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02-01-2008, 02:08 PM
zakelwe

I think we need to stop worrying about temps until people start reporting not being able to get around throttling problems. Has anyone reported throttling problems yet?

Of more concern is the wall that seems to be hit at a certain frequency where an increase in volts will not get you anything more. Both myself and Zeus have hit this at 4600Mhz, has anyone else seen such a thing?

Normally you would expect more volts to give you a bit more but this seems to be a proper wall. This wall seems a lot more substantial than any effects caused by high temps.

Comments appreciated.

Regards

Andy
02-01-2008, 02:11 PM
Jeremy617

as in you can't post past 4600mhz or just can't get into windows?
02-01-2008, 02:50 PM
Zucker2k

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Quote:

Originally Posted by zakelwe

I think we need to stop worrying about temps until people start reporting not being able to get around throttling problems. Has anyone reported throttling problems yet?

Of more concern is the wall that seems to be hit at a certain frequency where an increase in volts will not get you anything more. Both myself and Zeus have hit this at 4600Mhz, has anyone else seen such a thing?

Normally you would expect more volts to give you a bit more but this seems to be a proper wall. This wall seems a lot more substantial than any effects caused by high temps.

Comments appreciated.

Regards

Andy

The buck has to stop somewhere.

What I find intriguing is that some of the chips seem to have a dynamic vid. Below is a picture of P95 running at 4.6Ghz on x38 and the vid. is still 1.1125 underload. So, my question is, is the this (problem?) related to mobos of a particular chipset? Also, the lower your vid, the higher your temps are going to be so it'll seem to me that those reporting dipping vids on load are probably the same people reporting high temps. Please keep an eye out.

Another thing, The latest everest .....270, has a pretty good stability testing systems which slowed down my system to a crawl, but most importantly, has a cpu throttling indicator; it should be good for anyone whose temps. typically reach the high 80s to try and use that, or merely have it open while orthos runs to determine if there's any throttling taking place. I think RMClock has the feature too. Cheers!
02-01-2008, 03:34 PM
Viss

Quote:

Originally Posted by zakelwe

I think we need to stop worrying about temps until people start reporting not being able to get around throttling problems. Has anyone reported throttling problems yet?

Of more concern is the wall that seems to be hit at a certain frequency where an increase in volts will not get you anything more. Both myself and Zeus have hit this at 4600Mhz, has anyone else seen such a thing?

Normally you would expect more volts to give you a bit more but this seems to be a proper wall. This wall seems a lot more substantial than any effects caused by high temps.

Comments appreciated.

Regards

Andy

Simular results except for the wall at 4600. My E8500 does all 3Dmarks at 4510mhz with 1.48v however not over 4560mhz in 1M same volts. Never get an error because of cpu speed spi just shuts down. Goin up to 1.60v gains me about 150mhz for 1M though, max about 4710mhz at those volts.
02-01-2008, 04:10 PM
GLENBOY

same here at 4600 mhz it just stops really did aquamark at 4660 but at 4500 you can do anything don't know whether its a fsb thing on x38 i have e8400 but e8500 was the same
02-01-2008, 04:13 PM
Merc14

You have to say that it is unbelievable that any of us are complaining about hitting a wall at 4600MHz. Just a year and a half ago breaking 3000MHz on an Opty 165 was a huge achievement. Coretemp issues aside, this is one amazing CPU.
02-01-2008, 04:14 PM
GLENBOY

good point mate we are just greedy :D
02-01-2008, 04:14 PM
ThatGuy16

I ordered mine from mwave and a x38-ds4 from the egg. Hopefully it will all be here by wednesday :up:

Now im worried about this temp and degrading thing :(.. maybe i'll just stop a 4ghz and make it prime stable. :p:

Can't wait for my results though
02-01-2008, 05:01 PM
nama

Quote:

Originally Posted by avrionis

I had a e8400 had the same results.. Had great temps! But past 4.2...I would immediately get those errors on core2. I had tried many different voltage combinations but no luck.. Sent it back..

did you get a new one? if so any success?
02-01-2008, 06:11 PM
zakelwe

Quote:

Originally Posted by GLENBOY

same here at 4600 mhz it just stops really did aquamark at 4660 but at 4500 you can do anything don't know whether its a fsb thing on x38 i have e8400 but e8500 was the same

I don't think it is an X38 thing, I have P35.

Like you I can do 3d all night at 4500 but get it up to 4600 and it will not do SuperPI 1M. I know my memory does 600+ and the motherboard 510 but at 484x9.5 onwards it's DEATH VALLEY ! :D

As for the person saying "well 4.5GHz is really good anyway" I totally agree. For the amount I paid for this cpu it knocks my socks off.

However it is very interesting how these new process Wolfdales behave and if we can work out

a) the temp anomalies
b) possible walls at certain Mhz

then we can perhaps bend these cpus more to our whim than we are at present. It's a big learning experience.

I did notice that if I knocked off all the BIOS voltages for FSB and northbridge etc by 0.1v-0.2v that I could still do 484FSB and my cpu temp went down by approx 5C under load. I still hit the wall though.

Regards

Andy
02-01-2008, 06:17 PM
HaTaX

Okay update on where I'm at. I did the vdroop mod as explained by JohnnyBravo using a 1Kohm variable resistor. My VCore now stays within .002-.003 volts of where I set it at idle or load. There is a little flutter there, but it's nothing bad and it is certainly MUCH better then it was before.

This helped get down a little on VCore required to reach certain clocks, but it didn't fix the fact that my E8400 still takes more voltage to reach some of the clocks people here are seeing.

I called over to Microcenter where I got the cpu and mentioned the temp problems with the CPU and the person said they'd be happy to exchange it for me, but right now they didn't have any of them left in stock.

Soo, I'll call over there in a day or so and ask if they've gotten any in, and if so, I think I'll do an exchange!

Is there a table being kept track of anywhere that reports batch numbers and what people have gotten with them?
02-01-2008, 06:38 PM
dinos22

Quote:

Originally Posted by loc.o

Simular results except for the wall at 4600. My E8500 does all 3Dmarks at 4510mhz with 1.48v however not over 4560mhz in 1M same volts. Never get an error because of cpu speed spi just shuts down. Goin up to 1.60v gains me about 150mhz for 1M though, max about 4710mhz at those volts.

yeah my wall is 4700 lol

it's very interesting

obviously with SS it flies way past that
02-01-2008, 07:15 PM
TSFroggy

Same stuff in sig, with the following specifics:
FPO/Batch: Q746A377

http://www.gvice.com/4ghz.jpg

Currently priming for around 40 minutes. Voltage set in BIOS is ~1.36v, after droop CPU-Z says 1.328v. It wouldn't prime for anything around 4050, but this seems to have more luck.

I'll have more voltages for you when I get around to restarting.

Mem is at 5-5-5-18 471MHz 2v. Nothing special... yet.

(Almost didn't find a print screen, till I realized that F14 is print screen on Apple keyboards - I love this thing! :P)
02-01-2008, 09:16 PM
MAXLD

Which cooler are you using?
02-01-2008, 09:26 PM
chrisf6969

Preliminary results after only an hour of playing:
http://images.dr3vil.com//files3/84/e8400-1.jpg

http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=306969

I'll tweak/play some more this weekend and hopefully hit 4Ghz.
02-01-2008, 11:14 PM
Bail_w

@Hazardous - each chip has its own potential, so dont expect the same results everytime even though it is the same batch.
02-01-2008, 11:56 PM
eva2000
Quote:

Originally Posted by zakelwe

I think we need to stop worrying about temps until people start reporting not being able to get around throttling problems. Has anyone reported throttling problems yet?

Of more concern is the wall that seems to be hit at a certain frequency where an increase in volts will not get you anything more. Both myself and Zeus have hit this at 4600Mhz, has anyone else seen such a thing?

Normally you would expect more volts to give you a bit more but this seems to be a proper wall. This wall seems a lot more substantial than any effects caused by high temps.

Comments appreciated.

Regards

Andy

similar my E8500 Q740A493T max out on water around 4653mhz at 1.6v for 3dmark http://i4memory.com/showthread.php?p=83929#post83929 and around 4714mhz for super pi 32m on water.

http://fileshosts.com/intel/Asus/Bli...1098_30327.png

Could be heat related as on 1/4HP SS it does scale higher

32M passed at
- @4851Mhz at 1.584v idle (0.08v droop under load)
- @5007Mhz at 1.680v idle (0.08v droop under load)
- @5033Mhz at 1.704v idle (0.08v droop under load)
- @5120Mhz at 1.808v idle (0.08v droop under load)
- @5155Mhz at 1.824v idle (0.08v droop under load)
02-01-2008, 11:59 PM
scwam

TSFroggy, we have the same batches (Q746A377 1/4/08). Did you get yours from TankGuys?

I'll update this pic with longer stability as it goes by
VID is low, but yet I feel the temps are good. Just got this chip today. Thermistor I put under the socket is reporting temps concurrent with previous systems I've used it on about 11c lower than what Coretemp reports at load. I'm not concerned about the temp issue since I've got my own device. This chip runs cooler than my 6850.

Water 1.414 DMM verified load measurement:
http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i304/scwam/vid3.jpg
02-02-2008, 01:21 AM
zakelwe

Woohoo! After 3 hours of struggle I managed sub 10 second using a stock Intel heatsink fan

http://www.zen141854.zen.co.uk/9985.jpg

http://www.zen141854.zen.co.uk/intel.jpg

Slight cheat as it is off an E4500 :p: )

I am the King of Pi ! Should change my name to K|ngP| .

That looks like a good name for a bencher :D

Regards
K|ngP|
02-02-2008, 01:22 AM
syne_24

Yea there is definitely a wall after 4.6 for 3DMark. I can run @ 4.725 but it hangs on the CPU test. As for Pi, I really can't confirmed since running on vista x64 already has issues with it. So far it looks like 4.7 is about max on water @ 1.6v (bios) and probably 4.3~4.4 for 24/7 with some fine tuning.

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g1...e_24/463d2.jpg
02-02-2008, 01:35 AM
TEDY

zakelwe intel stock cooler with blue fan, is it with CU base?
02-02-2008, 01:50 AM
yenclas

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zucker2k

The buck has to stop somewhere.

What I find intriguing is that some of the chips seem to have a dynamic vid. Below is a picture of P95 running at 4.6Ghz on x38 and the vid. is still 1.1125 underload. So, my question is, is the this (problem?) related to mobos of a particular chipset? Also, the lower your vid, the higher your temps are going to be so it'll seem to me that those reporting dipping vids on load are probably the same people reporting high temps. Please keep an eye out.

Another thing, The latest everest .....270, has a pretty good stability testing systems which slowed down my system to a crawl, but most importantly, has a cpu throttling indicator; it should be good for anyone whose temps. typically reach the high 80s to try and use that, or merely have it open while orthos runs to determine if there's any throttling taking place. I think RMClock has the feature too. Cheers!

Where is this beta version for download ?

Thanks !
02-02-2008, 01:52 AM
Zeus

Quote:

Originally Posted by zakelwe

Woohoo! After 3 hours of struggle I managed sub 10 second using a stock Intel heatsink fan

http://www.zen141854.zen.co.uk/9985.jpg

http://www.zen141854.zen.co.uk/intel.jpg

Slight cheat as it is off an E4500 :p: )

I am the King of Pi ! Should change my name to K|ngP| .

That looks like a good name for a bencher :D

Regards
K|ngP|

Well done K|ngp|!!!

:toast:
02-02-2008, 02:06 AM
dinos22

Quote:

Originally Posted by zakelwe

Woohoo! After 3 hours of struggle I managed sub 10 second using a stock Intel heatsink fan

http://www.zen141854.zen.co.uk/9985.jpg

http://www.zen141854.zen.co.uk/intel.jpg

Slight cheat as it is off an E4500 :p: )

I am the King of Pi ! Should change my name to K|ngP| .

That looks like a good name for a bencher :D

Regards
K|ngP|

:ROTF: :ROTF: :ROTF: :ROTF: :ROTF: :ROTF:

now try doing that at 4.5GHz even :D:D:D:D:D
02-02-2008, 02:53 AM
TSFroggy

Quote:

Originally Posted by MAXLD

Which cooler are you using?

Tuniq Tower 120. Boy, this proc sure runs hot. :P

Quote:

Originally Posted by scwam

TSFroggy, we have the same batches (Q746A377 1/4/08). Did you get yours from TankGuys?

I'll update this pic with longer stability as it goes by
VID is low, but yet I feel the temps are good. Just got this chip today. Thermistor I put under the socket is reporting temps concurrent with previous systems I've used it on about 11c lower than what Coretemp reports at load. I'm not concerned about the temp issue since I've got my own device. This chip runs cooler than my 6850.[/IMG]

Good results there scwam, and yes I got it from TankGuys. Looks like I only have an average chip to my name - it keeps asking me for more and more volts to the vCore, and I can't do that till I know what's safe for 24/7. Especially considering the droop on this board - I really need a vDroop mod. :P
02-02-2008, 03:00 AM
Cordovader

Here´s mine :)

http://img260.imageshack.us/img260/7...127vvk7.th.jpg

Q740A519
500x8 1,27v
Thermalright Ultra Extreme + Zalman ZM-F3
02-02-2008, 03:34 AM
Chicco85

Mine is an E8500 Q743A... You will see some results as soon as possible. :D
02-02-2008, 03:45 AM
emoners

@TSFroggy: oh i didn't know you can do a .5 multi on the E8400... i thought it was just in whole numbers...
02-02-2008, 03:52 AM
icywater

Quote:

Originally Posted by emoners

@TSFroggy: oh i didn't know you can do a .5 multi on the E8400... i thought it was just in whole numbers...

yes you can choose 0.5 multi for E8x00 .
02-02-2008, 04:26 AM
sofarfrome

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Here is my initial 24/7. 4.3GHz at 1.344vcore.

Blood Iron
E8400 Q743A
eVga 8800Gt 512MB (700:1000 clocks)
Crucial Ballistix DDR2-667 2x1GB
Corsair HX620
WC: D-Tek Fusion, BIX lll, Swiftech D655
Vista 32

I need to get my temps down (lapping, reseating, etc.)
02-02-2008, 05:04 AM
zakelwe

Dynamic VID's.

Mine is stationary, however when I had an old Asus P5K BIOS it showed 1.000 in coretemp program and now I have updated the BIOS it shows 1.125. I always thought the VID was programmed into the cpu but i guess the BIOS sets the VID. Have to confess I am no expert in these things.

Regards

Andy
02-02-2008, 05:53 AM
Zeus

Quote:

Originally Posted by zakelwe

Dynamic VID's.

Mine is stationary, however when I had an old Asus P5K BIOS it showed 1.000 in coretemp program and now I have updated the BIOS it shows 1.125. I always thought the VID was programmed into the cpu but i guess the BIOS sets the VID. Have to confess I am no expert in these things.

Regards

Andy

I've seen several people reporting this, rather strange occurence, one would expect the VID of the cpu to be programmed into the cpu, just like the cpu-id.

So after all, you have the same cr@ppy cpu like me. :D

Did you try somethin' like 1.6V+ on that cpu yet Andy, cause i'm about to?
02-02-2008, 05:57 AM
Grnfinger

been running my 8400 for almost 2weeks with no problems

last 2 days I'm getting BSOD "IRQL not less or equal to" on a cold boot only, and have made NO changes to my setup. Once the pc heats up this goes away and it never happens the rest of the day. If however I turn the pc off for an extended period of time, when I start it up again the BSOD is back.
What exactly is this error, I have adjusted FSBT volts and upped my ram volts, is there anything I should be looking at?
I updated Intel Matrix Storage
Any help/advice would be appreceiated
02-02-2008, 06:27 AM
eva2000
Here's my E8500 Q740A493T 2L7**** / **1808 for Prime95 @4000Mhz on 2 different motherboards with different cpu cooling.

Asus Blitz Formula with Dtek Fuzion/Thermochill HE120.3/Alphacool AP1510 @15v
vs
DFI LP LT X38-T2R with Corsair Nautilus 500

As you can see the Dtek Fuzion H20 setup is much better at cooling cpu with 47C load at 33.8C max room temps versus Corsair Nautilus 500 at 57C load temps in much cooler 29.5C max room temps. Hence, the cpu on DFI X38 + Nautilus 500 setup needing slightly more vcore of 1.312v load instead of 1.304v load.

Dtek Fuzion cooling = 13.2C CPU load to Room max temp delta
vs
Corsair Nautilus 500 cooling = 27.5C CPU load to Room max temp delta

================================================== ====
System
- Intel Core 2 Duo E8500 Q740A493T 2L7**** / **1808
- CPU Cooling: Dtek Fuzion Rad Tower Box (Thermochill HE120.3/Alphacool AP1510 @15v)
- Asus Blitz Formula 1205 bios
- 128MB Gainward FX5200 PCI
- 2x1GB Crucial Ballistix Tracer PC2-8500 dual channel kit (white dimm slots)
- Memory cooling: 120x25mm Thermaltake 81cfm fan
- 80GB Hitachi 7K80 SATAII
- Pioneer DVD-RW
- 620W Corsair HX620 PSU supplied by Corsair
- WinXP Pro SP2 Nlite Fully Updated.
Room temp: 30.4C to 33.8C

4000Mhz - 9.5x421FSB at 1.3375v bios (1.304v windows load)

http://fileshosts.com/intel/Asus/Bli...ime95_load.png

================================================== ====
System
- Intel Core 2 Duo E8500 Q740A493T 2L7**** / **1808
- CPU Cooling: Corsair Nautilus 500 H20
- DFI LP LT X38-T2R 12/28 beta
- 128MB Gainward FX5200 PCI
- 2GB Crucial Ballistix Tracer PC2-8500 dual channel kit (green dimm slots)
- 750GB Samsung HD753LJ
- Pioneer DVD-RW
- 700W OCZ GameXStream
- WinXP Pro SP2
Room temp: 28.1C to 29.5C

4000Mhz - 9.5x421FSB at 1.2875v bios (1.312v windows load)

http://fileshosts.com/intel/DFI/DFI_...ime95_load.png
02-02-2008, 06:40 AM
mele

BatchQ746A377

The best I can get to is 4G @ 444 FSB on my EVGA 680i. This is on a replacement MB that I received on RMA old MB did the same so I'm not sure if it's the MB or if the MB has screwed my RAM and it's the problem as I can't seem to get my ram to go over 900Mhz now.

8 hours Orthos max temp 51c (still running as I type this). However the air coming off the top rad on my system is barley lukewarm at best.
Chip seems to run real cool!

Mel
02-02-2008, 07:05 AM
rge

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grnfinger

been running my 8400 for almost 2weeks with no problems

last 2 days I'm getting BSOD "IRQL not less or equal to" on a cold boot only, and have made NO changes to my setup. Once the pc heats up this goes away and it never happens the rest of the day. If however I turn the pc off for an extended period of time, when I start it up again the BSOD is back.
What exactly is this error, I have adjusted FSBT volts and upped my ram volts, is there anything I should be looking at?
I updated Intel Matrix Storage
Any help/advice would be appreceiated

My E6850 was very stable at 3.9 (orthos 15hrs plus), but I ran it at 4.0 (orthos stable for 6-9 hrs then usually fail). I could do anything for weeks at a time, but eventually start getting BSOD's or reboots. Reinstalling windows from a fresh image (3 minutes) would solve problem, but in time would get other problems. At 3.9, never crashed once.

Yesterday my E8400 was being a little flaky I thought, but then ran memtest on my 6 month old corsair PC8500 and got 12 errors halfway into first pass. I am running my memory faster with E8400, and thus was getting more errors since my memory is going bad (stock settings fills page with errors).

Your running two components on the edge, ram and cpu, either one could over time corrupt windows if unstable, or windows may not be corrupted, your system may just be unstable.

Granted could be other things, but if me, I would
1) run memtest, newest version for 3-5 passes. If errors, back down mem speed/timings, and try again.
2) If memory ok, I would back down OC to 4.2, get orthos stable 12hrs., and try. If still problems, reinstall windows and leave on stable settings for a while and try (windows can get corrupted from crashes from unstable settings).
3) the best OCing software I ever bought was backup imaging software. Fixes all software BSOD's in 3minutes (fresh reinstall of OS and all prgrams)
02-02-2008, 07:05 AM
kiwi

Maybe we should open worst chips section too :) I have 2 chips that require 1.45V (real) to be stable @ 4Ghz. Pretty bad in comparison to others but sure nothing to complain about :) I will get 2 more chips to test on monday
02-02-2008, 07:14 AM
karateo
Quote:
Originally Posted by eva2000

================================================== ====
System

Intel Core 2 Duo E8500 Q740A493T 2L7**** / **1808
CPU Cooling: Corsair Nautilus 500 H20
DFI LP LT X38-T2R 12/28 beta
128MB Gainward FX5200 PCI
2GB Crucial Ballistix Tracer PC2-8500 dual channel kit (green dimm slots)
750GB Samsung HD753LJ
Pioneer DVD-RW
700W OCZ GameXStream
WinXP Pro SP2

Room temp: 28.1C to 29.5C

4000Mhz - 9.5x421FSB at 1.2875v bios (1.312v windows load)
is it possible to post full bios settings?
especially voltage settings (VTT and GTLs)

thanks :)
02-02-2008, 07:15 AM
Grnfinger

Quote:

Originally Posted by rge

My E6850 was very stable at 3.9 (orthos 15hrs plus), but I ran it at 4.0 (orthos stable for 6-9 hrs then usually fail). I could do anything for weeks at a time, but eventually start getting BSOD's or reboots. Reinstalling windows from a fresh image (3 minutes) would solve problem, but in time would get other problems. At 3.9, never crashed once.

Yesterday my E8400 was being a little flaky I thought, but then ran memtest on my 6 month old corsair PC8500 and got 12 errors halfway into first pass. I am running my memory faster with E8400, and thus was getting more errors since my memory is going bad (stock settings fills page with errors).

Your running two components on the edge, ram and cpu, either one could over time corrupt windows if unstable, or windows may not be corrupted, your system may just be unstable.

Granted could be other things, but if me, I would
1) run memtest, newest version for 3-5 passes. If errors, back down mem speed/timings, and try again.
2) If memory ok, I would back down OC to 4.2, get orthos stable 12hrs., and try. If still problems, reinstall windows and leave on stable settings for a while and try (windows can get corrupted from crashes from unstable settings).
3) the best OCing software I ever bought was backup imaging software. Fixes all software BSOD's in 3minutes (fresh reinstall of OS and all prgrams)

I have ran OCCT 3 hours and prime blend test 3 hours and it passes without errors, have yet to run memtest cause I was passing the blend test.
I know 3 hours is a quick run but it was 15 hours stable on my final test a week ago.
I have ran my ram at 1247MHz without errors so well I'm not 100% I am confident its not a ram issue. I run my ram at 1199MHz with my quad and have never seen this issue b4. Also my downloads are not corrupt usally with bad ram you get crc errors and I have none.
I will take your advice and check my ram and try a lower clock and see if the issue is still present, I was leaning towards the Matrix Storage Manager, I have read that enabling the write back cache can sometimes have a negative effect.
02-02-2008, 09:12 AM
mrcape

Quote:

Originally Posted by zakelwe

Dynamic VID's.

Mine is stationary, however when I had an old Asus P5K BIOS it showed 1.000 in coretemp program and now I have updated the BIOS it shows 1.125. I always thought the VID was programmed into the cpu but i guess the BIOS sets the VID. Have to confess I am no expert in these things.

Regards

Andy

Did you check both with power saving disabled? Sometimes you can get a different vid show up with power saving turned on in bios.
02-02-2008, 09:25 AM
MAXLD

http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/2...3maxld2fl1.jpg

4GHz finally... but with "1.38V cpuz" (1.4125V bios), 8.5 multiplier and 1:1 ratio.
3min Orthos is not much yet, but it's a lot better than the previous attempts (<9sec errors). I'm using Intel stock cooling and with stock thermal compound :D , still waiting for some missing screws for my Noctua NH-U9F. I hope to get at least better temps then.

I've tried:
- lowering voltage to "1.36V cpuz" (1.3875 bios) -> Orthos errors
- raising the memory clock to reach DDR2-1132 (566MHz) -> Orthos errors
- lowering timings to 4-4-4-12 @2.15V -> Orthos errors
:shrug:
02-02-2008, 09:28 AM
rge

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grnfinger

I have ran OCCT 3 hours and prime blend test 3 hours and it passes without errors, have yet to run memtest cause I was passing the blend test.
I know 3 hours is a quick run but it was 15 hours stable on my final test a week ago.
I have ran my ram at 1247MHz without errors so well I'm not 100% I am confident its not a ram issue. I run my ram at 1199MHz with my quad and have never seen this issue b4. Also my downloads are not corrupt usally with bad ram you get crc errors and I have none.
I will take your advice and check my ram and try a lower clock and see if the issue is still present, I was leaning towards the Matrix Storage Manager, I have read that enabling the write back cache can sometimes have a negative effect.

Actually if you get the error message again, get the whole error message (specifically the name of file at fault). And search google on that file name and see if part of matrix storage, esp if driver file.

A google search on that error message, most found it to be bad ram or driver conflict. And if you updated matrix drivers...can you roll back those drivers.
02-02-2008, 09:42 AM
ArCElM

Hmm - I was wondering, does anybody have any idea why everest refuses to bench my L2 cache?

http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/8297/hmmkq2.th.jpg

Everytime I have done that cache and memory bench I get a row of 0's in L2 - everything else works 100% fine - ORTHOS, Sandra, Games, 3dmark01/05/06, memtest - EVERYTHING.
02-02-2008, 09:50 AM
PytonOrm

Q748A142 fsb testing with Asus commando, cooling tuniq tower 120

http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=306427

:) all voltages "auto"
02-02-2008, 10:02 AM
sofarfrome

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Some more SS with 4.4GHz. Regardless of percieved temp issues these CPUs rock.

Blood Iron
E8400 Q743A
eVga 8800GT 512MB (700:1000 clocks)
Crucial Ballistix DDR2-667 2x1GB
Corsair HX620
WC: D-Tek Fusion, BIX lll, Swiftech D655
02-02-2008, 10:03 AM
MAXLD

Quote:

Originally Posted by ArCElM

Hmm - I was wondering, does anybody have any idea why everest refuses to bench my L2 cache?

http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/8297/hmmkq2.th.jpg

Everytime I have done that cache and memory bench I get a row of 0's in L2 - everything else works 100% fine - ORTHOS, Sandra, Games, 3dmark01/05/06, memtest - EVERYTHING.

I think your Everest is not updated... it seems not even detecting well your cpu...
02-02-2008, 10:18 AM
UnSeenSVK

..

can somebody tell me how is called that program on the right side of this picture?..please...thanks...

http://img227.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ppppza0.jpg
02-02-2008, 10:23 AM
ThatGuy16

Quote:

Originally Posted by UnSeenSVK

can somebody tell me how is called that program on the right side of this picture?..please...thanks...

http://img227.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ppppza0.jpg

I'm not 100% sure, but it looks like Serious Samurize, a program that you design and set it up yourself as to what you want it to monitor and look like.

Thats what it looks like to me, but im not sure. eva2000 can confirm what exactly it is :up:
02-02-2008, 10:29 AM
Zucker2k

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThatGuy16

I'm not 100% sure, but it looks like Serious Samurize, a program that you design and set it up yourself as to what you want it to monitor and look like.

Thats what it looks like to me, but im not sure. eva2000 can confirm what exactly it is :up:

It's Everst OSD!
02-02-2008, 10:51 AM
UnSeenSVK

...

thanks
02-02-2008, 10:53 AM
ThatGuy16

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zucker2k

It's Everst OSD!

Doh' :up:

Serious samurize is cool though :p:
02-02-2008, 11:13 AM
Zucker2k

I'm thinking about popping the IHS on my 8400. I want confirmation about one thing before I do it though....

Is the IHS soldered on? I will have to know this in order to determine the best approach. I'm beginning to believe the IHS is not soldered on simply because of the differing temp. ranges on some chips, while others show none of that symptom.

If everything goes bad on a soldered IHS core, this is what it might look like:

http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/1410/celerydr4.jpg

A soldered (greased IHS)? Well, check this out...

http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache...lnk&cd=4&gl=us
02-02-2008, 11:50 AM
xMrBunglex

you guys really have to crank up the volts to get those last few MHz in. i just started working with mine yesterday, so i have a way to go. i'm looking for a daily driver speed - something i won't have to scale back when summer comes. right now i'm at 4.05.

E8400
Q745A357
pack date 1/4/08

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...essTest2-2.jpg

450*9
30° idle / 45° load (Asus Silent Square heatsink. ambient is 17°)
Vcore 1.3125 in BIOS
Everest reports 1.27 idle / 1.24 load
CPU-Z does not correctly report Vcore. it always 1.225 no matter what it's at.
02-02-2008, 12:05 PM
UnSeenSVK

hallo mate again...i cant find it... what s mean OSD i type to google Everest OSD and find nothing :ROTF:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zucker2k

It's Everst OSD!
02-02-2008, 12:12 PM
Zucker2k

Download everest:

http://www.lavalys.com/products/down...?ps=UE&lang=en

Go to File, Preferences, OSD, check OSD, apply. You can add more stuff under OSD Items. Hope this helps.
02-02-2008, 12:36 PM
UnSeenSVK

..

thaaaaaaaaaaaaanks:D
02-02-2008, 12:43 PM
CERO

I just installed my E8500 on a maximus formula, so I opened Everest & coretemp, core 0 and core 1 seems to be fixed at 38c / 67 delta to tjunction at stock speed. Then I upped the vcore up to 1.256v. @ 4005 mhz still both cores 38c/ 67 to tjucntion. Then I run prime small ffts... still 38c/ 67 fixed oO what the hell, I know the temps arent accurate but I never seen so far some1 that his core temps are fixed even under load... Oke however I bumped the volts up to 1.328v and now it idles still both cores 38c/ 67 to tjunctuin, then I open prime.. now it does move to core0: 42 core1: 41 / 63 to tjunction/ 64 to tjunction... this sucks I really dont know how far I can O/c because I have no clue what I temps are..... ( cooling is thermalright 120 extreme w/ push pull config)
02-02-2008, 12:57 PM
Chicco85

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chicco85

Mine is an E8500 Q743A... You will see some results as soon as possible. :D

http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/4...ver1md3.th.jpg

Air, Tuniq Tower... :p:
02-02-2008, 12:59 PM
xMrBunglex

i think you're supposed to look at the CPU temp, not the individual core temps. if i read it correctly, i saw somewhere that Intel told us to disregard the individual core temps? 42° load might be accurate with your cooling solution. i have an Asus Silent Square and my 8400 doesn't go over 45° load @ 4.05 GHz, 1.3125 Vcore (1.24 load actual). the people getting high temps with these are overvolting the hell out of them.
02-02-2008, 01:59 PM
eva2000

Quote:

Originally Posted by karateo

is it possible to post full bios settings?
especially voltage settings (VTT and GTLs)

thanks :)

cpu vtt = 1.38v
nb = 1.53
gtl = disabled
02-02-2008, 02:08 PM
unclewebb

mc2k: I know this sounds crazy but if you are using a good air cooler like your Thermalright Ultra 120 Extreme then you don't need to worry about temperatures. With that cooler properly installed, even with 1.5 volts, and with whatever MHz you get up to, you're still not going to be close to the thermal throttling point so don't worry about temps. It sounds like your thermal sensors have the stuck at a fixed value bug but at least once your processor starts warming up they seem to be working. If your processor ever catches on fire and blows up at least you'll have a good excuse for Intel to buy you a new one.
02-02-2008, 02:15 PM
CERO

Quote:

Originally Posted by unclewebb

mc2k: I know this sounds crazy but if you are using a good air cooler like your Thermalright Ultra 120 Extreme then you don't need to worry about temperatures. With that cooler properly installed, even with 1.5 volts, and with whatever MHz you get up to, you're still not going to be close to the thermal throttling point so don't worry about temps. It sounds like your thermal sensors have the stuck at a fixed value bug but at least once your processor starts warming up they seem to be working. If your processor ever catches on fire and blows up at least you'll have a good excuse for Intel to buy you a new one.

thnx for your detailed explantion unclewebb :up:, however the temp will rise up, when I up the vcore pass 1.328v idle: 38c but load: 42c and 1.3600v idle 38c and load 45c. But any vcore lower then 1.328 temp stays fixed @ 38c ilde/load.
02-02-2008, 03:45 PM
maxwolfie

Seems like there has been some good overclockers.

1. What would be the general concensus for max vcore with good air cooling (i.e. good HSF, lapped HS etc), 24/7 use? 1.4v? 1.45v? Even 1.5v?

2. Also, because my BIOS reads different to CPU-Z, and on top of that, I have a buttload of vdroop to account for as well, should I be setting this voltage to my BIOS, or to CPU-Z idle or CPU-Z under load?

If I set my BIOS to 1.5v I'm likely to get 1.49v in CPU-Z idle and maybe even down to 1.45-1.46v load.

3. There's been a lot of drama about temps, should I bother keeping an eye on temps at all? Currently under 100% CPU load my hottest core is maxing out at around 65c, according to CoreTemp. Generally I like to keep my CPU's under 70c, but since my thermal paste is still settling in I think it's normal.
02-02-2008, 04:12 PM
Pacha

eva

http://img227.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ppppza0.jpg

E8500 and blitz formula but winxp battery monitor and touch pad software in the tray? did you build a laptop with your PC or what? :p:
02-02-2008, 04:26 PM
eva2000

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pacha

eva

http://img227.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ppppza0.jpg

E8500 and blitz formula but winxp battery monitor and touch pad software in the tray? did you build a laptop with your PC or what? :p:

LOL the result is mine but the screenshot ain't so someone on laptop was viewing that screenshot of mine on XS forums heh
02-02-2008, 04:35 PM
maxwolfie

Results thus far: ON AIR (Zalman)

E8400 @ 4.2ghz (467 x 9)
1.4875v (BIOS)
1.456v (CPU-Z Idle)
1.408v (CPU-Z load)
45c / 31c (CoreTemp idle)
67c/65c (CoreTemp load)
24.5c (Room Temp)

Orthos stable 1 hour (And counting)
Prime 1M 11.297

Quote:

Originally Posted by xMrBunglex

i think you're supposed to look at the CPU temp, not the individual core temps. if i read it correctly, i saw somewhere that Intel told us to disregard the individual core temps? 42° load might be accurate with your cooling solution. i have an Asus Silent Square and my 8400 doesn't go over 45° load @ 4.05 GHz, 1.3125 Vcore (1.24 load actual). the people getting high temps with these are overvolting the hell out of them.

How do I see the CPU temp alone? I use CoreTemp, do I need to download something else? Can anyone confirm this is true?
02-02-2008, 05:00 PM
zlojack

Mine is batch Q745A553 packed 12/27/07

Just ran a quick 30 minute OCCT and I must say, not bad!

Tonight I will try it with Orthos or Prime95 and see what happens.

Running 8.5 x 500 (I could never dream of 500 FSB with my Q6600!)

Idle at 43/47 and load at 62/67 (I probably need to re-seat the HS since it was sort of a hack-job)
02-03-2008, 02:02 AM
Zeus

Quote:

Originally Posted by mc2k

thnx for your detailed explantion unclewebb :up:, however the temp will rise up, when I up the vcore pass 1.328v idle: 38c but load: 42c and 1.3600v idle 38c and load 45c. But any vcore lower then 1.328 temp stays fixed @ 38c ilde/load.

Hey bro, you haven't told how yours is doing.

Since you have the same FPO# as me and loc.o i'm real curious how yours does.
What's the VID of yours?
02-03-2008, 02:14 AM
CERO

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zeus

Since you have the same FPO# as me and loc.o i'm real curious how yours does.
What's the VID of yours?

Hey m8:), I am priming now small FFts, almost 9 hours passed @445x9 / 4005mhz 1.280vcore. VID: 1.05, only abit sceptical about my temp sensors....:X because now at load it shows just 38c whereas idle was also 38c and stock with 1.12v showed also only 38c, but like u saw when I pass 1.328v or more, I finally see the temps rising....after it passed 12 hours+ I will move it up tho, will let u know m8
02-03-2008, 02:37 AM
HaTaX

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cordovader

Here´s mine :)

http://img260.imageshack.us/img260/7...127vvk7.th.jpg

Q740A519
500x8 1,27v
Thermalright Ultra Extreme + Zalman ZM-F3

Your CPU is right next to mine, Q740A523. You're getting much higher speeds then me though on similar voltage. I need 1.42 to reach 4ghz..
02-03-2008, 02:40 AM
Zeus

Quote:

Originally Posted by mc2k

Hey m8:), I am priming now small FFts, almost 9 hours passed @445x9 / 4005mhz 1.280vcore. VID: 1.05, only abit sceptical about my temp sensors....:X because now at load it shows just 38c whereas idle was also 38c and stock with 1.12v showed also only 38c, but like u saw when I pass 1.328v or more, I finally see the temps rising....after it passed 12 hours+ I will move it up tho, will let u know m8

Don't worry too much about the temps man, i'm sure you'll be fine.

Everybody seem to have messed up readings from the core, personally i couldn't care less, as long as it's stable i'm happy.

I think 9 hours is as stable as it's gonna get, a couple of hours is good enough for me, that way i'm sure it won't crash doing the usual stuff.

Like suggested, keep an eye on the cpu temp, not on the core temps.

VID of 1.05V might change with flashing a bios but it sure looks nice.

Good luck pushing it.
02-03-2008, 02:43 AM
cadaveca

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zucker2k

I'm thinking about popping the IHS on my 8400. I want confirmation about one thing before I do it though....

Is the IHS soldered on? I will have to know this in order to determine the best approach. I'm beginning to believe the IHS is not soldered on simply because of the differing temp. ranges on some chips, while others show none of that symptom.

If everything goes bad on a soldered IHS core, this is what it might look like:

http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/1410/celerydr4.jpg

A soldered (greased IHS)? Well, check this out...

http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache...lnk&cd=4&gl=us

Soldered IHS on E8400. :yepp:

:up:
02-03-2008, 02:43 AM
Capt Proton

And away we go!

Got mine Friday. Am currently at 4GHz. Ordered my Cricial Ballistix PC2-8500 yesterday. I don't think I can go much higher with my OCZ 6400!
Core Temp doesn't go below 37C, but scales logically under load (Prime 95 V25.5) to 50 or 51C on both cores. Matches a read out in Speedfan pretty well. Q743A748, Pack Date 01/04/08. Vid according to Core Temp 1.0875.
http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/8...4ghzbq3.th.jpg
02-03-2008, 02:45 AM
CERO

well I had to often prime failed on me between 9-12 hours :down: , thus why I do the 12hours mark+. But I will see if I can wait that long lol:X I tried 2 different BIOS, both showed Vid of 1.05 but who knows with a new bios update.
and thanks will keep posting;)
02-03-2008, 02:56 AM
HaTaX

Also, users of the abit IP35 Pro, a new beta bios was just released that seems to work quite well for me. It's version 16B09.

Just a heads up to users of that board.
02-03-2008, 03:55 AM
funkflix

My boxed E8400:

http://www.gravedigga.de/gravedigga/....39V_small.jpg
02-03-2008, 04:04 AM
Chicco85

This morning I decided to push the throttle of my E8500:

http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/1...0fsbwv1.th.jpg

http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/5...voltyp2.th.jpg

And it's not the limit. :)

Config in signature. :D

P.s.: the vcore under load during PI 32M, was 1,552 Volt. ;)
02-03-2008, 05:23 AM
v_parrello

Asus Maximus Extreme bios 0904
Kingston DDR3 PC13000
E8400 Q746A328
Air cooling with Tuniq Tower

Max FSB
http://forum.nexthardware.com/galler...00_max_FSB.jpg

Max CPU frequency superPI 1M
http://forum.nexthardware.com/galler...00_sub_10s.jpg

Max CPU frequency superPI 32M
http://forum.nexthardware.com/galler..._frequenza.jpg
02-03-2008, 05:32 AM
Capt Proton

Quote:

Originally Posted by v_parrello

Asus Maximus Extreme bios 0904
Kingston DDR3 PC13000
E8400 Q746A328
Air cooling with Tuniq Tower

Max FSB
http://forum.nexthardware.com/galler...00_max_FSB.jpg

Max CPU frequency superPI 1M
http://forum.nexthardware.com/galler...00_sub_10s.jpg

Max CPU frequency superPI 32M
http://forum.nexthardware.com/galler..._frequenza.jpg

57 and 49C idle? Man. that must be hot when its doing anything. I take it you have not done any stability testing yet?
02-03-2008, 05:51 AM
ArCElM

Hi, I was wondering, I seem to have a faily average chip (not BAD but nowt special from what I have seen) it needs 1.416v REAL & 1.37v LOAD to be ORTHOS stable at 4.25Ghz - is VID anything to do with it? and if so, how and why? I am kinda unsure what VID really is about, and why they vary on the same chips!?

http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/8...pvidzz3.th.jpg

Q745A553
01/04/08

Sorry if this has already been answered, I did read a bit about it but, im kinda unclear.

Thanks.

PS: where can I find an Everest that recognises my CPU that does not have half the stuff blanked out with 'TRIAL VERSION' :/

I am sure I never used to have this problem..
02-03-2008, 06:03 AM
Zeus

Quote:

Originally Posted by ArCElM

Hi, I was wondering, I seem to have a faily average chip (not BAD but nowt special from what I have seen) it needs 1.416v REAL & 1.37v LOAD to be ORTHOS stable at 4.25Ghz - is VID anything to do with it? and if so, how and why? I am kinda unsure what VID really is about, and why they vary on the same chips!?

http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/8...pvidzz3.th.jpg

Q745A553
01/04/08

Sorry if this has already been answered, I did read a bit about it but, im kinda unclear.

Thanks.

PS: where can I find an Everest that recognises my CPU that does not have half the stuff blanked out with 'TRIAL VERSION' :/

I am sure I never used to have this problem..

You think 4,25GHz Orthos stable with 1.37V is average? :confused:
02-03-2008, 06:23 AM
v_parrello

Quote:

Originally Posted by Capt Proton

57 and 49C idle? Man. that must be hot when its doing anything. I take it you have not done any stability testing yet?

Did you watched voltages and frequencies? I think it is normal with air cooling and 20-22 °C ambient temperature and these voltages and frequencies.

With default settings it is different.

default idle temperature
http://forum.nexthardware.com/galler...le_default.jpg

default full temperature
http://forum.nexthardware.com/galler...fault_full.jpg
02-03-2008, 06:30 AM
ArCElM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zeus

You think 4,25GHz Orthos stable with 1.37V is average? :confused:

Well I don't know mate? everybody seems to be around there don't they? I am sure I see a bunch of people with similar/less voltages at 4.2+ I have loads of droop so I have to have 1.416 running through the chip IDLE. only when ORTHOS is under way do I see 1.372, wait let me check.. BRB! ..yer, its 1.376 under ORTHOS. thats HIGH vcore for these chips! they were designed for MUCH lower voltages, I can see this poor thing being dead in 6 months lol! :(

And as I like to sell on my previous hardware thats not a good thing!
02-03-2008, 07:01 AM
Zucker2k

Quote:

Originally Posted by v_parrello

Asus Maximus Extreme bios 0904
Kingston DDR3 PC13000
E8400 Q746A328
Air cooling with Tuniq Tower

I think your system is capable of more than that; I'm getting better 32M times on my untweaked regular OS (Vista) with only 4.3Ghz @ 8.5 x 506. Keep pushing :up:
02-03-2008, 07:17 AM
v_parrello

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zucker2k

I think your system is capable of more than that; I'm getting better 32M times on my untweaked regular OS (Vista) with only 4.3Ghz @ 8.5 x 506. Keep pushing :up:

For sure. You are right. :up:

But this thread is not about better or worst superPI times, we are talking about e8400/e8500 retail OC, and all the settings are done to reach the maximum overclock possible of these processors.
I know, with OS optimized (2003 sever is better), windows registry tweaking, copywaaza, ERAM, maxmem, lowest Perfomance Level, tighest RAM timings, and so on it is possible to reach better score with superPI. In my test here there are any of these optimizations, this is not the purpose of my tests here.
02-03-2008, 07:21 AM
Mickey Padge

I am not bothering to use core temp readings any more, they are too inaccurate to be of any use.

Under idle I was getting 35/42, with fluctuations of 39/50 with no CPU usage.....

The CPU temp reads 52c orthos load, 35c idle, much more realistic temps.

I would suggest people forget about this fascination with core temp readings and just go with the CPU temp reading. Core temp is of zero use with this generation of CPU.
02-03-2008, 07:36 AM
Merc14

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mickey Padge

I am not bothering to use core temp readings any more, they are too inaccurate to be of any use.

Under idle I was getting 35/42, with fluctuations of 39/50 with no CPU usage.....

The CPU temp reads 52c orthos load, 35c idle, much more realistic temps.

I would suggest people forget about this fascination with core temp readings and just go with the CPU temp reading. Core temp is of zero use with this generation of CPU.

I woudn't say "this generation" as the 9650's don't seem to have the diode issue we see in the 8400's and neither does the 8500's. I agree that coretemps are useless on the 8400s but they are of some use on the other two released versions of Penryn. My guess is if you have temp sensor diodes that don't kick on till the higher temps you are made an 8400. If the temp diodes work at even low temps you get the 8500 bin. That would explain why the 8500 is $100+ more for a mere 160MHz increase in speed. Hell. you got a 3.0 GHz Dual core CPU with 6MB cache for $200. Screw the diodes.
02-03-2008, 07:40 AM
Zucker2k

These problems affect all 45nm CPUs with no exception.
02-03-2008, 07:50 AM
Mickey Padge

Quote:

Originally Posted by Merc14

I woudn't say "this generation" as the 9650's don't seem to have the diode issue we see in the 8400's and neither does the 8500's. I agree that coretemps are useless on the 8400s but they are of some use on the other two released versions of Penryn. My guess is if you have temp sensor diodes that don't kick on till the higher temps you are made an 8400. If the temp diodes work at even low temps you get the 8500 bin. That would explain why the 8500 is $100+ more for a mere 160MHz increase in speed. Hell. you got a 3.0 GHz Dual core CPU with 6MB cache for $200. Screw the diodes.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zucker2k

These problems affect all 45nm CPUs with no exception.

Yep all 45nm are having these issues, some worse than others. My CPU is an E8500 and it's core temp readings are of zero use to me, as I mentioned in all my previous posts.....

Intel has said ignore the core temp readings and go with the CPU temp. Seeing how they made the CPU, I am inclined to take there advice :p:
02-03-2008, 08:20 AM
Merc14

My bad, I should've read some more posts.
02-03-2008, 08:57 AM
yenclas

My CPU seems to be stable at 500*8 = 4000 at 1,3625 vcore, but Orthos always crash at 9-11 hours at any voltage.

Anyone with same problem ?
02-03-2008, 09:21 AM
Mickey Padge

What tasks are you going to use on your PC that will 100% load your CPU for 9-11 hours?

If it were my PC I would call that stable enough for my PC usage.
02-03-2008, 09:38 AM
palese

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mickey Padge

Yep all 45nm are having these issues, some worse than others. My CPU is an E8500 and it's core temp readings are of zero use to me, as I mentioned in all my previous posts.....

Intel has said ignore the core temp readings and go with the CPU temp. Seeing how they made the CPU, I am inclined to take there advice :p:

What would you expect intel to say:rolleyes: Newegg has granted an RMA on my E8400 because of heat related issues with this cpu and applications so that alone should tell you something :yepp:
02-03-2008, 09:53 AM
Mickey Padge

I don't have any heat related issues with my CPU, it runs cooler than my E6850. If you did have a problem with overheating @ stock speeds, it makes sense to RMA it, as it must be a faulty chip.

With different CPU architecture, different methods for reading temps may be needed. What if you only looked at the core temps, but the CPU temp reading was much lower and the real temp of the CPU?

You may have sent back a fully working CPU, all because a faulty/inaccurate temp reading software program?
02-03-2008, 10:10 AM
Capt Proton

Quote:

Originally Posted by v_parrello

Did you watched voltages and frequencies? I think it is normal with air cooling and 20-22 °C ambient temperature and these voltages and frequencies.

With default settings it is different.

I am not disputing if it is normal. I am not disputing anything, simply saying that those temps are high.
02-03-2008, 10:12 AM
Amey

Here's what mine is doing.No priming and all but still :)

Intel C2D E8400 @ 5154 MHz w/ 1.67v Vcore - Abit IX38 QuadGT - 2*1GB Team Xtreem @ 572 MHz @ 5-5-5-12 Timings w/ 2.4v Vdimm - DICE

http://www.thehardwarelabs.com/forum...60041c7004.jpg
02-03-2008, 11:03 AM
v_parrello

Quote:

Originally Posted by Capt Proton

I am not disputing if it is normal. I am not disputing anything, simply saying that those temps are high.

imho it is not sufficient to say only "those temps are high"! This sentence for me not makes much sense! :shrug:

It sounds like in my country the temps are high. If you investigate deeper maybe this sentence is true respect north pole temps, but is totally false respect sahara desert temps!

You have to specify the context (cooling type, vcore applied, FSB and CPU frequency). Maybe at the end your sentence could be true and you could be right, but you have to specify what you are talking about. :)

And, as somebody says, maybe coretemp with these cpus is no so accurate, and the temps could be withouth any sense.
02-03-2008, 11:17 AM
Cordovader

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cordovader

Here´s mine :)

http://img260.imageshack.us/img260/7...127vvk7.th.jpg

Q740A519
500x8 1,27v
Thermalright Ultra Extreme + Zalman ZM-F3

First contact :)

Spi 1m 4803mhz
http://img112.imageshack.us/img112/7...3mhznm3.th.jpg

Spi 32m 4750mhz
http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/9...0mhzsr8.th.jpg

3DMark 01 4700mhz
http://img161.imageshack.us/img161/4...0mhzte5.th.jpg

3DMark 05 4700mhz
http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/6...0mhzhf9.th.jpg

Aquamark 3 4753mhz
http://img112.imageshack.us/img112/5...3mhzfs5.th.jpg

And a nice validation :D

http://img112.imageshack.us/img112/818/cpu5002dj5.png
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=307566

Rig:

-Intel Core 2 Duo E8500 Q740A519
-Asus P5K Premium 0504 Bios
-2x1gb Crucial Ballistix
-Evga 8800GTS 512mb
-Corsair HX620w
-Thermalright Ultra Extreme + Zalman ZM-F3 120mm
-Ambient 16c +/-
02-03-2008, 11:37 AM
Capt Proton

Quote:

Originally Posted by v_parrello

imho it is not sufficient to say only "those temps are high"! This sentence for me not makes much sense! :shrug:

Forget it. Far too big a deal for a simple statement. Not worth the typing, really.
02-03-2008, 11:45 AM
v_parrello

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Originally Posted by Capt Proton

Forget it. Far too big a deal for a simple statement. Not worth the typing, really.

. :shrug:

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