So they are going to go the budget route, spend $70 on a H50 and then spend another $20 - $25 on a pair good fans? That seems counter intuitive when you consider the price of a H70 is around $100.Quote:
Originally Posted by halfwaythere
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So they are going to go the budget route, spend $70 on a H50 and then spend another $20 - $25 on a pair good fans? That seems counter intuitive when you consider the price of a H70 is around $100.Quote:
Originally Posted by halfwaythere
i spent alot of time reading over the review at LAB501 and i clicked into the review comparing all the twin tower coolers. alot of good stuff, but some was a little laughable at times.
the NH-D14 is just F*ing massive, lol. until i see it in person, i guess it just wont really sink in. the surface area has to be 2-3x that of the radiator on the H70, and the price is not bad either when you think about the quality of fans you get with it too. (but honestly i would have like to see one fan be much faster with a high/med/low switch or resistor, no point getting the best heatsink around and be forced to run it silent)
i also would like to see a little more compatibility testing done, see how many motherboards or cases might run into a problem when trying to use either. the H70 is built for incase use only. it can run on an open bench, but honestly i think thats stupid and dangerous. (if it falls and takes the motherboard with it, dont need a gpu getting pulled out of its socket and fry everything). as things keep getting bigger, we quickly can run into issues with clearance. there was one test on here that already had issues with mounting the NH-D14 in a certain direction. people with a full tower might aswell go with full WC (unless they have 15 HDDs or optical drives), so mid towers is where its at for heatsinks.
I also ordered 3 fans with it :
noctua nf-p12
Papst 4412F/2 GL, 120 x 120 x 25 mm, 94 m³/h, 26 dBa
Scythe Slip Stream 120mm fan 1600rpm
and i got some other fans still in stock .
I don't know when i will receive my order though , but when i get it I will mount it on the back side to blow air inside my case (2 fans) . the top fan and PSU will be the only exhausts at that point .
curious how much my temps will improve compared to the hammer (which is doing a very good job tbh , but cant be mounted to blow air to the back of the case + its too BIG for my liking . I have a small case) .
and when improving i mean both motherboard/case temps as well as cpu temps .
I'm also replacing my psu with an antec truepower 850w at the same time , since my 560w just doesn't cut it anymore with the AMD overclocked to 4.2ghz .
Same stuff: equals a high end heatsink running on quiet fans while the H70 is at full rpm. You can call me anything you like but that in my book is a fail. What do you think it will happen if you pair some loud fans with the heatsinks?
your lack of definition for "that" is making it really tough to know what your expectations are for a cooler that provides incredible numbers for its size.
ive said this quite a few times. the features for each cooler are not the same. you do not get an Hx0 for open benching. and you will probably have bad luck fitting some of these massive twin tower coolers into some cases. or if you want to exhaust all the cpu heat away from other components you can, or if you know your gpus will be giving your cpu bad air you can run it on intake.
i have never said the H70 should or would beat top end HS/F, but it does provide benefits for many different situations that a regular HS/F may handle poorly or not be compatible with.
please list your expectations so we can respond to them clearly.
The H70 is supposed to be competing with aircooling, as opposed to dominating it.
The H50 competes with watercooling. The H70 should be dominating it. Otherwise, it would be so much easier for Corsair to make an Air Heatsink, and I bet it would sell more.Quote:
Originally Posted by lkiller123
Naww, if the H50 doesn't really compete with watercooling, as there aren't many units that fits within the H50's category on the market.Quote:
Originally Posted by BeepBeep2
By what I mean to be watercooling, I mean the ones that are shown in the WC section on XS, the custom built ones. If to say that the H50 as a WC setup, it simply sucks.
Corsair did make aircooling heatsinks, but I don't think they sold well.
Quick and dirty open bench test:
Setup:
i7 980x @ 4000mhz (160x25) with 1.225 vcore.
Full load test (crunching WCG HFCC 12 threads 100% load)...
H50 and H70 both tested with the 2 fans supplied with the H70 kit @ 2000 rpm.
Ambient temp 21 Celcius.
Max core temp after 1 hour in Coretemp 99.7 x64:
H50: 59 Celcius
H70: 52 Celcius
Improvement?
Yes! :up:
Notes:
The hoses on the H70 are shorter than the H50:
H50 hose length 29cm.
H70 hose length 21cm.
The supplied fans are noisy at 2000rpm!
7C? Very impressive. I need one! :D
can you do us a quick favor and run the H50 using the H70 fans?Quote:
Originally Posted by Biker
H50 and H70 both tested with the 2 fans supplied with the H70 kit @ 2000 rpm. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Manicdan
Slight mistake: fans are running at 1980 rpm not 2000 as I thought....
Testing at higher vcore now...
thanks for the results Biker , much appreciated
does anyone know how much CFM the default corsair fans have ? I mean the ones which come with the H70 set . the H50 set has fans with following ratings apparently :
"consumes 2.2W when running at 1700RPM and has a noise level of 29.75 dB(A). The max airflow is 59.05CFM with a static pressure of 3.57mm H20. "
But the H70 kit fans can do 2000rpm , so they are different fans .
Anyone knows ?
wow so that 7C was with the faster fans (i just read what i quoted, you already told me the answer lol)
gonna be nice to know about what speeds are needed to notice an obvious performance increase with the H70
You're welcome :)Quote:
Originally Posted by CrimInalA
It says on the box the fans are 50 / 61 CFM @ 1600 / 2000rpm; static pressure is 1.8-2.3mm and 26-31.5 dBA per fan...
Has anyone seen a detailed drawing with the physical dimensions?
No but the measured dimensions of the rad are 120 x 152 x 48mm...Quote:
Originally Posted by miahallen
TEST 2:
Setup:
Open bench
i7 980x @ 4000mhz (160x25) with 1.2625 vcore.
Full load test (crunching WCG HFCC 12 threads 100% load)...
H50 and H70 both tested @ 1980rpm push / pull with the 2 fans supplied in the H70 kit.
Ambient temp 21 Celcius.
Max core temp (hottest core) after 20 minutes in Coretemp 99.7 x64:
H50: 62 Celcius
H70: 56 Celcius
Still looking good :up:
No more time for testing today... have to go to work :eek:
OMG 20 rpms off. Epic fail!:p: Joking aside, thanks for the test. You provided more useful information than many professional reviews and 4 pages of forum posts combined.Quote:
Originally Posted by Biker
I don't see whats useful at that vcore and those temps. For that amount of noise they better perform. Anyways waiting for someone who will really push the limits on an Bloomfield. Gultowns are known to run cooler at similar voltage. And use at least Prime for crying out.
Very true...
I will perform the same test on a 920 when I get back from work in about 7 hours... ;)
Biker, if you've got the time and a install of windows you don't mind BSD'ing will you find out if your D0 has a new limit when under the H70? If you can't that's fine, your apples to apples has been great so far.
Also, are there fans with the same CFM but quiter?
check the watercooling section, they have some really good tests for best fans for a radiator at different speeds and noise. high CFM does not mean high pressure, and it might have worse real airflow.
could you test with two fans at 1200 and 1400RPM please? I like silence.Quote:
Originally Posted by Biker
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Originally Posted by Biker
looking really good ;)
for those bashing the h50 and the h70 i'd like to see one aircooler to keep an hexacore (gulftown @ 12 threads) @ 56º C full load...
but hey, if you want HEAT maybe we should try it on one of those first dualies from intel, one 940 EE :P