can get memory/GFX/PSU, etc.

Its those damn CPU's, I swear they are like gold dust!

That is my plan for a sammy rig also.
03-14-2009, 10:35 AM
s0lid

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lu523

That is my plan for a sammy rig also.

Well there is place which sells 1.66ghz sammys with price of 45$
http://www.itxchange.com/itxchange/p...UrlSrc=Website

They have hundreds of them :D
03-14-2009, 11:06 AM
Lu523

Was hopeing for the 2 Ghz sammys. But it looks like these will be a good start. Now to start buying parts.
03-14-2009, 11:11 AM
Bobsama

Anyone find more stuff on eBay. I may just jump on these... considering the price of a system is equal to a single i7 chip, muchless the RAM and board!
03-14-2009, 04:26 PM
Lu523

http://oemxs.us/shopping/index.php?p...arget=products

Would that be the right heatsink for the Intel board? I am getting ready to start ordeing parts.
03-14-2009, 05:11 PM
CaptMorgan

Quote:

Would that be the right heatsink for the Intel board? I am getting ready to start ordeing parts.

Those are the 1's
03-14-2009, 05:14 PM
Movieman

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lu523

http://oemxs.us/shopping/index.php?p...arget=products

Would that be the right heatsink for the Intel board? I am getting ready to start ordeing parts.

Yes, BUT that place is VERY high on what they charge for shipping.. First time I bought there they charged me $25.00 to ship two of them.
I'm going there next week to get 6 for CaptMorgan, if you want some let me know and I'll grab and ship to you..
MUCH cheaper this way..;)
03-14-2009, 06:32 PM
alucasa

Quote:

Originally Posted by s0lid

Well there is place which sells 1.66ghz sammys with price of 45$
http://www.itxchange.com/itxchange/p...UrlSrc=Website

They have hundreds of them :D

Quote:

317 Available to ship from Canada

That's a rare sight. It's usually "from USA".
03-14-2009, 07:05 PM
Movieman

Quote:

Originally Posted by alucasa

That's a rare sight. It's usually "from USA".

Here's your chance!:rofl:
03-14-2009, 10:16 PM
Bail_w

This is the backplate for the intel board right?

http://www.performance-pcs.com/catal...ducts_id=21884
03-15-2009, 06:07 AM
alucasa

Yes.
03-15-2009, 06:26 AM
emuexport

Well after 40 pages I'm still none the wiser on wether Sammys can be overclocked lol

But I do know I want one!:rofl::ROTF::clap::up:
03-15-2009, 06:30 AM
Martijn

Quote:

Originally Posted by emuexport

Well after 40 pages I'm still none the wiser on wether Sammys can be overclocked lol

But I do know I want one!:rofl::ROTF::clap::up:

Theoretically, yes. No one has been able to prove it though :p:
03-15-2009, 06:42 AM
s0lid

Quote:

Originally Posted by Martijn

Theoretically, yes. No one has been able to prove it though :p:

Just send me one damn cpus + mobo package and i'll show you working mod which increases the FSB!
03-15-2009, 09:38 AM
Lu523

Quote:

Originally Posted by Movieman

Yes, BUT that place is VERY high on what they charge for shipping.. First time I bought there they charged me $25.00 to ship two of them.
I'm going there next week to get 6 for CaptMorgan, if you want some let me know and I'll grab and ship to you..
MUCH cheaper this way..;)

Yes do that please. Just let me know what I owe you.
03-15-2009, 01:46 PM
Movieman

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lu523

Yes do that please. Just let me know what I owe you.

No problem, going there this week to get 6 for CaptMorgan,2 for bailW, and 2 for KTE..
03-15-2009, 02:40 PM
Jaco

You should change your title to "sossaman dealer" :ROTF:
03-15-2009, 02:45 PM
Movieman

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jaco

You should change your title to "sossaman heatsink dealer" :ROTF:

Fixed..
yea, but I'm not making any money on it!:rofl:
03-15-2009, 02:49 PM
Jaco

No, you're not. I know.

The Sossaman pusherman would be a better name for you :rofl:
03-15-2009, 02:56 PM
Movieman

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jaco

No, you're not. I know.

The Sossaman pusherman would be a better name for you :rofl:

:bows:
03-15-2009, 03:35 PM
Lu523

I went ahead and ordered the cpus and mobo. Just need to decide on psu and hdd. Will probably run it without a case like my other crunchers.
03-15-2009, 03:42 PM
CaptMorgan

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lu523

I went ahead and ordered the cpus and mobo. Just need to decide on psu and hdd. Will probably run it without a case like my other crunchers.

I am considering that also, where I am going to have, so far, 3 of these setup Crunching exclusively 24 hours. I have a clean relatively dry area in my basement that I was gonna set these up in. How would you go about this? set them on a shelf, or secure all the parts to something; board,psu, and HD?
03-15-2009, 03:47 PM
Movieman

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lu523

I went ahead and ordered the cpus and mobo. Just need to decide on psu and hdd. Will probably run it without a case like my other crunchers.

The Corsair 400w is a good cheap workable option and if on sale can be got for under $30.00

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaptMorgan

I am considering that also, where I am going to have, so far, 3 of these setup Crunching exclusively 24 hours. I have a clean relatively dry area in my basement that I was gonna set these up in. How would you go about this? set them on a shelf, or secure all the parts to something; board,psu, and HD?

Big piece of cardboard will work..just something that won't carry a elec charge..
03-15-2009, 03:49 PM
Lu523

2 of my cruchers are on tech stations. The other is just sitting on a wire shelf.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817371016
Would that psu be good enough, or should I look at something different?
03-15-2009, 04:08 PM
CaptMorgan

This is the PSU I got
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817139008

unfortunately I think it was slightly less when I got it
03-15-2009, 04:37 PM
Bail_w

Try to buy 80 plus supplies, they do help reducing energy.
03-15-2009, 04:58 PM
CaptMorgan

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c3.../random007.jpg

These are the SL98Q's I got from itxchange.com, the 1.67/667. Though to be honest I might wait on these as I got a few of the SL9HN's coming and already have 3 boards, 2 PSU's and a bunch of memory:)
This will show my tech level but- I have seen a CPU not encased. sorry for the not so great pics
03-15-2009, 05:52 PM
Movieman

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaptMorgan

This is the PSU I got
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817139008

unfortunately I think it was slightly less when I got it

yup, grabbed that one myself..
For all: the key is making sure the PSU has 24 pin and 8 pin for motherboard..
Even a 300w should have more than enough ooomph to run this..Quality before size is the rule here.
03-15-2009, 06:21 PM
Lu523

That one is sold out so I went with the 450. Also ordered some ram http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820134272 and a hdd. All the parts needed but heat sinks are ordered. Just need to wait on Dave for those.
Maybe I should get his number and bug him a bit.:poke:
03-15-2009, 08:40 PM
s0lid

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaptMorgan

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c335/jpvalley547/random007.jpg

These are the SL98Q's I got from itxchange.com, the 1.67/667. Though to be honest I might wait on these as I got a few of the SL9HN's coming and already have 3 boards, 2 PSU's and a bunch of memory:)
This will show my tech level but- I have seen a CPU not encased. sorry for the not so great pics

Why it seems than both of those cpus cores are f@cked up?
first ones is split in 2 and second is in 3 pieces :shrug:
03-15-2009, 09:01 PM
D_A

If those lines are actually cracks then I seriously doubt those chips will work ever again. :(
03-15-2009, 09:57 PM
Bail_w

http://www.tradeloop.com/broadcast/?bc=639906

Who want to register and make a offer for that guy? :D
03-15-2009, 10:04 PM
Movieman

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bail_w

http://www.tradeloop.com/broadcast/?bc=639906

Who want to register and make a offer for that guy? :D

But,But they are 1667's..
I want the 2167's..:up:
03-15-2009, 10:07 PM
Bail_w

I thought SL9HN was 2.0ghz?
03-15-2009, 10:23 PM
s0lid

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bail_w

I thought SL9HN was 2.0ghz?

Yea me too :rolleyes:
http://www.cpu-world.com/sspec/SL/SL9HN.html
03-15-2009, 10:25 PM
Movieman

something interesting I came across:
"A planned successor, codenamed "Merom MP" was to be a drop-in upgrade to allow Sossaman-based servers to upgrade to 64-bit capability. However, this was abandoned in favour of low-voltage versions of the Woodcrest LV processor leaving the Sossaman at a dead-end with no planned upgrades."
03-15-2009, 10:27 PM
Movieman

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bail_w

I thought SL9HN was 2.0ghz?

OOPs, looked fast, saw SL98Q and knew they were the 1667's..
OK, so I bid on 125 of the 2000's yes?:rofl:
03-16-2009, 07:19 AM
Martijn

Quote:

Originally Posted by Movieman

OOPs, looked fast, saw SL98Q and knew they were the 1667's..
OK, so I bid on 125 of the 2000's yes?:rofl:

:D:D
03-16-2009, 08:25 AM
CaptMorgan

oMg I went to bed and was not able to point my entirely crappy photography. I didn't know what sOLID and D A were talkin about till I looked again-those lines are the reflections off the cpu's of my ceiling! whoops
03-16-2009, 08:40 AM
Bail_w

Quote:

Originally Posted by Movieman

OOPs, looked fast, saw SL98Q and knew they were the 1667's..
OK, so I bid on 125 of the 2000's yes?:rofl:

liar. :down:

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