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10-06-2007, 06:54 PM
GoldenTiger

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Originally Posted by Silver Bullet

I kind of already decided, I'm going to pickup a x1950 for $100 and wait it out to see how the new cards shape up. As usual waiting seems best.

Yea I just grabbed an X1900GT for a few to tide me over until 2x RV670 probably.
10-06-2007, 07:19 PM
DeathReborn

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Originally Posted by Silver Bullet

So I'm still slightly confused ... The current 8800GTS 320MB, is faster or slower than this new 8800GT ? Do people think its worth waiting to purchase an 8800GT over a OC'd 8800GTS 320MB ?

It will definitely be worth waiting for the 512MB 8800GT compared to buying a GTS320.
10-07-2007, 02:32 AM
perkam

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Originally Posted by Silver Bullet

Geforce 9 .. I read somewhere (i forget) be around Jan '08

It's a tad later than that.

Perkam
10-07-2007, 10:20 AM
Clint

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Originally Posted by theholmboy

The cards in the pictures below are exactly scaled and as you can see, the holes are the same. The GPU placement will push the Silencer about 1/4" closer towards the DVI ports, but the Silencer comes up about a 1/2" short on a 7800 GT, at least the BFG card I had it on. Time will tell, but I believe it will work.

http://www.xmission.com/~theholmboy/7800vs8800.jpg

I'm on the same page here, I bought a new NV6 for $10 just coz I had a hunch.:D

The NV Silencer 6 is smaller and sits only on the gpu, leaving much more space for ramsinks and such....:up:
10-07-2007, 11:32 AM
theholmboy

NV Silencer 6

The NV6 does appear to be a more flexible option. I had never seen one of those before - they look just like an ATI Silencer 1 with a narrower heatsink surface. For only $10, I think it is a risk worth taking.

Anyway, I didn't figure it was worth continuing the discussion about whether the NV5 will work, since none of the advanced images let us see the bare face of the card. Since they did not follow the reference design used on the 8800GTS/GTX cards, it's a toss-up. If the NVIO chip has a stand-alone heatsink, similar to the HSI Bridge Heatsink found on most AGP 6600/6600GT's, I do think that it will work. But if it is integrated with the GPU/RAM heatsink, maybe not. I like to mod, so I am hopeful that a solution is there.

RHH
10-07-2007, 11:44 AM
Origin_Unknown

i feel a bit lost now, where does the 8800GT fit?

8800gts 320 - 8800 GT - 8800GTS 640?

is that the order?
10-07-2007, 11:54 AM
Silver Bullet

8800GT 512MB - 8800GTS 640MB (new ver.) - 8800GTX 768MB - 8800GTX Ultra 768MB

8800GTS 320MB gets dropped.

So my guess is the 8800GT is about the same speed as a 320MB and the new 640MB should be maybe 5-10% faster than the current one. If you can wait till Nov 12th, then you'll know for sure how things turn out. That or wait till Jan/Feb '08 for the Geforce 9 series to come out.
10-07-2007, 11:54 AM
Shintai

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Originally Posted by Origin_Unknown

i feel a bit lost now, where does the 8800GT fit?

8800gts 320 - 8800 GT - 8800GTS 640?

is that the order?

No. As far as I can gather. 8800GTS as we know it goes out. Both 320 and 640MB. There will be a new 640MB with more SPs maybe. But I dont see that happend. 8800GT looks too fast for that. Also 8800GTX etc will get a new version.

So think 7800->7900 move rather than fit in. 90nm->65nm. And G90 is also waiting with G93 or whatever its called.
10-07-2007, 11:56 AM
Origin_Unknown

ah, thanks guys :)
10-07-2007, 12:13 PM
NiscoRacing

Nvidia Launching New Hardware to Coincide with Crysis Release
10-07-2007, 03:45 PM
LordEC911

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Originally Posted by Shintai

No. As far as I can gather. 8800GTS as we know it goes out. Both 320 and 640MB. There will be a new 640MB with more SPs maybe. But I dont see that happend. 8800GT looks too fast for that. Also 8800GTX etc will get a new version.

So think 7800->7900 move rather than fit in. 90nm->65nm. And G90 is also waiting with G93 or whatever its called.

So a 64SP with ~600mhz core is too fast?
Where have you been hearing ANY word on performance or shader domains?
10-07-2007, 03:57 PM
turtle

Where do you hear confirmation it's 64SPs? ;)

Rumours put shader domains between 1.2-1.8ghz....Which really doesn't help with does it. :P
10-07-2007, 06:19 PM
Shaggy

I may be a potential buyer of this card. I have a small room and my computer heats it up way too much. Mostly due to the video card.

This may be the best performance/wattage choice for my 8800gts.

Will the g9 series be released like the g8 series? That is, all the top notch stuff out and the mainstream to follow a while later?
10-07-2007, 06:49 PM
Kenetixx

Will it play Crysis maxed out at 1600 x 1200 tho?

We will have to wait and see i guess.
10-07-2007, 07:24 PM
kuhla

So I was at Newegg's Lanfest2K7 I asked this rep in the EVGA booth about the 8800GT, 8900s and 9800s, G90 cores in general. He gave me this big eyed look and first asked "are you press?!?!" Apparently no one else that day had asked him such technical questions. Anyways he said he couldn't tell me anything officially and that I shouldn't post this any forums (which I bet was him just trying to make me feel special aka viral marketing) but he said the 8800GTs are going to slot in to replace the 8800GTS 320s and should overclock very well. Thats all he told me. A few hours later I tried asking the same questions of a XFX rep who was walking around. Another wide-eyes look, told me he couldn't say anything and that I would find out when "they day" comes. I asked him if that day could be today, he said no and briskly walked off :D We need more xtremesystem members at events like this to really squeeze answers outta these guys lol.....
10-07-2007, 08:01 PM
RAW-Raptor22

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Originally Posted by kuhla

So I was at Newegg's Lanfest2K7 I asked this rep in the EVGA booth about the 8800GT, 8900s and 9800s, G90 cores in general. He gave me this big eyed look and first asked "are you press?!?!" Apparently no one else that day had asked him such technical questions. Anyways he said he couldn't tell me anything officially and that I shouldn't post this any forums (which I bet was him just trying to make me feel special aka viral marketing) but he said the 8800GTs are going to slot in to replace the 8800GTS 320s and should overclock very well. Thats all he told me. A few hours later I tried asking the same questions of a XFX rep who was walking around. Another wide-eyes look, told me he couldn't say anything and that I would find out when "they day" comes. I asked him if that day could be today, he said no and briskly walked off :D We need more xtremesystem members at events like this to really squeeze answers outta these guys lol.....

Cool story! :up:

Sounds like a fun idea... :ROTF:
10-07-2007, 08:22 PM
[XC] hipno650

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Originally Posted by LordEC911

So a 64SP with ~600mhz core is too fast?
Where have you been hearing ANY word on performance or shader domains?

thats not thats not what im thinking. i am thinking that it will be basically a 65nm 8800gtx core with full 128 shaders at 600mhz that will be kept in check by the 256bit mem bus. that would put it just below the new 8800gts in performance because of a lack of bandwidth. but i believe it is going to be a good card a t a good price with low power consumption and low price.
10-07-2007, 08:23 PM
Clint

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Originally Posted by theholmboy

The NV6 does appear to be a more flexible option. I had never seen one of those before - they look just like an ATI Silencer 1 with a narrower heatsink surface. For only $10, I think it is a risk worth taking.

Anyway, I didn't figure it was worth continuing the discussion about whether the NV5 will work, since none of the advanced images let us see the bare face of the card. Since they did not follow the reference design used on the 8800GTS/GTX cards, it's a toss-up. If the NVIO chip has a stand-alone heatsink, similar to the HSI Bridge Heatsink found on most AGP 6600/6600GT's, I do think that it will work. But if it is integrated with the GPU/RAM heatsink, maybe not. I like to mod, so I am hopeful that a solution is there.

RHH

Yes, that's why I thought I might have a go at it.

Another advantage of the NV6 is that you can remove the sink itself and lapp it very nicely, the width of the mounting pins allows it to slide perfectly on a 2inch x 2inch stick that I taped sandpaper on...I did that on my last one with very good results:up:
10-07-2007, 11:56 PM
sxs112

GeForce 8800GT Final 112 Stream Processors , Clocked 1.5Ghz ,256bit ,199~249 Price
10-08-2007, 02:20 AM
perkam

WHOA !! 0_0

I thought that was for the GTS 640 !?!?!

Pekram
10-08-2007, 05:04 AM
HKPolice

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Originally Posted by sxs112

GeForce 8800GT Final 112 Stream Processors , Clocked 1.5Ghz ,256bit ,199~249 Price

Ya I find that hard to believe too, I remember seeing a post saying it has 64 SP somewhere. With 112 SP it'll beat the new 8800GTS 640MB after overclocking because of the 65nm process.
10-08-2007, 06:10 AM
RAW-Raptor22

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Originally Posted by HKPolice

Ya I find that hard to believe too, I remember seeing a post saying it has 64 SP somewhere. With 112 SP it'll beat the new 8800GTS 640MB after overclocking because of the 65nm process.

I like my GTS @ 692/1754/2040 better..... ;)
10-08-2007, 06:12 AM
sxs112

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1.600MHz core clock
2.900Mhz memory clock (1.8GHz effective)
3.112 stream processors
4.1.5GHz shader clock
5.256-bit memory interface
10-08-2007, 06:13 AM
Shintai

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Originally Posted by HKPolice

Ya I find that hard to believe too, I remember seeing a post saying it has 64 SP somewhere. With 112 SP it'll beat the new 8800GTS 640MB after overclocking because of the 65nm process.

People also tought G80 was non unified up to launch. ;)

nVidia has been quite good to keep secrets or seed misinformation on purpose.
10-08-2007, 06:14 AM
RAW-Raptor22

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Originally Posted by sxs112

1.600MHz core clock
2.900Mhz memory clock (1.8GHz effective)
3.112 stream processors
4.1.5GHz shader clock
5.256-bit memory interface

With my GPU memory overclocked I achieve a memory bandwidth of 81.3GB/s.... I doubt a 256bit bus could meet that.....

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