so officially is there a bios thats supports 3800X2 specifically
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so officially is there a bios thats supports 3800X2 specifically
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Originally Posted by mata2974
Well the 1.9 official bios does. And the Beta 1.A3 bios does. 1.A3 Bios is supposed to be better though even though its beta.
had anyone yet runs a X2 on their neo2 btw ???
Yes lots of people on the german msi forum are using dual core cpus with neo 2.Quote:
Originally Posted by harpyboy
Can I run 2gb with my Winchester 3500@2.53 230HTT. I will just get 2 more PDP XBL sticks. Using bios 1.4
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Originally Posted by rodman
You almost certainly will be able to run 4 sticks. The problem is getting a decent overclock with them. Winchester memory controllers arent so great so you will probably be forced to 2T but with bank inteleaving on there is little to no performance loss.
Youll have much better luck if all the dimms are single sided. So try and get single sided. Considered selling the 2 x 512mb sticks u have and buying 2 x 1gb sticks?
Crucial ballistix 2 x 1gb will do 250 mhz and some new ocz 1gb sticks are out to that are fast.
Hmm I'm woundering of getting mor ram. BF2 doest run good whit only 1 gig of ram. But i whant to do a good overclock to. You no of eny good mem for my setup ?
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gave wrong info... typed in the wrong window
2GB
I am having dome troubles achieving the guarantied speeds on my OZC ram. It is rated at 2-2-2-5 217Mhz and warranted at 3.1v.
http://www.ocztechnology.com/product...x_dual_channel
I let the ram run for a day at stock speeds and adjusted the times to 2-2-2-5 1T @ 200MHz 2.7v with no problems. When I go to over clock the FSB the system crashes.
The board can do 290FSB and the Venice can handle 2.7GHz no problems. I have had good result with my Hynix D-BT43 at 3-4-4-8 2T 240MHz @ 2.75v With 4xHTT
What is the weak feature on the bios and how much impact are the T settings (1T or 2T).
I am not an experienced OC'r so I maybe over looking some thing. Any advice would be appreciated.
Thanks,
S.S.
samurai...
that GX stuff is just entry level ram that isnt designed for overclocking. I can agree that anything over stock and it crashes is pretty bad but the GX stuff is cheap. they call it gamers ram cuz of the 2-2-2- timings... which help in games.
with that in mind set the ram to 2.8 and try it which the ocz website says to do.
then go 2.85 which is the max this board will do. it SHOULD work.
if your using SATA drives be sure they are plugged into the SATA ports that are right beside the CPU.
Turn OFF Spread Spectrum
Turn OFF NV/ADI Speedup
Set HTT Multiplier to 2.5x
start with 200mhz and then run memtest and use test #5 for 30 min.... start memtest then hit, in this order... C - 1 - 3 - 5 - Enter - 5 - 3 - 0
that opens the configuration, maually selects Test #5 and tells it to only report number of errors not every single error and its error location... although if the ram is bad,, a screen shot of that too ocz will be needed.
then go to 205... 210....
and dont forget that if the system will no longer post there is no need to reset the bios with the junper just tap the Insert Key over and over a few times and that lowers the ram freq and puts the system into safe mode where you hit Del then go into the bios to fix things...
run only 1 stick at a time you could have 1 bad stick..
put the ram in slots 0 and 1 or 1 and 2 as most people call them (but its not technically its called 0,1,2,3)
reset the bios using the jumper to clear anything goofy out.
reflash the bios with 1.8 Rev 3 from NFM
you can TEST 2T but this ran will run 1T fine the drive strength of normal or weak,,, honestly i have found no benefits or reprocussions from using that so i leave it on normal all the time.
OCZ web site does not provide allot of information. The timings are listed at 2-2-2-5 at 217MHz and the ram can do 3.1v
The boot failure tip you provided will come in handy. An I will make good use of it. :toast:
The one thing that interested me was your comment on entry level ram. Do you mean entry level performance ram? Could you explain Lestat what you meant?
Thank you,
S.S.
EDIT:
I just read an review and found out why I am having troubles. The ram is rated at 2T timings. And they were able to reach 225MHz with the ram oced.
http://www.neoseeker.com/Articles/Ha...ews/ocz3500gx/
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I lowered the HTT, increased the voltage, and changed the timing to 2T. Once I raised the FSB the computer blue screened. I am starting to think the ram or some thing is buggy.
entry level performance ram is a better term to use yes.
its cheaper,, its not an overclocking designed ram from the reviews of it i have seen.
basically games perform better with 2-2-2- timings and not all 2-2-2- timing ram is cheap so i imagine OCZ put out this entry level performance ram to move people over to OCZ and let them experience the 2-2-2- performance that others with higher performance ram have seen.
i just havent seen good OC results with this ram but post your question in the OCZ section here,, the guys over there are great.
and dont run the ram at 3.1v that just is a warrenty thing they do.. if its TCCD or TCCC hynic then 3.1 volts will do no good at all and can harm it.
more than likely what it is is TCCD DDR400 that failed their tests but runs fine at up to around 220mhz....
so they take it and put it into the cheaper ram and sell it for less.
if it is infact TCCD then voltages above 2.9v are worthless.. it wont do any good and infact can kill TCCD based ram.
GX isnt entry level ram (its almost as expencive as their VX PC4000), they are BH5 chips they should work at the stock speeds if not rma them, but if they are ok, and if u can supply them more voltage u should be able to get them anywhere in 240-260mhz and mabey more
millyons --
woah they ARE bh5 ? wow no kidding ?
i say entry level performance stuff cuz what i have seen for overclocking i havent seen too much good... i dont know if they are failed VX stuff or what...
but hell yes if they are BH5 crank the volts and give them hell!!! lol
but if they wont run stock use one stick at a time to see if you can find the bad stick or what not...
thanks for the info millyons!
they are not failed VX (wich are new CH5/UTT dye) they are the new BH5 dye and and basicly the same as OCZ PC3200 Gold witch some ppl have and are getting around same results as with the VX ..... OCZ Gold GX are just a new product so that is why there isnt much about it on the forums...............and ya about neoseekers thing about being speced at 2T i dont think OCZ speces any of their ram 2T specialy since that is more of a chipset / cpu thing ........... i for one had old BH5 KHX 2x512mb that did different 1T speeds on 3 different NF7-S all up to 215mhz and then they did 230mhz top on my nforce3
Thanks guys,
Emailed OCZ and they replied in under an hour :clap:
The tech said raise the timings to 2-2-2-10 at 2.75 volts and if the does not work they will RMA.
I lowered the timings and it wouldn't do 205MHz 2-2-2-10 2T@2.75v so RMA we go.. To bad because they are brand new.
ya OCZ has awsome customer support.........dont feel bad about rma its better than having flakey ram
yeah its just getting flakey ram right out of the box that buts a persons undies in a bunch...
but yes 2-2-2-5 or 10 and run then at different HTT values @ 2.75 and if they wont run then they are shot.
and that is really cool to know that they are the new BH-5 stuff... again i just have not seen any good overclocking results for this ram.. but defualts speeds that do not run yes... definately rma them..
I think the Neo 2 just hates BH-5 rams, especially the 2x512MB flavors. I have 2x512 old school BH-5 Kingston rams that will do 2-2-2-10 @ 2.6V on the Neo2 at 200 HTT. But anything higher than 205 HTT is a no go at whatever the voltage (i have tried a ddr booster at up to 3.5v), bios settings or bios versions. This is with a 3200+ Winchester.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lestat
And, i have never read anyone that has good luck overclocking with 2x512MB BH-5 with the neo2 at 2-2-2-10 (even with a ddr booster).
For some strange reason Core center wont work anymore for me says. Core center doesnt support your board.
Also in cpuz it doesnt say motherboard name anymore its just blank.
I did install new nforce drivers not to long ago. Version :devil:6.66:devil: i think it was but im pretty sure core center worked after that not certain though.
Anyone else had this ?
hjhhmmm 6.66 never hear dof those i use the 6.xx beta or 6. something or antoher beta...
wierd... i bet those drivers are for nforce 4 only cuz unlike what people say those NForce 4 drivers do not work properly for nforce 3 chipsets..
Corecenter has always worked fine for me with both 5.10 and 6.37B drivers
Has any one else had problems with BH-5 chips on their MSI board?Quote:
Originally Posted by Jhya
This may explain why the ram is fine at 200MHz but fails at anything over 2001MHz at any timings.
It is not to late to return the ram if it is no good for my setup. What should I get in it's place? In the $240 Canadian range.
its no good dude id say the ram itself is bad..
the BH-5 has ram fine upwards and over 250mhz depending on the ram..
the mushkin redline will run massive speeds.
you gotta remember the AMD64's love tight timings... just look at the OCZ VX stuff that windbond UTT which is not nearly as good as BH-5 ram and it will run 260mhz 2-2-2-5
i say your ram is bad .
you need to increase the voltage on that ram crank it to 3.0v and see what happens.. its not gunna hurt the ram.
i could be wrong but i stick with the ram being bad...
have you ever run any tccd ram in that board ? at 2-2-2
have you lowered your HTT multiplier to 2.5 or 3 or 2 ?
whats your cpu voltages ?
turn off spread spectrum.... have you tried the 1.8 rev 3 mod that NFM has ?
I speaking out frustration from my own experience with BH-5 rams on the NEO2. The MSI K8N Neo2 just HATES BH-5 rams.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lestat
Have you actually tried the BH-5 on the NEO2 with 2 512MB sticks??? I like to see you run those at 250MHz!
To be honest I dont even think the redline or VX sticks will run 250MHz at 2-2-2-10 timings on the MSI K8N NEO2 either.
Can anyone confirm that?