Gigabyte EX58-UD5/Extreme Discussion Thread

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12-03-2008, 09:35 AM
Xello

Aw man. HT on/off, turbo mode on/off, both seem to affect overclocking ability?

My time period for getting my max stable clock just got 3/4 times longer :mad:

What are people's thoughts on having HT disabled, considering what benefits may or may not be there for day to day use when comparing 8 threads to 4, i'm thinking i just might leave it off if it will help clocks.
12-03-2008, 09:58 AM
Splave

I hear ya, my thoughts are HT off turbo on for my needs :) which are 3d gaming and benching. 4.0ghz only takes 1.36vcore in bios with turbo on (4.2ghz) while I cant even boot with HT on with 1.4vcore
12-03-2008, 10:08 AM
ReverendMaynard

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bobbylite

any reason to upgrade from the f3 bios?

I'm still on f3 and see no reason to change it. All of this public bios beta testing reflects terribly on Gigabyte imo. Getting files from tweaktown that should be posted on the manufacturers website just seems ass backwards too me. But whatever, the board works great out of the box.
12-03-2008, 01:33 PM
GAR

Quote:

Originally Posted by ReverendMaynard

I'm still on f3 and see no reason to change it. All of this public bios beta testing reflects terribly on Gigabyte imo. Getting files from tweaktown that should be posted on the manufacturers website just seems ass backwards too me. But whatever, the board works great out of the box.

I am also on F3, waiting on official F4.
12-03-2008, 02:14 PM
ReverendMaynard

Quote:

Originally Posted by GAR

I am also on F3, waiting on official F4.

what's up with f3 and your setup? Sorry if you mentioned it previously, I'm at work and strapped for seconds lol.
12-03-2008, 02:23 PM
burningrave101

Is there any reason at all to go with the EX58 Extreme over the UD5 if your not watercooling the NB? The Extreme model doesn't overclock any better or offer any extra perks outside of the NB cooler does it?

Also, what does the NB cooler look like on the Gigabyte Extreme if you don't use the huge addon that goes in the first expansion slot? Do you just use the watercooling block on there and it serves the purpose even without watercooling it? Every review I've looked at either has the big expansion slot heatsink installed in the picture or it just has the waterblock.
12-03-2008, 03:04 PM
GAR

Quote:

Originally Posted by ReverendMaynard

what's up with f3 and your setup? Sorry if you mentioned it previously, I'm at work and strapped for seconds lol.

Nothing really, just the twice rebooting, its funny because it has gone away these past 2 days, wierd.
12-03-2008, 03:11 PM
flopper

Quote:

Originally Posted by burningrave101

Is there any reason at all to go with the EX58 Extreme over the UD5 if your not watercooling the NB? The Extreme model doesn't overclock any better or offer any extra perks outside of the NB cooler does it?

Also, what does the NB cooler look like on the Gigabyte Extreme if you don't use the huge addon that goes in the first expansion slot? Do you just use the watercooling block on there and it serves the purpose even without watercooling it? Every review I've looked at either has the big expansion slot heatsink installed in the picture or it just has the waterblock.

if u go extreme u go for watercooling kit.
UD5 as it is overclock well also.
I am happy as it is with my system.
did some prime at 4.2ghz for 7 hours at 1.344vcore load.
which is nice.
12-03-2008, 03:25 PM
burningrave101

Quote:

Originally Posted by flopper

if u go extreme u go for watercooling kit.
UD5 as it is overclock well also.
I am happy as it is with my system.
did some prime at 4.2ghz for 7 hours at 1.344vcore load.
which is nice.

Well what I mean is I know the UD5 overclocks well also but does the UD5 and Extreme overclock exactly the same? I realize there will always be a slight differential between two of the same boards but I was just trying to figure out if the Extreme model was more of a "cherry" pick over the UD5. In other words if I put the waterblock on the UD5 would it then be an Extreme? lol
12-03-2008, 03:34 PM
dinos22

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bobbylite

in the i7 thread it was mentioned that HT disabled is better for 3d minus vantage bench :yepp:

you will probably also see a gain in 3DMARK06 and possibly Aquamark
12-03-2008, 05:03 PM
mlai

My system wouldn't come out of suspend with BIOS F3. With the beta F4i, the system comes out of suspend (S3) just fine.....

However, with F4i my system has the tendency to hang at Verifying DMI Information (or something like that) during start up and will need to be turn off and turn on again.....
12-03-2008, 05:21 PM
GAR

Might be from your SSD's
12-03-2008, 09:41 PM
bench2die

ok I had a couple of services stopped and started them and updated my vista install (I had sp1 though) and today and last night it has worked without any hiccups **crosses fingers and hopes it stays like that** before I could repeat the problem running vistas memory diagnostic tool on the first run, I have ran it a good 5 times in a row and still booting no problems in tri channel..
12-04-2008, 12:37 AM
T_M

Yes Dino sometimes the email do come, but these days after some changes occured they are often very late after development and also sent only to a random selection of the usual people.
12-04-2008, 06:27 AM
Lukee

Quote:

Originally Posted by flopper

if u go extreme u go for watercooling kit.
UD5 as it is overclock well also.
I am happy as it is with my system.
did some prime at 4.2ghz for 7 hours at 1.344vcore load.
which is nice.

Flopper, do you mind sharing your bios settings please?
12-04-2008, 07:28 AM
flopper

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lukee

Flopper, do you mind sharing your bios settings please?

Ofc not.

Currently the beta bios has a bugg, running as I thought was 4ghz was 4.2ghz. (turbo always on 21x200 cpu-z)

set in bios,
20x200 bios f4f
turbo on
HT off.
eist, c1 also off.

qpi 36x
uncore auto.
ram auto.
loadline on
1.38125vcore.
qpi/vtt 1.235
cpu pll 1.84
qpi pll 1.18
ioh core 1.120
ich 1/0 1.58
ich core 1.140

Not sure how much my settings means to you.
I use some extra volt and havent really tuned things yet.
I bet it has a lot to do with the cpu and how well it is binned.

And maybe some see my settings and screams, darn your cpu is burning up soon hehe:ROTF:
12-04-2008, 08:31 AM
Lukee

Thank you Flopper. At least it will give me some insight. I only had qpi pll @ 1.14 so maybe that's part of my problem. How high have you gotten your Bclk?(is that what it is called?) I can only do 205 and that is with vtt = 1.35
12-04-2008, 08:34 AM
Lukee

Quote:

Originally Posted by giorgos th.

hey anybody having issues with CrossfireX?
2 4870X2 no go on the UD5....

Running 2 x 4870x2 in Xfire on the Extreme and no issues.
12-04-2008, 09:10 AM
ReverendMaynard

Quote:

Originally Posted by flopper

Ofc not.

Currently the beta bios has a bugg, running as I thought was 4ghz was 4.2ghz. (turbo always on 21x200 cpu-z)

set in bios,
20x200 bios f4f
turbo on
HT off.
eist, c1 also off.

qpi 36x
uncore auto.
ram auto.
loadline on
1.38125vcore.
qpi/vtt 1.235
cpu pll 1.84
qpi pll 1.8
ioh core 1.120
ich 1/0 1.58
ich core 1.140

Not sure how much my settings means to you.
I use some extra volt and havent really tuned things yet.
I bet it has a lot to do with the cpu and how well it is binned.

And maybe some see my settings and screams, darn your cpu is burning up soon hehe:ROTF:

Have you tried (and I apologize if I get the name incorrect) upping the CPU Clock Drive (?) from 700mV to 800mV? You'll know what I'm talking about when you see the setting, but it allowed for me to run at 195x20(turbo on) at 1.324v fully loaded.

Just a thought.
12-04-2008, 10:12 AM
Splave

"qpi pll 1.8"

is this a typo? Isnt stock 1.1, seems high to me mine is @ 1.14
12-04-2008, 10:31 AM
fornowagain

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bobbylite

"qpi pll 1.8"

is this a typo? Isnt stock 1.1, seems high to me mine is @ 1.14

Yeah stock QPI PLL is 1.1v, the CPU PLL is 1.8v
12-04-2008, 10:39 AM
flopper

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lukee

Thank you Flopper. At least it will give me some insight. I only had qpi pll @ 1.14 so maybe that's part of my problem. How high have you gotten your Bclk?(is that what it is called?) I can only do 205 and that is with vtt = 1.35

214bclk seems to be a line of defence.
I tried go over but then the clocking gets tricky.
before that, not that difficult but at 215 and up its harder.

gonna re-check my bios settings so I got them right.
12-04-2008, 10:44 AM
flopper

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bobbylite

"qpi pll 1.8"

is this a typo? Isnt stock 1.1, seems high to me mine is @ 1.14

typo, changed.

yes clock cpu is at 800mv btw.
12-04-2008, 11:02 AM
unclewebb

Quote:

Originally Posted by flopper

Currently the beta bios has a bugg, running as I thought was 4ghz was 4.2ghz. (turbo always on 21x200 cpu-z)

Is this really a bug or just how this is designed to work. When C1E and EIST are disabled, at idle, I think you get your base or default multiplier for your chip and you automatically get the +1 Turbo as well. I think the only way to have a lower multi than that at idle is by having C1E / EIST enabled.

I'm not sure if CPU-Z is 100% accurate at part throttle. It's showing half (0.5) multipliers that don't exist in Core i7. It's also doing some sort of averaging and reporting MHz based on 1/4, 1/8 and even 1/16 multipliers according to rge.

I've just done a lot of work to RealTemp to try and get it reading the multiplier correctly from Core i7. I followed the Intel directions exactly about how to correctly read the multiplier so now I just need some feedback from the Core i7 guys. Thanks.

http://www.fileden.com/files/2008/3/...alTempBeta.zip

Here's some issues that rge was finding.
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...postcount=2731
12-04-2008, 12:21 PM
ol'norton

Quote:

Originally Posted by unclewebb

I followed the Intel directions exactly about how to correctly read the multiplier so now I just need some feedback from the Core i7 guys. Thanks.

All seem to be correct with mine. (965) :up: Everest can't read the multiplier over 25X.

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