With your fsbt at 1.6+ you should drop your cpu gtl to x63 or even x62.Quote:
Originally Posted by xxDayTrader
With your fsbt at 1.6+ you should drop your cpu gtl to x63 or even x62.Quote:
Originally Posted by xxDayTrader
All-rightey-then..... will give each a try. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Zucker2k
xxDayTrader;
What are your North, south bridge, and motherboard(i do mean motherboard) temps when you stress test?
According to Probe II (and this is only about 7 minutes into Prime Small FFTs):Quote:
Originally Posted by Commander_HK47
NB: 42
SB: 37
MB: 31
I've seen the NB hit 44 before but I think that was with different settings.
950. I can't POST at 1140 (even if I remove 2 sticks.)Quote:
Originally Posted by Zucker2k
For FSB 450 you should be able to run PL8 1:1 but try running everything tight; DRAM Clock Skews advanced 300 A/B, DRAM Static Read = Enabled, Ai Clock Twister = Stronger. If you jump to 1140, you should be able to run PL7 with same settings above. You can try decreasing FSB until it runs and then start bumping fsb up to see where it stops and try balancing nb and other settings to see if you can go past that point.Quote:
Originally Posted by binormalkilla
any suggestions on upgrading to a Maximus II or Rampage x48 for the 45nm quad? Is it worth it over the maximus formula x38?
Man this thread is still kicking. I just wanted to point out that it appears this board likes the 45nm dual cores. 4.4GHz on my new 8600, no sweat.
Has anyone tested whats the next best BIOS compared to 0308 since it doesnt have Q9550 E0 support in it?
0701 wasn't any better for the 45 nm quads.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChaosMinionX
I'll see what the max FSB I can run PL7. I can POST and bench PL8 (no pull-ins) but it fails Prime blended after ~45miniutes. I'll report back tomorrow most likely.....too busy to play today :shakes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Zucker2k
Before I do any of this I'm going to revert to 0308 (best BIOS?)
4.5ghz 1.352v e8500 :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by Renegade5399
ram at 1200 5-5-5-5 pl7
indeed one of my favorite boards. been through some p45s, have a dfi x48 and i keep coming back to this board. it clocks my ram higher at less volts than anything else and same w/ cpu. plus bandwidth could not be matched on any other board.
Shhh, don't tell any dfi fanboy that. I've had a few skirmishes with them on my Maximus and needless to say, it kicked ass! :clap:Quote:
Originally Posted by ZenEffect
the dfi has a whole lot more bios options. the cpu voltage stepping is supposed to be finer however i think its a sham after further testing. it can go 1.34 vor 1.36v but no matter what i did it would not go to 1.35v. the board however is supposed to be the "king" of clocking 8gb of ram but im not running that much... in the end, it was more hassle than i was willing to put up with. just trying to figure out the proper gtl's for my nb/cpu was a few hours affair.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zucker2k
maximus/rampage ftw all the way. my dfi is listed in the for sale section :rofl:
Alotta guys jump'd on the DFI wagon, then quickly jump'd ship as the bios was over there heads.
I didnt buy one but got a chance to play with a UT, it was interesting to say the least.
I got the 9450 to 3.8 with decent bandwidth, but it was alot of fighting for something not overly hard to reach.
Hi guys,
I hope you can me please?
Today I got my new Q9650 and shoved it into my Maximus Formula (Latest BIOS 1302.) Everything is ok (well apart from 2 temp sensors only working over 37*C) but that's not a problem. I just can't for the life of me though get this thing past 3.81GHz :( It will boot at 4GHz but as soon as I poke it with Prime 95, it just either freezes or BSOD's with an error "a clock interupt was not received on a secondary processor within the allocated time interval".
Now as far as I can tell this is not a CPU issue as prime95 isn't showing a fail at the time of the lockup. I've tried a load of BIOS settings within spec for this 45NM chip and my settings are currently as follows.....
FSB 422MHz
FSB-NB strap 333MHz
DRAM 1014MHz
CPU 1.30000v
DRAM 1.94v
Thanks in advance guys for your help
Regards
Orb
the bios was never over my head by any means, once you get it its pretty fast to set up as well. its just was not as fast as this board w/ my setup. on different hardware it could be a completely different story however. the gtl settings were retarded imho. they are impossibly hard to understand as it does not go by a % scale and each value will change if you change fsbt. so 1.2fsbt with 110gtl for all cores *there are 3 settings, 01, 23, and nb* would have a different voltage if it were 1.3fsbt 110gtl neither the scale of the gtl settings nor the voltage make any logical sense. you HAVE to rely on the charts or measure the voltage yourself with a voltmeter. retarded to me, grits and gravy to others i guess.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grnfinger
you do realize that once we help you you will go mod it to the rampage bios and the whole process will start all over again. :pQuote:
Originally Posted by orbiter
also you are leaving out a lot of other settings that are vital to the oc.
About the 8GB bit, I'm yet to see any board do what I've done with both my Maximus/Rampage.Quote:
Originally Posted by ZenEffect
i dont have 8gigs to test it with. thats why the "king" was in quotes because supposedly thats what it does well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zucker2k
I have gotten that a few times. Up vdimm a little.Quote:
Originally Posted by orbiter
Well I've come to the realization that this PSU can just not handle the load of this cpu over 3.6 and my 4870 oced.......
I have never ran into a problem where a pc just literally reboots, no error in prime just black screen reboot so its got to be a hardware issue. Had the same issue with my seasonic trying to get past 3.4, this one has just a tad higher amps per 12v rail so If i grab a really high dual 12v rail or single 12v rail psu hopefully my issues will be solved.
I should have bought a larger seasonic or a PC p&c but i was in a rush and needed a psu right away. Guess this antec can server duty to power on my mach 2 from now on.
Any reccomendations? MY seasonic was specced at 1 16A 12v rail and one 17A 12v rail, the trio got me stable to 3.6 with 3 19A 12v rails but i'm guessing i need higher amperage and less rails at this point.
Hi I need help please to overclock Q9450 which I have managed to overclock to 3.21GHZ but cannot go any higher as really I am not sure what I need to do, and unfortunatly I dont have the time to do the trail and error approach as I have a young family and my wifes giving me what for for spending hours on my pc!
I have flashed my Maximus formula to Rampage and I am using bios 601 .
I have Corsair Dominator ddr2 1066 ram
I would like to get 3.4 or 3.6 ghz is this possible on air cooling?
Any help or settings would be greatly appriciated!
My settings
Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8.0
FSB Frequency : 400
FSB Strap to North Bridge :400
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1066MHz
DRAM Command Rate : auto
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay :5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime :15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : auto
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 55 DRam clocks
Write Recovery Time : auto
Read to Precharge Time : auto
Read to Write Delay (S/D) : auto
Write to Read Delay (S) : auto
Write to Read Delay (D) : auto
Read to Read Delay (S) : auto
Read to Read Delay (D) : auto
Write to Write Delay (S) : auto
Write to Write Delay (D) : auto
DRAM Static Read Control: auto
Ai Clock Twister : auto
Transaction Booster : auto
CPU Voltage : auto
CPU PLL Voltage : auto
North Bridge Voltage : auto
DRAM Voltage : 2.1v
FSB Termination Voltage :auto
South Bridge Voltage : auto
Loadline Calibration : auto
CPU GTL Reference : auto
North Bridge GTL Reference :auto
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : auto
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : auto
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : auto
SB 1.5V Voltage : auto
NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU VOlt
Voltiminder LED : enabled
CPU Spread Spectrum : Auto
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Auto
Advanced CPU Configuration
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8.0
C1E Suppport : Disabled
CPU TM Function : Auto
Vanderpool Technology : Enabled
Execute Disable Bit : Enabled
Max CPUID Value Limit : Disabled
USB Configuration
USB Functions: Enabled
Legacy USB Support : Auto
vDroop Mod / vCore Mod / EPU Mod
Yes I understand :) Although is flashing the BIOS to Rampage anymore difficult than a normal flash?Quote:
Originally Posted by ZenEffect
Also please advise which settings are required for your help, I will supply all that's needed.
Thank you
Regards
Orb
I've actually had the cpu voltage up to max (1.3625v) but I don't think it's the chip that's giving up the ghost as the moment my computer freezes Prime95 is still showing green icons for each core.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zucker2k
Regards
Orb
Flashing the bios is rather easy, Go to page 1 for info on how to and files you will need for flashing, 0308 is better for memory bandwidth, 0701 seems to give better video performance although it may just be better for ATI.
The only bios that oced halfway decent for me in the maxximus variant was 0907, rampage clocks higher and offers more memory performance/stability tweaks. Going from maxximus to rampage is reversible should you so choose to go back.
I just tried to flash the my bios following the instructions however im having problems in that when i get to the DOS prompt in input the code I keeps saying BIOS file not readable. I also tried via EZFLASH which I've done many times previous and that didn't work either. Something about incorrect BIOS :( I was trying to update to BIOS 0403.Quote:
Originally Posted by chew*
You are using afudos.exe right? Make sure you are at stock settings when you DL the bios and try to flash it and use this command in afudos.Quote:
Originally Posted by orbiter
AFUDOS /iRF0219.rom /pbnc /n
Obviously you will want to insert your bios files name in place of RF0219.rom or rename it to that......
You could have a bad floppy, I flashed from a bootable USB. If your not sure what the name of your bios file is while in dos just type DIR and hit enter.
EZ flash will not work until you force the rampage bios with afudos...........And under no circumstances should you flash from windows and never ever power off while flashing, sometimes it will seems like it hangs, just wait.
You have to use afudos because you are doing a force flash. If your using a floppy the problem you are having is a floppy is 1.44mb and the bios file is 2.0mb........
Quote:
Originally Posted by chew*
Many Thanks chew :up:
I was using the wrong file name for BIOS :eek: I'm running the 0701 bios now thanks, so I'll check all my voltages and give this BIOS some stick to see if I can get 4GHz+ anymore stable on the Q9650. If not I'll be back on to you guys :yepp: :)
Thanks again
Orb
OK fellas, still having problems after flashing to BIOS 0701 :( Same Issues really as with the Maximus 1302 BIOS. Got everything reasonably good at 3.81GHz but at 3.9GHz or above the system either just doesnt boot or crashes as soon as I poke it with Prime95 etc. Here are the BIOS settings I'm using right now....Hope you guys can spot something in there? I greatly appreciate your assistance :)
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
CPU Ratio Control : auto
FSB Frequency : 422
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2- 1014
DRAM Command Rate : 2n
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : auto
Write Recovery Time : auto
Read to Precharge Time : auto
Read to Write Delay (S/D) : auto
Write to Read Delay (S) : auto
Write to Read Delay (D) : auto
Read to Read Delay (S) : auto
Read to Read Delay (D) : auto
Write to Write Delay (S) : auto
Write to Write Delay (D) : auto
DRAM Static Read Control: auto
Ai Clock Twister : auto
Transaction Booster : auto
CPU Voltage : 1.30000v (tried max also 1.3625v)
CPU PLL Voltage : auto
North Bridge Voltage : 1.45v
DRAM Voltage : 1.94 (tried aslo 2.1v)
FSB Termination Voltage : auto
South Bridge Voltage : auto
Loadline Calibration : auto
CPU GTL Reference : auto
North Bridge GTL Reference : auto
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : auto
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : auto
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : auto
SB 1.5V Voltage : auto
NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU VOlt
Voltiminder LED : Enabled
CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled
Advanced CPU Configuration
CPU Ratio Control : auto
- Ratio CMOS Setting :
C1E Suppport : Disabled
CPU TM Function : Auto
Vanderpool Technology : Disabled
Execute Disable Bit : Enabled
Max CPUID Value Limit : Disabled
USB Configuration
USB Functions: Enabled
Legacy USB Support : Auto
Thanks for your help
Kind Regards
Orb
Hey guys,
I flashed my Maximus Formula to Rampage a while ago to get higer oc and I did. (533*8 @1.38v)
I was just wondering which (mobo-)drivers would be best? (Rampage or formula, if there is any difference)
Vdimm is memory volts; you either have an unstable ram oc or your ram is defective. Test the failing oc with memtest 86+ and see if it passes.Quote:
Originally Posted by orbiter
Hi zucker2kQuote:
Originally Posted by Zucker2k
I can't find Vdimm in my bios it just says DRAM volts which i have set at 1.94v. I have treid them at 2.1v but that makes no difference to the OC failing. Everest is reporting DIMM as 2.05v and DIMM VTT at 1.02v.
Am I just looking in all the wrong places for this Vdimm?
Thanks again
PS just tried 2GB brand new Corsair ram still no luck :(
Orb
Here are a few things to try......First lets set cpu ratio control to manual and set it to 8.
You said your cpu is stable at 3.6 so lets see if we can get it stable at 3.6 with higher FSB, etc process of elimination. Try 450 FSB X 8 multi.
Also OCZ ram should be set to advance 300ps channel A and B.
Static read = disabled
AI clock twister = Lighter.
Transaction booster = manual
Performance level = [7]
set Vdimm 2.12-2.14 aka dram volts
Zucker is correct, I'm willing to bet without those memory settings above you will fail memtest in test 5 ;)
Trying those settings now. Also can i run memtest on vista x64?Quote:
Originally Posted by chew*
Regards
Orb
System wont boot with those suggested settings my friends :( not even with ram lowered to 901MHz.
With all those settings or just the ram, settings, etc 450 fsb x 8
Memtest runs in dos........
System won't boot with all those settings chew :(Quote:
Originally Posted by chew*
Increase Performance level to 8 or 9, should boot after thatQuote:
Originally Posted by orbiter
Nope I think its the FSB go back to your tested stable OC or change to 9x400 and use those settings for the ram and let me know if you boot ok. If it boots fine then its likely cpu/motherboard holding you back with fsb and we will have to tweak voltages to get it stable at a higher fsb.Quote:
Originally Posted by carepolice
I was this close to throwing in the towel on this oc, going back to my 9*400 setup and just leaving it (because I could run lower settings and got lower temps). Instead, with some new-found confidence from some articles on Anand, I'm gonna stick in there (for now ;) ).
Before I go nuts, I have a couple questions I'd like some opinions on:
1. Asus ProbeII - is it reliable for mobo and NB temps and, if so, what should be my target temp to keep them both under?
2. Is it likely that Vista64 "issues" could cause failures in Prime95? If not "cause" them, could it be a contributing factor?
I ask because on and off for the past couple weeks I've had an issue where it's as if Vista is alt-tab'ing my keyboard. For instance I could be typing this reply then my cursor disappears, the boarder around this window ghosts out {like they do when you jump from one window to another} then it would jump back again and part of the word/sentence I was typing wouldn't be there from when this window was 'deselected.' - When I'd go into taskmanager, all the tasks in the applications tab would be jumping around as well. It's probably time for a format/OS reinstall anyway but I wonder if it could have anything to do with my cpu crapping out during Prime. EDIT: i double checked my established run-time for defrag and that's not it.....even though my pc kinda acts like that's what's happening. Re-EDIT: I might have tracked it down to a PDA/Outlook appointment reminder/sync. problem.
3. Does increasing FSB Term. Voltage (VTT) impact CPU temps and NB temps or mostly just one or the other?
.....as always......thanks. ;)
Well I went ahead and flashed 0308, but I still can't POST at 475 with PL7. Tonight I'm going to test other FSBs with PL7 and go from there.
I was 1 hour OCCT stable with PL8 at 475*8 with lower VDIMM and NBV. I'm going to try lowering voltages on NBV and FSBT until I'm unstable, and begin tightening RAM timings as well.
After finding a fully stable low voltage solution I'll start testing PL settings.
I guess it's possible that some Maximus Formulas don't have a high enough binned X38 to run as high of a performance level as the native Rampage Formulas/other flashed MFs.
OK guys, I've loaded my max OC (3.81GHz) with all my previous settings apart from the new ones you advised chew and still booted ok with those.
Currently temps are good although NB is a bit warm at 50*C idle.
BIOS - vcore 1.25000v / Everest 1.26v
BIOS - Dram 2.04v / Everest 2.16
NB - 1.49v
SB - 1.09v
Thanks for help chew..What next my friend?
Regards
Orb
OK so now it wasn't the ram timings holding you back, its cpu/mobo.....
There are a few voltages that can get you stability. I will list them all.
Leave SB voltage alone.
NB voltage up to 1.55 *edit* if your chip is 45nm use max 1.45v
Cpu PLL up to 1.7
FSB term voltage ( I don't need this but maybe one of the other guys have some input and max safe setting ) it hasn't done anything for me...
Cpu voltage up to 1.55
Try all those volts at those settings and try to boot, If you do boot start backing off each voltage again until you cant boot, this will help you determine which voltage is the culprit limiting your OC. Once you find the culprit you can fine tune it to pass prime.
Maximus X38 is 45nm quad limited.Quote:
Originally Posted by orbiter
425-430 FSB seems to be the limit, there are few rare exceptions but not many. Thats why I bought a MIIF
Rampage bios will not resolve this issue......
Thanks chew, please note though that I am using a 45nm cpu so should that be it's max voltage of 1.3625v? also I'm not even sure myself of max safe PLL? please advise.
Regards
Orb
I think save voltage for any cpu is .20-30 over stock vid....temps depending. Not sure what 45nm is for VID.Quote:
Originally Posted by orbiter
/\
I think grn knows something i don't, never used 45nm myself.
Ahh so it's my mobo you think Grnfinger and not the chip?Quote:
Originally Posted by Grnfinger
If so would it be worth me buying a Maximus Formula II and how much more could I possibly expect from it and my new Q9650? I was actually hoping for 4.1GHz out of this system before I paid £440 for the cpu so I'm a tad dissapointed to be honest.
Regards
Orb
Hi again guys,
After running Prime95 again with new Rampage BIOS just to test for any stabilty changes, I'm finding that I can't run Prime now for half the time I could with the Formula BIOS (1302) :( and I can't seem to flash back, as I keep getting an error saying "ROM file size does not match existing BIOS size". I've got the maximus BIOS file on the same flash drive I used to flash to Rampage and have inputed the correct code, but still get the error. Please could you advise?
Thanks
Orb
are you using afudos and following these steps?Quote:
Originally Posted by orbiter
AFUDOS /i**INSERT*BIOS*FILENAME*HERE** /pbnc /n
Quote:
Originally Posted by chew*
Yes... Exactly the same procedure as I used to flash it to the Rampage and from the same USB drive with the same files on it + the 1302.ROM
Orb
My Q9550 would not boot past 426FSB on MAximus X38 board...Quote:
Originally Posted by orbiter
My Q9550 will boot on 490FSB on Maximus II Formula, thats why I bought it.
http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/f...inger/cpuz.jpg
Try grabbing an older different bios from asus's site and reflash, make sure it's a bios that supports 45nm however. make sure you DL it at default clocks....Quote:
Originally Posted by orbiter
I've finally given in to this fact and I'm shopping the Maximus II and Rampage x48. How does the Rampage x48 fare with the 45nm quads? I'd rather get that than a p45.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grnfinger
OK chew thanks.. Still fiddling with 0701 right now though just incase there's something I've missed :)Quote:
Originally Posted by chew*
Regards
Orb
Both board have there strengths and weakness.Quote:
Originally Posted by MJR
Rampage will serve you well, If cost is not a factor then grab a Rampage for sure.
I've now got a tad higher guys with the rampage BIOS... 3.82GHz with a bit of extra CPU voltage 1.3200v and Primed for 1hour without fail :)
Grnfinger.. Do you think the Rampage Formula or Extreme board would hold up better than the Formula II for a Q9650 when going for 4+GHz?
Kind Regards
Orb
the nb and pwm area are better suited for quad 45nm on mfII however the rampage x48 has been known to clock 45nm quad beyond 500fsb as well. i guess its really the choice should boil down to whether you are going to run crossfire or not. personally i would take the rampage as you can run tighter settings.Quote:
Originally Posted by orbiter
Quote:
Originally Posted by ZenEffect
Thanks for the info there Zen :up:. Is the Rampage Formula a better bet than the Rampage Extreme? I'm not really bothered about Xfire or Sli as I'm quite happy with a single card. I just want the best board I can afford right now as I'm gunna give i7 a miss especially after just buying my Q9650.
Thanks again
Orb
Rampage Xtreme is DDR3Quote:
Originally Posted by orbiter
Rampage is DDR2
Both are stellar boards, Xtreme is the top dog for sure, if you can afford the board and ram, get it.
Rampage vs Maximus II Formula..
Zen is correct it boils down to personal choice,
Clock for clock they perform about equal, BUT MIIF runs cooler so for air its a wise choice. NB, FSBT, PLL and vCORE all require less volts on a MIIF.
Rampage runs much hotter, the NB requires alot more juice, Ram can be run alittle tighter...My secong MIIF was supposed to be a Rampage but Asus drop'd the ball on my RMA, so I cant do my side by side:shakes:
Bottom line, take some time to educate yourself about the pros/cons of both boards. Decide what you want out of the board and make your choice based on YOUR opinion, in the end thats all that matters...your happy with your hardware.
Grn can you suggest a ram kit that excelled really well with this board? 2x2g preferably
Best kit I used on this board was Corsair Dominators vers 1.1 handpicked Micron D9GMH ic's :DQuote:
Originally Posted by chew*
GSkills' 8500 kit is good to about 1140-1150MHz, 1170MHz if you relax the timings and pump the volts to 2.25
There 8800 kit it very good, 1.8volts for 1130MHz, they max out avout 1150 or so, alittle higher if you get a cherry kit.
Muskins XP-2 8500 max out at about 1175MHz
I hear good things about Mushkin Redlines but never bought them :shrug:
ZenEffect might be a better person to ask, he has done some nice things with a few different kits.
If all goes as planned, I should have a Rampage soon... this 430fsb wall is killing me!Quote:
Originally Posted by Grnfinger
EDIT: Damn!!! I went to get the open-box Rampage I saw on newegg and they were gone! Guess I'll be getting a full retail version, huh. Either way, no turning back now.
I might be interestd in your board, you ship to Canada ?Quote:
Originally Posted by MJR
I'll hit you up on PM when there working
Ok brilliant, thanks for the advice Zen :up: I'm not going Xfire or SLi however I might upgrade to a XFX GTX 280 XXX if I can find one or go GTX295 in after I get the new board.Quote:
Originally Posted by ZenEffect
Thanks again
Orb
Yea I for got a about the Extreme being DDR3, so I'll take a closer look at the Formula II and the Rampage, see how the cash situation pans out :) although I like the idea of less voltage and heat on the Formula II.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grnfinger
Thanks again very much for all your help you guys, you've helped a lot. I'm sure your see me again once the new board arrives in a few weeks.
Kind regards
Orb
what did you get your dominators up to? i was able to max my crucials out at 1333 5-5-5-5 :D now its time to pull my mushkins out of the freezer.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grnfinger
you should consider what kind of board you are going to get though whether it be xfire or sli, the reason is you can always add another video card once they become obsolete and you would most likely catch up to the newest revision (whenever that is) as far as performance without having to spend alot of money all over again.Quote:
Originally Posted by orbiter
Are you using the blue slots or white? Have you tried the other? What about going tighter on the PL (6)?Quote:
Originally Posted by binormalkilla
I think I asked this before, but don't remember if you responded (I'm sorry if I missed it): which OCZ do you have? AFAIK there are different revisions, and they use different vdimm. I didn't see a revision number on mine, but the rated vdimm is 2.2v. Are yours the same?Quote:
Originally Posted by chew*
I tried both slots when I tested 2 sticks. I didn't try PL6.....I would be certainly surprised if it would post at 6 but not 7. I guess it's worth a shot though....Quote:
Originally Posted by t_ski
i know where u can get a dfi lt x48 for cheap :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by orbiter
Everybody keep saying this board likes the memory tight. I was able to get my ram up to 1081 at PL6 :D I had to drop down to PL7 when I tried to get it over 1100 :(Quote:
Originally Posted by binormalkilla
Quote:
Originally Posted by t_ski
Mine are 2.2v rated dimms, they are rather new....., 6 will not post with this ram, I have only used the slots closest to cpu for now as i'm on bios 0701 and working on my 3d scores, I will go back on 0308 and tackle bandwidth with ram once i'm done and try both slots.
Here's all air 18K 3d06 with cpu @ 3.6 and single card 512mb 4870........Still running untweaked OS.
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=9583276
Thanks chew*
hi guys,
long time since i don't look for this and hope anything came out.. is there any heatsink which fits the Maximus/Rampage Formula SB? thanks in advance for your help :)
Checkmate grn ;) although your ram bandwidth has me blown away, 0701 sux for memory bandwidth....so bad I didn't even screenshot everest....I'll retry with 0308.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grnfinger
http://members.cox.net/chewxs/4124%2...01m%20done.JPG
Mine was done on 308 bios.Quote:
Originally Posted by chew*
I wish I still had the board, I might buy one from the for sale section here, I miss my Maxi-Page:rofl:
On a brighter side got a nice package today
http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/f...r/DSCF0201.jpg
Nice how much that run you? I was offered one new never used for $350, so freaking tempted. My single 4870 is a beast, Hopefully the OC gods are with you and that clocks like my 4870, 875/1100 air ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Grnfinger
BTW was just messing with yah above I was a hair slower than you at same clocks ;) Likely ram, I needed like 75mhz cpu speed to beat ya or the os tweaked to hell and SP1. 75mhz was easier.
Card cost a cool 385 shipped, bought it from Gautam figured it was a safe deal.
Itching like a junkie to test the card out but sadly no waterblock yet...I might run it on air (sacrilege) to see what it can do for a few days.
Looks like it's Xmas time all over again for both of us grn, Look what AMD sent me ;)
http://members.cox.net/chewxs/week48.jpg
thinking about going green here...Quote:
Originally Posted by chew*
do me a favor chew and take a pic of the back of the cpu. i want to verify that 920's and 940's have 940 pins and not 938 like the am3 parts.
I got a couple pics of the internet from a reliable source take a look, when I open the box I'll take another. That gigabyte board looks sweet for that chip btw ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by ZenEffect
AM2 left AM3 right. Even though the socket is pinned in the corner for AM3 they arent using it, at least not yet.
http://images.hardware.info/news/phenom-am3-back.jpg
Lets see some pr0nQuote:
Originally Posted by chew*
I have been waiting to see what AMD can do this time around.
My FX-60 was the last AMD chip I bought and it kick'd a$$
ah, good.
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f2...cture002-4.jpg
pr0n mabye tonight or tomorrow.
Yah I will have pr0n soon, board wasn't avaialble that I wanted to use..will be here monday...I will have pr0n in the highest sense as well, sockets easier to insulate :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Grnfinger
Its lonely in here grn maybe this will convince you to grab another board.
http://members.cox.net/chewxs/4230%20pi%201m.JPG
Hey Grnfinger have you run Vantage with your shiny new 4870X2 yet? When you get your waterblock installed I'd like to see what OC you get on it. BTW, check out my little mini-review of the XSPC Delrin full coverage block. I have quite a bit of temp data there.
My max bench stable OC is 862/1000 (maybe more on memory, haven't tried yet.) I'm still testing 24/7 gaming stability...I originally thought I was good at 852/1000, but I'm getting a hard lockup and artifacts every so often.
I'm thinking real hard on grabbing one from the 4sale section, I really miss the board, it was alot of funQuote:
Originally Posted by chew*
I hope to atleast run it this weekend on air, I will look at the block you recommended today.Quote:
Originally Posted by binormalkilla
I have 2x mcw60s on my 4870 x2; benching at 842/1000 and closing in on 25k '06. See sig.
zucker is that a 1gig or 2g, any idea how much diff it makes point wise?Quote:
Originally Posted by Zucker2k
It's the 2GB x2 card, I have no idea what 2x 4870 1GBs do.Quote:
Originally Posted by chew*
would prolly not make a difference unless you're gaming at > 1920x1080, but I guess with GPUs its always the more, the merrier. I didn't even know there were 1Gb versions, isn't the standard amount on the 4870 1Gb meaning the X2 would need at least 2Gb to rival 2 seperate HD4870s?
Heh, the 4870 512mb is the standard version, the 1gb is the step up.....I just looked though, I guess they don't make a 1gig 4870 x2.....I was assuming they did based on single 4870's :(Quote:
Originally Posted by les_paulde
If not to much hassle would you mind taking a pic of the card with the MCW60's mounted.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zucker2k
I'm block shopping now and I have 1 MCW60 on the shelf so another would do untill I grab a full coverage.
And whats your opinion on the CoolerMaster HAF case? I see you have one and I'm looking for a new case for my i7 build, looking to mount a PA120.3 and PA120.1 internally
Thanks
I'll do that sometime tonight or early tomorrow morning, it's really a straight forward strip and slap on kinda mount, except for removing the outer mounting shell of the mcw60s. The card is naked and actually running way cooler than before as it seems the heat from the cores were spreading to the metal shell of the stock cooler. About the HAF, I couldn't recommend a better case for either aircooling ([HAF is actually High Air Flow) or water cooling, in the price category. Highly recommend and you'll be blown away by how much space you have to work with. I got loads of crap in mine. :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by Grnfinger
Edit: How do you guys get your wives to become overclockers? Please, please do tell. :)
Grnfinger, just to warn you, i7 is like a nuclear reactor.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grnfinger
I recommend a dedicated loop for the CPU with a 120.3
I'm on a 120.2 in a dedicated loop right now and at 1.43v I'm getting up to 80C under Linpack full load.
Crazy hot!
Looks like its time to shift from computer watercooling equipment to High powered pumps with performance car radiators and window sized fans. It's been done before. Works better IMO anyway, larger surface area for cooling and makes a longer pass ( has more time to be cooled ).Quote:
Originally Posted by zlojack
Thanks for your time, if the blocks look decent I'm going MCW60'sQuote:
Originally Posted by Zucker2k
I like the case as well wanted to hear some feedback from an actual owner, now you have convinced me.
Getting the wife to play ball was easy, she actually wants to spend time with me :rofl::rofl::rofl:
Last run of my 3870X2....well maybe last run;)
http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/f...5FSB_22127.jpg
Thanks for teh info, looking at 120.3 for CPU and full coverage block for mainboard, and then a PA120.1 or a MCW220 for teh gpu depending on temps is the plan, if required I can make concessions.Quote:
Originally Posted by zlojack
Is that Mushkin Tri Channel ram any good Jack?
Here Grnfinger, I forgot to post a link of the mini-review on the XSPC block. I'm really enjoying it....especially for the price. I already had 2 MCW60s, but after buying the Caldera block it would only be ~50 away from the XSPC, so I opted for it.
I'm really glad I did too, as it keeps all of the components very cool.
Here are some pics:
http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/3...board01yk0.jpg
http://img294.imageshack.us/img294/1...board01te3.jpg
No problem, and impressive run with that quad of yours, and a 3870x2. I have 25k in my firm clutches now. A little bump in clocks should push me over the edge.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grnfinger
HHmmmm....I should install 06 on my rig. I haven't even run it since I got my 4870X2.
Bah! I'm getting that openal32.dll error in Vista x64.......I thought I just had to reinstall openal, but it's not working. I'll post results as soon as I get the bench working.
Ok I have it figured out. I'm currently running 06. It seems that it's more stressful on the GPU than vantage, as I have hard locked twice in FireFly Forest at 852 MHz and 842......now I'm backing down to 837. I was stable at least at 852 in Vantage......maybe even higher :confused:
Yep it just looks like good old fashioned instability in FireFly Forest. It's a bit strange considering that I'm stable much higher in Vantage, but no worries.
My 4870X2 runs so cool with this block.....it's just begging for voltage. I really don't have the steady hands to volt mod (or the balls TBH), so I guess it's BIOS mod or nothing (which most likely means nothing.)
I need to clock this CPU higher.....score isn't very good compared to others.
http://www.overclock.net/attachments...-475x8-pl9.jpg
"Bigger Rads" Exactly what I was talking about all last year. I did most of my water cooling test on a chiller based on American GM big block heater cores. I used one big one from my 64 Eldorado in a series w/ a few more of same size. I also set a few in a water bath chiller. So my 2nd thought was exactly the big block 4 row flat tube copper. Now these get rid of so much heat that the next step is now to take in outside fresh air and exchaulst right back out. In the summer the heat was too much for me in a 12x16 office so I can imagine a smaller 10x12 room.
I'm building one of these i7's now and it does look like a hot overclocker.
So has anyone OCed a Q9550 on this board? I'm thinking about buying one to replace my Q6600 when those price drops kick in next week......I see people hitting 4.2 on air with some of these 45nm chips, so I should be able to do some damage with my water setup.
I'm in the process of overclocking my new E0 Q9550 on a rampaged P5E dlx (x48) and hit 4Ghz quite painlessly (471*8.5). I'm afraid temperatures seem not to be the limiting factor on these 45nms but your mobo's fsb capabilities instead, but keeping her cool is always a good idea I guess... ;) Now I need quite a lot of voltage to get her up further but I'm really curious how far I can push it. Currently at 1.36v for 4 Ghz, so I should have some headroom... I am happy in comparison to my Q6600 though, that chip was a dog that wouldnt go over 3700mhz..
What kinda temperatures are people getting here with which voltages under water as I'm not sure if mine are normal for water (idling ~41C, load ~60C)? Also I was wondering what vCore and FSB VTT should be considered safe for 24/7 use, as people's opinions on this seems to vary greatly.
cheers!