Well, if the card is hardmodded and the core is @ 1GHz it should be quite obvious that the memory is maxed out as well.:rolleyes:
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hello, guys... still no info about asus EAH3870 vmod?(
http://ipicture.ru/uploads/080615/thumbs/kvcU5cGUcA.jpg
http://ipicture.ru/uploads/080615/thumbs/QbU6V3etPJ.jpg
http://ipicture.ru/uploads/080615/thumbs/UOXKHxV2kU.jpg
people pls help :( 3870 ddr3 powercolor.
didnt se no pcb like that on the topic. cand find vmod.
Is there an unlocked BIOS for the Gigabyte Radeon HD 3850 512 MB with Hynix 1.4ns memory chips?
I'm using this:
http://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/3...12.071128.html
It is for 1.1ns Hynix mems, but it works perfectly fine.:up:
The 1.1ns and 1.4ns Hynix is the same chip, only that 1.1ns is fed with 2.0v and 1.4ns with 1.8v.
You might even gain a few MHz due to the looser timings on 1.1ns chips.
EDIT: I just remembered I did edit the bios to lower the memoryclock before I flashed my card with it.
Little OT,but can I use 3870 x2 + 2*3870?
cka3o4nuk, measure the resistance of marked resistor. According to Demolitionman1, it should be around 5.12 KOhms.
http://img357.imageshack.us/img357/4...gucaaq5.th.jpg
Dont you think that's a bit high for air ? I mean stock is 1.15 with that you can oc the card a lot. If you feed it 1.25 or 1.3v you could manage 1ghz core.
This is insane ( no offence )
If im benching my card on ln2 i'm afraid of going over 1.5vcore and you do this @ air ?
altough i must say i had an screw up when i vmodded my card. Set the vr to the lowest resistance available instead of the highest. I got a litte over 2.2vgpu, instantly turned of the pc, cut the wire... rebooted and the card worked fine ( still running on it ) i guess they are realy well built :D ( or i'm just lucky )
owh my max on stock cooler is 1020/1000 ( aftermarket cooler = 1080/1075 )
I bought a pair of Sapphire HD3870 GDDR4 #100225L
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814102719
I also bought a pair of EK Waterblocks for it as well. they were on sale for under $50 each at NCIXUS.COM actually they're still on sale
http://www.ncixus.com/products/27163...ater%20Blocks/
The nickle plated are an extra $5.
anyway, I find this card has the same design as the one in the first post except mine is a blue board and not red, plus the IC has a slightly different part #. The red one is a uP6201AQ while my blue ones have a newer revision of uP6201BQ.
http://img119.imageshack.us/img119/8...inalic3.th.jpg
I hijacked this picture from Ertu as it is exactly like mine.
http://images0.hiboox.com/vignettes/...48e5f20f30.jpg
I was wondering if there is any major differences in these two chips before I start soldering. I have already ordered all the VR for this already as I just got registration verification yesterday to post. only took a week. lol
My parts won't be here until sometime next week. so hopefully I'll have everything straightened out by then.
My Parts list for vmod & vdimmmod:
4 81-PV37Y203C01B00 4 1.610 6.44
Murata Multi-Turn Po
20Kohms
4 72-T18-500 4 1.210 4.84
Vishay/Sfernice Mult
3/4" H/ADJ 500
4 81-PV37W504C01B00 4 1.610 6.44
Murata Multi-Turn Po
500Kohms
The list includes parts for the 8800GT vmod as well.
Thanks for any help/advice.
-=Mark=-
well, I got my parts the other day and tore my computer apart this weekend to install my water system, yesterday I went down and bought a soldering iron and a few more watercooling fittings and clamps. I got home and starting disassembling my video card to put on the water blobk and setup for some soldering and after looking very carefully at the video card it seems rather tiny. I'm not sure if I'm brave enough to do this soldering after all - lol
anyway, I was thinking of trying this pencil mod first and see how it goes. Does anyone know the resistance needed for the pencil mod, I don't remeber seeing it listed or not as I was planning on soldering. I plan on 1.4v - 1.5v or so.
-=Mark=-
Not sure if the p6201aq would be the same as p6201bq, cant find any info on p6201bq... Likely just a new revision, but I can't say for sure.
I think it is only a problem while we ignore the 4850 mods. Because it is the exact same IC [and layout] as used in 4850. So... if Asus is one step forward or one step back? ;)
front
http://img388.imageshack.us/img388/1603/38501ff2.jpg
back
http://img388.imageshack.us/img388/2290/38502rl4.jpg
and comparision [the second picture, with text, is copied from #1 post in 4850/4870 voltmod thread; my picture is rescaled to match that 4850 in proportions ;)]
http://img368.imageshack.us/img368/7970/38503iq2.jpg
http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/7...50core2lh9.jpg
The mod should be the same, right?
edit: VGPU readpoint:
http://img157.imageshack.us/img157/7753/3850readsa1.jpg
Cant see why it wouldnt be.
I need to coil mods shamino once posted.
Been trough all 28 pages now and no link :(
Vcore, Vmem, OVP and Cap mod just dosent do it for me :D
I WANT MORE :D
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...t=3870+1200mhz
Here you go mate
Yah, that is where the OCP mod came from and it works perfectly. :)
The mod from post #813 (Asus EAH3850 with Glaciator heatsink) is working, successfully upped V with just pencil :).
The problem is - the famous ~862MHz core limit :(. I reached it with ~1,38V [pretty stable I think] and then it is crashing, no matter how high the voltage is.
Is it safe to flash that card (pictures a couple posts before) with some non-Asus 3850 BIOS? If so, what 3850 BIOS is unlocked?
If it is not possible [flashing with some reference-like BIOS on that Asus card {I must add that the BIOS editor for changing V and clocks is working without problems, so the BIOS is for sure like the others, but I don't know everything about it}], maybe there is a way to unlock it by manually {?} editing original BIOS?
I´m thinking about getting myself 3x3850 or 3870:s and voltmod em to around 1 Ghz, I probobly will need a small powerplant to power them, but I love the idea to have three gpu:s on my Maximus, since I have 16x + 8x + 8x.
We got very good deals on Gecubes cards here right now:
3870 gddr3, 850 core, 1950 mem for 130 USD
3850 gddr3, 720 core, 1900 men for 100 USD
Cool or stupid? :D I dont care.
Its been a dream for quite a while now, and now the prices are beginng to settle at a nice level.
Well, I´m gonna start out with two cards, but that third pci-e x8 gonna look very empty and very inviting :rolleyes:
you should better get 3 x 4850 they should be faster :p
I wish I could....
Hi everyone...
I tried modding my sapphire 3850 256mb but didn't get any results.I used this mod but nomatter how much pencil i used the ohms stuck at 5.12.
What should i do?I am a little lost....!!!
Any complete guide on how to brake the wall of 770 core speed and 970 mem speed?
Thnks anyway.
You probably need softer pencil. I have 5B, even if "everyone" recomends 2B. With 5B modding something with ~500Ohms is difficult [the absolute minimum I reached with 76GS which has ~540Ohm standard was ~320Ohm], but 5kOhm is absolutely pencil-moddable :).
2b/hb couldn't leave a mark on it.I mean it is gloss at that place and it is imposible to write.5b can make the difference?????
question about my sapphire 3850 pencil mod..
I was able to drop R1222 down far enough to allow 1.43vgpu...
But weird thing is, my core is just not stable past 837mhz even at that vgpu.
I have AC Accelero S1 on it with the fans....it stays cool...
I have the correct bios installed on it thats not locked @ 862mhz..
Is the core I got just a really weak one?
Only thing I can think is, I dont believe I have any heatsinks on the mosfet section of the board where that group of 4x4 mosfets...
Could those be overheating and causing the low clocks?
hrm....
try cooling them pal and see.Which mod did you say u used?Can you tel me the post #???
I have tried the r1222 mod but can't get past 1.45V.I have hd3850 256 sapphire randeon.The resistance has dropped to 0.6.The temps are great cause of my w/c (65C max).
I also tried the second mod at C613 but can't get it to work.What exactly do i do?I need help in order toget past tha 900mhz at core.With 1.45 i max it there.Tried 920 but 3dmark06 froze.
IN Need of 1ghz at core.
CAn anyone help me?
I got another Gigabyte HD3870 512MB DDR3 :cool:
http://ceemic.pri.ee/hardware/hd3870_2/hd3870_01.JPG
http://ceemic.pri.ee/hardware/hd3870_2/hd3870_02.JPG
http://ceemic.pri.ee/hardware/hd3870_2/hd3870_03.JPG
Time to renew my 3D2003 WR :p:
Without Vmod, it did 972MHz in warm room ;)
sapphire 3870 512MB @ 1050/1360 test passed on stock cooler/air/vgpu mod one and only mod
http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/1208/3870cq5.jpg
NapalmV5, what Vgpu? 3D stable?
i havent monitored voltage yet.. just used fixed resistor
can bench higher but this is what im gaming @ 1ghz core/1.3ghz mem on the stock cooler/air
http://img127.imageshack.us/img127/3833/01gc7.jpg
http://img58.imageshack.us/img58/1426/aquamd0.jpg
i gained 15mhz from just 1 cap replaced
http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/6807/recaplr1.jpg
its not from the lower temp/mem
its promising.. ill recap some more.. :)
What has capasitor to do with voltage? You mean resistor?
capacitor.. what capacitor has to do with voltage: filters.. expands or shrinks frequency..
thanks
http://www.iax-tech.com/video/3800biosmod/03.htm
NapalmV5, sorry, I misread Your text. Ofcourse caps can give us higher OC stability. For higher Vgpu You used fixed resistor :)
Do You have any pics from that mod? There are 4-6 caps in PWM, am I right? You parallel-soldered some electrolytic ones or You removed the original and replaced it with higher tantalum-cap?
i didnt parallel cap/add caps.. ive tried it though.. @ diminishing results
so all i did to gain the 15mhz is i removed the 330uf cap (C730) and replaced it with a 1000uf blackgate fk cap
bam! easy 15mhz for a total of 1065mhz
lol
the vddr mod offered only 10mhz :shrug: so i removed it
Hmm, I haven't the card atm my hand so I only have an older pic: http://ceemic.pri.ee/hardware/hd3870/hd3870_07.jpg
C730 is 16V/100uF :rolleyes:
330uf cap @ sapphire red pcb
ill post a pic later..
NapalmV5:
Yes maybe create a little guide those info are precious and the fact that you're able to share them is even more!
I wish I could ad those caps with the cards in place because I already finished my system and it would be a little tough to take them out. :up:
Just wondering is there different types of 100k ohm Potentiometer? I have one it's the Micro-Size Potentiometer from Radio Shack but they don't carry the rectangle shape ones.
panzerchaos47, "size" doesn't mather asfar it's multi-turnable (15-22 turns usually).
question, i have powercolor radeon 3870, on ddr3. does anyone know bout some vmod on it or it doesnt matter ? all are on same pcb?
mop231, is the IC also the same? http://ceemic.pri.ee/hardware/hd3870/hd3870_13.jpg (NX2420)
I'll post a pic of my card pcb ok? :p:
mop231, do that.
sapphire 3870 @ stock cooler/air 1065/1350 passed
his 3870 @ stock cooler/air 1090/1320 passed
http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/4404/10901320bh4.jpg
not done yet.. will try 20k resistor and see if passes 1.1ghz core on air :)
NapalmV5, why no 3D? I can give You 1200MHz screen also, but that doesn't show much ;)
here we go again.. ego/jealousy is forever strong @ xs :shakes:
ive shown you 1/1.3 ghz @ 3dmark01 & aquamark
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...&postcount=833
i was able to bench up to 1030/1330 but since only @ stock cooling held back @ 1000/1300
if youre so badarse dont trip over my 1ghz/1.3ghz+ clocks.. show me/everyone here your 1200mhz and make it on air while your at it
some of you just know how to take the fun out of ocing.. but dont worry i feed off of you greatly ;)
holy crap
i have been thinking for modding my cards thou
the 3850 wont go past 762 on the core
http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/410/imgp0347qy0.jpg
http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/i...pg/1/w1280.png
That would be because of the stock bios bug that won't allow higher OC then 770mhz I believe.
I just have my 3850 256mb a few days. Fun card to play with. I did a small voltbump by modding the bios and can bench @ 890/999.
the driver resets after about 10 second when i stress the clocks using ati tool.
whe3ls you need a better bios ;)
http://www.iax-tech.com/video/3800biosmod/03.htm
post vmem mod
http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/7831/11051385de1.jpg
thats enough for now.. :)
Sorry! I expressed wrong (due my bad English! :() and You misunderstood my point. I DO NOT say Your result is "crap" in any way. I just wanted to see 3D action also :) 1000+@stock cooling is absolutely great result and I highly respect Your work since! Please ignore my last post, I feel terribly sorry for that :shakes:
I would love to see Your cap mods pictures also :)
I bought some electrolytic caps myself and hope to squeeze some more MHz...
Once again, sorry for that messed up post!
Peace :up:
May you guys be inspired ::):
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...8&postcount=93
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...6&postcount=94
Still one of the most shocking oc's I've seen on XS...Napalm seems like 1200 on air might not be that far fetched for ya, keep pushin. :p:
nice.. damn is that what i got to look forward to now..
im waiting on a better cooler.. thermalright t-rad2
ive capped the front the same way but got diminishing clocks on air.. probably works better on water.. will try the back capping
thanks Gautam
ceemic.. hey man no problem its forgotten already.. all cool
peace :up:
I'm working in Vref mod atm. Hope to get cold-bug under... My previous 3870 did 1170@1,84V@-4C ambient but this one I own now can't do over 1080@air. I used LN2 but no result because of -10C CB :( (1120MHz max...)
How do You guys know what caps to use? I don't see any markings on the little ceramic ones...
nice results but i think my 3850 is dieing or dead. i was surfing the web and the screen artifacted then went away . then did it again and my screen went black and my monitor didnt go into standy by mode
ive capped the back of the card just like Riskas 8x mem caps
http://img125.imageshack.us/img125/9173/11101400ld5.jpg
easily passed 1.4ghz.. wish i could take it higher thru ccc.. 1500 limit would be nice
this is it for this 3870.. may be getting another.. these 3870s are addicting lol
:eek: nice!
The limit can be changed via BIOS-moding with RBE?
Can You take pics from Your mods? :p:
i tried that and increased to 1500 but ccc doesnt recognize the card anymore..
as for pics.. no different than Riskas
But how You guys know what caps to use, because there are no markings on these SMD-ceramic ones?
riska used 10v 470uf rubycon
i used 6.3v 470uf rubycon
you might want to ask riska how.. as for me i just do it.. :D
Then 16V/2200uF should do :D
I just pencilmodded my new Sapphire HD3850 256mb using the HD4850 pencilmod.
The newer cards, or at least a few I've seen have the uP6201BQ chip.
http://www.techpowerup.com/articles/...dc_pencil2.jpg
2 light pencil strokes and I've gone from 1.37 to 1.42v. Only 931mhz on water? :shrug: RV670 cards suck compared to R600 lol!
hi guys! i have a pretty good club3d HD3850, with very good aircooling on it. i'd like to flash a new bios overclocked to 800/1000 but i am really scared since its my first time and i dont wanna fry the card. I'm almost sure that the modified bios is good but who knows, better asking :p:.
http://img.techpowerup.org/081130/Nu...bitmap (2).jpg
will these setting work well? thanks guys!
EDIT: the card is not volmodded yet!
is that the original bios?
heres what i use..
http://www.iax-tech.com/video/3800biosmod/03.htm
set the 3D structure state "overdrive" @ 800/1000
your 3850 may/may not need the 1.254v
flash bios thru atiflash
but have you oced the card to 800/1000 yet ?
make sure the oc is stable before you flash
I bought a cheap HD3850 256MB a month ago, and i did some mods on it
Vgpu Mod
Accelero S1 + slow 120mm fan, really silent
3870 Ram heatsink
Sawed of VRM part of the stock heatsink
With 1.45V i can reach 920 mhz stable ( 15min furmark 1280x1024 8xaa ), but the temperature gets to 70°, with atitool my the max temp is about 55°, anyone else with a Accelero S1 and 38*0 that can test at my settings ?
I'd like to go a bit higher on the core speed, but i have no idea what the max safe vgpu is ( 1.5v ? )
I'v read here about replacing a few condesators for a higher overclock, but i have no idea what cond. should be replaced, and the amout of µF , any help with this ?
And my last question, would i benifit from a ram vmod ? I'm running my ram at 1000mhz now, max 1050mhz, going from 800->1000 didn't matter at all, is there really no ram bottleneck on these card with a core <1000 ?
I'm using a Sapphire hd3850 256mb for a month now. 1.53vgpu and 950mhz full stable. I probably can lower the volts, but didn't test it.
Max was 1053mhz benchable @ 1.83vgpu (OVP sucks):(
I don't know if 1.53vgpu is safe or not, time will tell :D
My ram is 1000mhz stable without heatsinks or active cooling, just naked ram.
ram vmod would help but a bit to much and the card will die.
I'm thinking about putting my 3870s "under the iron". Their both sapphire cards. I'll start with the more curious of the 2 3870s. One is a hybrid, sporting a 3870 binned core and using GDDR3, without any mods at all this card pushes 900+core 2GHz mem. I might sound a tad selfish here but I'm rather upset with those speeds :p: The memory on the card is rated for 2GHz and is Quimonda, but is clocked @ 1800, so I feel the memory should be able to push at least an extra 100MHz. Before I get into hard-modding I suspect the BIOS on this card may have something to do with crappy memory clocks, its version is 010.080.000.001.000000, I've never seen a HD3k series card with a BIOS anywhere near this late. Heres a LINK to the 3870 DDR3 for anyone that may need it. So the long and short of things, does anyone have this card and has anyone managed to use a different manufacturers BIOS on it? I've tried a few but drivers won't work right once installed. :shrug:
i wouldnt go below the default 2d.. its already low
well.. heres my 3rd 3870 512MB @ 1ghz+ stock cooler/air
diamond 3870 @ stock cooler/air cooling/default voltages
http://img78.imageshack.us/img78/8441/10201380sd2.jpg
1020/1380 passed/no vmods
the best 3870 out of the three
edit: 1st mod: bios flash 2nd mod: as5
1150 core after vgpu ? :D
I set my gpu @ 625 for 2d and video playback, it is deffinately higher than needed, but the muscle is useful for me all the same. FYI I wouldnt set 2D and VCD clocks too different, it can cause endless VPU recovers if for example your trying to watch a dvd and do some photo editing at the same time on another display. guess the catalyst drivers arent very good at switching between clocks.
here it is the stupid stock bios...
http://img.techpowerup.org/081206/cl...tupid bios.jpg
lol
heres the 770/975 bios from http://www.iax-tech.com/video/3800biosmod/03.htm
http://img361.imageshack.us/img361/304/50658657qu9.jpg
http://img122.imageshack.us/img122/2487/69549755su1.jpg
set your stock bios to:
http://img367.imageshack.us/img367/3208/10640927gp0.jpg
Hi ...
Thank God ... Finally I've found helpful people like you guys :D
I have DDR3 powercolor 3870 & as u can see in the Picture .. I cant find the resistor R1222 despite it is written on the board ..
I have the GPU O/Ced to 823 Mhz only & need to increase it another 50 Mhz @least ...
Please I want someone Find for me the Specific RESISTOR & which resistor to shade cause I couldnt find it myself ... :shrug:
Here is the photo link of my PCB :-
http://www.abload.de/image.php?img=dsc0393007n.jpg
Thanx in advance .http://www.abload.de/image.php?img=dsc0393007n.jpghttp://i37.tinypic.com/20f42g6.jpg
SkY-ScRaPeR, can't see the picture. Please use another upload site.
This upload site is working, I tried it many times & it worked ..
I appreciate any help about this topic from you people ...
Hey here is another link for my card Pic :-
http://i37.tinypic.com/20f42g6.jpg
http://i37.tinypic.com/20f42g6.jpg
SkY-ScRaPeR, OK, now I can see it also. Is the marking on the IC "NX2422"? If so, then pin 13 is FB and the trace should be this: http://ceemic.pri.ee/hardware/nx2422.jpg
Hi ceemic ,
I might not understand many electronic aspect as I am only a Dentist :D
The green marking is resistor & I measure it finding a " 0.00 " result,
That means it doesnt have a resistance,,
I may measure every resistance & post it's result for you to help me decide which one is the target to shade .
SkY-ScRaPeR, is the resistors, which You marked, other side GND?
You have to find a place, where You can "connect" FB with GND.
sorry I didn't mark it,, this photo is not from my own capture .. I brought this photo from another person's site ..
But here is my own Capture taken yesterday with my N95 :-
http://i33.tinypic.com/1z4bpjb.jpg
Measure, if the blue point marked is GND. If so, You can shade between the two spots marked with green:
http://ceemic.pri.ee/hardware/nx2422pm.JPG
Hi I have a question. How is this even possible? Is your card a very special batch or something?
I cannot go over 860 core, I can't even imagine how you got to 1000+.
Also how did you allow your overdrive to go beyond 885? I'm not trying to disprove your results, I'm just extremely curious! :D
Let me know m8.
3 words. Radeon BIOS Editor ;) GPU speed though.. either he is using a BIOS that allows him to set a good 1.35v or more, or hes vmodded the core.
Hello all,
Yes, i'm new here, but hey, I've been registered over at OCN for a while now.
I asked there to try and find a pencil mod for my 3850, to no avail, someone recommended I try here, so here I am.
The card is a Gainward HD3850 512MB GDDR3. I can not use the "unlocked" bios as seen above due to the memory allocation on that bios being only 256mb, and I get some horrid vga warping going. Worse than a NES that's crashed.
I figured that my card is also locked in the bios, as I can not break 740/922 without artifacting, or crashing my games...
If anyone could help, that would be extremely awesome, because i'm dissapointed after I managed to OC my HD3650 to 975/1100 without crashing... and 740/922 is just weaksauce. Also, does anyone else find that OC's read wrong on GPU-z?
Thanks for your time.