Can somebody answer this please:
Quote:
Originally Posted by Zolly
Can somebody answer this please:
Quote:
Originally Posted by Zolly
Odds are you could MAKE it work. However, why would you want to? I'd spend the money on a better PSU first and foremost.
Why buy O/C components with just a decent PSU?
-Ghent
I ordered this from Newegg...I hope it does better with quads than my Abit IP35-PRO does...it sems that DFI's own "transaction booster" doesn't work properly? Strange that they would include it when droop seemed quite minimal from what I've seen people in people's posts.
I will buy psu next month i just want to make it work till then.Quote:
Originally Posted by ghent915
Slightly off topic but my IP35 Pro rocks with C2D & Quad what problems were you having?Quote:
Originally Posted by ACE76
Q6600 @ 3700MHz http://s106.photobucket.com/albums/m...208%203700MHz/
E6600 @ 3760MHz http://s106.photobucket.com/albums/m...208%203760MHz/
I just got the DFI last night hooked it up & within an hour ran 525 x 7 3D stable with my E6600 on the stock Intel Heatsink!!!
Although I could run 540fsb on the IP35 Pro it was not stable & would freeze in 3D (3DMARK01, 03 ,05 06 etc) so I think the DFI will definitely run higher fsb easier however it is atm (very early days) on auto timings & significantly slower than my ASUS P5K & Abit IP35 so its going to take a lot of tweaking :D
I also had problems with CPU-Z v 1.40.8 BETA so found v1.41.0 BETA which is reporting 1.536v @ idle with the vdroop thingy enabled in the BIOS, the actual vcore set in the BIOS is 1.50v so as you can see its not drooping much & as you are probably aware is considerably less droop than the IP35 Pro.
I have only played roughly for a few hours with the DFI but so far it looks to only droop 0.02-0.03v with light ish vcore (1.50) under load which is great.
CN
Try using the PSU calculator...coz i think IMO Quads need more than 480w power:)Quote:
Originally Posted by Zolly
http://www.extreme.outervision.com/p...ulatorlite.jsp
525FSB seems to be the sweet spot. If the processor is up to the task that speed can be done with default board voltages.
Vdroop is mislabeled in the BIOS. Disabled is actually enabled.
I finally got around to placing my order for my system last night. It includes the following:
DFI P35-T2R
Q6600
THERMALRIGHT ULTRA-120 EXTREME
MX-2 PASTE
4 X 1GB CRUCIAL BALLISTIX TRACER PC2-8500
EVGA 8800 ULTRA
From my current setup I will be using the following with the new parts:
SILVERSTONE TEMJIN TJ-09BW CASE
SILVERSTONE DA750 PSU
PIONEER DVR-112 DVD/RW
2 X 150GB RAPTORS IN RAID 0
CREATIVE LABS X-FI FATALITY
AGEIA PHYSX PPU
An Antec Super Cyclone Blower will be placed under the 8800 Ultra, an Antec Spot Cool will be placed over the dimms and my Ultra 120 Extreme and rear exhaust will be Sanyo Denki San Ace 109R1212H1011 fans. I hope this system plays nice together and I have no build issues.
The latest BIOS is better than others :
http://img104.imageshack.us/img104/2...b395mhzda0.jpg
Anyone have problems with 4 x 1GB of RAM? I am having problems with 4 sticks of G.Skill 800. I can run either set I have by itself, but if I try both it starts loading Windows and restarts.
memtest86+ v1.70 is your friend and play with clk fine delay values as well.. but i have yet to test 4x1GB myself so not sure.Quote:
Originally Posted by jjk454ss
2:3 divider with 2x1GB Crucial Ballistix Tracer PC2-8500 Micron D9GMH modules. DFI LP UT P35-T2R has very tight default performance level on 2:3 divider at Performance Level = 4! So be sure to have nice Micron D9xxx modules if you run Performance level = AUTO in bios ;)
- 500mhz 4-4-4-9 AUTO sub timings with AUTO Enhanced Data Transmit/Enhance Addressing at 2.15v bios
- 535mhz 4-4-4-9 AUTO sub timings with AUTO Enhanced Data Transmit/Enhance Addressing at 2.27v bios
- 558mhz 4-4-4-9 AUTO sub timings with AUTO Enhanced Data Transmit/Enhance Addressing at 2.38v bios
- 564mhz 4-4-4-9 AUTO sub timings with AUTO Enhanced Data Transmit/Enhance Addressing at 2.42v bios
@500Mhz 4-4-4-9 at 2.15v
http://fileshosts.com/intel/DFI/DFI_...blend_load.png
http://fileshosts.com/intel/DFI/DFI_...5m56s593ms.png
http://fileshosts.com/intel/DFI/DFI_...-bandwidth.png
@558Mhz 4-4-4-9 at 2.38v
http://fileshosts.com/intel/DFI/DFI_...blend_load.png
Single 32M
http://fileshosts.com/intel/DFI/DFI_...4m09s937ms.png
Dual 32M half way
http://fileshosts.com/intel/DFI/DFI_...2m_halfway.png
Dual 32M complete
http://fileshosts.com/intel/DFI/DFI_...dual32m_tn.png
Everest Ultimate 4.10.1076 beta vs 4.10.1108 beta
http://fileshosts.com/intel/DFI/DFI_...h_1076beta.png
http://fileshosts.com/intel/DFI/DFI_...h_1108beta.png
@564Mhz 4-4-4-9 at 2.42v
http://fileshosts.com/intel/DFI/DFI_...blend_load.png
Single 32M
http://fileshosts.com/intel/DFI/DFI_...4m01s985ms.png
Dual 32M half way
http://fileshosts.com/intel/DFI/DFI_...2m_halfway.png
Dual 32M complete
http://fileshosts.com/intel/DFI/DFI_...dual32m_tn.png
Everest Ultimate
http://fileshosts.com/intel/DFI/DFI_...-bandwidth.png
Thanks for the reply. You are not talking to an expert here though:D . I did take this memory from my old machine, and I did run memtest not to long ago because I was thinking of selling it. I don't think it is a problem with the memory. As far as clk fine delay values, I will try and find some info so I can learn what to change there. ThanksQuote:
Originally Posted by eva2000
Another question. I am trying to update the BIOS, I have no floppy so I tried the WinFlash program. When I try and run winflash.exe I get this message: OnBoard BIOS Not Award BIOS!, i clikc OK and it just closes. Am I doing something wrong?
DFI has done a good job with clk fine delay auto settings. To fine tune you won't need to adjust more then a couple of notches in either direction. So for I have found for most configurations the auto values are pretty much dead on.Quote:
Originally Posted by jjk454ss
Man i want this mobo!
Omg FSBs :shocked:
I haven't been able to update my BIOS without a floppy, and I am having the same problems as number 2. It won't boot with 4GB of RAM. Can someone explain how I can flash the BIOS without a floppy? I liked the option ASUS had to flash it in the BIOS off of a USB Drive.Quote:
Originally Posted by EternityZX9
The bios will flash from a USB drive just fine. During bootup press "escape" and choose the boot device as USB.
A bit more detail on using a usb key for flashing your bios.Quote:
I haven't been able to update my BIOS without a floppy, and I am having the same problems as number 2. It won't boot with 4GB of RAM. Can someone explain how I can flash the BIOS without a floppy? I liked the option ASUS had to flash it in the BIOS off of a USB Drive.
This is the method I use,
Download HP USB Disk storage utility. Download a DOS image (Links below) and unzip.
Insert USB driver. Run HP USB Disk storage utility and select the DOS option.When prompted for an image direct it to the downloaded dos image (win98boot)
Copy the files awdflash, autoexec and the bios bin file on to your usb.
Restart with key in and go to bios.
Note: Make sure machine is set back to stock settings before flashing
Ammend
As Praz suggested. Go into Advanced options. Go to Hard Disk Boot Priority and using the numeric + key, move your usb up to the the top (1st device).
RESTART.
Should then boot up and flash automatically.
Note: There are other methods, but this has worked for me
Links here:
HP USB Disk storage utility
http://www.freebsd.uwaterloo.ca/twik...ot/SP27608.exe
If I remember, this is the DOS Image I used.
http://www.dewassoc.com/download/Win98boot.zip
RLM
Note: It's a bit of a mission the first time, but once the usb key is done, it's an easy enough exercise for future bioses
Just thinking about that 4gb issue. Given the fact the new bios 823 has separate CLK settings for each channel (4 of them instead of 2), that may well help.Quote:
I haven't been able to update my BIOS without a floppy, and I am having the same problems as number 2. It won't boot with 4GB of RAM. Can someone explain how I can flash the BIOS without a floppy? I liked the option ASUS had to flash it in the BIOS off of a USB Drive.
RLM
Just a few benches.
Would like a better stepping q6600, but still pretty damn good:)
PCMark 05 Q6600 GO 445x9 1.6v in bios. Memory Geil 8500 cas4 4-4-4-9 5:6
(Note: Not prime stable)
http://img292.imageshack.us/img292/4...rk05rlmys8.jpg
3DMark 06 Q6600 GO 440x9 1.6v in bios. Memory Geil 8500 cas4 3-3-3-10 1:1
8800 GTX unmodded 660/1050
(Note: Not far of stable. Need to do more tests and tweaking)
http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/8...markrlmmk9.jpg
445x9 PCMARK 05
440x9 3DMARK 06Quote:
CPU Feature
- Thermal Management Control: Disabled
- PPM(EIST) Mode: Disabled
- Limit CPUID MaxVal: Disabled
- CIE Function: Disabled
- Execute Disable Bit: Enabled
- Virtualization Technology: Disabled
- Core Multi-Processing: Enabled
Exist Setup Shutdown: Mode 2
CLOCK VC0 divider: AUTO
CPU Clock Ratio Unlock: Enabled
CPU Clock Ratio: 9x
- Target CPU Clock: 4005Mhz
CPU Clock: 445
Boot Up Clock: AUTO
DRAM Speed: 333/800
- Target DRAM Speed: 1068
PCIE Clock: 100mhz
Voltage Settings
CPU VID Control: 1.60000
CPU VID Special Add: AUTO
DRAM Voltage Control: 2.52v(need to check)
SB 1.05V Voltage: 1.15v
SB Core/CPU PLL Voltage: 1.95v
NB Core Voltage: 1.61v
CPU VTT Voltage: 1.60v
Vcore Droop Control: Disabled
Clockgen Voltage Control: 3.75v
GTL+ Buffers Strength: Strong
Host Slew Rate: Weak
GTL REF Voltage Control: Disable
x CPU GTL1/3 REF Volt: 105
x CPU GTL 0/2 REF Volt: 105
x North Bridge GTL REF Volt: 110
DRAM Timing
- Enhance Data transmitting: FAST
- Enhance Addressing: FAST
- DIMM 1 CLK fine delay: Current
- DIMM 2 CLK fine delay: Current
- DIMM 3 CLK fine delay: Current
- DIMM 4 CLK fine delay: Current
CAS Latency Time (tCL): 4
RAS# to CAS# Delay (tRCD): 4
RAS# Precharge (tRP): 4
Precharge Delay (tRAS): 9
All Precharge to Act: AUTO
REF to ACT Delay (tRFC): 35
Performance Level: AUTO (memset reads 6)
Read delay phase adjust: AUTO
MCH ODT Latency: AUTO
Write to PRE Delay (tWR): 13 (memset reads 12(-1))
Rank Write to Read (tWTR): 11 (memset reads 10(-1))
ACT to ACT Delay (tRRD): AUTO (memset reads 3)
Read to Write Delay (tRDWR): AUTO (memset reads 8)
Ranks Write to Write (tWRWR): AUTO (tends to default I believe at 6)
Ranks Read to Read (tRDRD): AUTO (tends to default I believe at 6)
Ranks Write to Read (tWRRD): AUTO (tends to default I believe at 5)
Read CAS# Precharge (tRTP): AUTO (memset reads 3)
ALL PRE to Refresh: AUTO (memset reads 2)
PCIE Slot Config: 1X 1X
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled
SATA Spread Spectrum: Disabled
RLMQuote:
CPU Feature
- Thermal Management Control: Disabled
- PPM(EIST) Mode: Disabled
- Limit CPUID MaxVal: Disabled
- CIE Function: Disabled
- Execute Disable Bit: Enabled
- Virtualization Technology: Disabled
- Core Multi-Processing: Enabled
Exist Setup Shutdown: Mode 2
CLOCK VC0 divider: AUTO
CPU Clock Ratio Unlock: Enabled
CPU Clock Ratio: 9x
- Target CPU Clock: 3960Mhz
CPU Clock: 440
Boot Up Clock: AUTO
DRAM Speed: 333/666 (1:1)
- Target DRAM Speed: 880
PCIE Clock: 100mhz
Voltage Settings
CPU VID Control: 1.60000
CPU VID Special Add: AUTO
DRAM Voltage Control: 2.49v(Allowing for droop -0.05 idle a further -0.04 load)
SB 1.05V Voltage: 1.15v
SB Core/CPU PLL Voltage: 1.95v
NB Core Voltage: 1.61v
CPU VTT Voltage: 1.60v
Vcore Droop Control: Disabled
Clockgen Voltage Control: 3.75v
GTL+ Buffers Strength: Strong
Host Slew Rate: Weak
GTL REF Voltage Control: Disable
x CPU GTL1/3 REF Volt: 105
x CPU GTL 0/2 REF Volt: 105
x North Bridge GTL REF Volt: 110
DRAM Timing
- Enhance Data transmitting: FAST
- Enhance Addressing: FAST
- DIMM 1 CLK fine delay: Current
- DIMM 2 CLK fine delay: Current
- DIMM 3 CLK fine delay: Current
- DIMM 4 CLK fine delay: Current
CAS Latency Time (tCL): 3
RAS# to CAS# Delay (tRCD): 3
RAS# Precharge (tRP): 3
Precharge Delay (tRAS): 10
All Precharge to Act: AUTO
REF to ACT Delay (tRFC): 35
Performance Level: AUTO
Read delay phase adjust: AUTO
MCH ODT Latency: AUTO
Write to PRE Delay (tWR): 12 (memset reads 11(-1))
Rank Write to Read (tWTR): 10 (memset reads 9(-1))
ACT to ACT Delay (tRRD): 2
Read to Write Delay (tRDWR): AUTO (memset reads 8)
Ranks Write to Write (tWRWR): AUTO (tends to default I believe at 6)
Ranks Read to Read (tRDRD): AUTO (tends to default I believe at 6)
Ranks Write to Read (tWRRD): AUTO (tends to default I believe at 5)
Read CAS# Precharge (tRTP): AUTO (memset reads 3)
ALL PRE to Refresh: AUTO (memset reads 2)
PCIE Slot Config: 1X 1X
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled
SATA Spread Spectrum: Disabled
If for some reason configuring the BIOS is preferred over using the "escape" key on this board there's not much to it. Boot with the USB key connected. In the BIOS go to boot order. Highlight the USB device. Using the + key move it to the top. Save Bios and reboot.
The escape key, sounds a lot easier. Just wasn't familiar with it. Will try that one myself:)Quote:
If for some reason configuring the BIOS is preferred over using the "escape" key on this board there's not much to it. Boot with the USB key connected. In the BIOS go to boot order. Highlight the USB device. Using the + key move it to the top. Save Bios and reboot.
If you are using Vista64, there is a hotfix that needs to be applied before you can use more than 3GB, otherwise it will BSOD on startup. I do beleive you also have to update the BIOS as well because I have applied the patch and now the BSOD I get says the bios is not acpi compliant.Quote:
Originally Posted by jjk454ss
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/929777
Update the BIOS. I had the same problem. That fixed it.Quote:
Originally Posted by jjk454ss
I would recomment getting a floppy to update the BIOS...Quote:
Originally Posted by jjk454ss
Winflash doesnt work in Vista64. Use the USB flash drive method explained by RLM above (thanks for that by the way RLM!)Quote:
Originally Posted by jjk454ss