**Official DFI LanParty UT X48-T2R(and LT) Discussion

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08-21-2008, 08:28 AM
ScottFern

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Originally Posted by Praz

VCORE Droop Control set to enabled - Droop is enabled as per Intel specs.

VCORE Droop Control set to disabled - No droop.

Oh....I see. :D

Well, in that case I am really impressed with this board and its lack of droop. :up:
08-21-2008, 08:59 AM
Vega

What do you think about the new official bios 2008/07/25?
I have to push more voltage on everything and have problem to hit 440fsb+. With 2007/03/20 i could do 500fsb easy with out GTL settings!?
And whats the new settings under "GTL"?
08-21-2008, 09:35 AM
Praz

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Originally Posted by Vega

I have to push more voltage on everything and have problem to hit 440fsb+. With 2007/03/20 i could do 500fsb easy with out GTL settings!?

Then go back to the 03/20 BIOS. Not sure why most everyone thinks latest and greatest necessarily go together.
08-21-2008, 09:48 AM
x0vash0x

So, I just put powered on my system, and I get a post code F7. Anyone care to share some light into what this means?
08-21-2008, 10:20 AM
Justintoxicated

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Originally Posted by x0vash0x

So, I just put powered on my system, and I get a post code F7. Anyone care to share some light into what this means?

http://www.clunk.org.uk/forums/hardw...html#post12434

Unfortunately with my setup I am not stable again with 8GB of memory installed. Not sure wether to up the Vtt or back of the FSB some more. I lowered the memory speeds (not timings) by using the slowest divider 400/something but its still not stable with 8GB.
08-21-2008, 10:26 AM
wilson

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vega

What do you think about the new official bios 2008/07/25?
I have to push more voltage on everything and have problem to hit 440fsb+. With 2007/03/20 i could do 500fsb easy with out GTL settings!?
And whats the new settings under "GTL"?

I found that 320 bios worked better with my E8400 than 725 but with my E8600 it seems better.
08-21-2008, 10:41 AM
ScottFern

Quote:

Originally Posted by wilson

I found that 320 bios worked better with my E8400 than 725 but with my E8600 it seems better.

I concour the 320 bios works great for me and my E8400. No reason to switch.
08-21-2008, 02:27 PM
DiscoTech

what fsb on average can I expect on this board on air with a 45nm quad core?

People are saying that the digital pwm is good for quad cores, but my multiplier is maxed at 8 with my Q9450 so I need some FSB out of it as well.
08-21-2008, 02:33 PM
Justintoxicated

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Originally Posted by DiscoTech

what fsb on average can I expect on this board on air with a 45nm quad core?

People are saying that the digital pwm is good for quad cores, but my multiplier is maxed at 8 with my Q9450 so I need some FSB out of it as well.

most people seem to be recommending P45 chipset for Quads over this board. I think it will also depend on how much memory your using and the CPU itself. most don't seem to get over 450 FSB though, I can't seem to quite get 425 (with 8GB) but it seems fine with 4GB (IntelBurnTested 20 runs). Then Again I seem to be prime stable I just can't pass 100 runs of IntelBurnTest.... My chip may be a bit worse than most peoples though.

I'm thinking about selling this CPU and switching to a dual core....I would actualy get a little money and likely more performance as well.
08-21-2008, 02:48 PM
DiscoTech

Quote:

Originally Posted by DiscoTech

what fsb on average can I expect on this board on air with a 45nm quad core?

People are saying that the digital pwm is good for quad cores, but my multiplier is maxed at 8 with my Q9450 so I need some FSB out of it as well.

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Originally Posted by Justintoxicated

most people seem to be recommending P45 chipset for Quads over this board. I think it will also depend on how much memory your using and the CPU itself. most don't seem to get over 450 FSB though, I can't seem to quite get 425 (with 8GB) but it seems fine with 4GB (IntelBurnTested 20 runs). Then Again I seem to be prime stable I just can't pass 100 runs of IntelBurnTest.... My chip may be a bit worse than most peoples though.

I'm thinking about selling this CPU and switching to a dual core....I would actualy get a little money and likely more performance as well.

Thanks. That helps a lot. Although I need good ram overclocking capability for my 4x1GB Micron D9Gs , I can't sacrifice cpu overclock for it. My cpu was able to prime at 475*8 on a P35 board.
08-21-2008, 02:53 PM
zsamz_

Quote:

Originally Posted by DiscoTech

what fsb on average can I expect on this board on air with a 45nm quad core?

People are saying that the digital pwm is good for quad cores, but my multiplier is maxed at 8 with my Q9450 so I need some FSB out of it as well.

well i can do 4x1 @500fsb 1200mhz n i got the x38 version
but i think you better off with p5q series its tough gettin quads @ 475fsb gtl setting are tough
08-21-2008, 03:00 PM
DiscoTech

Quote:

Originally Posted by DiscoTech

what fsb on average can I expect on this board on air with a 45nm quad core?

People are saying that the digital pwm is good for quad cores, but my multiplier is maxed at 8 with my Q9450 so I need some FSB out of it as well.

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Originally Posted by zsamz_

well i can do 4x1 @500fsb 1200mhz n i got the x38 version

Cool. Which 45nm quad core do you have? and are you on air cooling?
08-21-2008, 03:05 PM
zsamz_

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Originally Posted by DiscoTech

Cool. Which 45nm quad core do you have? and are you on air cooling?

i dont like quads:rofl:
yes i'm on air
i dumped my x38 n took out my dfi ut p35:D
wanna see why lol
08-21-2008, 03:23 PM
DiscoTech

Quote:

Originally Posted by DiscoTech

what fsb on average can I expect on this board on air with a 45nm quad core?

People are saying that the digital pwm is good for quad cores, but my multiplier is maxed at 8 with my Q9450 so I need some FSB out of it as well.

Quote:

Originally Posted by DiscoTech

Thanks. That helps a lot. Although I need good ram overclocking capability for my 4x1GB Micron D9Gs , I can't sacrifice cpu overclock for it. My cpu was able to prime at 475*8 on a P35 board.

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Originally Posted by zsamz_

i dont like quads:rofl:
yes i'm on air
i dumped my x38 n took out my dfi ut p35:D
wanna see why lol

Really impressive being on air!! :clap:
what was the ambient temperature?
is that the new stepping for the 8600?

I do not want to buy another processor before Nehalem. :(
If we are realistic and talk about 4.5GHz on a dual core, would that beat 3.8Ghz quad core on gaming performance? :shrug:

what would be the graphics performance difference between the p45's new PCIe 2.0 and your p35's PCIe? (I will be using a 4870x2)

Even though you did 550 here and 500 with 4x1 memory, can't the fsb limit of a motherboard be totally different with a quad core? :confused:
It probably should not be the processor to be blamed everytime. :confused:
08-21-2008, 05:12 PM
zsamz_

Quote:

Originally Posted by DiscoTech

Really impressive being on air!! :clap:
what was the ambient temperature?
is that the new stepping for the 8600?

I do not want to buy another processor before Nehalem. :(
If we are realistic and talk about 4.5GHz on a dual core, would that beat 3.8Ghz quad core on gaming performance? :shrug:

what would be the graphics performance difference between the p45's new PCIe 2.0 and your p35's PCIe? (I will be using a 4870x2)

Even though you did 550 here and 500 with 4x1 memory, can't the fsb limit of a motherboard be totally different with a quad core? :confused:
It probably should not be the processor to be blamed everytime. :confused:

a quad will limit fsb
4.6ghz is easy with new stepping 1.38v
i doubt a quad is even close games dont need no quad in my opinion
anything below 500fsb is totaly useless to me so ...
08-21-2008, 06:00 PM
adya

quads are good for 3dmark scores ,thats about it. lol
i get the same load times with games, photoshop cs3, adobe premier etc with both my x6800 and xeon x3660 and q6600 . theres really no difference , i use vista sidebar gadget that shows ur core usage at any given time .and ive never seen all four cores run unless on occt etc. its always one core and maybe two at the most.
i keep reading that x48 boards clock better with c2d . that was my experience with this board also.
08-21-2008, 06:22 PM
Justintoxicated

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Originally Posted by adya

quads are good for 3dmark scores ,thats about it. lol
i get the same load times with games, photoshop cs3, adobe premier etc with both my x6800 and xeon x3660 and q6600 . theres really no difference , i use vista sidebar gadget that shows ur core usage at any given time .and ive never seen all four cores run unless on occt etc. its always one core and maybe two at the most.
i keep reading that x48 boards clock better with c2d . that was my experience with this board also.

So shoudl I sell this MB as well? What is the best P45 board that I can liquid cool, everything I see has heatpipes all over the place :(

Im considering selling this MB and CPU and upgrading from a quad to a dual core at about $100 loss. Other option is to sell the MB ($100 loss I guess?) and trade my Q9450 for a Q6600 and pickup a new MB.
08-21-2008, 07:16 PM
zsamz_

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Originally Posted by Justintoxicated

So shoudl I sell this MB as well? What is the best P45 board that I can liquid cool, everything I see has heatpipes all over the place :(

Im considering selling this MB and CPU and upgrading from a quad to a dual core at about $100 loss. Other option is to sell the MB ($100 loss I guess?) and trade my Q9450 for a Q6600 and pickup a new MB.

you be wastin your money sellin the board
you can always get another board n see then sell it lol
i myself have a backup board a backup cpu n backup v-card:rofl:
and 12 sets of backup ram
mind you i got backups for all 5 of my pcs:rofl: i rarely sell my stuff:ROTF:
i still got some p3 systems collectin dust:yepp:
08-21-2008, 07:40 PM
x0vash0x

So, the the X48/X38 don't work with 4870X2... DFI is working on a BIOS fix, but yeah....
08-21-2008, 07:42 PM
Justintoxicated

Quote:

Originally Posted by x0vash0x

So, the the X48/X38 don't work with 4870X2... DFI is working on a BIOS fix, but yeah....

I thought they fixed it no?

Wasting money would be keeping the board since switching them out requires formatting anyways. I still have celleron 300a and Pentium 2's 3's athalong XP's in the closet lol

BTW I fail IntelBurnTest in less than 1/2 hour, but I have been priming for 8 hours without a single hiccup. I still dont consider the PC stable. If I can't pass IntelBurnTest, dman this program for being sooooo good, I would have been happy by passing prime for 24 hours otherwise...I was just running prime to see if I could find a core failing. Perhpas its memory timings or I need more voltage (rated for 1.8-1.9v)? Any recommendations on what I should set them to? The default timings are 5-5-5-15
08-21-2008, 07:45 PM
x0vash0x

Quote:

Originally Posted by Justintoxicated

I thought they fixed it no?

Wasting money would be keeping the board since switching them out requires formatting anyways. I still have celleron 300a and Pentium 2's 3's athalong XP's in the closet lol

There's a fix for a few of the X48/X38 boards, but not the X48-TR2 yet. I tried to flash the BIOS to the 'Fixed' UT BIOS, but it didn't work. So, I'm pretty much screwed until DFI gets this fixed.

Rather frustrating... :mad:
08-21-2008, 07:48 PM
Justintoxicated

Quote:

Originally Posted by x0vash0x

There's a fix for a few of the X48/X38 boards, but not the X48-TR2 yet. I tried to flash the BIOS to the 'Fixed' UT BIOS, but it didn't work. So, I'm pretty much screwed until DFI gets this fixed.

Rather frustrating... :mad:

You tried flashing from USB? I'm running a UT bios on my LT board. It would not let me flash from inside windows.
08-21-2008, 07:48 PM
x0vash0x

Quote:

Originally Posted by Justintoxicated

You tried flashing from USB? I'm running a UT bios on my LT board.

Yeah. I mean, I got the UT BIOS, but it didn't fix the 4870X2 issue.
08-21-2008, 07:49 PM
zanzabar

the 4870x2 works its on the bios page for every board (or coming soon) the UT and x38 have fixes, and u can use the UT bios on the LT

and do u have enough power on the board through the floppy connector
08-21-2008, 07:52 PM
x0vash0x

Quote:

Originally Posted by zanzabar

the 4870x2 works its on the bios page for every board (or coming soon) the UT and x38 have fixes, and u can use the UT bios on the LT

and do u have enough power on the board through the floppy connector

Huh? I'm flashing it through a USB drive. I've flashed it to the UT X48 BIOS, but it didn't fix the X2 issue.

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