The Official Core 2 Duo Overclocking Thread

Hi all,

I need some serious help here!

I just built a Core2Duo E6300 system with an ASUS P5B delux board and I updated the BIOS. I am using the retail kit and heatsink. My system is heating up and I need your help to figure out what to do here. Everything is at default (not overclocked). Volts are as follows:
1.136
3.248
5.017
12.249

With the heatsink on (not sure if it is seated 100% properly tho) I get around 90c. With the heatsink off it goes through 106c in under a minute. This is all under no stress.

Should I just send something back for an exchange?
Or am I missing something (a tweak or something) here?

What is at fault...the chip or the mobo? I tried to touch the chip with the heatsink off. I was able to touch it. Not too sure of it's temperature tho. So maybe the mobo is just recording it wrong?

Is there some IRC channel that I can jump on so it might make talking this out easier?

Thanks sooo much for any help you can provide!
Aaron

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Originally Posted by dropandhop

With the heatsink off...

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I think it'd be a good idea to reread instructions before you hurt something.

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Originally Posted by dropandhop

Hi all,

I need some serious help here!

I just built a Core2Duo E6300 system with an ASUS P5B delux board and I updated the BIOS. I am using the retail kit and heatsink. My system is heating up and I need your help to figure out what to do here. Everything is at default (not overclocked). Volts are as follows:
1.136
3.248
5.017
12.249

With the heatsink on (not sure if it is seated 100% properly tho) I get around 90c. With the heatsink off it goes through 106c in under a minute. This is all under no stress.

Should I just send something back for an exchange?
Or am I missing something (a tweak or something) here?

What is at fault...the chip or the mobo? I tried to touch the chip with the heatsink off. I was able to touch it. Not too sure of it's temperature tho. So maybe the mobo is just recording it wrong?

Is there some IRC channel that I can jump on so it might make talking this out easier?

Thanks sooo much for any help you can provide!
Aaron

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NEVER take the HSF off of the processor unless you want a crispy chip. If you are hitting 90 Degrees at idle, you have a problem. Reapply the thermal compound (preferably a high grade version like Arctic Silver 5) and reseat the HSF.

What program are you using to check the Temp? The Bios?

Thanks for the feedback guys,

Wow, I didn't think it was so huge to run the chip without a heatsink. Especially because I read somewhere that folks have experienced 50C without any heatsink on.

When I did run it without the heatsink on it did heat up incredibly hot and then the machine turned itself off. So it seems to have some safety mechanicsm. I thought they introduced such protections a while ago, so you don't blow your chip up.

Am I wrong in thinking all of this? Can you still melt your chip in a system?

I am reading the temps off of BIOS and then when I am in win- the asus software. I think they call it Probe.

I did not apply any thermal paste or tape. I am using the retail heatsink kit that came with the chip. I belive it has some stuff built into it. It leaves some greyish residue on the chip, so there definately seems to be something. It isn't the best (so I read), but a top quality paste shouldn't bring down my temperature by 40C or wherever I should be reading. It should only affect several degrees. So I will definately worry about that after I get my machine down to an acceptable range.

Any feedback? I am certainly open for ideas here.

Do I blame the chip or the mobo?

Thanks once again!
Aaron

you need to use fresh paste after every time you reseat the heatsink.

and running without the heatsink usually wont kill it, but it's is by no means good for it and it very well can kill it, especially if it heats up faster then the throttle kicks in.

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Originally Posted by dropandhop

I need some serious help here!

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Ohhhhhhhh Lord... :rolleyes:
Where to begin? I really couldnt reisist this one.

Your temps are over double what they should be, so obviously you haven't done something right. It's somewhat painful to hear you say things like:

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I did not apply any thermal paste or tape.

I tried to touch the chip with the heatsink off.

When I did run it without the heatsink on it did heat up incredibly hot and then the machine turned itself off.

Wow, I didn't think it was so huge to run the chip without a heatsink.

Should I just send something back for an exchange?

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And my personal favorites:

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Do I blame the chip or the mobo?
What is at fault...the chip or the mobo?

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Those last ones get me... I'm NOT trying to pick on you, but just need to learn before you mess up your hardware and blame someone else. Its like draining the oil and coolant from your car and then starting it, revving it to redline and popping it in gear and then blaming the car manufacturer. :stick: If you spend some time reading, you'll get a lot more out of this hobby and it will be much more enjoyable for you. I'd really hate to see you permanently damage anything and be out more $$$$.

Anyway, with that out of the way, it sounds like you need to clean your cpu and heatsink and start from scratch. You can buy one of those arcticlean kits or use alcohol... search on here for all that info. Be careful to follow the instructions exactly for installing the stock heatsink, and also proper application of thermal compound. Its a very precise and tight fit. I'm sure if you take a step back and do some reading up on the basics, you'll find what you need, and your temps will be much more reasonable.

Good luck dude, and for F***-sake be careful and don't run without some form of cooling for the CPU!! ;) :stick:

(EDIT: I'm not trying to sound mean, and I'm sorry if it came across that way.)

E6600
Stepping: L631-A500
1.35v Bios - 1.280v CPU-Z
3300mhz so far is that good?

Orthos priming right now Small FFT's 24 minutes so far.

I have a question about voltages when overclocking...

Right now I have my E6300 stable at 3.22ghz, 460fsb, 1.350 vcore, 2.0 vdimm.

MCH and FSB voltages are both still at default, and the question is, if I am wanting to get a higher OC, do I need to set the MCH and/or FSB to a higher voltage first, or should I try upping the vcore again (don't really want to...heat is becoming an issue) or vdimm?
To summarize: what voltages should I increase first at this point to avoid unnecessary voltage increases to become stable at a higher frequency?

I can't really seem to find any solid info on what to do with the MCH and FSB voltages.

Thanks!

^^ I'm with Darcon, sort of ;)

I had my E6600 booting at 400FSB/3600mhz, but to do that I had to up the vcore to 1.55 and it wasn't Orthos stable. What should I tweak to make that clock Orthos stable? This is on an eVGA 680i board with the latest BIOS. RAM is running at 400mhz @ 4-4-412. Currently the FSB is running at 1.4v, but because my northbridge isn't watercooled like my CPU, I am a little worried about raising it.

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Originally Posted by darcon

I have a question about voltages when overclocking...

Right now I have my E6300 stable at 3.22ghz, 460fsb, 1.350 vcore, 2.0 vdimm.

MCH and FSB voltages are both still at default, and the question is, if I am wanting to get a higher OC, do I need to set the MCH and/or FSB to a higher voltage first, or should I try upping the vcore again (don't really want to...heat is becoming an issue) or vdimm?
To summarize: what voltages should I increase first at this point to avoid unnecessary voltage increases to become stable at a higher frequency?

I can't really seem to find any solid info on what to do with the MCH and FSB voltages.

Thanks!

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Every board is different but I use AUTO for everything except Vcore and Vdimm :)

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b2...0ne/E633-1.jpg

So I did some further testing on my 680i, and it seems anything over FSB 375 or so starts to make Orthos unstable. Even if I put the FSB at 1.5v, and run a VCore of 1.5v, FSB's over 375 start to become stable. At multi 8 the system won't even boot at FSB 425 or above, and is shaky at 400.

I am starting to wonder if this is an issue with the 680i board, like a FSB wall I've hit, or if I just have something set wrong.

I'm at 3.6ghz 30 minutes orthos stable.

L631A500
1.468v bios
1.4V under full load

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Originally Posted by X.T.R.E.M.E_ICE

I'm at 3.6ghz 30 minutes orthos stable.

L631A500
1.468v bios
1.4V under full load

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What are your various settings? Multi, FSB, VDimm, memory timings/clocks, etc? I am curious why I can't get my E6600 (which is a week 30) stable at 3.6ghz on the same board.

Looks like the eVGA nForce 680i boards have a Vdroop thats as bad as the Anus P5W and P5B Dlx boards :rolleyes: :slapass:

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Originally Posted by GnomeTank

What are your various settings? Multi, FSB, VDimm, memory timings/clocks, etc? I am curious why I can't get my E6600 (which is a week 30) stable at 3.6ghz on the same board.

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I hope this helps.



http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/859...4vfulllkt7.jpg

E6600 L630A753
ASUS P5W64WS Pro with BIOS 0301
Watercooled CPU & NB, water +28'C/82.4F
From BIOS 1.500Vcore, Probe 1.500V and measured with DMM from mobo 1.536V :cool:

http://koti.mbnet.fi/dani69/ASUS_P5W...0Vcore_+2h.gif

Very nice Dani :toast:

They (Anus) can make the P5W64WS without Vdroop so I wonder why its so 'kin hard to do the same with the P5W/P5B Dlx :rolleyes:

All I want is to set and get what I have set so why is it soooo hard :(

Thanks for more feedback on my situation.

It's OK for being harsh. But please realize that I have been doing this for years. Of course, there are always things I can learn and this is my first Core2Duo system. But I didn't run my system into the ground. I strategically ran it without the heatsink to see if I could judge how hot the chip was running. So I could better determine if the mobo readings were wacked.

So moving on...I would love some more insight from you guys. I re-seated my heatsink onto my chip and ran some tests to see if they were reveiling at all. I did not re-apply any thermal paste (I was using the stuff that was pre-applied with the intel retail kit). So I do understand that my numbers will be increased, because this is not the proper way to do this. As you will see below, my numbers are still incredibly high. I wonder how much re-applying new thermal paste could actually help. at the very, very maximum 10C- no?

Under idle:
ASUS Probe: 59C
Core Temp v.94: Tjunction- 85C Core #0- 62C Core #1- 57C

For the full load test I used Winstress 1.5 set to 100% for about 5 minutes testing CPU, FPU and MMX:
The results leveled off at:
ASUS Probe: 82C
Core Temp v.94: Tjunction- 85C Core #0- 85C Core #1- 81C

Some more figures:
Mobo- ASUS P5B Deluxe
Chip- E6300 Core2Duo stock settings as follows per ASUS Prob:
1.14V sometimes 1.15V
3.25V
5.02V
12.25V
MB- 28C
CPU fan- 1730RPM
Chassis fan- 1125RPM

It was weird that my Tjunction didn't move at all during this process- not once. Is this normal? And why was it always so high?

So what do you guys make of all these numbers? I can't imagine that new thermal paste will bring me under 60C with maximum load, and under 40C idle (those are about the normal Core Temp readings that I should expect- right? or am I off on those?)

What do I blame this on? My chip or mobo?
Are there other tests that I could run that would help you compare my system to where it should be?

Any insight at all would be helpful.

Thanks yet again...you all have been a great help.
Aaron

E6300 L625A

3400 MHz Prime Stable (1.35V) | TT 120 | ASUS P5B Deluxe, 0804 BIOS

Vdimm: 2.3V, 4-4-4-12

Proof

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Originally Posted by dropandhop

Thanks for more feedback on my situation.

It's OK for being harsh. But please realize that I have been doing this for years. Of course, there are always things I can learn and this is my first Core2Duo system. But I didn't run my system into the ground. I strategically ran it without the heatsink to see if I could judge how hot the chip was running. So I could better determine if the mobo readings were wacked.

So moving on...I would love some more insight from you guys. I re-seated my heatsink onto my chip and ran some tests to see if they were reveiling at all. I did not re-apply any thermal paste (I was using the stuff that was pre-applied with the intel retail kit). So I do understand that my numbers will be increased, because this is not the proper way to do this. As you will see below, my numbers are still incredibly high. I wonder how much re-applying new thermal paste could actually help. at the very, very maximum 10C- no?

Under idle:
ASUS Probe: 59C
Core Temp v.94: Tjunction- 85C Core #0- 62C Core #1- 57C

For the full load test I used Winstress 1.5 set to 100% for about 5 minutes testing CPU, FPU and MMX:
The results leveled off at:
ASUS Probe: 82C
Core Temp v.94: Tjunction- 85C Core #0- 85C Core #1- 81C

Some more figures:
Mobo- ASUS P5B Deluxe
Chip- E6300 Core2Duo stock settings as follows per ASUS Prob:
1.14V sometimes 1.15V
3.25V
5.02V
12.25V
MB- 28C
CPU fan- 1730RPM
Chassis fan- 1125RPM

It was weird that my Tjunction didn't move at all during this process- not once. Is this normal? And why was it always so high?

So what do you guys make of all these numbers? I can't imagine that new thermal paste will bring me under 60C with maximum load, and under 40C idle (those are about the normal Core Temp readings that I should expect- right? or am I off on those?)

What do I blame this on? My chip or mobo?
Are there other tests that I could run that would help you compare my system to where it should be?

Any insight at all would be helpful.

Thanks yet again...you all have been a great help.
Aaron

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You'd be amazed at what good thermal paste can do. Your chip should be idling about 38C (where mine idles at with stock voltage, etc.). When I have my comp maxed while folding it hits about 58C max. When I first used my stock HSF, I tried the paste it came with, and I had to reseat and reapply mine as well. AS5 might just do the trick. Even if it were to take you down ten Degrees, you'd be idling about 45-48, which is still agreeable. Based on the info you posted, the Mobo doesn't appear to be overvolting your CPU or anything strange, seems normal enough. The Bios can sometimes read the temps a little high, although I thought the later Bios releases had fixed much of this. The temp of your chip seems to be dependant on the HSF at this point, so I'd take the time to reseat it again and redo the thermal paste. The simple fact that the temps came down a bit when you reseated it tells me the problem lies therein...

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Originally Posted by dropandhop

Wow, I didn't think it was so huge to run the chip without a heatsink.

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:clap: :clap: :clap:

Dont spend 300 dollars on a processor uneducated-ly. at least know what youre doing before you try and use it... wow


heres my oc

E6600 L626 B089, vcore 1.48, evga 680i, 2 gigs corsair 8500c5d.
Zalman 9500 for cooling.

it is also 24 hrs dual orthos stable, but forgot to take screencapture of that.

http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o...ffbiff21/3.jpg

dropandhop

~60C is a sure sign something is wrong !

Take a look here http://processorfinder.intel.com/det...px?sSpec=SL9SA
and specifically : Thermal Specification : 61.4°C

Take the Mobo out , CPU off , and INSPECT with a Magnifying Glass the mobo and socket for any anomaly - burnt colors , dirt etc .

The E6300 usually idles under Air at 30-35C ( ambient dependant ) .

If you can't get normal temps, replace the mobo , since it may fail and take more hardware down with it.

Ok. You are all pretty much screaming with great OC's.

This is what I've experienced. I'm using my second C2D/ The first was E6600: L628B368 and my second is L631A454. I got my fist up to 3600 easily on the setup in my sig. My second is seeming to be a different fish... I'm now at 2990 and it was a struggle with lots of tweeking. It seems that the B chip is taking less volts but is reluctant to go over 400 fsb.

What does the different batch numbers mean (L628B vs. L631A) and what are others experiences in switching CPU's?

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Originally Posted by Ancient1

dropandhop
~60C is a sure sign something is wrong !
Take a look here http://processorfinder.intel.com/det...px?sSpec=SL9SA
and specifically : Thermal Specification : 61.4°C

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Yea right - 61.4C in this case means a temperature measured in the geometric centre of the heatspreader. Coretemp reads the temperature using DTS, which max is 85C. So there's nothing wrong.

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Originally Posted by Budwise

anyone getting any newer week E6600's? The latest ive seen is 28. Any 29's or 30's floating around?

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Mine is week 32 :)

Just upgraded from my old A64 3000+:
E6300 L628A221 & Scythe Mine
ASUS P5B Deluxe Wi-Fi/AP(0804)
2x1GB Kingmax PC4300
Seasonic S12-430

And after some overclocking, this is what I managed to achieve:

http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/6509/primelg3.th.jpg
http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/3554/111ee3.th.jpg

Now trying to get prime stable over 3,1Ghz.

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Originally Posted by Blackoberst

Just upgraded from my old A64 3000+:
E6300 L628A221 & Scythe Mine
ASUS P5B Deluxe Wi-Fi/AP(0804)
2x1GB Kingmax PC4300
Seasonic S12-430

And after some overclocking, this is what I managed to achieve:
Now trying to get prime stable over 3,1Ghz.

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Nice OC Blackoberst, that must seem like you have upgraded to a supercomputer :eek: :banana:

..I got a new D975xbx2 last week and when I was in the bios I noticed a Performance tab that I've never seen before. I entered it and realized that it was related to overclocking. This raised my curiosity and the next thing you know I was on Google reasearching. Every query I posted on Google pointed me to XtremeSystems.org. :) So I've read a lot of post here. I attempted overclocking for the first time last night and managed 2.3GHz. I updated my bios today, played around in the bios and managed 2856.5MHz.

Couple of questions for you guys:

1. CPU-Z indicates I have a Conroe and Core Temp Beta indicates I have and Allendale?

2. I'm using Kingston DDR2 533, do you guys have a recommended type to use, ie. Crucial Ballistix DDR2 1000 for better overclocking?

3. Finally, all suggested bios setting for a noob(myself) are welcome :rolleyes:

I can only get up to 408 before my system would error indicating a failed bios setting.

I'm going to run Orthos until I wake up, about 9 hours from now :D

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...1&d=1168751001

Thanks a bunch,

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Originally Posted by alpha0ne

Nice OC Blackoberst, that must seem like you have upgraded to a supercomputer :eek: :banana:

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Thanks, alpha0ne! I'm stil amazed by those Kingmax DDR2 533 sticks. I was hoping max 800mhz but they went pretty much up, and I wasn't expecting that. And my C2D also, but in this case I knew it could go far. :rolleyes:

New results:

Update:
E6300 1.866Ghz@3.430Ghz prime stable
vCore - 1.450(bios), 1.400(load), 1.416(idle)
vMem - 2.25
vFSB - 1.450
vMCH - 1.450
vSB - 1.6

http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/893/prime3430tb4.jpg

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and some Orthos:

http://img296.imageshack.us/img296/5016/orthosrc6.jpg

Nice OC but I'd try and get those temps down a bit if I were you......

Those temps seem very strange to me. I've touched the base of heatsink, and it's warm. At 68C should be hot, so I don't think they're real.

Be warned that Intel's spec state 61.4C max temp.
use CoreTemp ASAP , but even 50C is too much for everyday

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Originally Posted by Ancient1

...but even 50C is too much for everyday

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You're kidding me, right? I load more than that w/ stock Intel HSF and stock volts/speed...

After a few mobos and chips. This is where my system is at. :toast:

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Originally Posted by Ancient1

Be warned that Intel's spec state 61.4C max temp.
use CoreTemp ASAP , but even 50C is too much for everyday

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There was bad contact or AS5 applied incorectly. And that's not for everyday use. I removed the heatsink, and put some new AS5(vertical line in center of HS) and I got lower temps.
Daily use is 3.1Ghz, 1.35 and arround 47C idle in TAT.

@ K.I.T.T.

referring to post #146

Are you ever going to add me to your data base?

X6800 2.93MHz running at 3.85MHz. EVGA 680I MB Super Pi 32M in 14min 31sec stable at 1.5825 V
FSB at 1400, Corsair PC8888 RAM running at 1200 2.5V

CPU is cooled by CoolIt TEC cooler
Everything else is air cooled for now.

3DMark06: http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=1049480

had my system a few days now...still playing with the memory (new to DDR2), but overall this is nice.

old system:
opteron 146 @ 2.9
dfi ultra-d
2x512mb mushkin redline

new stuff in sig, o/c as of right now is:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v8...2004stable.jpg

Load temp is around 50c

Here's the weird thing: I can boot @ 479fsb no problem, but 480 is a no go. Anyone else have this problem?

Hi there, I am new here, but member for a while lol. What is the highest 6300 oc so far on air??

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Originally Posted by DamienKC

had my system a few days now...still playing with the memory (new to DDR2), but overall this is nice.

old system:
opteron 146 @ 2.9
dfi ultra-d
2x512mb mushkin redline

new stuff in sig, o/c as of right now is:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v8...2004stable.jpg

Load temp is around 50c

Here's the weird thing: I can boot @ 479fsb no problem, but 480 is a no go. Anyone else have this problem?

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I would guess its your memory.. or is it usual to run 800mhz sticks up to 1000mhz ?

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Originally Posted by semiskilled

I would guess its your memory.. or is it usual to run 800mhz sticks up to 1000mhz ?

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There are only a small minority of really crap DDR2 that wont run @ 1000MHz with the right combination of timings and Vdimm :fact: :)

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Originally Posted by alpha0ne

There are only a small minority of really crap DDR2 that wont run @ 1000MHz with the right combination of timings and Vdimm :fact: :)

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Which one is better? 4-4-4-12 800mhz or 5-5-5-15 1000mhz
On what timings wont it be worth the 200mhz extra?

I would say that 1000mhz 5-5-5-15 would be quicker.

Drager2 - 4040 (1.7v in bios) L630A406 | Chiller | Asus P5B Dlx 1.03G 0908 unmodded | Geil PC8500 Plus @ 2.45v 1010MHz 4-4-4-12
http://images.people.overclockers.ru/107439.jpg wprime 1024m stable

nope it's definitely not the ram, I've tested it up to around 520 using 667 with no issues, and that was on 2.0v. From what I read in the biostar thread, there's a few other people with 6300's and my board that have the exact same problem...will boot at 379 no problem, but 380 is no go. My chip is stable @ 475 or so on 1.41v, but no matter how many volts I put through everything, it just won't boot at 480. Kinda disappointing to be honest :\

People, these can take more than 50C 24/7. Merom is the same core in a notebook, and before I downloaded I8KFanGUI cpu temps in dual prime where like 75C. even saw 80C before the high speed fans kicked in. Sames cores, so dont tell me they cannot take 50. Yes, TCase are different, but I would say anything 60C or below is 100% fine.

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Originally Posted by Rickster_64

Yes, TCase are different, but I would say anything 60C or below is 100% fine.

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Agreed 100% :)

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Originally Posted by DamienKC

nope it's definitely not the ram, I've tested it up to around 520 using 667 with no issues, and that was on 2.0v. From what I read in the biostar thread, there's a few other people with 6300's and my board that have the exact same problem...will boot at 379 no problem, but 380 is no go. My chip is stable @ 475 or so on 1.41v, but no matter how many volts I put through everything, it just won't boot at 480. Kinda disappointing to be honest :\

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Leave it at 266 in the bios, and use clockgen in windows. I had the same limitation, and I was able to get to ~430 with my ram using that technique.

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Originally Posted by Rickster_64

Leave it at 266 in the bios, and use clockgen in windows. I had the same limitation, and I was able to get to ~430 with my ram using that technique.

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That didn't work :\

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Originally Posted by Blackoberst

Those temps seem very strange to me. I've touched the base of heatsink, and it's warm. At 68C should be hot, so I don't think they're real.

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I think this also, the base of my Tuniq Tower120 is barely warm at 83C :shrug:
http://i16.tinypic.com/2rp41hg.jpg

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Originally Posted by rick_fx

I think this also, the base of my Tuniq Tower120 is barely warm at 83C :shrug:

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If its barely warm @ 83C then the contact between the sink and CPU must be very bad, you really need to check the TIM

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Originally Posted by alpha0ne

If its barely warm @ 83C then the contact between the sink and CPU must be very bad, you really need to check the TIM

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False, CPU and heatsink are lapped and contact is excellent ;)

Lapping CPU and heatsink gave me an 11C load temps drop :)

Enable PECI in CPU features to get reliable Temp readings ?
C2D rated max temp is 61.4C !

Ancient1 Up, especially for subzero temps. Rated = not real ;)

I got my new E6600. It´s a L629B172. Has someone made any experiences with the stepping?

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Originally Posted by 0verl0ad

I got my new E6600. It´s a L629B172. Has someone made any experiences with the stepping?

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it should be a really good one. Everyone wants to get their hands on the "B" chips because they will do higher clocks at lower voltages, but they seem to run a little hotter at the same volts/speeds as a comparable "A" chip. Have fun with it, should hit 3.6GHz easily id imagine, but of course YMMV

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Originally Posted by Ancient1

Enable PECI in CPU features to get reliable Temp readings ?
C2D rated max temp is 64C !

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I never thought I'd read such comments on this forum. :rolleyes:

This is XtremeSystems, FYI

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Originally Posted by Miwo

it should be a really good one. Everyone wants to get their hands on the "B" chips because they will do higher clocks at lower voltages, but they seem to run a little hotter at the same volts/speeds as a comparable "A" chip. Have fun with it, should hit 3.6GHz easily id imagine, but of course YMMV

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Maybe the CPU could reach this. But not with my board. It has a xtrem vcore drop (set to 1,7v in bios an 1,52v under load). And it seems that my board doesnt like my e6600. Every mhz over ~380mhz fsb is unstable. with my e6400 i could set it up to 500+.

E6700 L617B
DFI RD600
Tuniq Tower 120 ; Air temp = 22C

3867Mhz at 1.52V :)
http://i18.tinypic.com/2eb74wo.jpg

Anyone tested MX-1 on C2D?
I ran out of AS5 and put some MX-1. Now I have to wait a few days to see the results.

What a useless thread this is. He hasn't updated the db since August of 2006 :mad: .:slapass:

rick_fx

There's a difference between nicely fried French and over done French Fries LOL

I helped a guy with OC and overall modding.. his P4 805 ran at 69C when Intel states 64C is max. When I slowed the CPU fan just little bit with a paintbrush (nice for dust cleaning), There was an immediate BSOD. and again at boot (less load).. so , its nice to have a CPU/Sys overheating control but running too hot .. well you understand

3010@1.248

I think it's the lowest voltage on this frequency, but I'll try lower.

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rick_fx

There's a difference between nicely fried French and over done French Fries LOL

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Lol, what's wrong with overdone french fries :D

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When I slowed the CPU fan just little bit with a paintbrush (nice for dust cleaning), There was an immediate BSOD. and again at boot (less load)..

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Paintbrush for dust cleaning is a good idea :)

No BSOD's for me yet. If I remove one fan (4 total) from around the Tuniq Tower, the CPU starts to throttle a bit :banana:

My first post here! :)

Tempest_ - *E6300 Orthos stable 18hours+ @ 3,5Ghz* (*1,4250V (Bios)*) | *Tuniq Tower 120* | *P5B Deluxe Wifi/Ap* | *Team Xtreem Dual Channel Kit 2GB PC2-6400 CL4*

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a1...5014250V06.jpg


Super PI 1M @ 3,5Ghz (Same settings)

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a1...r54/PI1M01.jpg

I am having some major issue with my new setup.

I just received my Asus Commando, E6600, Tuniq Tower and G.Skill PC8000 memory. I am a "noob" so please forgive me, but I have read through the entire commando results thread and many of the sticky's and am perplexed. My issue is that I can't even maintain stability at 3.2GHz. Prime95/Orthos crashes in one minute. What am I doing wrong? Please help.

Sorry for being so noobish!

iviustang50h
no need to be "Sorry for being so noobish" . everybody doesn't know something.

I suspect temps , i.e the Tuniq might be improperly installed .
did u put good thermal paste ?
If Crash occures at temp Y , than , load Bios Defaults and see if it crashes at same temp Y .

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iviustang50h
no need to be "Sorry for being so noobish" . everybody doesn't know something.

I suspect temps , i.e the Tuniq might be improperly installed .
did u put good thermal paste ?
If Crash occures at temp Y , than , load Bios Defaults and see if it crashes at same temp Y .

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Thanks for the kind words. It's nice to be welcomed here on this forum!

I suppose it is possible I installed the Tuniq Tower wrong. I followed the directions as best as possible and hand tightened the four screws until I could barely turn them anymore. Is that too tight? I also have the fan inside the unit facing the rear of the case and blowing air out the back. Is that correct? I did use Arctic Silver 5 for the thermal paste.

Here are my bios settings that I used when trying to reach 3.2 stable (I have a E6600 overclocked to a 3.4 stable on a P5B Deluxe with no issues, but something is wrong with the commando setup:mad: ).

When overclocking my settings were:

Using Bios 803
Spread spectrum - off
PCI clock sync - 33.33
PCI express frequency - 100
DRam - 1:1 (533)

CPU Vcore - 1.45
FSB Voltage - 1.4
NB Vcore - auto
Memory voltage - 2.3 (per G.Skill specs. I have the DDR1000 stuff rated at 4-4-4-5)
DDRII Channel A, B and Ref voltage - all 3 at auto
SB Vcore - 1.5
SB Chipset Voltage - auto
ASUS C.G.I. - auto
Static read control - auto
Cas Latency - 4
Ras to Cas - 4
Ras Precharge - 4
Active to Precharge - 5
Write recovery time - 6
DRAM TRFC - 42
DRAM TRRD - 10
Write to Read - 10
Read to Precharge delay - 10
Write to Precharge delay - 11

CPU ratio CMOS setting - 9
C1E - disabled
Max CPUID Value - disabled
Vanderpool Tech. - disabled
PECI - disabled

Sorry for the long list, but I want to get this issue fixed.

Thanks!

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Thanks for the kind words. It's nice to be welcomed here on this forum!

I suppose it is possible I installed the Tuniq Tower wrong. I followed the directions as best as possible and hand tightened the four screws until I could barely turn them anymore. Is that too tight? I also have the fan inside the unit facing the rear of the case and blowing air out the back. Is that correct? I did use Arctic Silver 5 for the thermal paste.

Here are my bios settings that I used when trying to reach 3.2 stable (I have a E6600 overclocked to a 3.4 stable on a P5B Deluxe with no issues, but something is wrong with the commando setup:mad: ).

When overclocking my settings were:

Using Bios 803
Spread spectrum - off
PCI clock sync - 33.33
PCI express frequency - 100
DRam - 1:1 (533)

CPU Vcore - 1.45
FSB Voltage - 1.4
NB Vcore - auto
Memory voltage - 2.3 (per G.Skill specs. I have the DDR1000 stuff rated at 4-4-4-5)
DDRII Channel A, B and Ref voltage - all 3 at auto
SB Vcore - 1.5
SB Chipset Voltage - auto
ASUS C.G.I. - auto
Static read control - auto
Cas Latency - 4
Ras to Cas - 4
Ras Precharge - 4
Active to Precharge - 5
Write recovery time - 6
DRAM TRFC - 42
DRAM TRRD - 10
Write to Read - 10
Read to Precharge delay - 10
Write to Precharge delay - 11

CPU ratio CMOS setting - 9
C1E - disabled
Max CPUID Value - disabled
Vanderpool Tech. - disabled
PECI - disabled

Sorry for the long list, but I want to get this issue fixed.

Thanks!

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up the vcore to 1.5 (only after you check the temps at the moment)

Also, your ram is underclocked, 1:1 with an fsb of 355 (assuming you're at 3.2Ghz) is only 710Mhz

He shouldn't need 1.5 on the CPU for 3.2...

Shouldnt certainly does not mean doesnt

Some chips simply need a little more voltage, and 1.5 is safe on air.

if the pc crashes at certain, low, temp , overclocked AND default , than the cooling is suspect.
I don't have same mobo.

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Shouldnt certainly does not mean doesnt

Some chips simply need a little more voltage, and 1.5 is safe on air.

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With a help from Mr. Deeds and other like you, I seem to have gotten over my initial hump. I changed the vcore to 1.5V and changed tras from 5 to 12. That ram is rated at 5 tras, but if it doesn't work and will only work at 12, so be it. I will mess with it down the road to see if it is really the tras or the extra vcore voltage that fixed it.

Obviously I want to overclock higher than 3.2 What is the recommend voltages for running my e6600 at 3.6 on a Tuniq Tower (CPU Vcore, FSB Voltage, NB Vcore, SB Vcore, SB Chipset Voltage)?

Cheers to Mr. Deeds and you all for helping me out. Hopefully this does the trick!

Markmk - 3.6ghz Prime stable (1.42v) - Water cooled - Abit IN9 32X Max - Cellshock PC6400 (D9GKX) @ 944 4-4-4-12 2.2v

http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/6730/36ghzhs9.jpg

OK guys, im kinda new to overclocking on Intel so this is what ive managed so far. Im fairly happy with this chip. 3.6Ghz@1.42v. Im aiming for 4Ghz. Any suggestions would be greatfully recieved

http://img396.imageshack.us/img396/381/37rz4.jpg

Aircooling with Infinity

Rams the thing thats holding me back, craps out around 934MHz


Can POST at 3.77GHz but Windows refuses to boot.

I finally had a few minutes to try out a little extra voltage on my new 3060.
This is at 1.7v bios (1.60v w/droop)

Core 2 Extreme X6800 4.0ghz 10x400 - Pi32m stable (1.65v - 1.62v after vdroop) - Water cooled - Abit IN9 32X Max - Cellshock PC8000 (D9GKX) @ 800 4-4-4-12 2.1v 1:1 Linked.

http://img469.imageshack.us/img469/4...ble4ghzvy9.jpg

Well lets see. I'm using this SP2400 Orthos beta. I can burn the CPU all day long. If I include the RAM at this speed it goes off after about 3 minutes. But the RAM can go all night, error free with memtest86+. So I'm wondering if the beta has issues? I also can't get a monitoring program to see what's happening Sandra for instance reports no sensor available. So I don't trust half the stuff I'm seeing. Oh ya, I'm also surfing and listening to music while doing the burn test. Anyway, here's my mess:

E6400 @3.2GHz 8x400 vCore 1.325V in BIOS but shows 1.29 on the guru. Stock Intel HS Fan. EIST and FanEq disabled. ABIT AB9 BIOS 16. Orthos for stability check at 3+ hours. RAM is 1GB GEIL Ultra 2.3V (2x512) DDR2 800 @ 1000MHz CPU to DDR ratio set at 4:5 timings at 5-5-5-13-2T. (insert Porky Pig voice here) "The the the that's all folks!"

http://angryhippy.net/images/E6400_3.5.jpg

^^ Ram running error free in memtest, no matter for how long does not mean it will be error free in windoz :)

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^^ Ram running error free in memtest, no matter for how long does not mean it will be error free in windoz :)

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OK, then I'll give it a go using 2 copies of SP2400, instead of the beta. The system isn't having any issues, but we'll see what happens.

Im at 3.9ghz pi32m stable. I cant quite get prime stable yet, think i have heat issues with my abit IN9. I was running 1.55v through the NB and hav a fan placed above it (vantec stealth 92mm). The sodding heat pipe system on this board just isnt man enough to cool at these voltages

http://img113.imageshack.us/img113/2...mstableri2.jpg

I have Core2Duo E6300

My temps at idle are 51-54, and under load (not even 100% stress) shoot up to 63-6x+

I seated and reseated cooler dor 10 times, checked the CPU and cooler surface, i replaced stock contact paste with more quality like paste. and still no improvement.

i read that the deafults should be 30-35 idle.

I overclocked nothing, all is on auto, motherboard is ASUS P5B-Deluxe/wifiap

Programs used to measure temps are coretemp and TAT.

My deafult vcore is 1.28v checked with Cpu-Z

HELP!! :(

Angelico_Payne

Hi

You can try setting voltages by hand, just to try .

If you lapped the IHS than u might have some metal dust in the socket by now. Or, what did u do just before temps got so high, and I assume System Temp is normal .

But what I really think, The only thing to hope for now is faulty temp readings. For checking that you must install the CPU on another mobo.

Good Luck

I tried setting voltages by hand and still no luck, still high temps. Besides the fact that i have 0.4 vdropp !!!

I tested on another mobo ASUS P5 somethong with integrated gpu, and temps on idle were 30-35. (same stock cooler)

I didnt lapp IHS (beacuse atm its flat as it should be ) but i was planning when i OC this baby to shave few degrees off, which i cannot start beacuse it doesnt even work properly on stock settings.

And yes systems temps is normal.

I will probably RMA the board, which will probably be a huge problem, cause here if it works, its a big fight to get it replaced... but i am just buffled by this overheating.... and i will do my best to get a new one.

I've just hoped that someone had seen something like this before, because in my 8 years as sys builder i havent... :(

Angelico_Payne

I have seen. the winbond is reporting wrong temps. or so.
I have an old mobo that beside that , loses user Bios settings if PSU is shut down ( = off the wall socket).
but speculating is irrelevant. what you can do is.

* you can flash the mobo again , and to earlier Bios ( higher than 1000 if u remember Asus warning)
* If that doesn't happen you could OC regardless - relying on the CPU to throttle down or shutdown etc.
* or , try a new CPU on the mobo - most likely this will verify that the mobo is somewhat faulty.
* Or replace the mobo (the previous option will help in convincing ) .

GL

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E6300 ES B0 step 4 @3013MHz 1.3 V in BIOS, 2,6 GHz 24/7 !.3 V
Intel Bad Axe moded rev. 302
Air cooling: Cooler Master Hyper LP 3
You can see my PC in my sig.
Validation:
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=104686

links for my allendale results:
http://www.benchmark.co.yu/forum/sho...&postcount=228
http://www.benchmark.co.yu/forum/sho...&postcount=229
http://www.benchmark.co.yu/forum/sho...&postcount=235
http://www.benchmark.co.yu/forum/sho...&postcount=237
http://www.benchmark.co.yu/forum/sho...&postcount=245
http://www.benchmark.co.yu/forum/sho...&postcount=250
and dual prime:
http://www.benchmark.co.yu/forum/att...chmentid=14689
http://www.benchmark.co.yu/forum/sho...&postcount=257
and here You have a nice wallpaper :)
http://www.benchmark.co.yu/forum/att...chmentid=14690

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83c...are u seriuos,thats scary man...

I am using latest official bios, and temps were same with 3 diferent versions : 0804 0910 and 1101. In bios it shows 15-20 degrees lower temp for CPU but mmb temp is same form within windows and bios. I dont know what else to do, i cant even do Orthos for 5 mins on 90% without going 65C+... no other why then to RMA and get official opinion...

94c I read there. You could cook yourself dinner on that. I think coretemp needs updating as its probably wrong, 0.95 it should be

Most Ive had was 83c which isnt safe either probably

65c is fine, 70c is fine

CoreTemp is OK :)
4 T calibration difference look here:
http://softwarecommunity.intel.com/i...howThread.aspx
You can try riva C2D plugin if You dont know how instal it go here
You have in attachment idle core Temps 4 my CPU.
:wave:

I am a bit confused.. isnt the max temp of core supposed to be 65C according to Intel whitepaper specs?

Also what is the vcore voltage of E6300 conroe core? mine on auto is 1.176 and i hear that it varies from model to model ; 1.285 and some have 1.3, 1.35 being the max recommended by Intel

61.4C to be exact ,
my 6300 , with Speedstep , runs at 1.128V - 1.256V

Sure the 'auto' max temp is 65 and it'll probably throttle past that but you can turn those features off and see higher temps without problems. The Tjunction temp is 85 and the most Ive seen is 83 with still no bad effects.

My opinion is 70 is a good regular max to aim for if you dont care about running hot otherwise. i dont think any damage is done at higher temps, even if it did the cpu would probably be worth 20 dollars by the time it showed up.

Past 70 there seems to be stability issues from temp alone that voltage wont compenstate for so well

First Attempt at a E6400

Mr.Kakarot - 3171 MHz Prime stable (1.5v) | external water cooler | ASUS P5W DH Deluxe current bios 1901 I think? Mushkin xp2 6400 4-4-4-10

http://img527.imageshack.us/img527/2...attemptoj4.jpg

I just woke up from a dream where I was visiting an old employer of a mom/pop pc shop. Among his stock I found a 1.025 VID 6420. Too bad I didn't stay long enough to try it out. :(

When you start dreaming of computers, its time to wake up in the real world :)

Ewe, no, then I have to fix them!

Would some one please send me the bois setting to maximize my E6400 chip please i have the asus p5w dh and cruccial blastic ram 4-4-4-12-4 tracer ram ,

http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/7...hzvakaale5.jpg

Could you predict how this chip would go? 24/7 stable? Water temp stays at 28C MAX

You cant really predict how any chip will be, but that one seems to be a good one. Prim-ing for that long at 3.8 is really good, just keep the voltage as low as you can while keeping it stable, and you should be fine.