Building a Sossaman rig?

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02-15-2009, 05:00 PM
Movieman

Quote:

Originally Posted by ibby

I think you have fallen asleep :rofl::ROTF:

No, got sidetracked with a phone call.
All 9 shots sent you bastage!:rofl:
02-16-2009, 12:48 AM
Bobsama

Hmm--how expensive would a setup be now-a-days? With an ATX board--I can't use eATX.
02-16-2009, 12:54 AM
Movieman

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bobsama

Hmm--how expensive would a setup be now-a-days? With an ATX board--I can't use eATX.

You get a $50.00 EATX case fromk Newegg..smart way to go..
then:
$30.00 board
$30.00 HS's
$45.00 memory
$60.00 cpus(maybe)
$45.00 PSU
drive,cdrw,etc..
02-16-2009, 04:16 AM
ibby

Guys since the Iwill DH800 uses the same ICS
has anyone tried clockgen ?
02-16-2009, 01:02 PM
D_A

In seven different languages, probably. These boards are exceptionally resistant to overclocking by any means.
02-16-2009, 01:18 PM
Bobsama

Quote:

Originally Posted by Movieman

You get a $50.00 EATX case fromk Newegg..smart way to go..
then:
$30.00 board
$30.00 HS's
$45.00 memory
$60.00 cpus(maybe)
$45.00 PSU
drive,cdrw,etc..

Yeah, but I have a feeling that my mom will kill me. I am limited to two computer chassis--both ATX. Hmm... I already have PSU and drives... meh. I'm guessing the ATX version is completely unavailable for a reasonable rate?
02-16-2009, 01:27 PM
ibby

Quote:

Originally Posted by D_A

In seven different languages, probably. These boards are exceptionally resistant to overclocking by any means.

Yes your right,
but i am not giving up just yet!
02-16-2009, 02:22 PM
ibby

Since every ones going to figure out what I have been upto, I will post in the open.

Past couple of days, I have been working extremly hard trying to edit / unhide options in the intel based BIOS.

But i have not had any luck.

- Below I will give you the reasoning

Please see screen shot
This is visiable to us guys,
http://www.ibby.co.uk/xs/amibcp.JPG

As you can see it has fields pre filled in, some are user selected others are "refresh only"

the ones I was intrested in were
"FSB" "Freqancy"

http://www.ibby.co.uk/xs/offset.JPG

After days atlooking at the code, I managed to figure out how to change the headings, but was unable to change the field we most needed (Access / Use)

More hunting, and looking at the code and comparing code whilst i was changing settings, made me belive and has been confimed by another source that if the settings are not in AMIBCP, then you can not change or edit any settings. - Becuase the orginal coder has not put the options in.

(well you cant access them with a high level encoder)

And most people will ask the question, why not put the settings in.
Well in plain terms the settings can just not be put in. they have to be coded to the chipset/ics cpu and other resources.

The BIOS nowadays are coded diffrently with a higher based software encoder, which is not avalible to us.

Iam not giving up, but iam sorry for letting the team down.
02-16-2009, 02:27 PM
ibby

Quote:

Originally Posted by gongo

I had no luck with setfsb, rmclock, or the u-wire mod. Keep looking, ibby! I managed to unpack the microcode from the Supermicro bios, but I guess I have the wrong tools to open the Intel bios? Not that it matters much to me, being that I don't have an Intel board and don't really intend to buy one even if we do manage to hack the bios for it.

I'm actually traveling today but later tonight I can send you "screenshots" of the bios on my board. It will actually be ASCII from a serial-over-lan console session, but it works.

If you're looking for the bios screens for the Tyan board, Phoronix has a great set here

What are you trying to achive with the microcode ?
02-16-2009, 11:18 PM
Movieman

Quote:

Originally Posted by gongo

A couple things: We mentioned the possibility of trying the Sossaman chip in the AOpen i975 board, but obviously the microcode would need updating to accept the chips... Until common sense kicked in and I realized that with the pinouts being different, it doesn't much matter if the bios can accept the chip. The other thing is that I wanted to look at the related Lindenhurst boards that are built for Nocona/Irwindale since those would be running at 800MHz fsb. Then I got sidetracked with plans over the weekend, and then I had to work today and travel, so nothing else got done.

Anyway, attached are ASCII "screenshots" of the bios taken using the serial-over-lan interface via IPMI. I couldn't take actual screenshots since I'm sitting in a hotel in Boston and the server is in the basement back home in Jersey. :eek:

Hell, Boston? How long..
I'm an hour away..and I have an extra Intel board.
PM me if your going to be here a day or so..
02-16-2009, 11:48 PM
ibby

Quote:

Originally Posted by gongo

A couple things: We mentioned the possibility of trying the Sossaman chip in the AOpen i975 board, but obviously the microcode would need updating to accept the chips... Until common sense kicked in and I realized that with the pinouts being different, it doesn't much matter if the bios can accept the chip. The other thing is that I wanted to look at the related Lindenhurst boards that are built for Nocona/Irwindale since those would be running at 800MHz fsb. Then I got sidetracked with plans over the weekend, and then I had to work today and travel, so nothing else got done.

Anyway, attached are ASCII "screenshots" of the bios taken using the serial-over-lan interface via IPMI. I couldn't take actual screenshots since I'm sitting in a hotel in Boston and the server is in the basement back home in Jersey. :eek:

I think for any part
(injecting the microcode into the BIOS is probably going to be the easy bit)

However ...... does the Aopen board meet the regulations of PMW?

The issues here I belive is, we need to make the board belive ... that its a 200FSB processor.

without having a board here (Dave) I have afew ideas :up:
02-17-2009, 12:02 AM
Movieman

Quote:

Originally Posted by ibby

I think for any part
(injecting the microcode into the BIOS is probably going to be the easy bit)

However ...... does the Aopen board meet the regulations of PMW?

The issues here I belive is, we need to make the board belive ... that its a 200FSB processor.

without having a board here (Dave) I have afew ideas :up:

Three boards coming:
Shipment Dates
Ship date Feb 13, 2009
Estimated delivery Feb 19, 2009
02-17-2009, 12:36 AM
ibby

I see!
FANTASTIC!
02-17-2009, 06:20 AM
Jaco

unplug the cord ...and get your number changed now :sonic:
02-22-2009, 04:07 PM
Movieman

OK, so we've brought in ibby who is good with BIOS's but is running into issues here so i sent a PM to a gentleman who has offerred to help.
I don't want to see him get a 100 PM's from the guys on this so I'm not naming him but it's fair to say that he is one of the best people in our hobby.
IE: If he can't figure this out no one can..;)
02-23-2009, 07:58 PM
Movieman

Anyone got the Intel white papers on this motherboard?
I had them at one time but they are gone.
Alos any board documentation or links to any of this.
Thanks!
02-23-2009, 08:13 PM
Sparky

I just saw a SE7520BB2 board for $19!
2GB RAM for $37!

Now to find CPUs and heatsinks! Unless I can rig up a way to stick two old AXP heatsinks on there :idea:

I'm tempted, if you couldn't tell :p: I would think that one of these would easily outdo a couple AXPs and an A64 or two?
02-23-2009, 08:16 PM
Movieman

Quote:

Originally Posted by SparkyJJO

I just saw a SE7520BB2 board for $19!
2GB RAM for $37!

Now to find CPUs!

I'm temped, if you couldn't tell :p:

Boards at Citrix correct? I just bought 3 last week.
and you need the special HS.. Only place in the world that has them is 19 miles from my house..They charge $25.00 to ship two of them and $20 for the two HS=$45.00/pair
I'm making a trip there in the next week to get more as that way no shipping charge to me and maybe $10.00 to ship to you not $25.00
02-23-2009, 08:29 PM
Sparky

Yep that's where the board is.

No way to stuff a different heatsink on there huh? Dang, oh well :lol2:

Board and RAM look good and cheap, and the heatsinks (through you if you don't mind) and I have an HD (IDE but it works) and a PSU. Biggest cost is CPUs it looks like, haven't been able to find much.
02-23-2009, 08:32 PM
Movieman

Quote:

Originally Posted by gongo

I just bought some ram for the soon-to-be sammy2 (blame Dave!) from eBay seller techno_bargains, 2x 1Gb for $25 shipped CONUS. At that price I decided to snatch up 4 pairs to fill the ram slots... I've bought from this guy a couple times now, honest seller, good prices, fast shipping. FYI, I don't know the guy and don't get kick-backs for referrals, just thought I'd pass along the word on good prices.

I was doing some reading in the manual for the Intel board and noticed that it has a built-in BIOS savior of sorts. It has two BIOS banks, so you just roll back to the old one via jumper if you have a bad flash. I guess the flash operation only updates the active bank (which is also settable via jumper). Cool stuff.

I'll be shipping sammy1 to my brother at school and keeping sammy2 for myself.

I did sammy1 with a Supermicro board in a Supermicro case, and I'll be doing sammy2 with an Intel board in a Intel case. I'm kinda odd that way:D

THE case to put a sammy in is a Lian Li PC62..:up:
Classey, and not bad in price..
It's the EATX version of the PC60:
$100.00
http://www.coolerguys.com/840556007340.html
Old tech now and why it's so cheap..
2-80's front, one rear.. Not enough for todays hot systems but plenty for sammy
02-23-2009, 08:37 PM
Movieman

Quote:

Originally Posted by gongo

niconoise has just listed the D0 step 2GHz Sossaman (SL9HN) for $60 each + shipping on eBay. Not a bad deal considering I paid twice as much per chip back in September for the C0 step SL8WT. A couple weeks ago there were some SL8WT listed for $30 or $40 each, but it looks like they were all snatched up.

I bought two from him for $60.00 I think..
Make him an offer he can't refuse!:rofl:
He has access to I/O plates also..
Those I can't find anywhere.
02-23-2009, 08:41 PM
Sparky

If I went with the 1.67 GHz sossamans I could do the BSEL mod to 2.67GHz - if the chips can handle that? I don't know :shrug:

Found them here for $45 each but they are in Canada so I can imagine what shipping would be. Not sure if that is $45 CAD or USD.
http://www.itxchange.com/shop/proces...9Y6598-02.html
02-23-2009, 08:44 PM
Movieman

Quote:

Originally Posted by SparkyJJO

If I went with the 1.67 GHz sossamans I could do the BSEL mod to 2.67GHz - if the chips can handle that? I don't know :shrug:

Found them here for $45 each but they are in Canada so I can imagine what shipping would be. Not sure if that is $45 CAD or USD.
http://www.itxchange.com/shop/proces...9Y6598-02.html

get the 2000's and no known BSEL mod yet but I have the best guy in the world, yes, THE best, has offerred to help..:D
02-23-2009, 08:48 PM
Movieman

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=110328758720

He's on the forum under the same name..
$67.00/pair delivered..
PM him and bypass ebay fees for him..
I bought a pair from him.. good seller
02-23-2009, 08:51 PM
Sparky

He's got more on ebay but at a higher pricepoint now $60 for one + shipping
http://cgi.ebay.com/Xeon-Low-Voltage...QQcmdZViewItem
02-23-2009, 08:55 PM
Movieman

Quote:

Originally Posted by SparkyJJO

He's got more on ebay but at a higher pricepoint now $60 for one + shipping
http://cgi.ebay.com/Xeon-Low-Voltage...QQcmdZViewItem

so you PM him, toss in MY link, tell him Movieman said to PM him for a pair and it's a done deal..
If he doesn't respond to the Pm then buy the two from my link..
Easy huh?:p:
02-23-2009, 09:00 PM
Sparky

Quote:

Originally Posted by Movieman

so you PM him, toss in MY link, tell him Movieman said to PM him for a pair and it's a done deal..
If he doesn't respond to the Pm then buy the two from my link..
Easy huh?:p:

So, if he does, $70 for CPUs, $31.50 for the board (after shipping) $36-ish for ram, and $30-ish for heatsinks. total $167.50.

Aww. Don't think I can legitimately put that in my budget. Still a good deal for people tho :cool:
02-23-2009, 09:02 PM
Movieman

Quote:

Originally Posted by SparkyJJO

So, if he does, $70 for CPUs, $31.50 for the board (after shipping) $36-ish for ram, and $30-ish for heatsinks. total $167.50.

Aww. Don't think I can legitimately put that in my budget. Still a good deal for people tho :cool:

Sorry to hear that..Most stable system you will ever see.
Why? No heat.. at 100% load I see 34C in coretemp..
cheap to run..117w at full load..
I just bought a Corsair 400w PSU for it..:D
02-23-2009, 09:06 PM
Sparky

Quote:

Originally Posted by Movieman

Sorry to hear that..Most stable system you will ever see.
Why? No heat.. at 100% load I see 34C in coretemp..
cheap to run..117w at full load..
I just bought a Corsair 400w PSU for it..:D

If I still had my internship/job I'd be all over it. Lost that in December thanks to the credit crunch and a lack of retirees from the company, so out the door the interns went.
02-23-2009, 10:54 PM
Sparky

Quote:

Originally Posted by gongo

Honestly though, it's a hard price to beat for a reasonably modern dual processor build. Heck, even building a single CPU machine for that money is good!

Yep, I know. I have to pass up deals right now tho. Lack of the job dictates my spending habits right now, plus I have a car repair bill coming that I shouldn't have had but the "warranty terms" say they only pay 7 hours worth of work on the motor replacement. Total bull, it takes like twice that amount of time to do it properly :mad: last time I'm every buying anything from those guys :down:
02-26-2009, 10:12 AM
s0lid

Oh yeeees these are back with 19$ price :)
http://cgi.ebay.com/Intel-Dual-Xeon-...QQcmdZViewItem

BTW If someone knows where to get sammys tell me :P

If i could get 1-2 pairs we could try the legendary turbopll mod with one of these :hrhr:
02-27-2009, 12:02 AM
s0lid

:hehe:

Found 2.167GHz sammys, pricy tho :ROTF:
http://www.upgradebay.com/c1_itemdet...emid=168756281
03-01-2009, 08:00 PM
Movieman

Who here would like to see a Sammy running a little faster?
say 20% faster..:wasntme:
03-01-2009, 10:12 PM
WesM63

Quote:

Originally Posted by Movieman

Who here would like to see a Sammy running a little faster?
say 20% faster..:wasntme:

I'm waiting...
03-01-2009, 11:26 PM
D_A

Quote:

Originally Posted by Movieman

Who here would like to see a Sammy running a little faster?
say 20% faster..:wasntme:

A shirt of +20str for the Sammy? Ya gotta hand this info up! :eek:
03-02-2009, 04:24 AM
Duh

id like to see it boss..
is there any reliable provider for cpus?? I might consider getting a sossaman rig ( as long as they are affordable as seen on ebay links). Im affraid I wont be able to pay $392 per cpu as in solid´s link :P

Quote:

Originally Posted by s0lid

Oh yeeees these are back with 19$ price :)
http://cgi.ebay.com/Intel-Dual-Xeon-...QQcmdZViewItem

BTW If someone knows where to get sammys tell me :P

If i could get 1-2 pairs we could try the legendary turbopll mod with one of these :hrhr:

tell me please if you are aware of any bargains :cool:
03-02-2009, 11:49 AM
s0lid

Quote:

Originally Posted by Movieman

Who here would like to see a Sammy running a little faster?
say 20% faster..:wasntme:

H-hi-hit me!
03-02-2009, 12:12 PM
Movieman

1 Attachment(s)

According to one of the worlds best modders if you do this you get a 2400/2mb/800 sammy( if your using the 2000's)
03-02-2009, 12:16 PM
Jaco

Will the chipset be able to handle 800FSB ?
theoretically yes ... but in reality ?

Maybe ask Tiro , he'll be interested ;)
03-02-2009, 12:35 PM
Movieman

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jaco

Will the chipset be able to handle 800FSB ?
theoretically yes ... but in reality ?

Maybe ask Tiro , he'll be interested ;)

According to the white papers on this it was tested and passed at 800
03-02-2009, 05:01 PM
Lu523

I have not read the whole thread so forgive me if this has been asked. How would it compare to an oc'ed Q6600@3.4-3.6? If it is close to the same I may have to find up the parts.
03-02-2009, 05:07 PM
Movieman

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lu523

I have not read the whole thread so forgive me if this has been asked. How would it compare to an oc'ed Q6600@3.4-3.6? If it is close to the same I may have to find up the parts.

You sort of have to read thru and learn about "Sammy"
He has talents well beyond computational power but to answer your question a 2000mhz Sossaman setup is app 50% in terms of daily output in WCG vs a Q6600 at 3600mhz..
BUT:
Costs app $170.00 for board,2 cpu's,2 gig of memory and the special heatsinks..
Draws app 110w at 110% load and gives off essentially no heat..
Cpu's run at 34C at 100% load on air..
Oh, and the Board we use orginally was a $430.00 Intel EATX server board that we now buy for $30.00 delivered in the USA..
Stable as anything you ever saw..:up:
03-02-2009, 07:34 PM
tiro_uspsss

I'm willing to try, on one condition: someone hook me up with some cheap sammys - MM what happened to that USA fellow on ebay who was trying to flog numerous sammys of for approx USD$40 iirc?

If I can get a couple 2Ghz sammies for under AUD$75 each, I'll be the guinea pig (if no one else is game)

I also need to get another board :rolleyes:
03-02-2009, 07:38 PM
Sparky

Hey tiro, I haven't found your thread again, did that PCI slot you put on that board actually function?
03-02-2009, 07:48 PM
tiro_uspsss

Quote:

Originally Posted by SparkyJJO

Hey tiro, I haven't found your thread again, did that PCI slot you put on that board actually function?

na :(

having said that, I havent quite finished abusing that mobo just yet :D
list of 'to-do' torture:

1) move PCI slot - yes, i'm gonna solder it onto a diff location - if this works, I'll skip no.2
2) remove PCI slot entirely, to see if the mobo has survived
03-02-2009, 07:59 PM
Movieman

Quote:

Originally Posted by tiro_uspsss

I'm willing to try, on one condition: someone hook me up with some cheap sammys - MM what happened to that USA fellow on ebay who was trying to flog numerous sammys of for approx USD$40 iirc?

If I can get a couple 2Ghz sammies for under AUD$75 each, I'll be the guinea pig (if no one else is game)

I also need to get another board :rolleyes:

Boards aren't an issue..I have 3 here now..
cpu's: I just 10 mins ago left thr guy a message asking about cpu's.. I got two from him for $67.95 shipped to me..
Thats $67.95 for TWO not each!:rofl:
Now get out your solder gun and tell me if this mod works will you or do I have to show you up and be the first one?
OK, time for bed for me.
03-02-2009, 08:20 PM
D_A

Quote:

Originally Posted by Movieman

Boards aren't an issue..I have 3 here now..
cpu's: I just 10 mins ago left thr guy a message asking about cpu's.. I got two from him for $67.95 shipped to me..
Thats $67.95 for TWO not each!:rofl:
Now get out your solder gun and tell me if this mod works will you or do I have to show you up and be the first one?
OK, time for bed for me.

... but it's only 3 in the afternoon!

...

Oh yeah ... :rolleyes: ... "MM naps" get more common as one ... matures.
03-02-2009, 11:30 PM
Martijn

Quote:

Originally Posted by Movieman

Boards aren't an issue..I have 3 here now..
cpu's: I just 10 mins ago left thr guy a message asking about cpu's.. I got two from him for $67.95 shipped to me..
Thats $67.95 for TWO not each!:rofl:
Now get out your solder gun and tell me if this mod works will you or do I have to show you up and be the first one?
OK, time for bed for me.

€38 for two :wasntme:

I ended up paying €100 for the complete system :D
03-03-2009, 05:15 PM
Lu523

I am tempted to build one of these rigs. If nothing else to have a dual cpu setup. I just need to find the parts up.
03-03-2009, 05:46 PM
Movieman

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lu523

I am tempted to build one of these rigs. If nothing else to have a dual cpu setup. I just need to find the parts up.

Everything but the cpu's is easy.
board: $30.00 shipped
HS: $20.00 and shipping
Memory: 2x1 gig DDR2-400 ECC Registered is app $45.00 shipped
03-03-2009, 06:00 PM
Duh

dave it is very tempting.. once I build my pending rigs I am gonna check my wallet to see if I can build one of these..
03-04-2009, 12:27 PM
Movieman

Bought some silver solder ..:wasntme:
03-04-2009, 12:37 PM
D_A

I surely hope that means something different there than it does here! :eek:

"Silver solder" here is one step below brazing on the temperature scale and requires the use of an oxy torch!
03-04-2009, 12:43 PM
Movieman

Quote:

Originally Posted by D_A

I surely hope that means something different there than it does here! :eek:

"Silver solder" here is one step below brazing on the temperature scale and requires the use of an oxy torch!

I said it wrong.. Silver solder is sort of a generic term here .
What I bought is technically 60/40% rosin core solder.
.062 diameter

Ok, taking odds..
Will it work?
Will Dave burn down the house?:rofl:
03-04-2009, 12:53 PM
CaptMorgan

Now i have read this thread a bit now- so I apologize if I ask something that has most likely been asked. But basically these Sossaman rigs are very basic machines with pretty good cpus- in a sense are these diskless? or are they run on linux to keep the cost down?

Of course, with questions like these maybe I shouldn't ask but, I would love to put a few together to crunch away. Though if I have some of this correctly some of the parts are hard to come by in the US.

Observing also that folding crunching data is in some aspects a small financial commitment-using the system but drawing more power than usual. Though maybe I am mistaken- am I confusing this for a small size folding farm
03-04-2009, 12:56 PM
Martijn

Quote:

Originally Posted by Movieman

I said it wrong.. Silver solder is sort of a generic term here .
What I bought is technically 60/40% rosin core solder.
.062 diameter

Ok, taking odds..
Will it work?
Will Dave burn down the house?:rofl:

Are you sure you will try this? You need very steady hands :rofl:
03-04-2009, 01:13 PM
alucasa

Quote:

Originally Posted by Martijn

Are you sure you will try this? You need very steady hands :rofl:

And very steady mind.

I don't think MM is thinking clearly now with March 9 coming close ...
03-04-2009, 01:44 PM
Jaco

Where is the time Dave was afraid of water :rofl:
Now he's showing us how to voltmod the Sammy :up:

"the patient is making great progress" is what Dr Sig would say
03-04-2009, 01:53 PM
Movieman

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaptMorgan

Now i have read this thread a bit now- so I apologize if I ask something that has most likely been asked. But basically these Sossaman rigs are very basic machines with pretty good cpus- in a sense are these diskless? or are they run on linux to keep the cost down?

Of course, with questions like these maybe I shouldn't ask but, I would love to put a few together to crunch away. Though if I have some of this correctly some of the parts are hard to come by in the US.

Observing also that folding crunching data is in some aspects a small financial commitment-using the system but drawing more power than usual. Though maybe I am mistaken- am I confusing this for a small size folding farm

We should talk, too much to explain here.. PM me.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Martijn

Are you sure you will try this? You need very steady hands :rofl:

Resistor is off, just made up the jumper to go to ground.
Damn is this fine work and yes, I have very steady hands and working under 15X magnification..
I can read the numbers on the resistor..:rofl:

Quote:

Originally Posted by alucasa

And very steady mind.

I don't think MM is thinking clearly now with March 9 coming close ...

Point, but this takes my mind off of the waiting.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jaco

Where is the time Dave was afraid of water :rofl:
Now he's showing us how to voltmod the Sammy :up:

"the patient is making great progress" is what Dr Sig would say

I've learned a lot at this place from some very talented people.. Time to see if I can put some of it to work.
Be back, time to finish and then build and see if it works..
03-04-2009, 02:03 PM
Sparky

Quote:

Originally Posted by Movieman

We should talk, too much to explain here.. PM me.

oh noes, gonna ask for the phone number I just know it :shocked:
03-04-2009, 02:09 PM
tool_462

Anywhere I can find a list of the various sSpecs on these chips? I've had lots of 771 LV/ULV chips pass through my hands but usually don't deal with this socket.

@Dave: If you know of a few sSpecs (ES or release) I can try to locate some CPUs if people in this thread are interested :)
03-04-2009, 02:14 PM
s0lid

Quote:

Originally Posted by tool_462

Anywhere I can find a list of the various sSpecs on these chips? I've had lots of 771 LV/ULV chips pass through my hands but usually don't deal with this socket.

@Dave: If you know of a few sSpecs (ES or release) I can try to locate some CPUs if people in this thread are interested :)

sSpecs list:
SL9HM -2167
SL8WT / SL9HN - 2000
SL98Q / SL9HP - 1667
SL9HS - 1667 ULV
03-04-2009, 02:57 PM
Movieman

Quote:

Originally Posted by gongo

Let us know if this works, and remember, pics or it didn't happen!

Pic this!:rofl:
I got the jumper to stick but then of course I managed to pull it off again..:shakes:
Taking a break , that stuff is hard on my eyes.
03-04-2009, 03:02 PM
tool_462

Quote:

Originally Posted by s0lid

sSpecs list:
SL9HM -2167
SL8WT / SL9HN - 2000
SL98Q / SL9HP - 1667
SL9HS - 1667 ULV

Thanks much, I'll hopefully be able to find some. If I do it'll probably be a lot of 50 or more :rofl:
03-04-2009, 03:05 PM
Movieman

Quote:

Originally Posted by tool_462

Thanks much, I'll hopefully be able to find some. If I do it'll probably be a lot of 50 or more :rofl:

There is also rumor of a 2300mhz sossaman but damned if I can find one anywhere and I don't know the spec on it..
03-04-2009, 07:27 PM
D_A

Quote:

Originally Posted by Movieman

There is also rumor of a 2300mhz sossaman but damned if I can find one anywhere and I don't know the spec on it..

You mean this:
Attachment 95871

(source)

I fear they may never have survived the birthing process. :shakes:
03-04-2009, 08:32 PM
Movieman

Quote:

Originally Posted by D_A

You mean this:
Attachment 95871

(source)

I fear they may never have survived the birthing process. :shakes:

It did exist, that company that made the box with 4 blades in it used the 2300's in their systems.
I know, I called them in Canada the other day to see if they had any left over..:D

now my night, assembling the "modded" sammy, pull out my PCP+C610 to install my brandy assed new Corsair 400w PSU that comes with a 24 pin and 8 pin and guess what?
It isn't a 8 pin but a double 4 pin and connectors are wrong for the 8 pin on my board..
Even the box shows a 8 pin but not inside..:mad:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817139008
03-04-2009, 08:46 PM
Sparky

I'd contact the Corsair rep here, sounds like maybe it has the wrong connector on it somehow - 8pin is 8pin I would think, so that 8 pin probably wouldn't work on any board that requires it.
03-04-2009, 09:03 PM
Movieman

Quote:

Originally Posted by SparkyJJO

I'd contact the Corsair rep here, sounds like maybe it has the wrong connector on it somehow - 8pin is 8pin I would think, so that 8 pin probably wouldn't work on any board that requires it.

yea, I sent Yellowbeard a nice note..
Didn't pull a "Corsair flucked me" post like so many do here!:rofl:
03-04-2009, 09:53 PM
D_A

But ... how will he know you care? :lol:
03-04-2009, 10:12 PM
Movieman

Quote:

Originally Posted by D_A

But ... how will he know you care? :lol:

bad night, system powers up but two leds at back top have issues..
Top is red, second one down is a mix of red and yellow..
Got to find out what these represent but it isn't good..
No video..:(
03-04-2009, 10:25 PM
Movieman

Had enough for one night..1:23am here..I think this board may be considered a $30.00 contribution to science and learning..:shrug:
I'll screw around with it some more tomorrow and if no luck pop the orginal board back in..
03-05-2009, 03:42 AM
jcool

Crap... try resoldering the resistor in its place and see if it fires back up?
03-05-2009, 07:23 AM
CaptMorgan

omg.. this is the longest thread eVer. Well not the longest-but the coolest, most intriguing and most likely in the end result for a good cause! Had some work stuff to do and went to class late and am still reading through this whole thing- it's not like someone can quickly scroll through this, would probably miss something.

Dave I want to know what your end result with that PSU- they like a good price for product and I am getting a list together- I bid on 2 chips last night before I hit the sack. Not the best price but still OK probably gonna pick up a few boards also. "Ideally" I want to get 2 or 3 of these things running by May; they seem perfect!!

I need to go through this thread more and pull out all the necessary guts
03-05-2009, 08:51 AM
Martijn

Quote:

Originally Posted by gongo

The Supermicro board did the same when I tried to perform the mod. I came to the following two possibilities:
1. Connecting straight to GND is exceeding the input tolerance specs.
2. The internal input pin pull ups are still enabled.

Either way, connecting to GND results in either MID voltage or a short, so all of the outputs default to Vref or Hi-Z instead of actual signal. That's why it never boots, it doesn't finish the loop lock.

I wasn't brave enough to hook it up to negative voltage to see what would happen.

Guys, did you try soldering a VR on that spot instead? Maybe the resistance only needs to be lowered.
03-05-2009, 10:41 AM
Movieman

I have one more thing to try..
going to bring this wire to 3.3v and see what happens.
03-05-2009, 01:26 PM
CaptMorgan

Here we go guys I bid on 2 of them on ebay-so play nice; and ordered the board!! lookin forward to this. This is the right memory(how many do i need)-

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820134272

Does anyone know a case a little cheaper than a 100-I know you use the Lian Li62 Dave. time to get some heatsinks
03-05-2009, 02:28 PM
Movieman

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaptMorgan

Here we go guys I bid on 2 of them on ebay-so play nice; and ordered the board!! lookin forward to this. This is the right memory(how many do i need)-

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820134272

Does anyone know a case a little cheaper than a 100-I know you use the Lian Li62 Dave. time to get some heatsinks

That's the right memory.. Goes in the #2 and 4 dimms from the top when the board is in a case..
I remember that the egg had a EATX case for like $55.00..
Go to wamps here, thread stickied about Youngpro by me and a link is there for the case..
mike047 might have made the orginal comment on the case.
03-05-2009, 04:13 PM
Jaco

Chieftec has some midtowers that are E-ATX ready.

http://www.alternate.be/html/shop/pr...ower&#Chieftec
03-05-2009, 05:22 PM
CaptMorgan

So I basically can put 8gb in this thing-from what I read in this over-stuffed-with-info thread is the memory slots do not take 2gb sticks? These boards and cpus can up to 16gb, so I read?
03-05-2009, 05:34 PM
CaptMorgan

Thanks

Quote:

Originally Posted by gongo

2x 1gb micron, single rank for $25 shipped

I've bought from this seller several times and never been disappointed. He also sells compatible 2gb single rank modules. I've gotten 8x 2gb and 8x 1gb from him for sammy1 and sammy2. That's 24gb for $360 shipped!

Thanks I took advantage of that-I love free shipping too!!
03-05-2009, 06:12 PM
jcool

16GB on an x86 platform - how can you use that much ram w/o 64Bit capabilities? I don't get it.
03-05-2009, 07:26 PM
Movieman

anyone here bidding on these?
Don't want to jump in if you guys are..
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=120385482302
03-05-2009, 07:33 PM
WesM63

Quote:

Originally Posted by gongo

PAE - Physical Address Extension
It allows us to use a 36-bit memory access, 32-bits per process and 4-bits for paging. It means that we can technically get up to 64GB on a 32-bit platform!

It's available for free with Linux but you need Windows Server Datacenter Edition to take advantage of it in Windows. Technically Windows XP uses it to read the NX bit for DEP, but doesn't actively page anything out past 4GB - MMIO.

The 32-bit 4GB limitation is only per process, so it's not too bad. You could run a couple VMs, a database, and web server process and still have enough memory for everything.

I think the old Socket 8 Pentium Pro was the first to implement it.

You can use Windows Server Enterprise. That's what I'm using on my original Sammy.
03-05-2009, 07:34 PM
chew*

This isn't done yet? :shakes: what ya doing movieman milking cows? :D
03-05-2009, 07:39 PM
Movieman

Quote:

Originally Posted by chew*

This isn't done yet? :shakes: what ya doing movieman milking cows? :D

No, I'm old and someday you will be too..:rofl:
Seriously, I did the mod yesterday and nada..starts up but no post and no vid..
two led lights at back top are light red..:(
03-05-2009, 07:50 PM
CaptMorgan

Play Nice

Quote:

Originally Posted by Movieman

anyone here bidding on these?
Don't want to jump in if you guys are..
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=120385482302

Ya those are mine-I'm the highest bidder, if it stays that way I get the set for less than $115 total with shipping
03-05-2009, 07:53 PM
Movieman

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaptMorgan

Ya those are mine-I'm the highest bidder, if it stays that way I get the set for less than $115 total with shipping

Ok, I'll stay off of them..:up:
03-05-2009, 08:06 PM
CaptMorgan

I'll tell ya I spent a good bit of last night and half of today searching online & reading through threads for just a small bite. Nothing and then I finally found those 2- thats why I broke down and bought 2 of those 1667's, 2 boards and a bunch of memory. that site actually has the SL8WT for sale@ $149- which is slightly up there considering the concept of this rig

http://www.itxchange.com/itxchange/p...UrlSrc=Website

I searched forever- got alot of the Asian eBay/yahoo sites but nothing. now I just need to wait for my parts and keep my fingers crossed for that auction! Thanks for all input from everyone
03-05-2009, 08:21 PM
Movieman

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaptMorgan

I'll tell ya I spent a good bit of last night and half of today searching online & reading through threads for just a small bite. Nothing and then I finally found those 2- thats why I broke down and bought 2 of those 1667's, 2 boards and a bunch of memory. that site actually has the SL8WT for sale@ $149- which is slightly up there considering the concept of this rig

http://www.itxchange.com/itxchange/p...UrlSrc=Website

I searched forever- got alot of the Asian eBay/yahoo sites but nothing. now I just need to wait for my parts and keep my fingers crossed for that auction! Thanks for all input from everyone

Good thing I didn't show you the link to the impossible to get 2167mhz versions for $395.00 each!:rofl:
03-05-2009, 08:26 PM
Movieman

One thing to always remember is that cpu prices drop like bricks EXCEPT the top one of each platform and that is why there are people asking huge money for a 3 year old cpu such as this.
Now the other side is that when I first started dealing in cpu's in mid 2004 these sold for $2500.00 each on ebay:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Intel-Xeon-3-0GH...1%7C240%3A1318
03-05-2009, 08:53 PM
chew*

Quote:

Originally Posted by Movieman

No, I'm old and someday you will be too..:rofl:
Seriously, I did the mod yesterday and nada..starts up but no post and no vid..
two led lights at back top are light red..:(

Have a spare board?

My soldering skills are ok, not great but I can probably whip it out for ya.
03-05-2009, 08:59 PM
CaptMorgan

Quote:

Originally Posted by chew*

Have a spare board?

My soldering skills are ok, not great but I can probably whip it out for ya.

I ordered an extra 1 and technically I only have 2 chips comin till the end of that auction. So we can meet half way and its yours(or you can pay for shipping from my house which would still be less than there's):up: Either way you got one close by.
03-05-2009, 09:24 PM
Movieman

Quote:

Originally Posted by chew*

Have a spare board?

My soldering skills are ok, not great but I can probably whip it out for ya.

I have a total of 5 boards here..
One running system
one the board I modded last night and 3 new ones in a box upstairs..
03-05-2009, 09:34 PM
systemviper

Quote:

Originally Posted by Movieman

I have a total of 5 boards here..
One running system
one the board I modded last night and 3 new ones in a box upstairs..

Ahhh, I new i would find you in here... :yepp:
03-05-2009, 09:39 PM
Movieman

Quote:

Originally Posted by systemviper

Ahhh, I new i would find you in here... :yepp:

My home away from home and when you do finally try one of these your going to yell at me for not talking you into it sooner..:D
03-05-2009, 10:16 PM
Movieman

Quote:

Originally Posted by gongo

Hey! One of those is mine! :D
Been trying to buy it off of Dave for a couple weeks now, but fate keeps getting in the way, LOL.

Honestly though, it's the last component I'm missing for this build, I've got:
2x SL9HN 2.0GHz
8x 2GB PC2-3200 ECC Reg (Elpida)
6x 7K1000.B 320GB 7200RPM SATA (Hitachi)
1x AXXLCPPED (Front Panel LCD)
1x AXXIMMADV (Advanced Remote Management mBMC)
1x ARIGCDFDBRK (Slimline CD/Floppy Mounting Kit)
1x AXX6SATADB (6-Bay SATA Hot-swap module)
1x SC5275-E (Intel Server Chassis with 600W Power Supply)
1x NVIDIA Quadro NVS 290
1x SB0410 SoundBlaster Live! 24-bit PCI
1x TEAC FD-05HF Slimline Floppy
1x Samsung SN-S082H Slimline DL DVD-RW
2x Vantec SF8025L 80mm Fan

It's all assembled here, just waiting for the SE7520BB2D2 and ABBHEATSINKS... :shakes:

This is going to be a much crazier build than Sammy1 was... :yepp:

Have you read the manual?
Unless your very carefull running 16 gig is tough..
03-05-2009, 10:35 PM
Movieman

Quote:

Originally Posted by gongo

This is the 16 gig that's been running in Sammy1 for the past couple months, so I expect it work. They're all single rank, all the exact same Elpida chip. Three of the pairs are matched batches, and the last pair of 2 gig modules are only a couple batches off from each other. These are PC2-3200 CAS 3 ECC Registered, so it should be a textbook match for the expected specs. I'm not planning on doing anything funky with memory sparing or mirroring, so I don't anticipate any issues, but I guess we'll see?:shrug:

I bought an extra 8 gigs for Sammy1 since the 16 gig is going to Sammy2. I'm shipping Sammy1 with the 8 gig to my brother this weekend. I'm on it right now and the 8 gigs are working fine too. :up:

Then you DID read the manual..:up:
03-05-2009, 10:42 PM
Sparky

Are sossamans 32 bit or 64 bit CPUs?
03-05-2009, 10:44 PM
Movieman

Quote:

Originally Posted by SparkyJJO

Are sossamans 32 bit or 64 bit CPUs?

32 only.. They went to 64 bit with the next gen after these, the meroms

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