That's the same guy predicting the HD 6950 would beat the GTX 580, right?Quote:
Originally Posted by zerazax
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That's the same guy predicting the HD 6950 would beat the GTX 580, right?Quote:
Originally Posted by zerazax
I don't think so. But this guy(neliz) knows a lot ;).Quote:
Originally Posted by SKYMTL
I was right. :clap:Quote:
Originally Posted by informal
I'm sure he was talking about 3dmak11 score :D
Yeah, he is about as good as Fuad at these rumours...
Well "to trade blows" is different from "beating 580". First implies being on par,while second being uniformly faster. I would expect Cayman XT to be somewhat faster than 580GTX while Pro to be somewhat faster than 570.Quote:
Originally Posted by SKYMTL
6950 trading blows with 580 means 6970 annihilating 580.Quote:
Originally Posted by informal
I doubt 6970 will be annihilating 6950. Do you consider ~15% faster than 6950 an annihilation?Quote:
Originally Posted by hurrdurr
$50 cheaper and 15% faster? It is utter destruction.Quote:
Originally Posted by informal
If it(6870) is somewhat faster than 580 don't expect NV will sit still and leave those prices untouched.They will make corrections instantly. Basically,performance will dictate the prices.I expect that you will get similar perf./$ from both camps. What is unknown is power draw comparison and driver support.
Trading blows is not beating as was pointed out. And he is definitely a guy 'in the know'.Quote:
Originally Posted by SKYMTL
Sure, but he's also right there behind Charlie, when it comes to hating NVIDIA.
so is SKYMTL... best case scenario we get the same performance from 6970 as 580 and 6950 as 570 then both but with AMD's being priced cheaper. then both AMD AND Nvidia lower prices and you get sweet cards no matter what color your vision is for cheapQuote:
Originally Posted by SimBy
Oh cmon now, no one hates nV as much as Charlie. Not even close :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Vardant
Hardware.fr have both 6900 cards and are confirming december 15 to be the launch date in their GTX 570 Review.
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A l’heure où nous publions ce dossier, les Radeon HD 6900 sont enfin entre nos mains et avec un lancement prévu le 15 décembre il paraît cette fois sage de patienter une semaine de plus pour disposer de toutes les informations avant d’acheter.
Why do you say nelis hates Nvidia like Charlie? Any prove of that?Quote:
Originally Posted by Vardant
I don't think even Charlie hates Nvidia, he just doesn't like some of the Nvidia shill, most likely he is not the only.
Charlie has a grudge against NVIDIA that goes back to the Derek Perez days. It's a long story with plenty of twists and turns but the long and short of it is that Charlie's feelings have lingered long after Derek left.Quote:
Originally Posted by Heinz68
Well since Charlie wont respond to this post, lets read what he posted hereQuote:
Originally Posted by SKYMTL
Charlie is totally biaised. You like that ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Heinz68
Most people are biased, even journalist or reviewers are biased. You're not? Some people are just more open about it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Olivon
If for example some people can tolerate Fudzilla they should not have any problem to tolerate Charlie plus most times he at least knows what he is talking about or has better sources.
Whether I like Charlie or not it's not the point.
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Anyway all this was about neliz until Vardant compared him to Charlie. I believe there is nothing to compare.
I don't think so.Quote:
Originally Posted by Heinz68
My opinion is more that fanboyism brings negative attitudes in HW debates.
Charlie is a really AMD's passionnaria and plays with that in a pathetic way and when I wanna find real informations I 'ill grab'em in non-biaised areas, plenty of sites make excellent work and I can diggin' my passion in a fair way.
Ideas can change Heinz :yepp:
I can only guess what are you talking about, but if you're accusing others of fanboyism, it is at least funny. Same like Charlie sometime is. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Olivon
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Originally Posted by Olivon
and your just an honnest 100% unbiased by-stander??? ;)
I don't think anyone can truly be 100% unbiased unless they're a robot. The question is how much someone is
How about you bring proof that Charlie's motivations are fueled by AMD fanboyism instead of past interactions where Nvidia lied to him and AMD hasn't fallen into that flagrant moral trap? BTW this is rhetorical question let's just go back to fantasizing about 6900 offering better value than what Nvidia has currently put out.Quote:
Originally Posted by Olivon