Some updated GSkill TCCD info and bench

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10-13-2004, 12:10 PM
Gogeta

Nice comparo p4z1f1st. Did you restart Sandra each time you changed the timings? The results don't seem to be that far apart. Interesting to see 2.5-3-4-7 edging out in front of 2.5-3-3-7. What is the RAM's max OC in dual channel at 2.5-3-4 and 2.5-3-3?
10-13-2004, 12:50 PM
kakaroto

@ Onepagebook:

Those modules you tested are PC4600. (with DDR560 on the sticker) those are other modules right?

The one you can buy are PC4400 and the upcomming PC4800.
10-13-2004, 01:50 PM
Bennah

p4z1f1st can you go any higher than 275htt? ive seen these GSkill strech thier legs easily to 300 mark ;)
10-13-2004, 01:53 PM
JWB

They are guraenteed by GSkill to do 300mhz @ 2.7v
10-13-2004, 01:58 PM
Bennah

Exactly ;)
10-13-2004, 01:58 PM
Onepagebook

Quote:

Originally Posted by RacerX

Not to ruin this thread but for a comparison here's my OCZ PC3200EL Plat. rev2 at 2x512. I max out around 280 1t on the DFI LP. Curious to see how far the GSkill can go with 1t. Might just need to test for myself. :p:

http://home.comcast.net/~phippy1/oczpc3200.jpg
http://home.comcast.net/~phippy1/oczpc32001.jpg
http://home.comcast.net/~phippy1/oczpc32002.jpg

I remember I post that before...
DDR582..:p..also..please not: I am running Dual chanel not single channel...
I also doubt how far the OCZ plat r2 can go for "dual channel":p

http://www.e04hardware.com/ddr582.jpg
10-13-2004, 02:16 PM
JWB

p4z1f1st can we see the max mhz please? and also what is the fastest they will run 7-3-3-2.5 timings? One page book is that the fastest mhz that your GSkill will run with 3-3-2.5 timings?

thanks

JWB
10-13-2004, 02:33 PM
kraggy

I just ordered a gig of pc4400 from eXcaliberpc.com 3 min. ago! They have them for sale here in the USA now!!!!! $5 for FedEx 2 day!!!!!!
10-13-2004, 02:33 PM
JWB

Stop rubbing it in
10-13-2004, 02:34 PM
Bennah

hm, thought they were on sale from friday?
10-13-2004, 02:51 PM
RacerX

Quote:

Originally Posted by Onepagebook

I remember I post that before...
DDR582..:p..also..please not: I am running Dual chanel not single channel...
I also doubt how far the OCZ plat r2 can go for "dual channel":p

http://www.e04hardware.com/ddr582.jpg

Please note that your benches are insane that I admit but remember I'm running 2x512 on a single memory controller chip not DC like yourself. The 939 chipset does and should run 2x512 better than the 754 chipset.

What we need is more numbers with your ram on a single memory controller cpu. I think the GSkill is some amazing stuff so than I assume a single stick of 512 should do over DDR600 with 1t enabled.

Look forward to getting some. :banana4:
10-13-2004, 02:56 PM
kraggy

Quote:

Originally Posted by JWB

Stop rubbing it in

Heh! I'll let ya look bro! :p:

Quote:

hm, thought they were on sale from friday?

They were supposed to be up tomorrow but I got a e-mail from eXcaliberpc.com saying they got them in. (restock alert)

Better swoop em, cause I bet they go fast!! My gig will be here monday and I'll definately post some screenies with my FX-53 on 9 or 10 multi!!!!!
10-13-2004, 10:05 PM
Flox

Hey guys,

I can´t give you new record-numbers on my NF7-S, because either my TBred or my mobo has problems with FSB>215MHz.

215@2-2-2-x is absolutely no problem, but when I rise the FSB to 217, 3DM2k1 always freezes during Lobby-Gametest, even with lower clocks of my TBred and my 9700pro.

I tried the Black Mantaray BIOS D26 XT with L12-softmod, but no improvement...so either the mod does not work or it´s my mobo. And I don´t feel like doing the L12-Bridge mod, when there should come a new S939-rig in December

But still it´s very satisfying to have 1GB in DC @2-2-2-x at 215*11.5 with my good old TBred1700+@1.71V...

Greetz, Flox
10-13-2004, 10:19 PM
Gogeta

I just ordered the same 1GB kit as kraggy from excaliberpc as well. :D

Should arrive on monday. I'll show you guys a comparison of the GSkill and some OCZ PC4400 EL Gold (2.5-8-4-4, Hynix IC's). Should make for an overclocking filled 4 day weekend. Word.

:toast:

Edit: Oh yeah, initial tests will be on a 3.0c, so I wont be able to get the RAM anywhere near its ceiling. This will give me a chance to finally break out LikwidKool's 2.4c M0 to max the GSkill out at 2.5-7-3-3.
10-13-2004, 10:22 PM
mrlobber

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flox

Hey guys,

I can´t give you new record-numbers on my NF7-S, because either my TBred or my mobo has problems with FSB>215MHz.

215@2-2-2-x is absolutely no problem, but when I rise the FSB to 217, 3DM2k1 always freezes during Lobby-Gametest, even with lower clocks of my TBred and my 9700pro.

I tried the Black Mantaray BIOS D26 XT with L12-softmod, but no improvement...so either the mod does not work or it´s my mobo. And I don´t feel like doing the L12-Bridge mod, when there should come a new S939-rig in December

But still it´s very satisfying to have 1GB in DC @2-2-2-x at 215*11.5 with my good old TBred1700+@1.71V...

Greetz, Flox

What about a simple L12 wire mod in the socket? Easy to put in, easy to remove.

Did you try the CPC on/off option (not sure if it's on that bios?)
10-13-2004, 11:22 PM
PnoT

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gogeta

I just ordered the same 1GB kit as kraggy from excaliberpc as well. :D

Should arrive on monday. I'll show you guys a comparison of the GSkill and some OCZ PC4400 EL Gold (2.5-8-4-4, Hynix IC's). Should make for an overclocking filled 4 day weekend. Word.

Can't wait!
:slobber:
10-13-2004, 11:39 PM
Flox

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrlobber

What about a simple L12 wire mod in the socket? Easy to put in, easy to remove.

Did you try the CPC on/off option (not sure if it's on that bios?)

CPC off is no option for me, as the performance loss is quite high. On another german forum, a guy compared CPC on/off on his NF7-S and he needed +25MHz on the FSB to equalize the performance drop from CPC off.

Perhaps I´ll try the wire mod...

Greetz, Flox
10-13-2004, 11:52 PM
mrlobber

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flox

CPC off is no option for me, as the performance loss is quite high. On another german forum, a guy compared CPC on/off on his NF7-S and he needed +25MHz on the FSB to equalize the performance drop from CPC off.

We all know that. However, it's important to see whether with CPC off you can't get higher fsb wise. That would pretty much indicate whether your board is the bottleneck there because most nforce2 boards in general do not like high fsb with 512Mb sticks CPC on...

Btw, just got an answer from GSkill. They have the F1-3200SU2-12GBLA sticks in stock as well - and that's DDR600 2.5-3-3-7 :banana: :devil: :banana: However, the price is a little bit higher: $315 vs $285 for the F1-3200SU2-12GBLE kit (DDR550 2.5-3-3-7) - now I'm trying to summarize my outgoing cash flow to allow the extra room for these ones :D
10-14-2004, 01:02 AM
Gamer

I'm not German, and my sticks have arrived :)

looking good so far.
10-14-2004, 01:32 AM
TEDY

come on compare this on DFI INFINITY NF2 ULTRA :>
10-14-2004, 03:03 AM
cargo555

I bought a gig of the Gskill PC4400 2.5-3-3-7 TCCD (2x512)

used in a DFI 250gb with 9/12 modded BIOS
3400+ Claw CG 1mb
single channel

2x512mb in Dimm-slots1&2 ......at any memory clocks higher than 245mhz (DDR490) CPC 1T, regardless of timings, memtest looptest#5 gets thousands of errors around 96-97%
didnt matter what Vdimm...3.1V even

are the 754mobos really that incapable of 1T command rate when using 2x512mb of memory?

when i ran each stick by itself, they were fine, 275mhz (DDR550) memtest stable @ 2.5-3-3-6 2.7V 1T
but when running both sticks toghether in DC mode, cant get past 250mhz in 1T
10-14-2004, 04:00 AM
kakaroto

Quote:

Originally Posted by cargo555

I bought a gig of the Gskill PC4400 2.5-3-3-7 TCCD (2x512)

used in a DFI 250gb with 9/12 modded BIOS
3400+ Claw CG 1mb
single channel

2x512mb in Dimm-slots1&2 ......at any memory clocks higher than 245mhz (DDR490) CPC 1T, regardless of timings, memtest looptest#5 gets thousands of errors around 96-97%
didnt matter what Vdimm...3.1V even

are the 754mobos really that incapable of 1T command rate when using 2x512mb of memory?

when i ran each stick by itself, they were fine, 275mhz (DDR550) memtest stable @ 2.5-3-3-6 2.7V 1T
but when running both sticks toghether in DC mode, cant get past 250mhz in 1T

First with 2 dimms it is not Dual Channel mode. S754 is single channel.

I orderd some of those too. I have a DFI LP UT3 too.

Try this:

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...ad.php?t=43534
10-14-2004, 05:38 AM
Flox

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrlobber

We all know that. However, it's important to see whether with CPC off you can't get higher fsb wise. That would pretty much indicate whether your board is the bottleneck there because most nforce2 boards in general do not like high fsb with 512Mb sticks CPC on...

I´ll try this later...but loosening the timings from 2-2-2-7 to 2.5-3-3-7 (achievable timings for up to DDR550) resulted in the same Lobby-freeze at FSB217.

But the whole thing doesn´t bother me too much, because the GSkill memory is intended to go into my next A64-rig...

Greetz, Flox
10-15-2004, 12:42 AM
Onepagebook

Quote:

Originally Posted by cargo555

I bought a gig of the Gskill PC4400 2.5-3-3-7 TCCD (2x512)

used in a DFI 250gb with 9/12 modded BIOS
3400+ Claw CG 1mb
single channel

2x512mb in Dimm-slots1&2 ......at any memory clocks higher than 245mhz (DDR490) CPC 1T, regardless of timings, memtest looptest#5 gets thousands of errors around 96-97%
didnt matter what Vdimm...3.1V even

are the 754mobos really that incapable of 1T command rate when using 2x512mb of memory?

when i ran each stick by itself, they were fine, 275mhz (DDR550) memtest stable @ 2.5-3-3-6 2.7V 1T
but when running both sticks toghether in DC mode, cant get past 250mhz in 1T

Yup..p4z1f1st has this problem too!
I will ask Oskar Wu if there is any solution! :(
10-15-2004, 02:09 AM
Mongoose420

Quote:

Originally Posted by cargo555

I bought a gig of the Gskill PC4400 2.5-3-3-7 TCCD (2x512)

used in a DFI 250gb with 9/12 modded BIOS
3400+ Claw CG 1mb
single channel

2x512mb in Dimm-slots1&2 ......at any memory clocks higher than 245mhz (DDR490) CPC 1T, regardless of timings, memtest looptest#5 gets thousands of errors around 96-97%
didnt matter what Vdimm...3.1V even

are the 754mobos really that incapable of 1T command rate when using 2x512mb of memory?

when i ran each stick by itself, they were fine, 275mhz (DDR550) memtest stable @ 2.5-3-3-6 2.7V 1T
but when running both sticks toghether in DC mode, cant get past 250mhz in 1T

this has been a known problem with s745's memory controller has it not? I highly doubt it has anything to do with the board.

anyone want to buy some XMS 256 meg sticks of bh-5 j/k( ;) pm me) :D I really would like to try this stuff out but cant justify more spending without shucking something.

Also OnePageBook, what didnt you like about the epox 9NDA3+? Didnt like the tccd chips or just funky? I think ive run into what i believe is a voltage problem above 2.6ghz that hopefully could be solved by vmods as this board really does have potential imho.

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