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I've found the reason the SPP temp was removed from the latest beta Everest 1344. See here.Quote:
Originally Posted by saphirex7
I haven't had any problems with the Everest Beta 1343 that includes SPP temp support.
http://www.lavalys.com/beta/everestu...m7gsn3dvjx.zip
But if you do then here's 1344.
http://www.lavalys.com/beta/everestu...xdl2kfjn0u.zip
Everest has added back the SPP temp for a limited number of motherboards in this beta:
http://www.lavalys.com/beta/everestu...1scfd4mcyx.zip
You can read about it in this forum:
http://www.lavalys.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=3092
They have changed the way the SPP temp is calculated and you can see from this image my SPP is now half of what it was in the previous beta and probably closer to the actual temp.
Attachment 75606
awesome, thanks for the link. my spp now shoes 49, and mcp 63. i didnt expect the mcp to be hotterQuote:
Originally Posted by msgclb
jesus im reading about this stupid SPP temp. it makes no goddamn sense.
THERE IS NO TEMPERATURE SENSOR FOR THE 780I REFERENCE BOARD.
Everest just reads BIOS temperatures for you in the OS. THERE IS NO SPP temperature sensor, thats why you dont see it in the BIOS. IF its not in the BIOS it does not exist. Sorry to pop your bubbles guys, but those temps are wrong, no matter what.
Furious - from your sig:
eVGA 780i @ 445FSB
Is that about as far as a 780i can go ? What would be the limit with a q6600 ?
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I freaked out when i saw my SPP at 122 degrees :eek:Quote:
Originally Posted by msgclb
But then i looked into that thread and realised that they are only guessing how that sensor is calibrated.
Quote:
We've also changed the formula by dividing the resulting temperature by 2. It seems that formula provides much more realistic Celsius readings.
has anyone tested/run a 9450 on this mb yet?if so it would be greatly appreciated if you could post your fsb results with it.
I have an X3350 on it. It's the same as a Q9450. I got it to post at 3.8Ghz... but I can't seem to get it stable for folding just yet... I've had to lower it to 3.6Ghz and it's still not stable... I can't figure this thing out for the life of me.
did you check vdroop? i dont know if you've done the mod or not
No its not, i used to do 2000QDR (500FSB) but the new BIOS tightened internal timings so i had to lower it. im currently testing 4.1 on my E8400 and having problems atm trying to get it stable. any ideas?Quote:
Originally Posted by aussie-revhead
yep, did that.... It's strange. I can Prime95, play games, do regular things 24/7. But Folding locks it up anywhere between ten minutes and 10 hours. It's just not stable for folding. Any tips?Quote:
Originally Posted by fadetoblack
When I first bought my evga 780i (soon after its retail release), I was running it orthos 12 hr stable at 1800 fsb bus with memory linked and synced. I was using 4x1gb sticks of crucial ballistix (the good ones with the memory chips on both sides of the PCB) at 2.1v.
I shelved it for a while to tinker with an intel chipset board, and recently hooked it back up to my watercooling setup and flashed to the p03 bios. I tried to run 2x2gb gskill 1066 sticks in it (which work fine in another mobo), and I can't seem to get anything stable over 1600 fsb. I wonder if the 780i isn't as fond of the 2gb ram sticks, or if the p03 bios has something to do with it?
Has anyone had a problem where there board won't go over 369FSB?
PO4 BIOS/Vista x64
Q6700
Works at 10x360...have benched at 10x365...but won't run...freezes...at 400x9 or 450x8 or 370x9, 8, 10...
I find that it's consistently the memory that keeps my overclock from stable 4ghz+. Try unlinking memory and keeping stock timings on memory. Then raise to 1800mhz and try from there. I got it perfectly stable with 1.375v in bios.Quote:
Originally Posted by Furiøùs
I have 2x2gb sticks. First I would recommend P04 bios. Doesnt do anything for memory but for cpu it does. I have had no luck running linked with my memory. However unlinked @ 800mhz with all stock timings (4-4-4-15-2T) @ 2.2 volts I can run at 1800mhz no problem. It gives it a nice unlinked ratio of 5:4... I think that it's as stable as it will get. Anything over 1800mhz it fails orthos.Quote:
Originally Posted by drnick79
I've tried unlinked and slowing the memory way below spec...no help
Can anyone tell me what the fsb ceiling is on these motherboards with a q6600 ? It seems nearly all of you are running 45nm dual cores now . I just want to know if I can get to 470-480 NHz or will this motherboard limit my cpu clocks ? I was told its more like 430-450 . I have an EVGA 780i and I really want a pair of GTX's but I have a Maximus Formula coming and may have to get a gx2 for it instead.
Any help would be great.
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I am have not been able to get my Q6700 above 369. Am running 360x10.
Lower the Multi to 9XQuote:
Originally Posted by DavidNJ
Lowering the multi may help. Also give more CPU FSB voltage. Bump up everything. I have mine set to: 1.4, can go to 1.5Quote:
Originally Posted by DavidNJ
Set MCP 1.65v
SPP: 1.5 or 1.45
Read GAR's original post! :shrug:
I've run into an FSB wall at ~400fsb apparently and I'm hoping someone might have some insight.
I've been Prime stable for 12hrs @ 9x400 synced w/ 1.4Vcore. Based upon this, I felt I had a pretty good setup going.
SO, next I moved up to 9x412 (3.7GHz), everything else the same.
Prime was stable for ~20 minutes...then the system froze (prime did not error). I incrementally upped Vcore significantly and everytime the O/S would lock after anywhere from 5-15 minutes, lowering the FSB to ~402 still did the same thing...again, prime would never error.
Upping MCP to 1.65 and VTT/FSB to 1.5 did not seem to have an effect, nor dropping the multi.
Since the ram is rather underclocked and memtests fine, I don't suspect it to be the cause, and I'm skeptical that the CPU is maxing out as well.
Anyone have any suggestions for what I might try next? Can I do up another tenth or two on the MCP for a short while run to see if that gives me stability?
As a heads up, I've already done the basics (all spread spectrum off, exec bit, thermal throttling, etc... etc....) and running P03
PS
Another observation.
Each time the System froze, the board would not POST with a reset. Cutting power and powering back up, POSTing instantly.
Thought that was a bit odd as well.
@ Codeman05,
You are not at a motherboard FSB max. This board will hit 535mzh no problem. I am very stable at 450mhz and can boot and pass 3dmark06 at 500mhz.
I'm pretty sure you are cpu bound ATM. In order to surpass the 3.6ghz you are at you are going to need quite a bit more than 1.4vcore. In fact you may need up to a hole .1v more or maybe even more. My wall was 450mhz at first with my E8400 @ 1.375vcore. To get it to budge past and on up to 500mhz I needed to give it up to 1.6vcore. You should try the same but IMO 3.6ghz for Q6600 G0 is good enough.
Your very likely correct. I did try up to 1.5v but temps started getting a bit out of hand, even with the watercooling. I think I'll just drop the multi and bring my DDR speeds up a bit.
Thanks for the input.
@ Codeman05. I've never heard of B0 stepping. I am only aware of G0 or B3. Your sig say's B0.
whoops, bit of a typo. It is the G0, vid of 1.2
HH do your quoted figures apply to quad core also ? I was under the impression that dual cores clock much higher on this chipset , and not to expect any more than 430-450 on a quad .Quote:
Originally Posted by Hughyhunter
:shrug:
Im at 450 right now no problems with a Q9450. My E8400 did hit 500. Dual core and the amount of ram (banks) seems to have a direct reflection on teh FSB and how high it can go with X amount of volts. Your thinking is correct though, in general, duals will o/c higher on this board. Dont expect to get 535 FSB with a quad.Quote:
Originally Posted by aussie-revhead
To be honest I really dont know :shrug: I do however think that if you lower your multi far enough that you can hit 500mhz with a Q6600. I dont see why anyone would ever want to do that though. This board requires too much NB/SB voltage to get up to 500mhz IMO. I dont like the heat the the NB produces. :down: I wonder if the duals have better bandwidth due to less watts requirements. Probably has something to do with that. :shrug:Quote:
Originally Posted by aussie-revhead
MCP Temps are before TIM replacement
http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f1...verest3600.jpg
http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f1...0780i/4000.jpg
http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f1...0i/0364436.jpg
http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f1...80i/054000.jpg
http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f1...0i/0619276.jpg
Good job Paulxmn
Here is mine:
Thanks, never hit 4000 with the Q6600 on the 680i, Gigabyte P35/X38. Nice results with the E8400.Quote:
Good job Paulxmn
:)
Anyone with a Q9x50 on this board yet????? What are your GTLvref settings?
Anybody experiencing the graphic card artifact problem that seems to be more chipset related thats talked about in this thread?
http://www.evga.com/forums/tm.asp?m=253891
SaphireX
Ugh, my 780i board is misbehaving. I got it from MotherboardPro, and just now began to set it up. It had some nasty sticky stuff on the backside, and I'm not sure if that was causing it to short or something. I've gotten all sorts of Post Codes, and I get absolutely new video.
RMA time you think?
PS - Thank god I still have my 680i.
Quite thankfully, no.Quote:
Originally Posted by saphirex7
I went through four...yes four 680i boards and I pray each and every night that I never have to experience that again. So far, my step-up 780i is working quite nicely. I have a QX6700 and haven't tried overclocking yet. It's been together and working for about 10 days.
hi all. :)
I've some problems with 4 sticks memory, and with first BIOS mobo boot but Win crash and with P04 mobo don't boot!
I tried both 4*2gb Vitesta Extreme 800+ and Cell Shock D9GKX 4*1Gb.
P.S. : like my rig, I've a XFX...
just did the vdroop mod...before it took 1.525 bios.which gave me 1.472 idle.1.448 running pi and was hitting 68-70c temps @ 3.6 on my xeon ( which will run 1.39 stable normally) ( i just started there to see the vdroop and temps)
now after the mod, and testing and adding a touch more pencil at each test, im @ 1.4 bios 1.4 windows @ idle, and 1.392 load both cores and temps now down to 54-56 load ( yea need to lap this one but im waiting on my 8400 first to take the system apart) thats a vdroop of only .008 load from bios, so it looks like it pays to pencil then test till ya get a really close vdroop to bios...cant wait to get the 8400 it will be here wed....
supplying enough voltage to memory? :shrug:Quote:
Originally Posted by most_wanted
I have come to the conclusion that I will end up doing this. I have a 0.10V droop from bios to load in windows. It is really messing with my overclocking attempts.Quote:
Originally Posted by flashnc
Doing the vdroop mod made a huge difference for me :up:
I've tried a couple times and at first it doesnt seem like its doing anything. Using #2 pencil. I think I knocked it down though, from a .5v droop to a .3v. Just seems like the pencil is too smooth to lay anything down on metal. Also, my MCP is hitting 70c running Orthos right now, should I be worried? Idles in the low 60s.
One important question if I could please get help on this, do I have to flash the P03 bios to run my GSkill at 1000 mhz? Orthos fails blend but not cpu.
Yes.... :(Quote:
Originally Posted by Hughyhunter
I hope in next bios release.
^^ kinda frustrating how 4 sticks cause so much instability huh? Maybe try running them at below stock speeds.
guys i just finishing my new gaming setup , running 2 9600 PALIT SONIC/Q6700/Kingston DDR2 1066, Nforce 780I.BFG 800W PSU,
whats the best way to load windows ? with the 2 videocards installed or only one? and debating on what windows to buy windows vista 64bit? windows XP 64 bit? or 32bit?
thanks in advance
Dont worry about having vid cards installed... has nothing to do with anything. Memory too... some people think you cant load windows with 4gb memory. I did!
I have 64bit. It's been a headache! I dont know if it's due to the stability issues with 64bit or just Vista itself, however it does recognize all 4GB of memory. I have read though many places that 64bit will use more of that memory so it doesnt really make much of a difference unless you are using 8gb of memory. I am happy overall and still if I did it again would get 64bit... not to say that there is anything wrong with 32bit it just doesnt give you option for 8gb of memory (like I'm gonna need 8gb anyway!)... Just my $.02!
ok guys...oem Q801A290 batch.( tankguys) nothing special...4050 @ 1.400 real volts loaded, occt passed, load temps 56... idle 34...32m dual pi stable
ran 3600@ 1.257 i think it was, not positive on that one , id have to go back and retest the low for 3.6...was great till then....the it started taking the volts to move any higher, sizable jumps till the 4050 at what you see above. but great temps with a tunic, gaming @ 43c-44c...so im satisfied, finally..in the 4ghz club...( alittle late, but what the hell...im there :)
The EVGA board is on sale @ Motherboardpro for 227.99!! http://www.motherboardpro.com/EVGA-1...ard-p-468.html
Sweet price considering what newgauge is getting.
Hello guys.
I have a E8400 on my EVGA 780i SLI board. What's the maximum fsb you have reached with a 45nm dual core cpu? And what are the bios settings for that fsb. Bc I can't seem to pass 500 mhz. I think 790 board is way much better in max. fsb.
I've never tried to go above 500mhz. However when I did get there I was never out of the "red" in bios voltages. So I assume that I can squeeze some more out of it. However I use Vista and it seems to BSOD a lot whenever I go above 450mhz with 9 multi.
wow the vdroop with a c2q on this mb is unf***ing believable!im getting .12 droop underload...with a c2d it isnt very bad but this is terrible.i have to set 1.55v in bios to get 1.43 actual :/
time to do the pencil mod.
The max with my E8400 is 450FSB with all settings to AUTO except CPU Voltage which is set to 1.35 in BIOS.
I am a firm believer in the waffer placement theory - somebody here made a post about it, and i used that theory to hand pick this CPU at Microcenter. It is supposed to go something like; the last two digits on the PCB relate to the CPU's core position on the wafer. The closer to 00 the closer to the center the cores come from. My CPU is a 05.
I gets to 4050Mhz with only 1.35 volts (VID: 1.1125v / Tj: 105) and on water the cores idle at 38 and on Prime they reach 54 holding Orthos.
Anyway, I have made a few attempts to go over 450, but haven't tried very hard. I'm more curious to see how this board does with a quad core.
525 x 8 with an e8400. vcore 1.45 in bios. spp = 1.5v, mcp = 1.55, fsb = 1.5v, ht = 1.4v. p04 bios, v64 sp1.
Does the EVGA 780i have the pins on the motherboard for doing a BIOS reset as well as the built in switch? The reason I am wondering is I am planning on making an external CMOS reset switch, but realized that the mobo may not have the pins required.
Test Vdroop Mod pencil.. =)
Below the data from before and after the Mod
No mod.
BIOS -----------> 1.368v
Windows ------> 1.312v
Full -------------> 1.288v
With Mod
BIOS -----------> 1.368v
Windows ------> 1.344v
Full ------------> 1.344v
Below some SS proving Vdroop after the annulment of the mod.
System in Full
http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/8...80ifullhu5.jpg
System in Idle
http://img236.imageshack.us/img236/9...80iidlesb8.jpg
Now that my system more stable
(Sorry for my bad English)
Guys i have read the post..
but it wasnt clear for me if it is worth buying this motherboard.....I broke down 3 asus mobos the last 2 moths..One p5w and two p5e....so i am in a dilemma of what to choose.....Asus p5e again (i dont want......) , e-vga 780i , or gigabyte x48 dq6....
I am bored of not having a pc for the last two months.....i just want something that works fine.....(and in a moth i will start o\cing again!!!!!)...
If you want SLI this board is the way to go. If you dont care for SLI and have no plans for it the P35 or soon to be P45 will be a great choice. If you desire Crossfire the X48 or the 790FX are good choices also.Quote:
Originally Posted by ed_hunter
Ok.....
Soon i will buy one 8800gt...so i think that the evga will be a good choise..... hope it works...
finally did the vdroop mod...WOW!what a difference!
before droop mod(rig in sig).
bios-1.55v<---couldnt get 3.6 stable with anything less :/
idle-1.47-1.48
load-1.40-1.41
after
bios-1.40v
idle-1.40
load-1.41-1.40
priming at 3.6 for 2+hours.friggin awesome.
tested at 3.0 with 1.225v(VID)with the same results.hardly any droop at all :)
not to shabby,went from .15 droop to nada.if you havent done it...do it!
Are the eVGA 780i's supposed to allow you to go up to 1.5v FSB? Because mine doesnt even show 1.5v for FSB, its limited to 1.4v
Mine shows 1.4v with bios version P04.
I also have Bios P04, How are some people getting the option for 1.45v FSB or 1.5v FSB? Is there a new Bios release?Quote:
Originally Posted by jas420221
Mine was 1.4v with the shipping bios. P04 is the newest one that I know of.
Where are you seeing people with 1.5v?
Most of you guys with 780i are using Wolfdales , is anyone with a Q6600 getting over 450mhz yet ? Can you guys get to 4Ghz with this mobo and cpu ?
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I can hit 4Ghz with Q9450. Im constantly over 450Mhz FSB with a quad.
well, one guy on this page "politenessman" and also the very first post by GAR, says if your going over 450FSB 1.5v FSB would be recommended.Quote:
Originally Posted by jas420221
Theres also others throughout this thread
Hmm, I see the first post.
Interesting. I didnt need those settings at all for a stable 3.2Ghz (400FSB) or 3.6Ghz (450FSB).
EDIT: In fact, Im at 3.8Ghz now, and am only at 1.3v FSB. My GTLref is at 40mv, so maybe that helps as those 2 numbers are associated. (gtl ref voltage is 67% of fsb).
ive hit a hardwall at 450 with mine.ive tested both a q6600 and q6700 on it and cant get past 450.it makes no sense.ive taken a couple of c2ds up to 535fsb 100% stable but quads are a whole different story.if i can crack this ill be sure to repost but im not getting my hopes up.Quote:
Originally Posted by aussie-revhead
OK so 4050 is the max clock ceiling .
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LIke I said, I can EASILY get past that point... Its not the board...maybe the config? 4 slots of memory?Quote:
Originally Posted by Maxfly
You would be one of a few then mate , it seems far more pople have this same limitation.Quote:
Originally Posted by jas420221
:shrug:
With all due respect, you should (re)read this thread then... I think you have it backwards. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by aussie-revhead
Here is another thead that shows similar results (that arent X38/48 anyway). http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=182602
Im not keen enough to re-read 800+ posts but I will try ....
:yepp:
I know dual's are VERY easily getting over 500FSB. Mine was at 4.5Ghz. I find it hard to believe that me, a c2quad overclocking n00b, can easily pull of 450FSB (Im 475 stable, 500 benchable easily).
Like I said, I think its the memory (4GB people) that is giving them fits at 450FSB+.
You got a good quad CPU then mate..cherish it,... currently working on an E8400 that I hope has got good potential...till now 3.6ghz at 1.08volts... on the good old Striker Extreme 680i...
You think it's 4gb in general or 4 dimms limiting the OC ? the 780i I tested a few months ago (with SLI) the guy wants to upgrade to 4gb, curently running 450FSB with his Q6600 (8x) he got 2 x1 gb dimms of Gskil PC6400HZ... and wants to add another two...
Thats the thing Leeg, the chip isnt cherry IMHO. 4Ghz comes at 1.4v with a lot of juice being pumped through this board (enough to make me not want to run it 24/7). I think yours is a little more cherry than mine @ 1.26v for 4Ghz!!!!
Its the amount of banks really. Anything over 4 banks seems to add a lot more stress to the NB which could be causing this issue. I have (ram in sig) and its double sided.
EDIT: Here is the link of a search within this thread for Q6600 and Q9450. You can see a few are hitting that point and past it.
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...archid=5745993
I can't seem to get stable with my E8400 above 500 mhz fsb. I don't have a 1.5volt FSB voltage option. The maximum is 1.4volt with the latest P04 bios.
1.4FSB is the max most think is safe for 45nm CPU's, so no need ot push 1.5 or more ... maybe EVGA put in a fail safe setting now... secondly not many peeps run 8400's stable over 4.2 ghz mate so don't worry...maybe you got a lesser CPU, lesser board, lesser ram then some others here...
500FSB is already nice not ???
I will run mine at 450FSB with 9 multi , more than enough for daily usage...
500 mhz is nice but not good. I am trying to find out the maximum fsb of this cpu. Also I use vapochill and I think this E8400 should do 5ghz pretty easily with it. So I'd like to get the most fsb out of it or I will switch this board with something else.
Did you lower the multiplier and see what the board limitation is? I know I got 563 FSB on air with a screenshot (4.5Ghz).
Well like I said I couldn't make it stable above 500 mhz FSB. 563 mhz is nice. I wish I could have that.
Currently stuck at 1500 (375) fsb with my new E7200 :(
Set it to 1510 and it doesnt post
very wierd, since i could do 450 fsb with my old e6600
Would this board make any difference compared to my DFI Lanparty 680i LT?
I got Q9300 lying around,pisses me off since i got very well going E6600 and would like to sell the Q9300 but nobody wants to buy a CPU with 7.5 multi.
So if it would make a difference should i hold up for my Q9300 or E6600?
Im not big fan of Quadcores anyway...
bad flash? Try a reflash....
Load an older BIOS....
Very pleased with the voltages and the stability of this board. Older lot # on the CPU called for higher voltages but it's rock solid and very snappy on this board. :up::up:
For those that are interested and are a part of THF I started a thread over there that I hope "deserves" attention. Join in on the fun and discussions and if you want to add to anything that would be great too.
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/fo...0&new=0&nojs=0
why is that i cant overclock my rig? after saving my custom clocks and settings (all saved) but still it seems the settings are not in effect. i clock to 3.5 3.6 3.7 but whatever settings im doing, still the screen after saving and restart of bios the settings is only 333x10, it must be 3.7 at the moment but why is it still 3.33ghz?
any suggestions?
haha, now figured out... my cpu cant run on 10 multi... but now im having 3.71ghz using 9 multi... haha, will give u some feedback later
Dude, you need to shorten that sig, seriously. its way to big. :down:
Anyway, E8400 has been fine, i noticed that after long-term usage, you can eventually lower the CPU FSB down, which i have at 1.2v now, when in the beginning it desperately wanted 1.4v CPU FSB (VTT) to stay stable.
Im happy. :up:
Does anyone know what sound drivers are used in Windows XP SP3? I have a 780i and the nForce drivers don't install sound drivers and I can't find anything for Realtek. Help!
If you didnt get the disc I'm sure you could go to realtek's website and get the drivers.
http://www.realtek.com.tw/downloads/...&GetDown=false
Then you should start looking around at manufactures website. What manufacturer do you have?
Wazzup mans, i need us..
Well, i burn bios P04 into a blank CD to update bios, right i load bios default and set CD frist boot, and turn on computer, i boot from cd and start update bios.. after update i remove cd i press F1 and reboot
i load default bios again and start windows.. but bios not updated...
what i do wrong?
May you help me?
Thank you.
I have an evga 780i reference board. Does anyone know which specific driver is used on the evga 780i reference board?
On my Vista x64 I'm using v1.85 audio driver but I noticed that both XP and Vista lists v1.92 as the current Audio driver.Quote:
Originally Posted by [XC] gomeler
http://www.evga.com/support/drivers/
Mainboard | Audio Drivers | Windows XP/XP 64 bit
Never used disc... always used floppy. Did it say bios update successful? Try again if it didnt.Quote:
Originally Posted by brai
no I try with disc, by windows.. failed..Quote:
Originally Posted by Hughyhunter
i dont see any msg like Updates successful...
when i try by disc.. and i press F1 to reboot i see very very very fast a green imagem and reboot again...
i dont know what i do
thank you
yeah... that's not the way it supposed to flash. My inexperienced opinion is that you might not have burned to disc properly. Maybe try floppy if you have one.
It was very detailed in bios for me. It showed the progress and said bios update successful at the end.
Booting by CDROM disc it should come up with AWDFLASH screen with file to load already filed in the file to load. Hit return. You should see bios checksum verify, erasing blocks and programing block by visual pictures.Quote:
no I try with disc, by windows.. failed..
i dont see any msg like Updates successful...
when i try by disc.. and i press F1 to reboot i see very very very fast a green imagem and reboot again...
i dont know what i do
thank you
On a side note I think the only reason they say load defaults is so that you aren't flashing on an unstable system.
Hello,
may be problems with my single XFX 8800gts (stock cooled) if I put an EK-SB6 waterblock on the mcp of my XFX 780i?
Thanks in advance :)
I wish I understood what you are saying or asking...Quote:
Originally Posted by johnp1983
You started off talking about a videocard, then asked about a SB waterblock???????? :shrug:
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