Sorry, it's 0501.
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No probs - not too hot on the raid on this board - someone else i'm sure will assist. Might be worth entering more default speeds/voltages to override the auto settings in the bios.
Hi EF - you now have two boards ????
What do you have planned ? :shock2:
yes it'll fit fine with 2 out of 4 mounting holes on the block used.
http://www.me.com/ro/jeffrey_lee/Gal...12176099630001
Not much :D
One of it is on my bookshelf looking pretty :cool:
http://gallery.me.com/jeffrey_lee/10...12215875500001
If somehow my current board decide to go tits up then it will be stormed in as a backup :up:
Good plan :)
Was thinking you might be going LN2 or something :D
The Thermalright ones are both the same base, just slightly different heatpipe config. One is straight and the other is sort of diagonal.
Yes, that helped with one stick of ram so i'm sure once I've installed sp1 it should better address 4 gigs.
However, I do see my Raid 0 during my initial Vista installation but when I select driver ( which I have on my flash drive) it only has one that is compatible:
Quote:
iaStor_ICH8RICH9RICH10R = "Intel(R) ICH8R/ICH9R/ICH10R SATA RAID Controller"
But when I choose it and try to install it says that Vista cannot find the storage device. So which is it for vista x64?
; iaAHCI.inf
iaAHCI_ESB2 = "Intel(R) ESB2 SATA AHCI Controller"
iaAHCI_ICH7RDH = "Intel(R) ICH7R/DH SATA AHCI Controller"
iaAHCI_ICH7MMDH = "Intel(R) ICH7M/MDH SATA AHCI Controller"
iaAHCI_ICH8RDHDO = "Intel(R) ICH8R/DH/DO SATA AHCI Controller"
iaAHCI_ICH8MEM = "Intel(R) ICH8M-E/M SATA AHCI Controller"
iaAHCI_ICH9RDODH = "Intel(R) ICH9R/DO/DH SATA AHCI Controller"
iaAHCI_ICH9MEM = "Intel(R) ICH9M-E/M SATA AHCI Controller"
iaAHCI_ICH10R = "Intel(R) ICH10R SATA AHCI Controller"
; iaStor.inf
iaStor_ESB2 = "Intel(R) ESB2 SATA RAID Controller"
iaStor_ICH7RDH = "Intel(R) ICH7R/DH SATA RAID Controller"
iaStor_ICH7MDH = "Intel(R) ICH7MDH SATA RAID Controller"
iaStor_ICH8RICH9RICH10R = "Intel(R) ICH8R/ICH9R/ICH10R SATA RAID Controller"
iaStor_ICH8MEICH9ME = "Intel(R) ICH8M-E/ICH9M-E SATA RAID Controller
Hi guys, I'm trying to OC my Q9650 with my Rampage Extreme, but it seems like I'm getting a little bit of problems. With the setting I'm gonna post in a second, I can boot into Windows, but it's not stable...at all. Any suggestion? I have:
-450 FSB with multiplier at 9
-Skew Auto
-Strap @ 266
-RAM Freq @ 1800 with 1.98 vdram
-Read and Write control disabled
-Clock twister moderate
-Transaction booster moderate
-Performance Lev 6
-V.Core 1.32
-LLC disabled
-PPL 1.54
-FSB termination voltage 1.32
-NB voltage 1.4
-SB 1.5 and 1.06
-Everything else is on [Auto]
The CPU is cooled by the Thermalright Ultra 120 Extreme, RAM are 4x 1 GB of TWIN3X2048-1800C7DFIN DDR3. How can I get it stable to 4Ghz daily? Is it actually possible? Any other suggestion?!
Thanks :)
lol, so if 0301 is bad, and 0501 sucks for quads, what are you supposed to use?
^^^ Good question. I'm about to boot my RE for the first time (see build log in sig) what can I expect from the mobo?
Mine booted right up without a hitch on one stick of ram. Shut down and added the other stick as suggested here and it was running at 3.6GMh All on auto. Went back and found a few volts on the high side so look for that. Fun board to tweak with if, it likes your ram you should have no problems :up:
im finding it difficult to get a good fsb with quad also.
Knowing that latest bios has problems with quads makes me happy :(! Only way I could downgrade would be by using floppy, but since I haven't one I cannot do anything. Mezzro, please, could you give me some advice?
The last semi-stable setup was this:
-450 FSB with multiplier at 9
-Skew Auto
-Strap @ 266
-RAM Freq @ 1800 with 1.98 vdram
-Read and Write control disabled
-Clock twister moderate
-Transaction booster moderate
-Performance Lev 6
-V.Core 1.32
-LLC disabled
-PPL 1.54
-FSB termination voltage 1.32
-NB voltage 1.4
-SB 1.5 and 1.06
-Everything else is on [Auto]
The CPU is cooled by the Thermalright Ultra 120 Extreme, RAM are 4x 1 GB of TWIN3X2048-1800C7DFIN DDR3. How can I get it stable to 4Ghz daily? Is it actually possible? Any other suggestion?!
Thanks ;).
No. What I meant was that 501 is the best of the BIOS's IMO, but still not stable with quad cores: this board is not yet quad friendly (esp at clock speeds in excess of 4.00GHz).
While it's contrary to conventional OC wisdom, the best approach on this board with quads is to use auto overclock settings until a more mature BIOS is released. Set your multi to 9x and try the two default OC settings: "QX9770" and "Crazy." Set your strap to 400MHz. Leave all else at auto. If you're able to run stable, bump the multi to 10x. Normally I would recommend disabling LLC, but the vdroop is so bad here (on vcore) that it's necessary to use it in most cases.
Try leaving auto functions on for setup, including vcore. Double check your RAID driver disk and make sure you created it using the 64 bit Intel RAID driver app from the mobo drivers disk and not the 32 bit app.
0666. :ROTF:
Subscribed.
This has been a great Thread, and has motivated me into getting an RE.
DeathWalker, I'm using bios 403 right now along with the 9650. Just a basic OC of 425 X 8.5 with the G.SKILL running at 1700 7-7-7-18.
Good luck with it.
Yes, it's possible on air. My first advice would be to lose 2GB of RAM until you achieve a stable 4.00GHz OC. Much easier to overclock with 2GB than with 4GB. Leave RAM timings at auto until you get your CPU clock speed stable, then go back and use manual settings to increase RAM speed and tighten timings. Increase your strap to 400MHz. Ensure you have adequate vdimm, according to mfr specs. Enable LLC. Increase NB voltage to 1.60. Leave PPL, but increase to 1.60v, as well, if you find 4.00GHz unstable. My personal experience has been that Clock Twister and Transaction Booster do nothing to increase stability and everything to counter it. Again, just my personal experience. Others here swear by it. Try leaving them at auto first. If unstable, revert both to your settings above. Necessary vcore varies with each processor -- some do better than others at low voltages. Usually, though, to hit an OC on or about 4.00GHz. you will need at least a 1.40 or 1.45vcore. Sometimes higher. Don't go above 1.50 on air. I wouldn't exceed 1.65 vcore on water with LLC enabled.
I had put some of the stuff that came in yesterday.
http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/1...0286so3.th.jpg
The Board came in with 0301 Bios, flashed it to 0403. Also, it looks like the NB gets pretty hot(42C idling @ 1.3V). I would have to apply MX-2 and reseat the heatpipe thingy tomorrow. It seems like it also doesn't like my OCZ DDR3 2000 4GB kit. It gives a ton of errors in memtest @ default settings.
http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/9...0289fe4.th.jpg
I will have try 0501 and if it still doesn't work, I would have to put my OCZ on the S2E and put my GSkills on the RE.
Also, for now I have just installed XP on the Samsung F1 and haven't opened my OCZ Core 2 SSDs and the raid card yet. Will do it sometime this week after I figure out the board behaviour with the various sticks of RAM that I have.
Hi Tekjunkie - nice build :D
Is your OCZ a 2x2Gb or 4x1Gb kit ?. I had the same issues with my 4x1Gb kit which worked well on my last board - the SIIE - so good plan to swap them across. My G.Skills worked well at their stock 1600Mhz speeds but I really want 450FSB on this board so changed them for the Dominators. I wanted a high confidence level that the memory will not give out first when increasing the bus speed.
Thanks.They are the 2x2 Gb kit. The wierd thing is I swapped my RAM to the gskill BHzs and it picked up the XMP profile on the SPD and it's running the FSB @ 400x7.5 for the stock speed of 3GHZ. I left everything on auto, so the vcore is too high for the stock speeds(1.31V).It's not even SPI 32M stable. I have to play around a bit in the BIOS and I have a feeling that I have a long road ahead of me much like the S2E. I had a tough time figuring that board out, but once you figure it out, it rewards you.
I've tried to remove 2GB but it still gives me problems, the LCD Poster says Check DRAM (or something like that, I don't remember exactly) and it won't boot in any way. The ONLY setup which made me boot into Windows is the one I've posted before, but it wasn't stable. I've also flashed the bios back to 0404, still no results. This is the neverending story :D, the ONLY way I can be stable is to have the RAM at 1600 with 400 FSB, I'm beginning to think that it's the RAM'S fault...
I am still struggling with the temp of the NB (on air). Looks like the TRUE120 is warping the board. Below is a pic of how bad it becomes. Only half of the NB touches the copper block of the stock cooling. Tried experimenting with the mounting for the TRUE (including washer trick, and putting different tensions), to no avail. Now taken off all of the stock cooling. Any ideas on how to avoid this using the stock cooling? TIA....
http://i402.photobucket.com/albums/p...170106_web.jpg
Maxxx
Greets All :)
Ok First up Let me say a Huge hello to Everyone here,
Secondly and i have No reason to hide anything whatsoever
I am A COMPLETE NOOB when it comes to overclocking & its assoc settings req in the bios , i would probably be safer in saying that if i had much luck in there then its more by pure chance than design.
Anyway i am currently building a new rig :clap: lol
its been a little while since last time But this time going H2o, at the present it's a h2o / air hybrid ..
for specs Ect ...
http://asusindependent.com/forums/in...?showtopic=365
there should be some pics also of the build and a working link to the case of choice ( Gigabyte 3D Mercury ... well if im going h2o mightaswell get a case that at least supplies one loop :)
also at the present and i DO stress the word present, the rig is running a q9450 2.66G cpu + 4g corsair ddr3 1333 mem 9.9.9.24 spec anyway its all in the build log so far .. NEEDLESS to say this has NOT been without it's pitfalls
So for ANYONE wanting to rush out and grab this board and run it with a quadcore ...sit back . reflect & think hard . because looking at the crappy job asus has done with this board as far as quality control goes ITS pretty lack luster to say the least . anyway Sure it does Not have the best of mem out there installed but its on the qvl 1333 sect right at the top .. and the cpu is also supported .. so ? anyway for more details on it.. the link again is
'
http://asusindependent.com/forums/in...?showtopic=365
just thought i would share on here and possibly in the near future save someone some money and headaches .. however i am a persistent bastard :)
and will keep on at this thing untill i crack it , or it ends up with its mate the striker 2 nse LOL ..prior to that two xfx 790i ultra's both rma'd due to them being crap
regards :)
Yesterday I decieded to see what was better Speeding HDD or the Intel ICH9. I hooked my two WD 150gig Raptors to the speedy HDD disabled the ICH9. I can say for sure that going threw the first part of the bios up USB final was twice as fast as the ICH9. I was bit surprised and thought maybe this Speeding HDD is going to blow away the ICH9. After installing windows XP pro The time it took to boot into windows was cut in half compaired to the ICH9. So those two things the speedy is for sure better at. I have 3 screen shots first is speedy without the marvell 61XX driver 2Nd is with the 61xx driver 3rd is the Intel ICH9R
Speeding HDD Without Driver
http://img78.imageshack.us/img78/9702/speedyhddmp2.jpg
Speeding HDD With 61xx driver
http://img78.imageshack.us/img78/7523/drspeedybf7.jpg
Intel ICH9R Raid 0
http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/8...telraidbf1.jpg
As you can see from the benchmarks Speedy with the driver out performs speedy without the driver. Another nice thing about speedy is you dont have to install the driver during windows setup. So no searching for a floppy or having to intregate your raid drivers into your CD. You just simply add it after booting into windows. Another note is installing the driver slighly increases the XP boot up time. From the benches it seems speed flat lines to about have way threw the disk @ about 133 transfer rate. I am not sure but i believe is the transfer rate cap on speedy . Not sure if it is driver or hardware related. I would think two 7200 sata 1 drives would be below this 133. If someone has two hooked up to there Speeding HDD would be nice to see the benchmarks. Taking a look at the Intel ICH9 in raid 0 it does Beat out the speedy. Sandra shows less of a win but if you look at the everest it shows more of a butt kicking. Buffered Read showing the biggest differance with a 100% gain on the Speedy.
I was thinking about redoing this some time soon, these benchmark are only for read speed, to do write speeds the drives need to be empty. So i was thinking XP & Vista dual boot on a 160 Gig sataII drive and running some read and write tests..Also would be nice to do some tests on some 7200 sataI drives ( but i dont have any free at the moment ...Anyways i hope this helps with the question : Is ROG Speeding HDD on my rampage extreme really faster then the intel ICH9r in raid 0
I dont seem to have a problem with my Quad core on this board running it @ 3.8Ghz. Sure Asus for sure did a slack job on the TIM for the heat pipes. ( they need to fire the Guy that does that ). But really i think this board will only produce better overclocks with new bios releases. I think with a band new board with a fairly new chipset your just going to have to face the fact your going to be a beta tester for awhile. Not really sure what your having a problem with but that chip should have no problems running @ 2.66. If your post your settings and what is wrong maybe I or someone else in here can help you get it squared away
Yeah you could do a read benchmark on that but a write bench will destroy data so the drives need to be empty. Had i known that i would have done this differantly from the start.Quote:
Nice job and I would comply but I opted to setup my 150 raptors Raid 0 32mb on the Intel chipset. So if you want I can run some test but I'm sure they'll be skewed since the OS is on them.
Your 32Mb did you mean 32Kb block size when you made the raid 0? Which if that is the block size would be interesting to see your read benches. Since i have mY Block size set up as the Defualt 128Kb.
I really am thinking about hooking up that 160gig and wipe the raptors and get some write benches. I kinda feel like the read benches i posted have created more questions for me, Then what they have answered. One being since write on two raptors will be below 133MB/s is the Speeding and ICH9R going to bench the same? I might just do it although installing windows 2 more times today does not sound like much fun. I would rather be more thorough and with some time Questions could be answered
I´m running with my q9450 right now with 475x8 without any probs. Using 0501 bios.
EDIT: Only thing i hate is that vista boots damn slow with x38 and x48 with ati HD4870 card.
Yes 32KB. Which program would you like tested ?
Care to share ? Just copy and paste:
Extreme Tweaker Menu
CPU FSB - Auto
CPU Level Up - Auto
-cpu configuration
-cpu clock skew - Auto
-nb clock skew - Auto
FSB Strap to North Bridge - Auto
DRAM FREQUENCY - Auto
DRAM Command Rate - Auto
DRAM Timing Control - Auto
*1st information : 7-7-7-18-80-12-6
*2nd informaion : 8-6-6-4-7-4-7
*3rd information : 23-8-1-8-8
DRAM Static Read Control - Auto
DRAM Dynamic Write Control - Auto
-DRAM Skew Control
Ai Clock Twister - Auto
Ai Transaction Booster - Auto
*C/P : A1 A2
*LVL : 07 07
EPU II Phase Control - Auto
-----------------------------------------------------------------
*** Please Key in Numbers or select voltage!***
CPU Voltage - 1.35
Load-Line Calibration - Auto
CPU PLL Voltage - Auto
FSB Termination Voltage - Auto
CPU GTLVref (o) - Auto
CPU GTLVref (1) - Auto
CPU GTLVref (2) - Auto
CPU GTLVref (3) - Auto
NB GTLVref - Auto
North Bridge Voltage - Auto
DRAM Voltage -Auto
NB DDRVref - Auto
DDR3 ChannelA Vref - Auto
DDR3 ChannelB Vref - Auto
South Bridge 1.5 Voltage - Auto
South Bridge 1.05 Voltage - Auto
**********************************************
CPU Spread Spectrum - Auto
PCIE Spread Spectrum - Auto
Since my Mushkins can't even hit 400 stable. These are my settings:
Extreme Tweaker Menu
Ai Overclock Tuner: Manual
CPU Multiplier: 7x
TweakIt/EPU-Six Engine
CPU Level Up - Auto
-cpu configuration
-cpu clock skew - Auto
-nb clock skew - Auto
FSB Strap to North Bridge - 333 or 400
DRAM FREQUENCY - 1333 (default cpu fsb would result in this being max)
DRAM Command Rate - 2T , try 1 later
DRAM Timing Control - Auto
*1st information : 7-7-7-18-80-12-6
*2nd informaion : 8-6-6-4-7-4-7
*3rd information : 23-8-1-8-8
DRAM Static Read Control - Disabled
DRAM Dynamic Write Control - Disabled
-DRAM Skew Control
Ai Clock Twister - Lightest
Ai Transaction Booster - Manual
Common Performance Level: 9
EPU II Phase Control - Auto
-----------------------------------------------------------------
*** Please Key in Numbers or select voltage!***
CPU Voltage - 1.35
Load-Line Calibration - Auto
CPU PLL Voltage - Auto
FSB Termination Voltage - Auto
CPU GTLVref (o) - Auto
CPU GTLVref (1) - Auto
CPU GTLVref (2) - Auto
CPU GTLVref (3) - Auto
NB GTLVref - 0.67
North Bridge Voltage - 1.55
DRAM Voltage -1.922
NB DDRVref - DDR_REF
DDR3 ChannelA Vref - DDR_REF
DDR3 ChannelB Vref - DDR_REF
South Bridge 1.5 Voltage - Auto
South Bridge 1.05 Voltage - Auto
**********************************************
CPU Spread Spectrum - Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum - Disabled
:shakes:
temps hit CPU43C NB41C running memorytest86
If this goes on I'll yank the board out completely and get rid of the memory as well.
This is good stuff...thanks for posting. I just picked up pair of 150GB VR's from ebay on the cheap. I should have them Monday and will try the read and write tests when I get them. Your results confirm my thoughts about the ICH9 Controller but was not inspired to verify. :D
hi
I need link to bios 403
ive got a Q9550 E0 and im running it @ 4.2Ghz, 495 x 8.5
cooled by water
0501 bios
temps are 37 NB idle
CPU 29/29/36/36 idle
BIOS section of this thread...
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...40&postcount=4
I agree, the proof is in the pudding and just saying without revealing is not very helpful. Here's a list, just copy and paste and put in your values...I'm curious as well:
Extreme Tweaker Menu
CPU FSB - Auto
CPU Level Up - Auto
-cpu configuration
-cpu clock skew - Auto
-nb clock skew - Auto
FSB Strap to North Bridge - Auto
DRAM FREQUENCY - Auto
DRAM Command Rate - Auto
DRAM Timing Control - Auto
*1st information : 7-7-7-18-80-12-6
*2nd informaion : 8-6-6-4-7-4-7
*3rd information : 23-8-1-8-8
DRAM Static Read Control - Auto
DRAM Dynamic Write Control - Auto
-DRAM Skew Control
Ai Clock Twister - Auto
Ai Transaction Booster - Auto
*C/P : A1 A2
*LVL : 07 07
EPU II Phase Control - Auto
-----------------------------------------------------------------
*** Please Key in Numbers or select voltage!***
CPU Voltage - 1.35
Load-Line Calibration - Auto
CPU PLL Voltage - Auto
FSB Termination Voltage - Auto
CPU GTLVref (o) - Auto
CPU GTLVref (1) - Auto
CPU GTLVref (2) - Auto
CPU GTLVref (3) - Auto
NB GTLVref - Auto
North Bridge Voltage - Auto
DRAM Voltage -Auto
NB DDRVref - Auto
DDR3 ChannelA Vref - Auto
DDR3 ChannelB Vref - Auto
South Bridge 1.5 Voltage - Auto
South Bridge 1.05 Voltage - Auto
**********************************************
CPU Spread Spectrum - Auto
PCIE Spread Spectrum - Auto
well its not exactly 'safe'
Extreme Tweaker Menu
CPU FSB - Manual
CPU Level Up - Auto
FSB: 495
-cpu configuration
-cpu clock skew - Auto
-nb clock skew - Auto
FSB Strap to North Bridge - 333
DRAM FREQUENCY - 1199(my ram sucks majorly for ocing)
DRAM Command Rate - Auto
DRAM Timing Control - Auto
*1st information : 7-7-7-20-80-12-6
*2nd informaion : 8-6-6-4-7-4-7
*3rd information : 23-8-1-8-8
DRAM Static Read Control - Auto
DRAM Dynamic Write Control - Auto
-DRAM Skew Control
Ai Clock Twister - Auto
Ai Transaction Booster - Auto
*C/P : A1 A2
*LVL : 07 07
EPU II Phase Control - Auto
-----------------------------------------------------------------
*** Please Key in Numbers or select voltage!***
CPU Voltage - 1.462
Load-Line Calibration - Enabled
CPU PLL Voltage - 1.709
FSB Termination Voltage - 1.45
CPU GTLVref (o) - +40
CPU GTLVref (1) - +50
CPU GTLVref (2) - +50
CPU GTLVref (3) - +40
NB GTLVref - +30
North Bridge Voltage - 1.7 (the nb temps are still low, so yeah)
DRAM Voltage -1.8
NB DDRVref - Auto
DDR3 ChannelA Vref - Auto
DDR3 ChannelB Vref - Auto
South Bridge 1.5 Voltage - 1.6
South Bridge 1.05 Voltage - 1.08
**********************************************
CPU Spread Spectrum - Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum - Disabled
stable for 1 hr OCCT stress test, idle temps 29/29/36/36 load 60ish
EDIT: have now set 499 fsb with same settings and its 3dmark 06 stable and pi, will try OCCT soon
will post OCCT results if required, as well as cpu-z if you want.
i dont think it would be possible on air.
with vvt @ anything below that = no post
same with pll
but with this voltage its stable, so yeah. anything 499> not stable at all
quads respond VERY well to those and GTL's.
what can i say, the EP45T-Extreme got me frustrated, yet again, so i turned to the one thing that has never
let me down...except when it let me down for those few days while it was dead :D
needless to say, she is definitely back, and on 0501...kicking ass and taking names! GTL adjustments FTW :up:
For those browsing the thread this board runs quads at decent overclocks - just don't expect the FSB speeds that made headlines when this board was released (yet - anyway). Not sure if that goes for all quad chips. EF done very well with his 9650. My 9770 is only prime stable at 405FSB so I use that with a multi of 10. At 425FSB it will play games but not bench. Of course there is always variance in the CPU and Mobo so some will be better than others. Worth reading back a few pages as Mezzro has posted some good info for quad users.
For some reason, my board is not stable even @ stock settings with everything on auto. Memtest fails with all three of my RAM kits, SPI 32M is a no go also.Same thing happened to my S2E(actually it was a bit worse) and I am going through this again :mad:.I think I would have to try a bit harder by doing a trial and error with the BIOS settings. Since everything is @ default, it's reading the XMP profile from my Gskill SPD and running the FSB @ 400x7.5 = 3GHZ for my QX9650. I also took the heatsink off, cleaned and applied MX-2 and did the washer mod(I cut up the silicon gormets that came with my V2110B and used it as a washer :D) and my NB idles @ around 43C and it went up to 53C when running SPI 32M. This is @ a VMCH of 1.35V.I put a 120 MM fan over it and it helped a bit(Idle:42C and Load: 47C).I don't know whether these temps are OK or not(comming from 975x->780i->790i->X48). I thought after getting a stable PC @ stock speeds, I could put my raid card and the OCZ ssds and do a review,since I didn't want the instability of my PC to skew up the results. I guess that would have to wait until I get my PC stable @ stock speeds.Any help to get my PC stable @ stock with any of the RAM kits that I have would be appreciated.
Hi Tekjunkie, try setting as much of the bios to manual settings - this worked better for me. Also enter the XMP memory settings manually and use the white DIM slots.
Your temps are fine - I get around 60 degs load at 1.45v with washers and AS5.
I have tried those settings with my QX9770 and it took me from 410fsb to430fsb with 20 minutes OCCT stable - I have stopped oCCT myself so maybe it was fully stable with 1 hour test.
Just wanted to ask - how safe are those settings? in particular CPU PLL and GTL ones. Are they 24/7 settings?
Have tested mine with OCZ 1600 EB Platinum kid 2x2gb sticks and stable from my point of view, playing games, bench some and so on. Here is a SS. I noticed someone had problems to get RE running with this kit so if someone want to know my biossetting, let me know.
http://bandwidth.se/thumbs/10445.jpg
Hi Guys, great thread and contributions - thanks to all. :up:
Been running 0403 for about 2 weeks now, with some early POSTing scares - 'unknown CPU' found and 'WAIT...' message hang entering BIOS. No trouble in recent days though.
http://i447.photobucket.com/albums/q...POST_WAIT2.jpg
Using air and left all the stock cooling in place but put the air cooler (and fan) on instead of the Fusion block. Temps all ok though NB peaks at 46-47c under Prime blend / Memtest HCI at 1.405VNB (set in BIOS). All the blocks and the HPA warm up nicely. Under load board reports Power at 35c or less and Southbridge 35-38c. I think this is ok for 'as shipped', but obviously won't let me go much further for VNB.
Here are some pics of my Noctua NH-U12P cpu cooler which fits both ways with 1 or 2 fans:
Note: pic shows memory in the blue slots (as specified in QVL for this kit) but I switched to the white slots after POST problems above.
http://i447.photobucket.com/albums/q...TURES/ALL3.jpg
Here's where I've got to so far: nothing impressive but further than I thought I might get using OCZ with 1:2 on this board :)
http://i447.photobucket.com/albums/q...8_P958_8_L.jpg
Memory and NB stability
-----------------------
To keep voltages at a min and just get the memory up to rated speed and timings, I worked up in 5mhz steps from 400-450fsb with 1:2, tuning up/down to min stable voltages at each stage. This took much too long but was still worth it for getting to know where I actually was. For that reason I've stuck with 0403 for now.
450fsb with 1:2, was unstable even at 1.45VNB and 1.95VDIMM with 100ps NB CLOCK SKEW delay (set manually to 100 at 410fsb).
Setting NB CLOCK SKEW to 200ps worked very well - at 450fsb, using AUTO / Normal / 100 / 300 gave me early freezes or errors in Prime or Intel (Linpack) and extra voltage did not help, but with 200, it behaves.
After 'finding' 200ps at 450fsb, I was able to lower VNB to 1.405V (min found) and VDIMM to 1.908v (min found) - both 0.05V lower (and stable) than where I was with 100ps (and unstable). 1.405VNB for PL7 @ 450/900/8-8-8-24 with 2x1GB is still a bit higher than I was hoping for though. DRAM SKEWS and NB GTL are currently on AUTO.
At these settings, ClockTwister causes instability if set to Strong or Stronger but at least the 200ps NB CLOCK SKEW allowed Moderate instead of Light.
Unfortunately, can't POST above 430fsb with PL6 and 1:2 (hangs on DET RAM) - tried VNB up to 1.48v + extra VDIMM but doesn't help. Will go back later and try sorting this but for now I'm going to push up from 450fsb keeping to 1:2 with PL7.
With PL7, Clocktwister on Moderate, 2N and slack 8-8-8-8-24, I'm losing memory performance all over the place: gives approx 10.5Gb/s Read with 50ns in Everest at this time.
Thanks to Tony at OCZ for providing some great info in his P5E3 Premium and X48 guides over there - I had a much better idea of when and why I might need to skew after finding those - I think a lot of the info is generally applicable to any X48 board and memory, not just the P5E3 Prem and OCZ.
http://www.ocztechnologyforum.com/fo...ad.php?t=41042
http://www.ocztechnologyforum.com/fo...ad.php?t=40746
CPU Voltage, temps and stability
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After the memory was stable at 900mhz (Orthos/IntelBurn(Linpack)/MemtestHCI/Memtestx86), I found the min CPUVCORE (LLC disabled) for each multi up to 9.5. 4275mhz (9.5) needs 1.33125V (set in BIOS) for 8 hour Prime. High for E8600, but my VID is 1.25 and this chip runs quite cool (Q820A606).
I set CPU clock skew to NORMAL at 400fsb but have not yet found benefit to either 100ps or 200ps delays for Vcore/stability.
Found no need (with dual-core) for extra CPUVTT or PLL at these levels - set manually to 1.10V and 1.510V (both min). Not expecting 450-500fsb to require extra CPUVTT or PLL either. GTLs all at AUTO.
CPU cooler is Noctua NH-U12P + 1 x NF-P12 fan. Hits 55c under Intel at 4275mhz/1.33125V, so it won't get that hot elsewhere. Have second fan for CPU cooler but not tried yet. Max temp shown in screen shot is Real Temp 2.70 which sets TJmax at 95c, which I think is correct (CoreTemp 99.3 auto sets TJmax at 100c but agrees with all temp changes)
Edit: Intel official TjMax 100c (add 5c to quoted temps)
I'm only using Intel for max CPU temps and quick full system tests (10xpass) - errors in here will always give me errors or worse in Prime, so it's quicker for rough stability. Surprisingly to me, condsidering the CPU temps generated by Intel, I found a 0.03125Vcore difference between Intel stable and Prime/Orthos stable with my board/CPU for 450x9.5 - Prime needs the extra Vcore or will restart/freeze/error on small FFTs. This Vcore difference showed the same in OCCT too (OCCT passes with 0.03125 less Vcore than Prime or Orthos). I'm not using LLC.
Well there's no doubt that dual cores perform significantly better then quad but I would like to see some successful quad overclocks at 1:1 which do not exist. Hope new bios will solve many of these problem.
Guys, i just finish installing Thermalright HR-09 S and U for Mosfets. Probe says that Power idle is 36º, load reach 48º. I think is too much hot. Do I need to reinstall the HR?
Power Temp sensor is not on the mosfets It is on the 16 phase power Inductors i believe they are called. At least thats where i have it narrowed down to with a Laser thermometer. Putting a 120 fan blowing on them should keep you under 45 c. If you look right around the CPu socket there are 16 square black things thats what you want to cool
Edit: if you look up a few posts there is some good pics of them they are stamped with White letters 1R0
I'm getting mine tomorrow...can't wait!
Might want to Try the newest real temp it is up to 2.79.4 Intel released the TjMax on 45nm Cpu`s and yours is a 100c TjMaxQuote:
CPU cooler is Noctua NH-U12P + 1 x NF-P12 fan. Hits 55c under Intel at 4275mhz/1.33125V, so it won't get that hot elsewhere. Have second fan for CPU cooler but not tried yet. Max temp shown in screen shot is Real Temp 2.70 which sets TJmax at 95c, which I think is correct (CoreTemp 99.3 auto sets TJmax at 100c but agrees with all temp changes)
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Here is what Intel Officialy released
E8000 and E7000 series100C
Q9000 and Q8000 series100C
QX9650 95C
QX9770 85C
Very interesting...Before installing the HR-09, the POWER temp was around 45-46º load. Now is higher, 48º, as I have already said.
Again I have to uninstall the mobo to try to understand what I have modified about the IR0 cooling with the HR-09 installation...:shakes:
Hi EF - Great run :up: :up:
You either have a gem of a CPU and mobo or the secret to a high FSB is to water cool the CPU & NB. I still can't get anywhere near 450 with mine to run the memory at stock speeds.
...........maybe its just with the 9770 ?.
HI all
got several problems with current setup :(
RE bios v403 / qx9650 / ChellShock MSC (black) pC3-14400 DDR31800/
i am on XP pro 32bit (SP2) / optional SP3 / (components are in signature )
ok - have got qx9650 running @4050mhz Prime (blend mode) About 1hour , -> screen attached ->
but :( so far .. sooner-or-later i will get such ''Corrupt system file'' errors ( error 55 by event log ) - attached screen below ..
and it forces system to run ' Autochk ' program before booting win.XP.
( sometimes it stay in ''endless cycle '' but most times it happen Power OFF/ON will bring it back to xp , but not eliminate the errors)
have to mention that these errors are pointed to random files ..
as you see some samples i capped, but in general it says : ( baloon message )
Windows - corrupt file
the file or directory C:\WINDOWS\system32 is corrupt and unreadable.
Please run the Chkdsk utility
also have noticed .. when it already happens ONCE .. then
the bug remains present .. no matter what settings (overclocked or default / clear cmos / nothing helps .. that (corrupt file) error comes back ..
also i have an other ram kit .. throw them in .. clear cmos .. nothing ..
.. and ( already tried ) several times reinstall XP and, also tried with- and without SP3 .. doesn't make any sense currently :(
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currently on bios v.403
used separate HDD drives / 500GB hitacHi / 250GB WD /
2 different ram kits:
CellShock (MSC CS3222580)
G.SKILL F3-10600CL8D-2GBHK
optional .. but using 8800ultra GFX card with this setup ( driver v. 177.83 also tried earlier drivers)
I am NOT running any RAID conf. things here .. just as simple 1 HDD - 1 DVD drive
(it show configure SATA as IDE / enhanched ) ... in hdd conf page in bios
so far i have tried to cross-switch as many components as available, starting from sata cables and even PSU (spare 650W Chieftec) but cannot get over this error ..
:( btw in some state i got same errors when run dualcore E8400 on that board )
Does somebody have seen something similar malfunctions or errors ?
THANK YOU :) any tips and ideas will be welcome
hi
I think rampage extreme dont like Csx 2x2 ddr3 2000 because up 630 just reboot, go to windows and bsod.
I need a little help....
I have the Rampage Extreme and 4870x2 and I keep getting the BSOD. It doesnt happen all the time but it does happen. The cpu I'm using is QX6850 with 4g(2+2) Cosair Dominator 1800. I'm running everything on air until I get the bugs worked out just incase I need to RMA it. Has anyone else had this issue or currently are?
Im not currently OC just the RAM voltage which is 1.9 as Corsair recommends. I have read that maybe it the temp of the 4870x2 or the board need to be OC or maybe something to due with the RAM.
Thanks in advance
You ever heard of the edify that any experiment can only be conclusive when the set standards are met and accomplished? Otherwise it's still a hypothesis;)
This should be sticked since the variety of small values such as NB CLOCK SKEW or Clock Twister ( new one for me:rolleyes:) can have significant effects on a system. Yes temps, memory use and even ambient temperatures are a factor but I'm sure we can all agree that other than memory modules, the multitude of variances in the bios are quesionable values that can solve alot of headaches so comparing helps and we may discover some consistences in negative or positive values. So I don't care about prime, memory posts blah, blah blah - If you say it's stable then I trust you but give us all an opportunity to see what you've accomplished in bios settings!
How Can You Have Any Pudding If You Don't Eat Your Meat Pink Floyd
Extreme Tweaker Menu
CPU FSB - Auto
CPU Level Up - Auto
-cpu configuration
-cpu clock skew - Auto
-nb clock skew - Auto
FSB Strap to North Bridge - Auto
DRAM FREQUENCY - Auto
DRAM Command Rate - Auto
DRAM Timing Control - Auto
*1st information : 7-7-7-18-80-12-6
*2nd informaion : 8-6-6-4-7-4-7
*3rd information : 23-8-1-8-8
DRAM Static Read Control - Auto
DRAM Dynamic Write Control - Auto
-DRAM Skew Control
Ai Clock Twister - Auto
Ai Transaction Booster - Auto
*C/P : A1 A2
*LVL : 07 07
EPU II Phase Control - Auto
-----------------------------------------------------------------
*** Please Key in Numbers or select voltage!***
CPU Voltage - 1.35
Load-Line Calibration - Auto
CPU PLL Voltage - Auto
FSB Termination Voltage - Auto
CPU GTLVref (o) - Auto
CPU GTLVref (1) - Auto
CPU GTLVref (2) - Auto
CPU GTLVref (3) - Auto
NB GTLVref - Auto
North Bridge Voltage - Auto
DRAM Voltage -Auto
NB DDRVref - Auto
DDR3 ChannelA Vref - Auto
DDR3 ChannelB Vref - Auto
South Bridge 1.5 Voltage - Auto
South Bridge 1.05 Voltage - Auto
**********************************************
CPU Spread Spectrum - Auto
PCIE Spread Spectrum - Auto
Temps
voltage settings
You said "quad overclocks at 1:1 which do not exist", which is not true, and has been stated to be acheveable in numerous prior posts. I'm simply pointing out the fact.
Now that the "if" it exists is settled, the "how" will follow since you asked nicely ;)
Tuner Manual
FSB 460
Ratio 8.5
Strap 266
DRAM 1843
CR 1N
7-6-5-18
DRAM SRC Disable
DRAM DWC Disable
Twister Moderate
Booster Manual
PL 06
VCore 1.50
LLC Disable
PLL 1.53
FSBT 1.36
VMCH1.53
VDIMM 2.06
VSB 1.51
Spread Disable
everything else is on auto/default. Kit in sig, note especially the memory and WCed NB. Enjoy!
edit: vary your VCore to suit your CPU, try at 8x first. The VDroop on this board is around 0.8V without LLC, and -0.04 with.
Oh BTW Think when you game with your 4870X2 can you hear a pretty high pitch noise when you put your ear close to it? just wondering as I've just got mine and the sound is pretty hard to locate... but since it started after adding in the card it's most probably that caused the sound. Otherwise it's an awsome piece of hardware :D
Thanks.
Do you have any images on the water cooled setup you have? I'm sure that one of my problems is temps which will soon be solved with the addition of a tripple rad in the loop.
:):up: thank rob2k for suggestion for mysystem instable dengan processor QX9770
i start to :
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=414471
FSB 450 x 7,5 = 3.375 GHZ
setting ai oc tuner must be XMP (extreme memory profile, profile 1),
if i setting ai oc tuner manual/auto with :
DRAM freq : 1800
Dram command rate : 1N
Dram timing control : manual 8-8-8-22
vcore : 1.34375v
vdimm : 1.94v
North Bridge : 1.44472
hangs on DET RAM:confused:
I tried to increase the voltage of the vcore, vdimm and NB, but it stays 'hang on DET RAM'. So I returned to ai oc tuner : XMP is not hang on det RAM and I can come into the windows, I can pass the the super pi 1M test, but failed at super pi 4M, and test prime95 is instable.
What it looks like now... but it looks different day to day when I'm testing hardware :D
http://gallery.me.com/jeffrey_lee/10...12218450220001
http://gallery.me.com/jeffrey_lee/10...12218450080001
http://gallery.me.com/jeffrey_lee/10...12218450150001
Overkill much? :rofl: The fans on the rads and system are barely spinning though... Silence is bliss :up:
Hey EF, I see you went with a different heatsink above the RAM. Is the stock one really that bad?
Also, I'm guessing you used Arctic Silver Thermal Adhesive on those heatsinks?
Not at all. Considering what you had to deal with :)
BTW rampage owners I found a strange flaw that was the cause of major headaches for me. Memtest86 cd iso on a sata drive is terrible!. The cd will start, then stop then start and on occassion I would recieve a black screen with 8004, then another number will appear and repeat itself - number 1015...then mem would begin.
I downloaded the memtest86+ version 2.0 and used a usb floppy and it boots significantly faster in memorytest86.
You can download it here:
http://www.memtest.org/
This is the PLUS version and not the memorytest86 version 3.4
I've witnessed this before when using a sata drive on a giga-byte motherboard but never saw these scrolling numbers.
Memtest wont even boot at all on my Esata DVD drive. What i did was hook it up via USB and it boots fine. Thought that Esata would be better but this sata DVD seems to perform better on USB. Glad this external DVD has both Esata and USB ports on it . I just leave it hooked up USB now days
Yeah i had the same thing happen. Took the board back out and made sure the mosfet blocks were making good contact. Same thing when putting it back in. I have been trying to dig up something on this power sensor and cant find a thing. I too thought it was for the mosfets but as far as i can tell it seems to be on the inductors. The caps that are row closer to the CPU get pretty hot too. But the temp of the inductors matches the Temp of power sensors at least from my tests. I could be wrong , but with out ASUS posting what this sensor is hooked to i am just guessing. If anyone knows any thing Differant Please share your knowledge
eternal_fantasy, do you recommend running those 4 sticks of cellshock to get 4gb, or do you think a 2x2gb solution would be better? Basically, how hard was your memory to overclock with 4 sticks.
If any of those kits have reached 1600, I'd get one...I don't know of any, though.
I would seriously love a system with 8gb of ram, but the only ones I know of run at unacceptably slow speeds. They're also DDR2. :p:
I picked up the board today with a 2x2GB set of these.
We'll see how they do...
Hello, everybody. I've followed this tread at the very first beginning and really enjoyed...
I got the board for a week ago, but have some issues with the cooling. I use Thermalright IFX-14, but it seems to be pretty big and can't install the heatsink for the NB, so the temps in idle are over 60C :shocked:
So, I have to think some variations to solve this problem:
1.Try to put on the NB Thermalright HR-05 SLI/IFX, but I'm not sure it'll fit.
2.Change the IFX-14 with TRUE Black 120, which is smaller and hope to can mount the NB stock hetsink.
3.I really want to have watercooling system, but I planned it in few months, BUT I can get just for testing and enjoying the watercooling, one Reserator II. And put all kind of heatsinks on the necessary parts [like eternal_fantasy (admirations btw)]
So, do you think the Reserator 2 will be effective or the other variants? I'm not looking for highest clock...
Actually I put the idea for the Reserator II in my mind and can't get it out of there :)
I have reinstalled it very carefully, the HR-09. I renewed his thermal pad and i have worked hard to ensure that the HR-09 and 1R0 are very close but not make contact. It seems that i have improved around three degrees.
I've been tempted to use Céramique, i dont like the thicks Thermalright´s pads. But the thermal paste is not the best solution for the mosfets. Perhaps the best solution is to search in the market and use better thermal pads. And/or to stick littles heatsinks in the 1R0.
1-I have the HR-05 SLI/IFX, with a 8"/1,5 cm fan. It fits very well, with a TRUE. Temps around 43º idle NB (in 27º ambient - 1.47v NB).Quote:
So, I have to think some variations to solve this problem:
1.Try to put on the NB Thermalright HR-05 SLI/IFX, but I'm not sure it'll fit.
2.Change the IFX-14 with TRUE Black 120, which is smaller and hope to can mount the NB stock hetsink.
3.I really want to have watercooling system, but I planned it in few months, BUT I can get just for testing and enjoying the watercooling, one Reserator II. And put all kind of heatsinks on the necessary parts [like eternal_fantasy (admirations btw)]
So, do you think the Reserator 2 will be effective or the other variants? I'm not looking for highest clock...
Actually I put the idea for the Reserator II in my mind and can't get it out of there
2-The TRUE leave to use the extra stock heatsink.
3-Idem. Next step: water.
about the PWM temperature sensor, i wouldn't worry about it at all. as JaVa_Az has eluded to, it is not a direct MOSFET temp sensor like on the Abit boards because if it were, there would be a whole bunch of them, not just a single temp sensor. it has to be just a surface mount sensor that is somwhere near the PWM area and again like JaVa_Az has eluded too, might be closer to the inductors than the MOSFETs.
i can't say either way but when bringing temps down with LN2 or the phase, it is the first temp to start dropping below zero, sometimes even before the CPU starts to plummet so it wouldn't surprise me if it is very close to the CPU socket. in fact, this red component strikes me as out of place and odd in every sense of the word....
http://3oh6.com/forum_posted/reviews...pwr_temp-1.jpg
notice no other surface mount caps or resistors near the solid electrolytic capacitors or inductors except these two...and when was the last time you saw a red surface mount capacitor or resistor? i deal with a lot of surface mount temp sensors at work and they are all plastic bodied components like a transistor but the looks of this component says it is not a cap or resistor at all. the end caps of the red component are not like a capacitor or resistor at all as well looking at it now. just my educated guess at the power temp readout.
Just had a look for that component on my spare RE, and instead of being the red colour like in your picture, mine is totally black :D looks like any ordinary cap/resistor in the black colour... although it seems to be the most likely component... if intrested I can post a snap of it :up:
Maybe try using a can of compressed air and spray a little upside down on that component? if the temp of it plummets then you've got your sensor :D
Just tried it... a little localized spray and it dropped from 42C to 15C :rofl: GREAT JOB Jody!!
guys i have a big problem...
my kit of 2x1 gb csx diablo 2000 arrived but i cant run them a 1000 8-7-6-19 on my rampage extreme.
i tryed on single channel both modules and i can run @ 1000 8-7-6-19 2,08v but on dual channel wih both modules on i cannot be stable... someone can help me ? i tryed all strap 266/333/400 vNB 1,6 and greater, vpll 1,55 vtt 1,4 vram 2,08 up to 2,16 but nothing ... i tryed pl 7-8-9 but the same.. i tryed NB ref +12,5 but nothing...
help pls
Damn, I'm starting to really love this board. Can't run my memory at 1600 but 4 ghz is not a problem at all with the basics of water cooling. 3dmark2006 hitting 22800 with the 4870x2 at default settings. There's a huge learning curve to learn about in this bios...boy oh boy, feel like I'm make in my 1st year of College (barf!). Cant's wait for Greg at Mushkin to get his hands dirty.
haha, excellent, i figured it had to be after a quick look the second time this came up in this thread. the CPU cooler i am using covers it or i would have tried putting something warm on it but your method is much more industrious and 100% definitive :up:
so yeah folks, take the Power temp reading with a grain of salt, it is nothing more than a surface mount sensor ;)
ram issues
guys with issues clocking ram please make sure to understand the ic's your modules use and always always on asus boards use the #2 and #4 ram slots 'WHITE SLOTS' to clock high/tight timings and when you use 2x2 gig sets as these are the strongest slots on the ramapge extreme :)