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10-26-2006, 04:23 AM
Marvin_The_Martian

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Originally Posted by HamidFULL

MartianInvader and TheForce81 : please write it at one line with little explain

more problems that I find out from your posts and other resource :
7.ram voltage being displayed as failed over +0.375v
8.intel QST dosen work properly

My ocz ram (ghm/gkx they don't wanna tell me... :sad: ) does it rated speeds/timings but not with 1:2 divider. So I can run 2.1gh with the ram doing pc8000 but I can't run 500x7 1:2 with it. Looking at my sig I do know it's a ram compatibility issue I recon, since I got geil sticks which do 522 benchable in the same setup. Also I thought that the ram being displayd as failure ment it was out off ddr2 specs, not that is was failing to deliver the +.Xv to the sticks.
10-26-2006, 04:27 AM
Lestat

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Originally Posted by ea6gka

Lestat have you tried to up tha voltage to 2.1-2.2 and see if it 1000 does with CL4 ?

yeah i've tried up to 2.4v

i did do 1050 @ 5-6-6-18 @ 2.1v but that was ONLY achievable using a 2:3 divider. that means set the FSB to default, then set the ram frq. to 800 and overclock from there.
if i tried any other ram divider it wouldnt work. but thats unacceptable. this D9 can do 1100mhz .at much less than that... damn DS3 anyways lol.
and whats even more screwed up... if you use 667... the system wont overclock hardly at all. that right there is an indication that the northbridge chipset latencies are totally wacko!

well .. new bios ? not this week atleast.
10-26-2006, 05:27 AM
Richard Dower

Quote:

Originally Posted by HamidFULL

MartianInvader and TheForce81 : please write it at one line with little explain

more problems that I find out from your posts and other resource :
7.ram voltage being displayed as failed over +0.375v
8.intel QST dosen work properly

It shows a fail warning if you go above +0.325V
10-26-2006, 05:30 AM
Richard Dower

For me right now the most important update that needs to be done is updating the bios ROMs for the JMicron and Intel controllers.

I have long since emailed GB about this issue and given then detailed info on said updates.

Intel RAID bios ROM from version 6.0.0.1022 to version 6.1.0.1002, the Intel AHCI bios also needs to be updated from August 4th 2006 to the newer September 13th 2006.

JMicron from 1.06.53 to what i belive it the latest and offered by Asus - 1.06.56a, their may be an even later version.
10-26-2006, 06:10 AM
Lestat

Quote:

Originally Posted by Richard Dower

For me right now the most important update that needs to be done is updating the bios ROMs for the JMicron and Intel controllers.

I have long since emailed GB about this issue and given then detailed info on said updates.

Intel RAID bios ROM from version 6.0.0.1022 to version 6.1.0.1002, the Intel AHCI bios also needs to be updated from August 4th 2006 to the newer September 13th 2006.

JMicron from 1.06.53 to what i belive it the latest and offered by Asus - 1.06.56a, their may be an even later version.

why is that so important, i thought you wanted the fans working?

updated rom's usually have absolutely no effect. the only reason they usually update them, meaning Intel or jmicron updating the rom are for simple compatibility. new hard drives not being seen correctly, or something similar.
there has never been a real speed increase that i have ever seen from updated roms.
and if it ain't broke don't fix it.
personally i would rather have them not jack with anything they don't have to.
10-26-2006, 08:18 AM
markopoleo

Anyone read about reports that a huge batch of these boards got shipped without the fan headers being soldered on the board? I saw 2 recent "reviews" on newegg and said the fan headers was not even on the board were they said they should be in manual.
10-26-2006, 08:28 AM
Richard Dower

Which boards are you talking about?...didn't read anything on Newegg in regards the DQ6.
10-26-2006, 08:33 AM
Richard Dower

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Originally Posted by Lestat

why is that so important, i thought you wanted the fans working?

updated rom's usually have absolutely no effect. the only reason they usually update them, meaning Intel or jmicron updating the rom are for simple compatibility. new hard drives not being seen correctly, or something similar.
there has never been a real speed increase that i have ever seen from updated roms.
and if it ain't broke don't fix it.
personally i would rather have them not jack with anything they don't have to.

Lestat, you answered your own question...and updated bios ROM adds and fixes features, also i firmly belive that GB should be keeping things CURRENT.

If Asus and Intel can update the bios ROM then why can't GB?..surely Asus updated for a reason, so why shouldn't GB?

I'm hoping an updated Intel AHCI and SATA RAID bios ROM will speed up the boot time, if you've experienced the snail paced AHCI bios you'll know what i am talking about.
10-26-2006, 08:36 AM
Richard Dower

http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/200...65p_dq6/1.html
10-26-2006, 09:11 AM
markopoleo

The Ds3
10-26-2006, 09:17 AM
Richard Dower

Hmmm....i haven't lost my X-Fi in a few days, maybe they fixed it finally?
10-26-2006, 09:20 AM
markopoleo

Thats good to hear, im ordering new system with Ds3 next week and got a x-fi :D
10-26-2006, 09:41 AM
HamidFULL

Tanx guys, more problems that found from your posts and other resource :
1.fix the D9 memory issue
2.Update the Jmicron BIOS in the 965P-DS3 board
3.when set Vcore lower than 1.2250v in DS4 Vcore jump to 1.57v after reboot
4.Update the Intel RAID bios ROM to version 6.1.0.1002
5.when set Vcore in any option except normal C1E dosent work and EIST cant drop Vcore while idle
6.when set Vcore to 1.6v system wont boot in DS3
7.ram voltage being displayed as failed over +0.325v
8.intel QST dosen work properly
9.PWR_FAN isn't adjustable in any way (not through BIOS, not with speedfan, not with EZtune)
10.Intel AHCI bios needs to be updated from 4 Aug 2006 to the newer 13 September 2006
11.Speed up the boot time
12.after enabling QST, MCH temp doesnt show right

PS:Richard I correct it to +0.325v
10-26-2006, 11:07 AM
Lestat

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Originally Posted by Richard Dower

Lestat, you answered your own question...and updated bios ROM adds and fixes features, also i firmly belive that GB should be keeping things CURRENT.

If Asus and Intel can update the bios ROM then why can't GB?..surely Asus updated for a reason, so why shouldn't GB?

I'm hoping an updated Intel AHCI and SATA RAID bios ROM will speed up the boot time, if you've experienced the snail paced AHCI bios you'll know what i am talking about.

What issues? there arent any issues, i dont hear people complaining about AHCI.
Slow boot times are caused, when AHCI is enabled, not by the rom, but by the simple fact that its AHCI, and the drivers, or the lack of any drivers being installed.
But AHCI by nature isnt any faster and in some cases, as you yourself have seen slow things down. its the nature of the beast.

i had no effect in windows with AHCI enabled.
but Linux.. that makes all the difference in the world.
Mandriva 2007 will only install with AHCI installed but boot times are super fact. as fast as Linux can be i mean.
There isnt any real reason to use AHCI

my next question is why are you using AHCI there is no effect in windows by using it, and in fact you end up having to use the AHCI/Raid drivers in order to make it work. which puts you right back into the boat of the crappy jmicron drivers and controller.
but you have the Intel controller too where we DS3 users do not, so i must assume that intel's AHCI drivers are better.

in fact on the AHCI speed subject, here is a snip-it i came across.

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AHCI on: sequ. read medium: 50MBytes/s sequ. transfer rate read ahead: 55MBytes/s sequ. read core test: 74MBytes/s with Compatibility mode: sequ. read medium: 50MBytes/s sequ. transfer rate read ahead: 68MBytes/s sequ. read core test: 95MBytes/s

BUT

i do agree that there is no reason NOT to update the rom.
bios rom files are never updated in a timely manor,, n e v e r...
They'll get to it when the time comes and the rom actually needs to be updated.
10-26-2006, 11:54 AM
ooztuncer

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Originally Posted by HamidFULL

6.when set Vcore to 1.6v system wont boot in DS3

This is not correct in my situation. Right now I am running 3.8ghz in small fft's for last 6 hrs with 1.60 vcore... screen shots later!
10-26-2006, 12:59 PM
Cranox

11. More/better cpuvoltage selections between 1.600v and 1.800v ( now it go's from 1.600v directly to 1.800v , and thats a huge jump ) DS3
10-26-2006, 01:03 PM
Lestat

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Originally Posted by Cranox

11. More/better cpuvoltage selections between 1.600v and 1.800v ( now it go's from 1.600v directly to 1.800v , and thats a huge jump ) DS3

yes that would be nice but honestly unless your sub zero cooling you dont have the cooling power to keep it cool enough.
1.6v on these things creates an insane amount of heat. too much for any heatsink out there.
too much to run it safely i should say.
not ANY heatsink thats wrong to say but its way too much heat for 24/7 usage unless you have it sitting on a benching table in a very cool room.
10-26-2006, 01:12 PM
Cranox

Yes Lestat u are right when u say that 1.600v is enough with air/water but i find it silly that it jumps straith to 1.800v.
With my modded mach II i would give it 1.650v , with Dryice i give it 1.700v maybe 1.800v if the chip responds well to the voltage.
10-26-2006, 01:22 PM
Lestat

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Originally Posted by Cranox

Yes Lestat u are right when u say that 1.600v is enough with air/water but i find it silly that it jumps straith to 1.800v.
With my modded mach II i would give it 1.650v , with Dryice i give it 1.700v maybe 1.800v if the chip responds well to the voltage.

hahaha you would be using a Mach II huh ?
10-26-2006, 01:48 PM
Jodiuh

That list of fixes scares the sh1t out of me.
10-26-2006, 01:48 PM
gooface

Improve 7950gx2 support IE: where you boot up and before you even get into windows you get a screen with lines and colors, and make it so you can cold boot without stalling at windows loading screen, or stalling and not even posting, and not beeping up, and make my crucial ballistix be able to boot stable above 825mhz, because thats just pathetic for the quality of this ram.
10-26-2006, 01:50 PM
Cranox

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Originally Posted by Lestat

hahaha you would be using a Mach II huh ?

Eeuhh , yes.
For 24/7 use its on water but for benching i use a modded prometia mach 2 ( got also a nice DI tube )
Even with water it runs not so hot @ 1.580v ( Cathar G4 block )
10-26-2006, 02:43 PM
Lestat

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Originally Posted by Cranox

Eeuhh , yes.
For 24/7 use its on water but for benching i use a modded prometia mach 2 ( got also a nice DI tube )
Even with water it runs not so hot @ 1.580v ( Cathar G4 block )

so you understand when i see people say "i run 1.6v on AIR." i say bullsh|t

you benchmarked,, you have your motherboard outside of the case sitting on the bench and you have the Airconditioning running and its very cold in the room.

1.6v hell even 1.5v with these chips creates an insane amount of heat. they get as hot as my old 955XE @ 4.5ghz very hot. too hot for air.
10-26-2006, 05:14 PM
davidos

I just popped in a set of the Crucial Anniversary memory (supposed to be D9GMH) and I can't even get my system to boot at 400MHz!!!! The OCZ Plat Rev. 1 that I just pulled out of there was doing 450MHz 1:1 for 3150GHz... what a joke. I am pissed Gigabyte.... hurry up on the bios fix (if there really is going to be one) :stick:
10-26-2006, 07:25 PM
Lestat

and maybe you can tell us what voltages you are using.
and dont assume they are GMH you should really find out by asking in the Extreme Bandwidth section.

if your not using atleast 2.0-2.1v then you should be

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